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[quote author=Igwe. link=topic=305835.msg4306084#msg4306084 date=1249506266]Why feed yourself with negative thoughts?
I think most of the things enumerated here could only be noticed by the person that finds him/herself in that situation, if stretched further, you'd find out that all these happen in the absent of the other party.[/quote]when did I loose the right to air my independent opinion?

mazaje:
It all depends on what you call Miracles. . . Getting a job in Nigerian is called a miracle these days. . .If you call surviving a car accident, having a safe journey, getting a good wife, living a healthy life without falling sick for decades, Going to the hospital and surving a terminal illness after taking some medication,having lots of money, or some how getting out of trouble when all odds are against you etc

Depending on the circumstances involved. . . .all of the above are indeed miracles.

miracles then I will say that you don't really know what miracles as described by the bible really are. . . Atheist, muslims buddist all experience all these things. . .I personally survived a robbery attack in which some people were killed January this year in Abuja. . . That's pure luck not miracle(because I am NOT better than any of the guys that were killed at all) and so many people experience it regardless of their religious beliefs. . .When you talk about clear cut miracles like walking on water, healing an amputee and making their amputated limbs grow back. . .then I an tell you that NO christian has ever experiened ANY of them. . . . .What you guys call miracles HAPPEN to people ALL the time regardless of their religious beliefs. . . . .Atheist survive gun shot wounds. . . plane crash etc. . . Its just luck. . .

Miracle is a function of three things
a. divine intervention
b. ur belief system
c. universality.

Miracles happen all the time to everyone regardless of the religious beliefs of the recipient. You have not said anything to discredit the credibility of miracles. . . or have u?

I don't have any real or true explanation for how the world and the universe came about neither do you the scientist and the ancient goons that thought it was right to rape young virgins and sarifice them to their deity as an offering. . . .NOBOY really knows how the universe ame about. . . the fact that you accept the lies of some ancient guys who believe that their god once drowned the earth an left behind a drunkard an his incestous family doesn't make it true. . . .

what a shame

ever heard of creationism?

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mazaje:
You see the problem. . .Did any "heavenly father" tell your personally that he inspired any bother to write the bible on his behalf? Are you not just believing the writings of people who wrote what ever they wante to write and ascribe it to their god?. . . . .You only believe the writings of those who wanted you to believe what they thought and imagined. . . at least some the gospels were sincere enough to write that they wrote down their accounts because they wanted people to believe in them. . . Paul uses words like "My gospel" and even gave the impression that it is OK for him to lie for his god. . .

why is there a problem with my choice to believe these writings. . . .when u also willingly made ur choice to disbelieve this writings?
why is it not a problem to you that u CANNOT substantiate ur beliefs? u have no evidence to support ur claims and beliefs . . . .and u dare call writers of the bible "deluded" and "barbaric"?
ur delusion and ignorance is much more obvious. . . otherwise, how EXACTLY do u intend to substantiate ur beliefs?

My deconversion from christianity was a very painful process to me  personally because I knelt down and prayed but I only reaslized that I was only talking to myself and just wishing away. . . If you were born into a hausa moslem family from bauchi state, I KNOW that you will be here telling us that allah's thoughts and wishes are all written in the koran all we need to do is read it with an open mind and pray to him. . . . .

please save ut fairy tales for fellow minded ignorant and delusive atheists. You were NEVER a christian. .  . u only attended church for ur pleasure and never sought after God with all your heart.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to seek after God with all ur heart and never get a response. . . .save ur lies and dogmatic lines for ur congregation of atheists

I actually believe that you guys need to ask yourselves that question. Atheism has no god no matter how hard you keep trying to convince yourself that it does. . . atheism actually is the direct opposite of your thoughts. . . .You are the ones that ACTUALLY DO ALL THE WORK for your god . . . You always claim to tell people what he thinks. . .likes. . .hopes. . . wishes. . .and dislikes. . . .I am YET to see any god do that for himself. . . If any god truly exists NON of you guys will need to say anything on his/her behalf. . . . . HE/SHE WILL DO IT THEMSELVES. . . .

God has actually done all of the above. . . .all u have to do is to pick up the bible and educate urself.

Atheism is an intellectually lazy dogmatic approach at attaining mental irrationality. atheism is the only means of saying 1+1 = 12 . ,  while hiding under mathematical knowledge and still not proving how u came about the answer.
atheism is an irrational disease that bothers on the mind and brain.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=305368.msg4305856#msg4305856 date=1249504604]OOH YEAH!
why don't you in the same vein QUIT nairaland since you're so bothered with the atheists hijacking you. Rubbish!
Spare us your nimby whining each time you see we atheists. . .quit![/quote]why should anyone be bothered with atheists who NEVER make sense?

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mazaje:
The person that ACTUALLY lives in ignorance and total denial is you.

What exactly are the things that you "see"? The bible talks about signs that will follow those that are christians so that people will see and believe no? It says once you believe in jesus you will be able to perfoem magic like healing the blind, healing the sick and rasing people from the dead just like the bible says your go did. . . . how many blind people have you ever healed? . Why is it that non of the christains around are able to perform this magic. . . . all we see are frudulent lies peddled all the time. . . . as toneyb always says is it because the whole tale is a lie?

Are u saying that no christian has ever received a miracle? or what EXACTLY is the point in the post above?

That is your own claim and hypothesis. . .you and the people that wrote the lies that are in the bible, koran and other religious text out there. . . . your god did not create me. . .NOBODY knows for sure how the universe came about. . .all we have are different attempts by scientist, religious people (who always in the business of speaking for their various gods) etc trying to postulate how the universe the earth and everything that is inside it came about. . . . I say the invisible pink unicorn that orbits the sun create the universe prove me wrong. . . .

will u shut up?

whats ur explanation to the world as we see it today? how did man come about? the sun? the moon? the stars? animals and plants?
whats ur explanation for the source, origin and sustainability of life?

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bawomolo:
spreading your ideology is basically evangelism.  an atheist advertising there's is no God on a bus is no different from the jehovah witness that disturbs you while you are eating breakfast.   The key here is Christians can't seem to handle their own poison.

what makes u think anyone is disturbed by the advert on the bus? the advert simply reminded true christians that indeed. .  .we are now at the end times. It is atheists who have a headache when christians go about their business. . . . why EXACTLY is that so? why atheists? why?

you are right.  timothy mcveigh and co were atheist terrorists.  The guy who blows up abortion clinic is an atheist terrorist.  

Oh wait. that's right.  Is the church being repressed in countries like sweden?

how does any of these measure up to what stalin did?

he is a SWIT guy. . . . .one love