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Abuzola:
Also a tree was found in ikeja with an amazing inscription of 'Lailaha ilala muhammadu rasululah meaning there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger. Let him who have ears hear, thousands of people went there to see the signs of the omnipotent God

a. any news report about the tree?

b. any picture of the tree?

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mazaje:
This goons accepts what he reads in ancient texts written by people who if he met them today he will not trust them with the time of day, much less the origin of the unverse. . . .That you believe in it does not make it true . . . .

can this slowpoke produce his alternative to creationism and the bible?

toneyb:
Mazaje well done.

Now to neotic I asked if the bible can be used as a real historical document and you are still running all over the place. I showed you were a propecy was made that Nebuchadrezzar will conquer Egypt and that the Nile river will dry up, You lied that there was no time line specified when I showed you that it was supposed to happen during the reing of Nebuchadrezzar you came up with another excuse that some of the towns are no longer in existence, That actualy is a lie, Its just their names that have been changed.

what a gradual shift. . . .I thought u initially shamelessly postulated that there were no records outside of the bible to depict the existence of Jesus. . . now that u have them ur d.ick is in ur mouth. . .in remorse

The part in bold is a LIE. Here is what the link you posted says The link you posted made NO such claim. Lets look at the sources from the link.

From Tacitus

Tacitus was writing in the 2nd centuary(about 100 years after the supposed death of jesus). He wasn't a comtemporaty of jesus. He was just writing about what christians have been professing, he even called it the MOST MISCHIEVIOUS SUPERSTITION. He never said that jesus claimed to be the son of god, or that jesus died and was raised from the dead after 3 days. he never said that jesus performed miracles or called himself god or the son of god. He was only repeating the stories that christians have been saying. He wrote over 100 years after the supposed death of jesus. He was mostly writing about the life of the early christians and what they believed in.

Pliny the Younger

This does NOT say anything about jesus. Pliny the younger also wrote about 150 years after the supposed death and ressurection of jesus. He does not mention jesus or say anything about him. He only talks about the life of the early christians. Is this part of your evidence for jesus outside the bible? 

Josephus

This passage is a fraud and contains some interpolations by some early catholic bishops, Your link acknowlwdges it. Here is what your link says

"Did Josephus really write this? Most scholars think the core of the passage originated with Josephus, but that it was later altered by a Christian editor, possibly between the third and fourth century A.D.{18} But why do they think it was altered? Josephus was not a Christian, and it is difficult to believe that anyone but a Christian would have made some of these statements.

For instance, the claim that Jesus was a wise man seems authentic, but the qualifying phrase, "if indeed one ought to call him a man," is suspect. It implies that Jesus was more than human, and it is quite unlikely that Josephus would have said that! It is also difficult to believe he would have flatly asserted that Jesus was the Christ, especially when he later refers to Jesus as "the so-called" Christ. Finally, the claim that on the third day Jesus appeared to His disciples restored to life, inasmuch as it affirms Jesus' resurrection, is quite unlikely to come from a non-Christian!"

The writer in that link is honest enough to say that parts of it is a fraud and is an interpolation. Josephus will never call jesus the christ because he already believed that vapastin was the christ. The part about jesus's resurrection as noted by the writer of the link you posted is also a fraud.

Babylonian Talmud

If only you read the talmud it self you will know that it was NOT talking about jesus of the bible.

Uptill date there is NO historical document that talks about jesus and how he lived his life. The only document that did that are the gospels and books that were banned or thrown out of the bible. Nice try but these are all rubbish and nonsense try harder

blah blah blah

All that u have up there are ur personla opinion and interpretations of the non-biblical records u asked for.
ur opinion is not worth a cent. . .so it does not count.

From the above . . .we know four things

a. Jesus Lived as claimed by the bible.

b. Jesus Died and all of israel knew. . .believers and non-believers

c. Jesus resurrected as evidenced in latter day evangelism

d. non-biblical records from non-christians attest to the facts above.

Why EXACTLY does this brainless RETARD have a problem with stating his alternative to creationism? why are u so mentally lazy. . .such that u cannot think for urself and present ur own ideas or at the very least intelligently defend the rubbish u copy-paste from google?
where is ur alternative to the writings of "deluded and barbaric" men?. . . . .

mazaje:
Please show me one historical evidence which shows that jesus actually LIVED, DIED and WAS RESURRECTED OUTSIDE THE BIBLE. . . You are the ONLY FOOL that I know who HAS EVER made that ridiculous claim. . . .

what a blank head.

Read Toneyb's last post . . . or better still start ur research from here: http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4223639/k.567/Ancient_Evidence_for_Jesus_from_NonChristian_Sources.htm

when u are through let me know. . . .The fact remains the same, . . .Jesus Lived, Died and Resurrected. Extra biblical historical records attest to this fact.

I didn't say it says that christians should rape. . . I only said that the bible was mostly written by people who thought it was right to scarifice virgins and burn entire towns as a burnt offering unto their god. . .they wrote it down for all to see. . . . 

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

I have addressed this repeatedly on several threads. The old testament commandments have been summarised and fulfilled by Christ Himself.
They all add up to Love.

How does the above verse lend credence to ur point? I just dont get it. . . . or do u?

Do you know how many people were killed during the crusades, inqusition, witch trail and all the other attrocites that were carried out in the name of jesus by people who used the cross as a source of inspiration? Stalin never said he killed any body in the name of atheism, he killed people purely based on political difference not because he wanted to convert them into atheism. . . millions have been killed in the name of jesus and yahweh. . . . . . You pathetic attempts to tie stalins attrocities to atheisn is very shameful. . . . he never preached atheism to any body. . . You brothers in the lord used the cross as a source of inspiration when killing jews and other non believers during the inquisition, witch trial and crusades no?

will u please shut ur shamelessly brainless mouth.

how many people did Jesus kill? how many people did he ask his disciples to kill? why did ur christian parents not kill u?
Stalin killed simply because he believed there is no God. . .he did not kill for political differences. . .he only hid under the cloud of politics. . .he was well reputed atheist fundamentalist, a cold blooded animalistic slowpoke like every potential atheist is. . . .

Lets start with one false propehcy that NEVER happened. . . Ezekiel predicted Babylon would conquer Egypt and was wrong It never happened. Your lying bibloe says that Nebuchadrezzar will conquer egypt and that the nile river will dry up and the whole Egypt will be desolute for 40 years but it never happened. . .

This has been addressed already.

Like jesus christ being god and the same time sitting at the right hand side of god right very nice. . . .Or is it the nonsense tale that jesus christ being god was praying unto himself. . . . Nice spritual tale indeed. . . .

On the contrary. . . . I believe that Jesus was only demonstarting to us how exactly we should pray and what to ask for , . . I sat this because.

a. Long before Jesus was born, all of His deeds was foretold.

b. When Jesus came. . .He made it clear that He is here to simply fulfil the things that had been said about Him in the prophecy.

From the two above I can deduce (because I have a brain. . . .unlike u) that when ever Jesus was praying it was in effect a teaching to believers on how to pray. One key lesson in His final prayer is that regardless of the circumstances we all should learn to submit to the father.
Jesus is God in human form. . . . u dont have to believe. . .but judgement is set.

What historical facts exactly. . . the exodus that never happened or the fact that the writer of matthew and mark fail to agree on when exactly jesus was born? What about the lie written by matthew that babies were killed when jesus was born by herod that appears in no other book but in the gospel of matthew. . . a story that was not talked about by people that wrote almost every detail of herods like people like josephus that did not even like him. . . .

blah blah blah

Ther are enormous historical and scientific records that establish that the red sea parted for the children of israel, that they were held captive and gained the promised land.

Hoe EXACTLY does mathew and mark not agree on the birth of Jesus?

Ecc 1:5  "The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises." Or the fact that the bible says evil spirits causes diseases. . .  Is it the nonsense that says that there is a firmament that seperates the waters above and waters below. . . or the stupid lie that a person survived inside a fish for 3 days. . . can you use your basic knowledge biology to tell me how he was able to breathe and stay alive inside a fish for 3 days. . . .  Are these the scientific facts? 

1. Ecc 1.5 is a proverb and not a prophetic revelation. any one with a common sense would treat it as such. . .why not read the entire chapter and find out.

2. what is ur explanation for the absence of diseases during the reign of moses as leader of israel. . . .or the 10 plagues that befell Egypt?
This were supernatural acts. while it is impossible to verify how spirits cause diseases. . . .we do know that diseases and all of evil that we face today are products of sin. . .there is no reason to believe other wise.

That you choose to accept the words of fools who say that it is OK to stone to death their disobedient children or fools who say women should keep quite and not speak in front of men and their hands should be cut off when they dare attempt to rescue their husbands from his attackers as the word of your god does not mean it is true. . . .The koran is the word of allah no?. . . . deluded fool. . . .

you have said this over a billion times. . . .that u also choose to disregard the bible does not make u a better person or any less an hypocrite.
In fact reading ur posts reveals a completely delusive and slowpoke-like brainless atheistic troll. . .who has little or no reasoning faculty.
Do u actually read the rubbish u post here sometimes?

Will you keep quite you dishonest and discredited fool. . . were you not the same fool that was trying to defend the passage in the bible that says that parents should stone to death their disobedient children by foolishly and ridiculously equating it to treason? Idiot. . .

As if your own religion has better moral norms. . . .

whats this RETARD saying?

Because you choose to believe that delusion does not make it true. . . . .Who is going to judge me you or the imaginary gods of the trinity. . . I laugh in tongues. . . . . . 

Actually the person that needs a brain is you. . . . . .


So many times. . . . We have debated that long before you came to NL. . . .

Bla bla bla bla bla what has science got to do with the fact that Paul said that it is OK for him to Lie for his god. . . . Idiot. . . . . . .Keep on believing their lies. . . . .

Can u please produce ur alternative to creationism and the bible?

why is it taking u so long? . . . . .

@ Tudor

Noetic what happened to you?
Were you banned again?

I missed ur post . . . .

I was banned. . . .but I guess twas the spam bot. Thanks

mazaje:
Your foolishness is pathetic. . . . I have done that so many times. . . . . .

Really? when? where?

Do u mind refuting and representing ur alternative here for all to see. . . . . . .

mazaje:
Of course they are lies. . . .that you believe them does not stop them from being the lies that they are. . . . You are my evidence that they are lies . . . .You call all the claims of the koran lies don't you? Where is your evidence to show that they indeed are lies. . . That you chose to believe in what some unknown people wrote about a jewish carpenter who once lived coming back to save you from himself does not stop it from being a lie. . . . .

More pathetic and ridiculous nonsense. . . . because you believe in the writting of some people who say that thoseof us that do not share in their delusions are condenmed does not make it true. . .condemned of what exactly if I may ask? Is it not the same fools that wrote that it was right to rape and kill virgins and also scarifice them to the dememted deity the created? Thank goodness the world has changed if not I know goons like you will be in the forefront kinnling entire towns and scarificing them as burnt offerings unto your demented god as your wannabe ancestors(Moses, joshau and co) did in the bible. . . . . .My conscience is not picking me at all. . . .

u never cease to amaze me with ur gullibility irked by ignorance, self denial and delusion.

1. there are historical non-biblical evidences/records that establish that Jesus indeed lived, died and resurrected.  That should be a cause of alarm for u cos u are definitely hell bound.

2. I have repeatedly asked u. . . where EXACTLY in the bible was it asked of christians to rape. kill and sacrifice virgins? why are u such a RIDICULOUS liar?

3. Do u know how much crime was committed in the name of atheism? which religious person killed as many people as Stalin and other known atheists. . . .You are a ridiculous hypocrite.  

What is real about the bible? Because some ancient men wrote that their god used words to speak life into humans whom he made from dust does not make it real. . . .that you believe a jewishcarpenter is coming back to save your miserable ass from himself if you don't bow down and kiss his toes does not make it real. . . . Actually it's your post that reeks of delusion, stupidity, close mindedness, incompetence, irrelevance and utmost stupidity. . . .

Everything about the bible is real. . . .
a. its prophetic revelations
b. spiritual accuracies
c. historical facts
d. scientific notions et all.

That u choose to disbelieve the bible based on ur self inflicted ignorance, delusive mental disorder, denial, moral debauchiveness, intellectual incompetence and lack of a reasoning capacity does not dispute the fact that the . . .BIBLE is TRULY the WORD of GOD.

It's ACTUALLY you that can not think for yourself. . . . little wonder you are always trying to rationalize(mostly through telling lies) the babaric writing of ancient goons who though that it was right to stone to death disobedient children, cut the hands of women who go to rescue their husbands from their attackers or rape virgins and sacrifice them to the demented god the created in their own image. . . .

you keep missing the point. . .largely due to the fact that u do not have a brain at all. ur posts do not give any reason to believe that u have one. . or do they?  

I am not thinking within any box or attempting to defend any book or GOD. . .I am simply revealing the jejune inconsistencies and unsound postulations of urs. . .postulations a 5 year old should not be found saying as they lack a convincing intellectual capacity. . . .

What are my ignorant postulations? Aren't you all over the islamic section telling them that their god is dead and yours is alive. . . .If your god is trukly alive he will do it himself. . .he will not allow a know nothing and irrelevant slowpoke like you to do it for him. . . . . .Aren't you all over the place trying to show that the words and events talked about in the bible are true? Is the bible your word. . . . . why not allow the god you claim owns the bible to speak for himself and show people all the evidence himself. . . . The fact that you are the one doing it says that he does not exist outside of your deluded imaginations. . . . .

again. . . .u like running around aimlessly to prove nihilant points.

1. My islamic posts reflect my disgust at the moral questions on islamic norms. Any idiot could have deduced that from my posts there.

2. God has repeatedly revealed himself through Jesus. . . . . u have the choice and liberty to either believe or disbelief. u have irrationally and unintelligibly chosen to believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus. . .are u ready to live with the consequences. . .judgement is set.

Where is your personal contract between you and the jesus that you claim appears to you in your dreams telling you that he toldpeople to write the bible on his behalf? Will you stop talking about humility. . . . humility is what you lack completely. . . . . .Stop talking about it cos you lack it completely. . . . .

do u actually have a brain at all? how many times have u asked this question on this thread?. . .sounds like u have nothing new to say?

I have done that so many times. . . . .

when and where exactly have u done so? u can repeat it right here. . .cant u. . . . .lying is not allowed.

That you chose to accept their lies does not make it true. . .where is your contract with the jesus that you claim appears to you in your dreams telling you that he inspired them to write most of the things they wrote? Some of them(Like Paul) at least were honest to say that they can even lie for their god if it will promote him. . . . . The koran was inspired by another god too no? deluded an pathetic idiot. . . . .

That u hide under the cloud of science does not give credibility to ur rantings. . . . . if further reveals the gullibility and porosity of ur reasoning and thinking faculties. . . Gush. . . . . did u actually post the above?  

mazaje:
So getting a job is called a miracle? 

Depends on the circumstances involved. Do u actually know the meaning of the word miracle?

I am yet to see any divine intervention when it comes to the healing of amputees. . . . can your god perform such a miracle?

does the above establish that amputees are unhealable. . . or does it deny the capacity of God to heal.
I think u should think before u open ur mouth.

Only because you are lying to yourself. . . didn't the bible say that those of you that believe in jesus will have the ability to preform magic(miracles)? Do you truly believe what the bible says if so how many blind people have you ever restored their sights like jesus promised you will be able to if only you believe in him? Do you believe in jesus and have faith as tiny as that of a mustard seed? If you do then let me know how many blind people you have been able to restore their sights. . . . That will sway me and make a a christain once again. . . .

you are fast becoming a nuisance. How many times have I answered this question?

Creationism is the thoughts and ideas of how bronze aged men thought the universe and the earth came about. . . .Its nothing more than a false and ridiculous hypothesis. . .

Really? how come u cannot refute creationism or produce an alternative?

mazaje:
Well actually there is NO problem at all if you believe the lies and let it end there. . . .you use the lies as a justification to look down on others and as long as you continue to do that then you should always expect a push back. . . . . .

1. first u call them lies. . . when u have no evidence or basis to establish that they are lies. This shows a deeply rooted angst and bitterness traceable to ur childhood.

2. who EXACTLY have I looked down on? how is it my fault that u are already CONDEMNED and a candidate of HELL and eternal damnation?
is ur conscience pricking u?

Last time I checked u also chose to believe the lies that the bible is not real. . . . .no problem with that, except that u use it as a justification to think that u are intelligent, objective and open minded. .  .on the contrary u are neither of all those. . . . u are deluded, uninformed, ignorant, misguided, unintelligent, naive et all, . .  , all of these are deducible from ur posts.

You are my evidence that your god exist only in your deluded imaginations. . . . .I have said it so many times no god that truly exist will rely on an irrelevant entity like you to make his case for him at all. . . he will do it himself. . . .As for the bible writers its only people that are deluded that will write that the sun moves round the earth. . . if stoning disobedient children and human scarifice isn't barbarism then pls tell me what is. . . .

This is a raw display of intellectual bankruptcy and laziness. . .you are simply mentally lazy and cannot think for ur self.
How many times have u repeated the drivel above?. . . , u now sound like a broken record.

I am not defending any one. .  .on the contrary I am simply revealing the inconsistencies, fallacies and jejune claims of ur ignorant postulations. God is not defendable by any one. . . . .all I have done is to keep revealing the short comings of ur ridiculously impotent arguments.

How do you know this? because your deluded mind tells you? I onced seeked the imaginary god with all my heart and never got anything. . . .My deconversion was personally a very painfulprovessto me but am VERY glad it happened. . . .The human brain is a very complex organ. . . . . What you claim is response is just your mind playing tricks on you. . . . .Didn't you once say that jesus appears to you in your dreams? . We all know that people always dream about what preocupies their minds most of the time. . . .Pls how did jesus look like and what language did he speak. . . Is he really a black man as NO2atheism says he is?. . . ,

Arrant Nonsense.

I know this because it is written in the bible. ok now u agree that u were just a christian by name and not by deeds. .  , . . . christianity is not for the inane and egoic ones. . . .its a relationship driven by humility. , . , and the fact is YOU WERE NEVER A CHRISTIAN

Where is your contact with your god telling you that he ordered any body to write the bible on his behalf?

Again your deluded opinion and claims are of NO importance here. . . . . .Its good to rant sometimes so I will allow you do that. . .  . . .

1. are u not ashamed of urself?   u cannot even substantiate ur claims or define ur beliefs. . .and u dare attack some one else beliefs. . .this is medically called LUNACY.

2. God inspired men to write the bible. . . , u can exercise ur choice to either believe or disbelieve.

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