European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:48pm On Feb 06, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:47pm On Feb 06, 2021 |
Bruno! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:44pm On Feb 06, 2021 |
Silly Fred, he no dey ever score. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:41pm On Feb 06, 2021 |
Pogba haters, well done o |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:27pm On Feb 06, 2021 |
Nice one Cavani! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 3:42pm On Feb 06, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 2:17am On Feb 05, 2021 |
hensben: You don't know what you are saying bro. Haha, dont worry. The real narrative will come out soon. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:15am On Feb 05, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:11am On Feb 05, 2021 |
KingAlabi: Do you know young has made more appearances as a left back to Shaw in the England national team?
Has this brain tumor affected you this much?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:56am On Feb 05, 2021 |
I am done with this tool. He knows nothing and is very much confused.
Bye headless chicken! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:54am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: The concept is beyond your reasoning.
Jose had:-
3/10 RB, 6/10 CB 5/10 CB 4/10 LB
Ole has :-
6/10 RB 5/10 CB 6/10 CB 6/10 LB.
As a unit, Ole’s boys should be better cos they are better individually but in one role.
However, Ole’s unit is performing below standard expected of them.
This simple illustration is what you, King, Patrick are calling contradiction.  So, sum of the parts is your issue. Lol. See achievement o! Abeg, I don’t have strength. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:48am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Android17: Chelsea owes who? Go check my previous posts so you can understand my point. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:46am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: You really don’t understand the meaning of sum of the parts and that’s perfectly fine.
You are still on halfwit highway. Lol, because you have managed to use one term now, you think others no sabi? Tell me what you have in terms of knowledge and qualifications, let’s see what you’ve got. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:44am On Feb 05, 2021 |
hensben: Where is your prove to this or it’s just your theory Lol, I know what I am saying. Chelsea indirectly owes 1.1 billion, just that Abra is fronting for the club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:19am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: Maguire was there last season too so you are making my point. If you were smart, you would know that I was telling you that the same defence conceded less last season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:18am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: Stones is better than Maguire.
If United sign Usain Bolt to play in their defence, he would concede fewer goals than Maguire.
If United sign you and you find a way to reduce your akpu-filled tummy, you would concede fewer goals than Maguire. Haha, what is Akpu? Is that what you eat everytime? Anyway, now I know that you are a troll. I don't why I am quoting your posts sef. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:16am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: Improved defence?
You look at United’s defence and see improvement as a unit?
How many goals did United concede in 17/18 season?
How many goals have they conceded this season with Maguire in the defence?
Are you people drunk or what? How many goals did man utd concede the last season, how many this season? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:15am On Feb 05, 2021 |
KingAlabi: But Robertson that was relegated is a player bought to win the league
2daful!!!! The thing is a troll jare. He is confused as hell. I blame the guys that liked his initial comment. Anyway, birds of the same feather flocks together. Someone even said that our confused fellow succinctly put the issues they have with the Glazers well. How can someone be complaining that business owners are taking money out, even though we all know that they have spent more than they've taken out, and the amount spent is close to what dem Arab billionaires have spent on City. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:10am On Feb 05, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:08am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: A business owes its owners
Stop confusing yourself. Wait! Do you know what it means for a business to owe its owners? It means, it's a shareholder loan that will definitely be repaid. So you think that Abram won't recoup his money through debt repayments and stuffs which will eventually go to the banks? You are Jon Snow! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:05am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: Stones is Ake now?
Lord, you are unbelievable. So Stones is better than Maguire?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:04am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: You have played yourself, stop typing. Lol, that's the narrative for gullible people like you. Abra has used financial experts to structure and restructure the capital structure of the whole Chelsea empire, so people like you will stop stressing him. Fact is, Abra owes the banks, Chelsea owes Abra, and Chelsea indirectly owes the banks. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:00am On Feb 05, 2021 |
Illimitable: Chelsea do not owe the banks, Chelsea owe Abramovich.
I knew you would brain fart as soon as I prod you further. Haha, you wanna try me in Finance and deal structuring, better dont go there. Do you know that as per the terms of the 1.1 billion loan, Abramovich can actually call it in at any time with an 18-month notice (i.e. Chelsea would have 18 months to repay it). The holding company of Chelsea owes the banks, and Chelsea as a subsidiary owes Fordstam - the holding company. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:56pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Who is Chelsea owing? nitrogen: Chelsea is an entity. Chelsea indirectly owes the banks that gave Abra the loan. What you don't know is that Chelsea assets were used as collateral for the loan.
Anyway, now you agree that Chelsea owes its owner 1.1 billion, right? I thought you said they don't have any debt in their books? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:55pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Chelsea owe Abramovic. The business owes its owner.
The Glazers owe the banks. 
I can totally understand why this is complex to you.  Chelsea is an entity. Chelsea indirectly owes the banks that gave Abra the loan. What you don't know is that Chelsea assets were used as collaterals for the loan. Anyway, now you agree that Chelsea owes its owner 1.1 billion, right? I thought you said they don't have any debt in their books? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:53pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Guardiola and City signed Nathan Ake, he must be world class.  Haha, then you are more confused than I thought. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:52pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: You have zero knowledge of what you are talking about.
https://www.ft.com/content/5bf8da7c-f574-11de-90ab-00144feab49a
I said Chelsea’s owner cleared their debt and you are saying he puts them in more debt. Are you inebriated or what has gotten into you?
You want to debate football finance with your morgue temperature IQ?
Roman owns Chelsea. He made them debt free while your owners at Old Trafford are piling more debt. £800 debt since 2005 still stands at £500m debt while spending more than £1 billion to service the debt.
Those are good owners according to you?
Your morgue temperature IQ is getting in the way of logical reasoning.
I asked you to debate how much the clubs have spent per season under their respective owners.
United from 2005, City from 2008. Cutting it down to the last 10 years already tells me you are a fraud trying to paint a narrative that is false to suit your agenda. How come Chelsea is owing 1.1 billion, check their books now. It's there oga! FYI, Chelsea spent 935m Euros on transfers since 2013, that's less than what Utd spent in the same period. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:50pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Don’t rewrite history.
Sanchez had seen better days by the time he joined Man Utd. The same Sanchez is at Inter now under Conte. I am sure he’s won 2 golden boots there since he moved to Italy.
Luke Shaw is shit. I can never rate a player that has 8 appearances for England at the age of 25.
How many England caps did Rooney have at 25? They both joined United in their teens.
Rashford/Martial are wingers or pretending to be wingers? Lol, Snachez that Guardiola and City wanted to sign? The wages put City off, but they recognised the fact that he was one of the best in the league at that time. Guardiola wanted to sign Fred too o, shey you remember? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:46pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
patrickmuf: No wonder them no dey allow new comers talk for some kind association...
Small airtime wey we give baba against Alabi wey don pay him dues for here baba wan form Nkem Owoh for us...
I die here, this your argument no go see the light of day unless my phone off and if e off, I go enter office by 7am go charge phone to continue...  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:46pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Discuss Man City.
Their owners have put £1 billion into the club since 2008, the Glazers have removed double of that from United.
Remember Roman Abramovic too? Remember how he paid all Chelsea’s debt and put his money to good use by winning the league twice in a row?
Those are owners - unlike the parasites in your club. Lol, tell me why Chelsea has over 1.1 billion debt in its books. Greek gift from Abra? Also, can you tell me if Utd has not spent up to 1 billion pounds in the club since 2008? Why do you have problems with how much they take out? What matters is how much they've invested in the team, and the world can actually see that they have spent over 1 billion in the last 10 years, except you, a confused fan. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:41pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: It’s like you have wax in your ears.
With a defence unit of Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young, Jose won 3 trophies - under the same owners.
With a much improved defence unit of Wan Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof and Shaw, Ole can’t even win a semifinal tie and you are opining Ole isn’t at fault?
Get a drug test done immediately, someone close to you is doping your water or food. Improved defence from heaven, because the Glazers have decided not to spend on the club. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:38pm On Feb 04, 2021 |
Illimitable: Discuss Man City.
Their owners have put £1 billion into the club since 2008, the Glazers have removed double of that from United.
Remember Roman Abramovic too? Remember how he paid all Chelsea’s debt and put his money to good use by winning the league twice in a row?
Those are owners - unlike the parasites in your club.
Of course, they don’t spend. Neymar and Countinho were free transfers for Barca. Florentino Perez kidnapped Bale and James Rodriguez without paying a penny.
Start from 2005(the year the Glazers bought United).
Stop posting fraudulent stats to suit your false narrative.
Liverpool and Leicester are anomalies.
Liverpool gave Klopp 5 years to build and rebuild without any hint he could be sacked. Klopp finished 8th, 4th, 4th, 2nd, 1st. Even Moyes would achieve this if given that much time to do it his way without the useless Woodward poking his nose.
Leicester were 500/1 to win the league in 2015/16.
Chelsea win titles because they don’t give excuses. There’s a reason they are the most successful team in England since 2005. They have hired 16 managers in that period.
Abramovic would have sacked Ole by now. He spends money and he demands instant success.
Roman is a hero! If an owner pumps money into a club, then it should be equity not debt, what’s the point of putting in debt and making the club owe a lot of money to the owners and pay high interests (above market rate). Check the article below, Chelsea is owning one of Abramovichs companies over 1 billion pounds. Money borrowed by Abra and on-lent to the club. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chelsea-wages-up-to-244m-as-chelsea-s-debt-to-abramovich-grows-to-1-13bn-v365wf8zbInfact, the table below highlights debts owed by Epl clubs as of November 2020. If you don’t know something, just ask! Again, back to the point, City and Utd have spent almost the same amount in the last 10 years, but then City has been better because they snapped up a very good manager. Your argument that City spent more on quality players is BS, players signed by City were average performers, in fact at some point under Mou, Utd bought players of the year in the Serie A, Bundesliga etc.
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