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@Wirinet: « #12 on: August 02, 2009, 08:22 PM » Its obvious that Jamiru was inquiring about evolution of man from some remote specie(s), which is less intelligent, less important than human. This is the hypothesis that Darwin and his cronies have been peddling, not a mere usage of new building materials and elements and styles. Is there an evidence of Darwin hypothesis? No.

Your idea to indicate that 'various achitectural styles and elements' can be used to argue any form of evolution ignores the fact that the designers and builders of these "various architectural styles and elements" are the unchanging humans. The styles and elements are developed and enacted based on the simple statement of logic/practicality of Form follows function. You can't build a 200 storey high building by no use of building machineries like cranes, and yet for cost effectiveness, etc it will not make any economic sense to build it in stones, or bricks, etc! Technology is not evolution, it is simply development, not evolvement.

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[quote author=Tudór link=topic=304828.msg4292399#msg4292399 date=1249319619]Are you the one to tell him what to name his thread?
He said "questions for noetic", if you can't answer or you're scared say so.
So much for your objectivity. . . .[/quote]u just open open ur mouth to ejaculate ur ignorance. . .do u know the posts that led to the topic?

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I just want to deal with the historical accounts of events recorded in that bible that have been shown to be false when compared to other historical sources.

The gospel according to Matthew states that king Herod ordered the killing on all  male babies in bethlehem when jesus was born and jesus's parents had to escape with him to egypt. There is no historical evidence for this by King Herod, even though any such action would surely have been recorded by his many enemies among the Jews, This act would have been recorded in the works of historians like Josephus who wrote very much about herod and all he did. This story exists only in the gospel of matthew and no where else. Is is an event that was said to have happened but lacks historical support outside the gospel according to matthew. Contemporary writers like Josephus would have written about it it it really happened.

The gospel of matthew also talked about the bodies of the dead jewish saints raising from the dead and walking across jerusalem for everybody to see when jesus was crucified. No contemporary jewish historian has ever written or mentioned anything like that, This extra ordinary event would have been recorded by at least one of the historians at that time or would have appeared in another document. There were so many contemporary writers at that time that would have recorded this extra ordinary event if it ever took place. The fact that this story appears only in the gospel of matthew which was written about 60 or more years after the events that it was narrating and does not appear in any other historical document of that time shows that the story is non historical and is a lie.

There are historical records that establish that Jesus indeed Lived and Died. , . yet many still say that he is merely a fictional figure.
So I ask. . . .what difference would an historical record of herods killings make in ur life?

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toneyb:
Suggests what? Did you bother to read where the biblegod said that he will provide a place for them and they will not be disturbed anymore?

You are fast running out of gas. I believe that this concern has been addressed.

More nonsense. the prophecy states that there will never be a time without a man upon that throne. But in point of historical fact, the Davidic line of kings ended with Zedekiah. 450 yrs. later, the Maccabeans had a brief reign. But for 2000 years, there has been no Davidic king. The prophecywas about an earthly king Jesus was not an earthly king according to the bible and he never sat on any throne.

What is astonishing is your unrepentant ignorance and inability to admit ur err.
how does the prophecy STRICTLY involve an earthly king? This is the height of ignorance.
For the past 2000 years. .  .King Jesus from the lineage of David has been on the throne.

Is this the new escapist tactics? The bible god was referring to Babylon and its inhabitants at that time your ridiculous attempt to tie the failed prophecy and make it a timeless one is shameful. It says that Babylon will never be inhabited by people again and the biblegod said that he will completely cut of Babylon, her name and survivors. It never happened your attempt to make it look as if it is was supposed to happen in our present time or the future is ridiculous.

What a disgrace.

I asked u if the prophecy has a time line. . .because babylon as we know it has become just as the bible says it would be. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon

But my question is derived from the fact that the prophecy could mean far more than u are attempting to portray it. until u run ur mouth again. . .I will reserve further comments.

That is not an answer but an evasion, that prophecy was sent out to the people living in damasus at that time your attempt to tie it to the damascus of today is ridiculous and makes no sense at all.

will u stop embarrassing urself? 

this is Ezekiel 30:12
12 I will dry up the streams of the Nile
       and sell the land to evil men;
       by the hand of foreigners
       I will lay waste the land and everything in it.
      I the LORD have spoken.

What part of the above verse suggests a time-line? 

All these ridiculous attempt at making sense of nonsense and lies. All the prophecies say that the Nile River will dry up at that time and Egypt will become desolate for 40 years, with no man or animal passing through it and with all Egyptians dispersed, but as a matter of fact the Nile River has never dried up and in the whole history of Egypt no such calamitous events have ever occurred. Your fraudulent attempt to make all the lies look timeless is very shameful.

That does not dispute the fact that

a. The prophecies could have a deeper meaning than the face-value meaning u are attempting to attach to it

b. There is no time-line for the fulfilment of this prophecy. Since many other prophecies have attained fulfilment there is no reason to assume that this would not.

The bible NEVER said that the earth is a sphere, it only tallked about the earth being a circle with the biblegod sitting on top of it. The bible also says the earth has pillars, and four corners no?

a. we know as a matter of fact that science was very WRONG to claim that the earth is flat. The bible was right to state that the earth is a circle.
Science can be wrong again and again as we have seen in the case of evolution. The truth of the bible remain eternal. . . creationism also attests to this.

b. There is no reason to believe that the earth does not have four pillars. .  ,  .and u have not said anything to suggest so.

More attempt to explain nonsense do you know that the language of canaan has become extinct now?

Where is your evidence for this great lie? This was Isaiah's prophecy to the the people of Israel(zion) at that time your attempt to turn it into something else is very ridiculous. 

[b]Where in the bible does it state that or is this the new lie you have up your sleeve? i[/b]t says that Jews who choose to live in Egypt will all die and leave no remnant that never happened I dont even know what to make of your fraudulent attempt or turning it into something else.

I have seen the lie and it makes me laugh.

but I thought that u were once  a christian? 

Classified by who you? .

are u so dumb?  what was the purpose of the thread? 

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