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raumdeuter:
I agree. I'm republican and I talk to most of these white collar folks and that's their sentiments
And honestly it sounds somehow to tell them it's because they are unskilled they have to compete. Like can I come to your papa house and tell you to let's compete for food or bedspace?

Only protected professions are safe like medicine law accounting. If You're in IT let's say a million Romanians flood uk with their skills they'll either send you out of work or lower your wages since they can do what you do for 90% less money.

If they have a policy of hiring 1 Nigerian when there were 5 compared to when we have 500 Nigerians for the same 1 spot

lol

In my field, I'm competing with indians for the immigrant seat at the IT table...and in general, wages are dropping.

The key is constant improvement. I take certain certifications, attend seminars, etc to keep myself relevant, and keep my wages constant or on the increase.

You will never see Nihilist sitting on his thumbs and crying that he can't get alabaro work.

raumdeuter:
Afrodoc2, nihilist, ibime

What would your opinion be if you were a born British Mechanic or career houseboy or those careers threatened by EU immigrants

Though I know the reason most of you favor it is because of cheap ashanas from Poland and Hungary. So I can't really blame you. Prick needs to chop

You have no excuse to be a career houseboy in the UK.

Free education to University level. Student loan that you don't start paying back until you start earning a minimum salary. Abundance of internships, scholarships and grants. Massive investment in sports/


This is not US. The government actually takes care its own here. If you have all these opportunities and you're still annoyed because you can't get bricklayer job or shitpacking job, you deserve to lose your place to an immigrant.

raumdeuter:
Its similar here but the hate is not towards white people but to people of other skin color especially Latinos. Its the mainstay of Trumps campaign they take our jobs, they are criminals, they are rapissts, etc

But which job do they take? Ever since I've been in America they are the ones who do jobs born American are too big to do. e.g all toilets I have been to in Amerca gets cleaned by Mexicans, all hotel cleaners are mexicans, most of the people who do landscaping ate Mexicans, agricultural and farm jobs are Mexicans, a large number of contruction are Mexicans, they are like the type of jobs we give Aboki and Calabar people to do in Yorubaland (digging wells and soak away to houseboy/girl). personally I like the Hispanics they make things cheaper

E.g to move, I can hire 3 mexicans for 4hrs and pay them $200 for all of them. when I went to a friends place who just moved to a white state, No Mexican the company he called for movers said the base money they take is $1300 even if they only lift a cup. Then $250 per hour rate after the initial $1300 for 2 men.

To play devils advocate too, If you are white and a job you could have easily made $2000 some 3 Mexicans did it for $200 then you would likely be pissed. Now given that the world had a recession recently and there are less jobs to go around, the easy target are immigrants

It is similar to what happened in the 80's with Nigerians and Ghana must go. Transfer of job loss aggression

Yup more or less.

But it's the unskilled British labour force that are suffering the effects. They are unwilling to live 4 in a room,and work long hours for peanuts like the Eastern Europeans.

At least the mexicans are mainly illegal and cant rely on state benefits. The EEs can claim benefits(welfare cheque) immediately they landed(though this has recently been changed), claim free healthcare, send their children to free schools, etc putting even more strain on the safety net of the poor and unskilled (and lazy)Brits.

GBR1:
I knew that praise you were giving him the other day would return to bite you. This guy is a confirmed lunatic. He's wrong almost every time and although he gets somethings right, i don't think he gets these things right because he actually knows what he's saying.I have realized he stumbles on it. Even a clock that has stopped working is right twice per day and the same thing is true for lunatics like him.

Clearly I was wrong.

The fact that he was making a cogent arguments that day led me to believe that he was just being bullied by the likes of Dadehmola and co.

Since then the guy has been shockingly bad. It's not like he even takes a contrarian position or plays devils advocate. The guy is just crazy.

Griffon:
I'd love to have you buttress most of the points raised but that would be in your spare time.

Honestly, It's too long.

afrodoc2:
Racists and xenophobes.
And it would be easier to keep the darker skinned peeps out if you are in total control of your borders and can screen who comes in

Lol

It's already very difficult for non-EU immigrants to get in. You would have to be extremely desperate to try to live here without papers....and it would be a terrible existence.

The problem is that the vast majority of the racists are too daft to see that the demand for cheap fresh agricultural produce all year round, in conjunction with a labour wage system in dire need of reform is what is causing the influx of eastern europeans to the farmlands and factories of the UK.

raumdeuter:
Shebi the EU countries are mostly white Caucasian themselves. Or which other races are involved

That's why I said too long...

There are a number of things genuinely wrong with the EU as it currently exists, and each one of the reasons are genuine grounds to cause Member nations to seriously consider their continued membership , but in the UK the argument has basically devolved into an Argument about immigration.

Right now, any fool can wake up in Poland, Greece, Italy, Spain etc and decide that he's going to live in the UK, and be here by nightfall. Generally the people that would be willing to uproot themselves to move to the UK with no offer of a job and not a word of English tend to be lower skilled, from the poorer economies of the EU...and because they have nothing to lose, they can afford to take any dead job in the UK, for wages lower than normal...creating downward pressure on wages.

So basically, it's become a 'foreigners taking our jobs' kind of problem for the (generally lazy)working class of the UK(The term working class is used differently in the UK to the way it is in Nigeria).

Anyway, it's led to a lot of Xenophobic tension here, and the campaign has become really ugly. An MP(Like a Senator) got murdered last week by a crazy british man who believed she was a traitor to Brits because she favoured remaining in the EU.

If these ones don't like White People from outside the UK, I don't think they will look too kindly on us who are non-white

Griffon:
Educate me. What could be your reasons?

That talk would be too long...but i'll just mention some key points.

Visa-less travel to 20+ European destinations

Financial risk of leaving the EU might not be commensurate to percieved benefits

Not everyone voting leave is a racist, but you can bet all of the racists are voting leave.


Then again I'm a lazy sob not particularly interested in voting. I'm not even registered. So, yeah..

I know for a fact that this boy has a long list of uninformed statements, and just picks one or two statements to drop a day...depending on his mood.

This same guy that said LVG did not know Di Maria's position and called Karim Benzema a black man.

This guy is either the Godfather of Trolls in it's ultimate evolved form in bankai mode...or just breathtakingly stupid.

This is most certainly not normal.

Griffon:
Hehehe. The thing is freaking neat, I mean neat. Phuck those god-damned paper-works. I saw long queues snaking down roads from many polling stations, hope you got involved?

I'm not voting.

I would vote remain if I was though.

Griffon I don't think you understand how easy it is to wake up this morning, decide to go to France this afternoon, and be there by 6pm without thinking about applying for Visa

See better chot

Lukaku doesn't work with this Belgium team.

There such a disconnect between him and the attacking 3.

He wants one time balls. His 3 want someone to come deep to touch the ball.

They might as well just get Meertens in and play kdb as a false 9

Thread just dey quiet like a nightclub on Sunday.

Raumdeuter fvck you nigga

All of una dey mad for this thread

Gbola5:
Jon's battle plans never fleshed out There were no trenches in that scene. If we can agree that the Bolton's saw said trenches, meaning they had eyes on the outside, why didn't they know of the Vale Army somewhere off. They were at Moat Cailin, word would have gotten out of an army at Moat Cailin.

Jon's forces had the forest at their backs, they could have used that to an advantage. It was the same with the Stannis battle, the two forces just charged at each other. Armies had battle units which allowed them to respond to battle conditions. You can agreee with me that that was a slaughter After having a battle plan they just discard it. Ramsay sends his own cavalry of about equal forces and then sends arrows to take them out because, saddistic much ? He could have had his infantry formation on the frontlines to guard aginst the unprotected charging Stark cavalry, and then have his archers to the rear to strike them down, his other infantry could then melee with the rest of the Stark forces, he would save a deal lot of his men, atleast enough to counter the Arryn forces while they secured the castle. A good tactician would have at the back of his mind that an enemy force may be hidden in sight, and therefore would not risk his men. But they had to have that Hollywood save with yhe Knights of the Vale~ Reminds you of Helmsdeep, atleast they had the castle, they were just outnumbered. 3/10 for medeival battle.

Whether or not we saw the trenches are irrelevant. Jon said the night before that the trenches were being dug, so we know that they are there.

The trenches were supposed to be used as part of a tactic that was jettisoned as a result of Jons stupidity, so showing the trenches would have been superfluous to the battle scenes anyway.

Given the proximity of the battlefield to the castle, it's almost inconceivable that someone looking outside the window won't have seen a couple thousand men furiously digging trenches and planting stakes in the distance...hence the Bolton's theatrical and successful attempt to lure the Starks away from their defensive positions

Looking at that Battle in isolation, the Boltons were strategically and militarily the superior force, and were rightly in the ascendancy until....

The writers intervened.

All the inconsistencies you mentioned about the Knights of the Vale have nothing to do with Ramsay's lack of tactical acumen.

How can Ramsay see Vale men when even the Starks don't know that they are coming?

Ramsay who saw Jon Snow's men coming, went to meet them out in the field, and was accurately able to guess how many men they had will not see the Vale men coming because writers.

Ramsay who was confident that the castle could not be breached(as predicted by Jon) suddenly had his men decimated inside the castle by relatively few men because writers.

Ramsay who had the opportunity to shoot Jon dead one time, decided instead to waste the opportunity on a dead giant because writers.

Ramsay who has shown himself to be a more than capable close quarters fighter on several occasions would just go down to a few punches because writers

Ramsay who was so deceptively clever that he infiltrated his own forces to con theon, a man who was so astute that he outmanoeuvred his own dad to rise from bastard to warden of the north, all of sudden decides that the best way to kill a man hidden behind a big shield is to keep shooting at the shield.

The writers had decided that Ramsay had to die...so the Vale men had to show up undetected, and Ramsay had to suddenly start making uncharacteristic decisions.

That battle was 10/10 for Ramsay, but the writers just would not let him live

Gbola5:
He would have won on numbers not because of being a tactician. You don't send cavalry against cavalry(a living horse will not charge) and then rain archers on them. Pikemen/Spearmen are best against cavalry and cavalry against infantry. They weren't even heavy cavalry.Those pikemen wouldn't have been able to surround them in a real scenario, as battles are fought in units, you dont all charge in at once, that's slaughter. Davos and the reserves could have stayed put, to hit them at their flanks. It seemed to me in this battle, regardless of the Rickon thing, that they always wanted Jon to be three steps behind Ramsey, trying to flesh out the whole 'You know nothing Jon Snow' when all his mistakes were just simply bad writing.

I'm not exactly sure what to make of the statement 'a living horse will not charge'

Anyway, my analysis if the battle is this:

1. Both sides had relatively few calvary. When the camera zoomed over Ramsays army, it was obvious that his army was almost entirely composed of infantry units. Ditto Jon's army composed almost entirely of wildlings on feet.

2. Jon Snow had told that wildling dude that his troops were digging trenches on their side of the battle field to prevent them from getting flanked. Davos even stressed the importance of letting the boltons charge first.
So it was pretty clear that the original Stark play was to take up a defensive position behind the trenches , let the Bolton Calvary charge and die in the trenches, pin down their infantry with the wildlings, and then use their calvary to attack the flanks.

3. Given that the stark army were digging said trenches literally just outside Winterfell, it's not inconceivable that the Boltons saw all the construction work and consequently through the gameplan, and quickly devised a way to try and lure the starks out from their defensive positions

So...

4. They setup like they're ready to charge. Put the horses in front, phalanx behind, and send out Rickon as bait...and it works. If they had their Spearmen at thr front lines, it would telegraph their move to the Starkes, who would most certainly think twice about charging their horses into a wall of spears

5. The Bolton calvary engage the Stark calvary. Bolton Archers then rain down arrows on them to make sure they die quick..

6. With the Stark calvary gone, they lose the abilty to perform flanking maneuvers. Bolton infantry then use their superior numbers to do the very thing that Jon olodo was afraid of, and encompass them on everyside, and pierce them to death.

7. While this is going on, Bolton Archers fall back.

The only deliberate loss to the Bolton army was the calvary which were the smallest unit anyway. Ramsay was still confident that he had more than enough men to hold the castle against the Vale army from inside Winterfell , which in truth he did...

Its just that the writing gods had decided that he had to die, so die he did...though he lives on in my heart.

What is dread may never die.

gj22:
You don't get it.

A tactician is someone who is good at making plans in order to achieve particular goals.

Ramsey did exactly this.

He was just caught offguard by the vale army. For all we know, Jon snow cheated.

Yes, he killed a lot of his men, the thing is, he wanted that to happen.

I definitely agree with this .

Ramsey delivered a master class in military strategy there.

Used his calvary to pin down Jon's calvary, so that his archers could wipe them out from range.

Then sent in his phalanx troops to spear the army infantry to death.

Ramsay actually won his battle against the starks...and if he wasn't actually destined to die by the writers, could have easily sat back in his castle and waited out the vale siege.

Instead we got the dubious situation where a giant who had more shafts in him than a prostitute, muster enough strength to smash up the gate and let Jon in.

Then ofcourse, Ramsay chose to waste a clean shot on a practically dead giant, when Jon was open for the kill.

Finally, Ramsay had to try and use a bow and arrow in close quarters combat, ignoring the sword hanging at his side begging for action.

Like MaziOmenuko said, those last actions didn't fit the MO of the Lord Bolton that we know.

So yeah, if not that the writers had decided to make Ramsay a faceless man, he would have gotten away with every last action.

homesteady:
Ermm Iniesta was also MOTM in copa Del Rey final against Sevilla!

Personally, I don't understand that dude. We should ignore all of Iniesta's MOTM awards in some of the biggest finals in World Football, and instead depend on his account of the opinion of the people under the stand at Nassarawa camp canopy.

I like the dude....and I understand having a non-conformist viewpoint, but this is just insanity.

Diademk07:
Never was.
Xavi and Sneidjer were better than him at 2010 worldcup final. If Robben hadn't missed the countless of chances Sneidjer created, we wouldn't be talking this. Xavi too, was magnificent but because Inietsa scored the winning lone goal, he became the hero.
Same thing happened at the CL final, Suarez, Neymar, Messi were better and 2 of those players did most of the work of the assist Iniesta was credited with.
Uefa and Fifa don't dictate what I can see with my eyes, if they did, I would have agreed with them on Messi being deserving of the worldcup golden ball award.

So it's a coincidence that 2 different soccer bodies in UEFA and FIFA chose iniesta as MOTM on 3 different major occasions?

I guess It's a coincidence that Iniesta has provided an assist in 3 different UCL finals too...

Useless Iniesta, always falling short against good opposition...

Diademk07:
Against poor team, Iniesta's skills, technique and vision would be enough but against good opposition, he falls short.

You mean the first man EVER to receive the MOTM award in a World Cup final, European Championship final and a Champions League final falls short against good opposition?

Are you insane?

Diademk07:
Controlling the midfield is simply done by spatial awareness.
Obviously, Iniesta has all the skills to control the midfield but his spatial awareness isn't up to the level of Xavi's, I.e, ability to picture the pitch and craft it to your taste.

This isn't the same as

Diademk07:
He's fantastic with lovely technique and has a spectacular vision but never a player who controls the midfield.

So which is it?

Is it that Iniesta cannot control the midfield? or that Xavi does it better?

Diademk07:
Don't get me wrong.
He's fantastic with lovely technique and has a spectacular vision but never a player who controls the midfield. That's my major point.
Ofcourse, he should be among the greatest midfielder because he was an important part of one of the greatest team ever.

I suspect that you have a pre-compiled list of uninformed assertions and you just pick one or two to publish on here depending on the day of the week.



Define the phrase 'control midfield' and then explain how iniesta doesn't do that on a weekly basis

I'm surprised how well Mino Raiola is doing this summer.

The guy is hawking some of the biggest names in the game right now including Pogba, Zlatan, Mikhtrayan, Hamsik and Lukaku.

The commission from these potential deals lasaan

2 years ago, I was with a friend of mine at Aldershot FC. I think that they were in league 3 or whatever it's called. My guys brother who is a low level agent was trying to hawk some of his African 'machines' to the chairman of the board but the deal didn't go through...Still the commission he stood to gain was ridiculous...

E be like say na to start agent work na him sure pass...

Mark register

UjSizzle:
The dothrakis are not like that.
You kill a Khal, you get his Khalasar. It's simple.

Its actually not that simple.

1. If we refer back to season 1, it would appear that you have to challenge the khal to public combat, and win, before you get his Khalasar. Case in point, Drogo's battle with his bloodrider.

2. You can't just kill a Khan randomly and get his Khalasar. Case in point, the witch that effectively killed Drogo,did not get his Khalasar.Despite the fact that Drogo could not ride, and his Khalasar was essentially divied up and split amongst his blood riders, the woman responsible for that was put to death

3. Dothraki are not easily fazedby magic. In fact, the witch from season 1 confirms, that Drogo entered the university of magic where she was the VC and slaughters everybody. So I'm very surprised that the dothraki immediately chose to bow to Danaerys following her magic trick.

4. In fact, the dothraki hate practitioners of magic as confirmed again in S1. Even when Danaerys is on her way to the dosh kalen, the other Khal's wives are wary of her magic and warns him to cut of her head before she casts a spell on him

So I find it very difficult to believe, that the dothraki would immediately forget all Thier customs,beliefs, and fears, and immediately bow to this non-dothraki woman who just killed their leaders, brothers, sons and fathers, and burned down Thier holiest temple, in the only existing city that they have.

I find it strange to believe that none of the people who go around slaughtering magicians for a living, was unable to muster a bit of loyalty and/or courage, to say "fvck this bitch" and just kick her self-righteous arse

That's just unbelievable

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JiggamanGh:
He's an iron born and the King of the iron island. Their whole way of life is raiding, raping and stealing. Trust me he will be the villain. The iron island already hate the Starks and now Danny is going to be his enemy. He's the villain in line.

Iron islands are politically irrelevant in the show. They've been a vassal state for decades, and while they have the ships, they don't really have the fighting men. Hence both Yara and Euron looking east for support. Now that Yara has beaten him to the punch, there's nothing else to do and nowhere else to go...unless they bring out 'that thing' from the books. Now that could be a game changer. Other than that, Euron is a goner, and will be lucky if he event gets to die onscreen.

waywardpikin:
Vex money. I like the sound of that.

I don't see Sansa 2.0 agreeing to marry Baelish though. Surely she's not that stewpid.

If Baelish demands Sansa as the price of his intervention, there's very little she can do. It's not like she can approach the bargaining table in an advantageous position.

However, I don't think that Baelish will try and get her for himself...at least not straight away. I think that his play would be to get her to marry her cousin. She can't inherit winterfell and jon olodo is a bastard. So marrying her cousin could potentially be the best way to keep winterfell in the family. This marriage could potentially change the entire political dynamic of the north, and I suspect that he will then leverage his influence with the arryn boy to manouvre himself into the highest echelons of power within the 'new' north.

Endy10:
They knew she chained up two of the dragons, while she flew away on drogon's back to safety. They didn't expect her to show up when they attacked meeren. You may say some even though her dead, probably with drogon. So you can see why they were no overly concerned with their thoughts of two chained up dragons and one dead one. With the number of their ships, they were expecting an easy victory.

This explanation makes no sense. First off, we don't know what they knew. The fact that we saw the Dragons locked up does not necessarily mean that this was public knowledge. Secondly, locking up the dragons does not negate their threat. Afterall, we still saw them fly out from God knows where to roast peoples arses.

So where does that leave us?

1. We know that everybody is aware that Danearys has Dragons. The masters of Astapor won't have forgotten how the dragon roasted one of their own at Danaery's command.

2. We know that Mereen was under seige. We could see the harpys killing people outside the city gates, and the astapor navy mounting a blockade on it's ports. This means that Danaerys could not have entered the city on foot. Indeed the sound that was made just before her sudden appearance, and the fact that she appeared with a distinct lack of entourage suggests that she flew into the city. If this was the case, the invaders would have seen that big fvcking winged lizard silhouetted against the sky.

3. The masters organised a parley with Danaerys. This clearly proves that they knew she was in town. The question is, why would you go through the logistical and administrative nightmare of raising an invading force spanning a thousand ships, and a large infantry battalion, without checking to see if the ONLY REAL military threat to your forces were inactive? That makes no goddam sense

JiggamanGh:
Euron greyjoy is going to take the place of Ramsay.

Euron Greyjoy has no clout. He has nothing to offer(as per the show).

waywardpikin:
I agree they're pointless. For now.

Mehn I'm planning to get me one of those rides on OLX. Comes with voice recognition and seat belts. I can't wrap my head around how she manages those old models she cruises around though.

In any case, with Joffrey and now Ramsay gone, who do you think the next big bad is ghana be?

Please note that Little finger, Cersei, and the High Sparrow are all pseudo villains but not in the same league as the two mentioned earlier.

Sadly, I don't think that we would be seeing anymore overtly evil characters like Joffrey and Ramsay.

I think that those two characters could afford to be so utterly vile mainly because they were born into privileged positions and didn't really have to scheme their way into power. Well Ramsay had to kill his dad to hasten the process of ascension, but he was already the heir anyway so point stands.

Every other character in contrast, will have to navigate the political minefield and will require some degree of charm and compromise to acquire and consolidate any political gains.

So yes, scheming villains it is.

I'm already a fan of the High Sparrow. But littlefinger intrigues me. John snows stupidity decimated what forces he had, and winterfell is in effect being held by the knights of the Vale. I don't think sansa has 'Vex money' as naija girls call it, so she's massively in debt to baelish.

So those are my picks as well