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mazaje:
you always climb the high horse and and condemn other people's faith when your is the same as theirs. . .mohammed was a phedopile but your own father abraham practiced insest, the man whom you sing about in your churches as your father who has so many sons and which you are proudly one of them(abraham) married his own half sister from the same father. . . will you allow your child to marry his half sister?. . .

do the chinese not inter-marry? are some of them not xtians?
Do cousins not marry in nigeria?

u goofed here. half-siblings marriage is a cultural thing it has nothing to do with religion.

wendyc:
Bridget,
i'll tell u now that who ever said leave GOD out of it is telling u- well u can't get out of it.
if there is anything on this earth that we think we can do with out GOD, i'll like for one to point to it. if u make a wrong decision, it's becos u chose to do dat, it's not GOD making d decision 4 u. right from d begining, he gave us dat freedom. it's left to us to follow and make the ones he advise us to take.

As for all d people telling u to leave ur husband, ask which is married? ask how their marriage is, some will and do take more of all dat u have gone through in their own marriages if not worst, and then dey tell u to leave him. if u do, and d next prince charming comes, proposes on top of the mountain for all to see, gives u d best marriage u can ever dream of, takes u & ur kids to shopping in London or anywere every foru months, threats u like u r on top of d world, only to find out dat he's doing some rituals, or some un godly things, armed robbery or so, will u leave him too, and cos all u'll do is either get back here and ask for advise that u maaried a robber, or a killer, should u leave him, and d answer as always is "what r u doing with a killer" and all d stuff.
Your husband is out in d world. far into d world i should add. all u have to do is interceed and pray for him, pray for yourself and ur kids. if u have taken d convenant that he's ur hubby, hold on and pray about it, d drugs if u can't have him around u and d kids, u can tell him to pls stop coming till he learns to keep it away from u guys, and ask GOD to deliver him from it. it's not an easy thing.
some men cheat, even d ones dat love their wives, and all that stuff, it's temptation. d one with the power to over come it is the one that will over come, ur prayer is for GOD to have him over come d temptation.
my dear all u have is GOD, any other thing is not going to work, even if u leave him for the next simple but loving GUy, what happens if dat one too does something? u leave again.

marriages go through ups and downs, it may have being rough from d begining which u should have seen, but u didn't and let it happen, GOD is a merciful GOD, even with this, he will still help. depend on him completly and not on any advise dat some give here.

@ poster
best advice so far, and the best u can get anywhere.  prayer works like ,  . . . ,  it does wonders.

dont compare ur marriage to any one's, cos all that glitters aint gold. go on ur kneels and pray.

mazaje:
you keep repeating one word all the time, now you sound like a broken record. . .i for sure know that you do not even know what ontology means, at least i have caught you miss using words like apologist and plagiarism, you clearly did not know what they meant but you kept using them until[b] i exposed your ignorance[/b], i know you also do not know what ontology means you just keep using it to keep your self in your bubble of delusion. . .

when did silence become an approval for continuous falsehood?
that I refuse to respond to ur misnomers has nothing to with the quality or lack of it, of the rubbish u keep saying. u have the habbit of successfully digressing points, that after replying u, i sometimes begin to wonder how we ever got this stage?

where did u ever have me misuse any word or terminology?. replying u is synonymous to a waste of time.

toneyb on gave you the ontology of your god but you did not even attempt to say anything about . . . you just kept asking the same thing when it is clear that you do not even know the meaning of what you are asking. . .

I specifically ignored toneyb cos I never directed my questions to him (no insults intended to toneyb). And his answer proved me right.
his answer reflects the christian answer to God's ontology, which the atheist claims to be wrong.
If u believe an answer is wrong, shouldn't u have the right answer?

that explains why none of the numerous atheistic protagonists ever took up the challenge of stating what GOD's ontology is? or who Jehovah is?
cos in reality they (including u) dont know, but would never admit that.

Horus:
There is nothing malicious about Facts. Belief is ignorance. Belief is to ignore the facts, intentionally or ignorantly. If one has to believe, that means he or she does not know , and if one does not know , that is ignorance. Hence, belief is ignorance and religious beliefs without the facts is ignorance.

where did u "google" this from?

I hold no opinion of Nflah-nflah cos I have no knowledge of him/it.

You have an opinion of God, cos u have a knowledge of HIM. so who is Jehovah GOD? what is HIS ontology?

duduspace:
Yu don't need to tell me its food for thot, yu are even at a loss of words to say. Come off your high horse, yu're one unnecessarily egoistical fellow, a true Davidylan disciple (as opposed to Jesus disciple). 

ok.

duduspace:
You obviously don't think much, have you ever considered the fact that the answer to a question is not always yes or no? what if I tell you I have no belief? yu are the one who says you have a belief and the burden of proof lies with you. Did any atheist or agnostic here ever ask for your respect?

When Faraday postulated his principles of electromagnetic induction, the burden of proving it was with him which he did with experiments with consistent results which have stood the test of time. Faraday never asked those who questioned him to even come up with alternative explanations. If Faraday, a man could do that why can't your so called omni-everything god do that? why does he need half-baked lackeys like you to do his dirty job of muddling everything up?

Instead of shouting yourself hoarse, perhaps you need to listen to what those you've lumped together as atheists are saying while being honest to agree in instances where your logic is wrong (as has been shown severally in this thread and in others) rather than resorting to grand standing, lies and insults. If you do this, I assure you would become a much better person with a clearer definition and insight into what you beleive.

did u make any point?

are these nations practising biblical injunctions?
are islamic views not welcomed?

I thinks it amounts to illiteracy on ur part to refer a country with a christian majority as an xtian nation, considering that islamic nations do not even welcome xtianity in any form.

oyb:
thou bastard child, ( you do know that jesus is the only begotten son of your so called god. . .which makes you one of his bastard children, an omo ale. . . , which explains your inablity to comprehend a simple wikipedia article. . .)

hehehe. . . bastard child of the biploar 3inonediety with MPD making noise

fortunately for all of us, as you noted, western nations have consigned your religion to a well deserved place in the dustbin of history, which is why you can make noise about Islam and civilization

go and read up on the spanish inquisition, the rights of women accused as witches, the restriction of scientific investigation by your religious leaders. it is a wonder that the western world you are making noise about was able to escape the dark age of your atrocious religion to the age of enlightenment.

pele , ignoramus - what should one expect from a bastard/omo ale who can't read?

mohammed and "allah" must be proud of u.

huxley:
You keep bearing false evidence against me and calling me a liar. Can you show evidence that I have lied?

This was ur lie: u said that

huxley:
Just as you don't believe in Nflah-nflah believe you do not know who/what Nflah-nflah is (ie you do not know or have his ontology), atheist don't believe in Yahweh because we do not know who/what Yahweh is. If you give me an ontology that is plausible, maybe I might change my mind.

I never said that I dont believe in Nflah-nflah, I said:

noetic:
I neither belief or disbelief Nflah-nflah, cos i dont even know who/what it is.

but u dont believe in GOD, right?

ur misrepresentation of my view was a lie.

toneyb:
He looks more sensible than you at least. I have seen some of your comments here, and if there is anything your comments show is that you are a very dishonest hypocrite. You spend your entire time insulting and ranting against the Muslims and turn around and play the victim card when others insult or ridicule your beliefs. You spend all day calling the Muslim god names and saying he is a blood thirsty deity but when they show your how blood thirsty your own god is you run away only to appear on other threads playing the victim card all over again. I have seen you debate Mazaje and he seems to be very consistent, while all you display is your own hypocrisy.

I don't even have to go to far to show you your own hypocrisy.

I can understand u are fuming and angry, but let me state this if at least to set the records straight.

I have never ran away from a thread regardless of who is antagonising my point(s) of view. I stand by my views against the muslims.
While mazaje debates the xtian view, I end up ignoring him cos he NEVER DEFENDS HIS BELIEFS WHEN PLACED UNDER THE SAME MICROSCOPE.

The muslims come back asking questions about my beliefs, they usually get answers or make their own conclusions.
mazaje and other atheists on nairaland HAVE NEVER DEFENDED THEIR BELIEFS.
they run from pillar to post whenever questions are raised about the rationality of their beliefs.

the day atheists start defending their beliefs, they will earn my respect.

huxley:
Just as you don't believe in Nflah-nflah believe you do not know who/what Nflah-nflah is (ie you do not know or have his ontology), atheist don't believe in Yahweh because we do not know who/what Yahweh is. If you give me an ontology that is plausible, maybe I might change my mind.

when did u become a full time LIAR?

"I dont know" is different from "I dont believe".

I dont know and have never heard of Nflah-nflah, that explains why i dont discuss or open threads about him/it.

U know who Jehovah God is that explains why u discuss HIS works by opening threads and criticising the scriptures.
That also explains y u dont believe in HIM.
so to help clear the irrationality of ur beliefs, I ask: who is Jehovah GOD? what is HIS ontology?

[quote author=Blood_Shed link=topic=266651.msg3802406#msg3802406 date=1241083651]You know how stupid it is trying to explain that to them? It's too damn obvious but they always try dodging it.

Brainwashed to the fullest.[/quote]do u know how stupid it is trying to see things from an atheists point of view?
A xtian gives u his proof and also explains his belief. u say his analysis are stupid, unacceptable and very unintelligent.
but the ironic thing is the average atheist cannot explain his belief/disbelief.

I consider this inability to explain his disbelief as the most irrational reality on the planet. I consider this inability very unintelligent, stupid and absolutely unassuming.

I have no problem with an intellectually driven disbelief against my beliefs. what I do have a problem with is the inability of an atheist to explain his belief/disbelief. and u call that intelligence? I say thats stupid!!!

huxley:
I believe in Nflah-nflah? Why don't you?

I neither belief or disbelief Nflah-nflah, cos i dont even know who/what it is.

but u dont believe in GOD, right?

uplawal:
Nairalanders its so funny and at the sametime not funny how some christians let the devil in them out when attacked by muslims, instead of them to face the truth,they give a defensive attitude by hurling insults on MUSLIMS without giving real proves,while the MUSLIMS always try to tell them the truth by showing them reasons why its said,the CHRISTIANS never done this but to pour insult people like may kelly, Lady fight her fellow xtians,could u imagine the madness, REALTRUTH the same as well, and others,they never gave right answers but to fight MUSLIMS,av read most topics on this thread, i can honestly say it as a former CHRISTIAN that the MUSLIMS always write with sense and in an humble and orderly manner, while the xtians just get annoyed unnecessary without backups,May God come to our rescue one day.

Another annoying thing is the way the CHRISTIANS point out to MUHAMMAD marrying a[b]ishat at 9 while they call it 6yrs old,[/b]while the same BIBLE said things like[b] hand defloration of virgina by their own fathers,3yrs old child sexually abused and sold to slavery[/b] and dnt the christians know leaders fought so many wars more than MUHAMMAD fought? its all there, so why are they always saying JIHAD O, JIHAD O, JIHAD REREREEEEEEEEEEE.

did mohammed not have sexual relations with a 9 year old girl? was that a good thing? would u let him have ur 9year old daughter?
where in the bible did u read about 3 year old girls?

huxley:
Early Christians, particularly Paul who was the first to write a surviving work about Jesus and Christian belief,  believed that Jesus was the first to die and the first to be raised from the dead. His writings suggest as much. According to Paul, a flesh and blood Jesus never walked on earth, but died and ressurected in the spiritual realm in heaven. Almost all of Pauls writings about Jesus's visit to the earth talks in terms of a COMING and not a RETURN or NOT a second coming.  This is strongly indicative that Paul never believed in an earthly Jesus who would have lived only a couple of decades early.  Let's look at some of Pauls verses:

1 Corinthian 15: 20-23:

20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.



Colossians 1: 18


18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.




Watch this video for more info.

trying to reconcile ur pathetic beliefs to the scriptures. While u are entitled to ur opinion, lying and misinformation are very bad virtues.

duduspace:
You think wrong and make me wonder if you understand at all what the use of the intellect is all about. The only way to reason is by asking questions and testing out assumptions using what, if and why scenarios. If you accuse me of intellectual inconsistency because I question your beliefs, then I wonder if you use your intellect at all.

I am trying real hard to refrain from insulting u, cos it appears thats the only language u tend to understand.

I have never disagreed with ur right to ask ur "intellectually" driven questions about my beliefs. what I do have a problem with, is ur seeming hypocritical intellectual inconsistency, that makes it impossible for u to subject ur beliefs to the same microscopic analyses u have placed on my beliefs.
why is that so hard for u to understand?

It matters not at all if you beleive that I cannot define or substantiate mine (even though yu did go ahead and define it in your own way) since we are all students looking for answers to questions of life.

why are u playing the sympathy card now?
u come crushing with anti-biblical questions,u get answers and when ur beliefs or lack of them are then placed under the same microscope, u start crying wolf, calling for sympathy.

On a side note, you seem enamoured with the use of the word ontology, yu've used it so much yu're sounding like a scratched record.

sounds like u are new to nairaland. u sound very uninformed.
if u understand the crunch of the atheist argument against the existence of GOD, then u will understand my obsession with "ontology".

u are an atheist, who is Jehovah GOD? what is HIS ontology?

This is pitiable and could only have come from the Davidylan school of "Win the argument by all means possible" what in that statement has anything to do with the potency of the bible? shows you are just shouting and not listening at all. Read the statement again without your fanatical mind and bias filled googles.

what are u saying? did ur memory go default?
didnt u make reference to the bible, to butress ur falsehood?

toneyb:
I now understand why Mazaje calls you the greatest goon on nairaland. Why are you fighting so hard?

so u subscribe to mazaje`s display of folly?

toneyb:
What then were you implying? Perharps you are too busy fighting with the Muslims on the Islamic thread that you forget to read some of what they are saying, I have read about some one say that a member of his family who was possesesed with demons was healed by an Imam once on the Islamic thread.

and for all ur years of enslavement to allah, thats all u can tell.

toneyb:
The fact that you have never heard does not mean there are no people out there talking and sharing their own testimonies of miracles in the Muslim and Buddhist faiths. There are millions of Muslims and Buddhist that talk about the miracles they have experienced on a daily basis.

please be objective.
I never made a categotical statement saying they dont exist.

But I have never HEARD, READ, SEEN OR WITNESSED any before. either ONLINE, on the RADIO, on TV or from other islamic sources (including nairaland folks).

oyb:
poor noetic, the slowpoke who can't read

go back through the links. a+b/2 etal they taught you in school is handed down from islamic scholars.

denial is a bitch, isn't it ?

islamic scholars or arabian scholars?

dont disguise ignorance as knowledge. what is civilised about islam in the 21st century?

the sexual relations with a 9 year old?
th beheading, amputation or floging of sharia victims?
the enslavement of generations of slaves by allah?
terrorism and the promise of 72 virgins?
incessant under-age islamic marriage?
the blood thirsty jihad infested appetite of allah?

WHAT EXACTLY IS THIS ISLAMIC CIVILISATION, . . . . , THOU IGNORANT SLAVE OF ALLAH

oyb:
er . . .UAE, KSA, yemen, Kuwait ?

in your dreams

Horus:
Well if you accused him of lying then you should produce the Facts and a proof of the alleged lie.
Where are your facts

cant u get simple english?

he made a claim without proof. . . .that literarily mean he was lying, considering his antecedents.

when he provided evidence, he proved he wasnt lying. . . simple.

duduspace:
As Jesus said in the bible, "You said it", I must point out though that in light of the dearth of information, what you have pointed out is a distinct possibility that was playing around somewhere at the back of my mind.

unlike the batallion of hypocrites called atheist on nairaland, u have for once made a categorical statement.
I as such imply that ur misinformed notions and dribbling were as a result of pre-conceived bias that prayer never works.
thanks for being explicit.

Having a pre-conceived opinion that prayer works denies you the ability to objectively analyse a case, hence your coming to hasty conclusions in the dim light of inconclusive evidence.
A clear indication of your bias and hypocrisy would be your inability to extend the same mindset to reported cases of healings by other religions e.g. islamic, buddhist, satanists e.t.c.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A MIRACLE IN ANY OF THE THREE RELIGIONS U STATED.

islam is more pre-occupied with amputation, beheading, flogging, marrying underage girls, abusing omen rights and killing to spread the gospel of "allah". I have never heard, seen or witnesed healing or miracles of any kind under the banner of islam.

The same goes for budhists.
The last time I checked satanists just like atheists worship themselves (atheists foolishly call theirs "free thinking".
So who is the miracle worker here?

Miraculous works of the Father is a work found amongst those called by the name of Christ.

You can accuse me of bias my dear but you can't accuse me of inconsistency.

I can accuse u of both.
I think it amounts to intellectual inconsistency if u question my beliefs, but cannot define or substantiate yours.
I understand u are an atheist. an atheist believes in the non-existence of Jehovah GOD.
Who is Jehovah GOD? what is HIS ontology?

Yeesh, are yu telling me you beleive everything you hear? even your bible talks of confirming by one or more witnesses (at least some good piece of common sense philosophy worth listening to in the midst of the fantasy stories your so called holy book is full of).

This is another case of inconsistency. u dont believe in the potency of the bible, so y refer to it to justify ur rhetorics?

Horus:
1- Yes you are judging anybody who is not a christian, anywhere on the forum.
2- And yes you see mistakes in anyone who do not follow the religion of the slave master like a sheep.
3- Instead of just judging anybody who do not follow like you the religion of the slave master you should produce the facts.
4- Instead of attempting to impose upon people your religious beliefs,you should produce the facts.
5- If your are not producing Facts when you accuse other people of lies then you are in a state of confusion.

while i understand that this is ur opinion and perception of my person, I must however state that this is false and malicious.

I have constatntly limited my contribution to issues. If u have any reasonable reason to question my beliefs, please raise them. While u do so, be smart enough to tell me what ur beliefs are.

Ascony:
The burden of proof lies on the believer. when will you folks understand that?

question: what are the beliefs of an atheists?

answer: That there is no GOD.

Who then is Jehovah GOD? what is HIS ontology?

huxley:
If so, it is worth remembering that you are NOT your beliefs. Learn to separate yourself from your beliefs and then look at your beliefs objectively as you look at the beliefs of other religions. Then watch this video for some more help.

u probably need this advice more than anyone else. you cant even defend any of ur beliefs.

u are an atheist. u dont[b] believe[/b] in the existence or supremacy of GOD who is JEHOVAH GOD? what is HIS ontology?
u have also been running from pillar to post using the rhetoric "i dont know" whenever the darwin evolution guess is placed under the microscope of reasoning.

Take ur own advice, review ur beliefs objectively.

another meaningless thread by huxley.

oyb:
Liberia
democratic republic of congo
Ethiopia

Christian African countries.

nuff said.

there is nothing like a Christian country. these are nations that refuse to adhere to the madness called sharia or its progenator allah's islam.

these are nations that encourage liberty, not islamic nations that postulate hatred and deny women and children rights, by encouraging under-age marriage like commorade mohammed did.

Horus:
Why are judging people like that?

who? where? when? how?

Are you without a sins?

did I ever imply this or the vice versa? where? when? how?

Why do you see mistakes in everyone?

who? when? where? how have I seen a mistake in anyone?

Who are you to judge people?,God?

now I think u are confused

Image123:
Please help me send the names of this children to him for serious prayer(s),no child must be waved.huxley,mazaje,kunle,bawomolo and their likes.

it would be a great idea. . . . we will await the manifestation of this prayer.

Horus:
when did u loose the ability to understand simple english? please read my post again.
This is (4) four questions for you.

I just cant figure out the relevance of ur questions to the thread. I smell hypocrisy in the air!!!

Bastage:
Yes, you pathetic cretin. They are totally irrelevant to this topic.

This thread is about civilisations now. Not civilisations a thousand years ago. Not past achievements of any civilisation.


So before you start blathering, how about actually reading the thread and answering the question I have asked time and time again in the context it was given. slowpoke.

how can u even refer to the ancient islamic attrocities modelled around evil as civilisation?

civilization and islam are two opposite poles, they never meet. what's civilised in paedophilic and anti-woman rights?
what's civilised in amputation, beheading and public flogging or marrying a 6 year old girl?