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mazaje:
Lies do not need an alternative. . . .

a. what are lies?

b. how do u detect a lie? what constitutes a lie?

c. whats the link between the bible and lies?

We were all born by our parents through one way or the other. . . . The question you should provide answers for is how your own god came about. . . . who created him? If you claim that your god is uncaused caused and uncreated then uncaused  and uncreated existence is very very possible. Then why can't the universe itself be uncaused and uncreated? There's no reason to add the additional step of postulating a god as the source of the origin of the universe because some people said so without providing ANY evidence for such a god in the first place.

So u agree that we were born and did not Evolve.

a. How exactly did the pioneer parents come into existence?

There is no reason to believe that the universe must behave like a human socity where everything "created" requires a creator. . .our solar system is just like a grain on sand on a beach when compared to the size of the universe. . . we know very lvery little about the universe as of now. . . .No body knows exactly how the universe came about. . . we have postulations from all sides but the truth is that NO one knows how the universe came about. . . . just because the lying bible writers said a warrior god that accepts human sacrifice created the universe out of nothing in seven days it does NOT make it true. . . .allah and all the other gods around also created the universe too. . . . .even if we assume that the universe had a first cause you haven't begun to show or provide any evidence at all to show that it is the "god of the bible" that is the first cause you simply asserted it. Moslems, hindus, african traditional religion, buddist etc all make the same assertion. . . .The question is Where is your evidence to show that the bible god actually created the universe? Pointing to the writings of men who thought and lied the stars will fall into the earth someday or men who lie that sun moves around the earth is no evidence at all

a.what are these postulations? why EXACTLY do u disbelieve any of them?
b. what is ur evidence/ basis for disbelieving the biblical account of the universe?
c. Dont u consider it ridiculously that u have no idea about how the universe came into existence?

reindeer:
I just imagined Alhaji on the pulpit,oh la la

he doesnt even have to shave his beard, it will all add to the glory of God.
And imagine this, Abuzola as his pulpit boy
Ministering at the ex-zealot ministries inc,


Alhaji and Abuzola, what say ye?

amen

where is olabowale?

and then?

so?

seyenko:
Noetic - Big Bang is an act of God, the bible said
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.'

Just like i said the bible and science are simply looking at same issue from different perspective - if you have listened to the commentary of same footbal match from 2 different stations with 2 independent commentator, you will hear similar things in their commentary but with some difference because one commentator might be east of the stadium while the older is north of the stadium. They are watching and commenting on same match but are likely to see the play of the match differently.

If you read the first 4 books of the new testament - matthew, mark , luke and john - you will see a lot of similarities but with subtle difference because each writer as a different means of expressing himself.

I remember when i use to draw and paint in high school, we all seat circularly around an object chosen by our art teacher but we have different drawing because we are looking at same object but from different angle.

u have not told me what business God had to do with the big bang?

atheists and evolutionists believe that the big bang was an accident. . . . .the bible does not describe creation as an accident, but a well planned event. . . . .So why dont u tell me how the two fit in?

please stay away from them.

If they are capable of coming up with such an idea. . . then they are definitely capable of hurting u seriously.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=307334.msg4323353#msg4323353 date=1249829573]Oh my! I'm touched * * * . . .i thought you'd never ask. . . .
Come here you dum dum. . . . *arms wide open* [/quote] u never cease to disgrace urself

meaning?

Abuzola:
Repent ? How many born again christian engage in fornication, almost everyday here in lagos if Punch did not publish 'A married Pastor died on another man's wife it will be the sun newspaper or pastor caught with another man's wife in a hotel' keep deceiving yourself

and ur point is?. . . .

.

meaning what BYL

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=307334.msg4323291#msg4323291 date=1249828402]oooops you could have said it better. . . .how about. . . . .
Thank you TUDOR for exposing my IGNORANCE[/quote]

ooops u could have replied better. . .how about. . . .

my IGNORANCE is very embarrassing as you can see. . . .can u please help me Noetic. . . , .

I would go back to sleep


caught KelvinJ shagging ur daughter?

Kelvinj:
then it must be beyonce,
dat noetic waz on top of u moaning?

ogi ati akara

,

pako (chewing sticks)

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=307334.msg4323229#msg4323229 date=1249827380]As usual you barge in lying for jesus.

How the hell should i know? Was i alive when the universe came into existence? One thing i do know is the christian god didn't do it
mirror mirrorWhat is the bible?
What the hell is an after-life?
Only a liar says he made the moon stand still or walk on water and it's even a deluded man who commits murder and genocide in the name of an imaginary god.Get yourself a tissue. . . . 
Duh, to pull you out of your ignorance ofcourse. . . .
There's no evidence to prove god exists. . . .is there?

intellectual evidence?. . . .howbout anything that hasn't been proven to exist is non-existent, okay for ya?
faith in what?
Can't you read? I already answered this question. are u not disturbed by ur moral debauchery and inability to intellectually proclaim and analyse ur atheistic beliefs?
Errr because there's no proof for the existence of god? Your kidding right?

I'm a saint when my lifestyle is compared with god's generals like moses, abraham, david and solomon.
Simple. Don't believe in god till they prove it to ya.

Well i guess i feel like a Like a christian. :DThe highlighted above should be renamed fruits of the spirit. Coz quite honestly, they are the hallmark qualities of a christian.

Hope you're watching the community shield. . .enjoy the game![/quote]Can anyone figure out what this dude is saying?

manmustwac:
Abeg i no wan drag the issue with you. Have a nice day.

ooops u could have said it better. . . .how about. . . . .

Thank you Noetic for revealing my IGNORANCE

Ogaga4Luv:
-The Careless one
-The Superficial Entity
-Confussion
-Barrier
-Anti Human race
-The Hiding landlord
-The Founder of Evil
-Pretender
-Insane Father"As claimed"written.

He hears u very well.

manmustwac:
ok noetic in the bible genesis 1 chapter 1 it says god created blah blah blah blah but it dosen't give an accurate timeline it dosen't say wether god created the world 2000 years ago 10'000 years ago 250 millionyears ago or 4 billion years ago.

and ur point is?. . . . . . .

back to dinosaurs. . . . what is ur biological or general classification of dinosaurs?
are they birds, reptiles, animals, crawling objects, flying objects, humans or what?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=296345.msg4323129#msg4323129 date=1249825401]So are we supposed to be trembling with fear or what? [/quote]not really. . . . .just that u know that unless u repent. . .u are condemned

manmustwac:
well i don't remember hearing anything about them in the bible

when was the last time u read the book of genesis chapter 1?

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=307334.msg4322241#msg4322241 date=1249798596]This is a bloody lie and you know it!
Your bible and creationism have been repeatedly shown to lack basis and truth.
You only make the same claims that ever Tom , d.ick, and Harry attributes to their own gods without any sensible and substantial evidence to prove YOUR own god did it.
So stop lying!

Each time we debunk your bogus claims y'all open threads crying like babies that atheists have hijacked nairaland.[/quote]

will u stop disgracing urself?

when have I ever complained about ur never meaningful posts? when?   when have u EVER debunked any christian claim?
stop ranting unnecessarily. . .  .do the debunking here?

Delusive ignorance?
Are you kidding me?!?
Have you looked in a mirror lately?
Which God are you talking about?
There are millions of gods on this planet, even in africa alone millions of them exist.

please be focused.

What EXACTLY is the alternative? how EXACTLY did we all come into existence? how was the universe designed? by who? when?

Alternative as in what?
What EXACTLY is the function of the bible?

To me it's just a fictional BOOK written by deluded liars and nothing more.
If your looking for alternative literature,  "Mills and Boon" or the book "I AM A DELUDED CHRISTIAN" should do fine.

u never cease to amaze me with ur RIDICULOUS RANTS.

where is ur evidence to disprove the bible? what is ur alternative? on what premise and basis is after-life?
a. where is ur evidence that suggests that bible writers are liars and deluded?
b. why is reasoning such a very big deal to u?

The rationalism behind atheism is quite simple. . . . And that is DISBELIEF IN GOD DUE TO THE INABILITY OF RELIGIONISTS TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE FOR THEIR GOD. It's simply refusing to believe by "faith" but by asking for testable or verifiable evidence- of which you christian apologists are morbidly deficient.



There I was on my own in my mother's womb minding my own business for nine months.
As soon as am born Tits are stuck in my mouth as well as every religious crap available. I was born WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OR BELIEF in any GOD whatsoever and was fed the jesus bullshit because my brain was no better and reasoning and analytical faculties were undeveloped. If babies were born with the brain and intelligence of adults don't you think that without any prior knowledge of god the first thing they ask you when the pastor comes with the religious banter is, where is the evidence?
Only a daft and foolish pastor would ask the kid to provide evidence for the god he or she doesn't even know in the first place. Or to provide an alternative when the little dude is just coming into the world and knows nothing.The blatant deficiency in evidence to prove the existence of yahweh is reason  enough to disbelieve.

I have simply reverted to status anté i.e the same exact way I was born, if you gonna feed me with shit be kind enough to provide evidence.
Unlike you noetic if no existing theory or hypothesis can be backed by undenible evidence as to the origin of our world i'm quite happy to sail through my journey on earth not knowing instead of believing by tactless "faith" which is just pure DELUSION.

You have this crazy and to be quite honest pitiful misconception that everyone must choose where to belong amongst the numerous "alternatives". . .didn't you do MCQ's in high school where option E is 'none of the above is correct'
If option A-D cannot be proven or substantiated then option E is the obvious answer.
And to me personally i choose option E, AKA Atheism.

What an embarrassment. . .  ,  what EXACTLY is the intended purpose of the ridiculous story above?  

a. where is ur scientific evidence to prove the non-existence of God?

b. where is ur intellectual evidence to prove the non-existence of God?

c. what is the rationality of a belief/disbelief system that equally relies on faith to  make sense? whats the basis of atheism?

d. Dont u consider urself ignorantly deluded? are u not disturbed by ur moral debauchery and inability to intellectually proclaim and analyse ur atheistic beliefs?

e. Tell me why EXACTLY anyone should be an atheist?

f. Is atheism justifiable in lieu of the inherent crimes and moral debauchery  easily linked to atheism? is atheism justifiable considering that u cannot scentifically, intellectually or logical make any meaningful claims to buttress ur beliefs?

h. How would u explain the atheistic concept to an educated, rational and intelligent person?

i. How do u feel being so deluded and misinformed?

He Who knows not and does not know that he knows not is a DELUDED CHRISTIAN.

he who lives in denial, ignorance, delusion, undiluted hypocrisy, naivety, illiteracy and still has the effrontery to call himself a free thinker but knows not is a DELUDED ATHEIST.

manmustwac:
If God did create everything why did he forget to create the dinosaurs

is there any reason to believe that God did not create dinosaurs?

ewa agoyin

my what? how have u been SL. . .wats good?




u became invisible

mukina2:
Then what is this thread doing in this section?

when did olabowale stop being a muslim?

No other muslim (trolls) is invited. . . . , simple.

Hi olabs,

For the sake of this thread, u will be the tutor and I the student.
I just want to understand the rationality in islamic killings as endorsed by allah and mohammed.
So tell me. . . . .what do u think about allah's commandments for muslims to kill?. . . . .is it ok to kill for allah?




I want original analysis. . . no copy paste or long stories please.

PS: No other muslim is invited except olabowale.
All other non-muslims are however invited to ask olabs questions about killings in islam.

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reason. . . .hez a home boy

Nairalanders have seen the ridiculously unsuccessful attempts by the aforementioned to discredit the bible and creationism. Over and over their delusive IGNORANCE has been repeatedly revealed on this forum. It is however time to put their beliefs under the same microscopic analysis.

This thread now invites Toneyb, Mazaje and Tudor to freely come and ejaculate their ignorance.
They are to . . .

a. produce an alternative to creationism. If God did not create everything. .  .how EXACTLY did all things come into existence.

b. If the bible is the work of deluded and barbaric men. . . .what EXACTLY is the alternative?

c. what is the rationality of their beliefs (atheism) ? where is ur scientific evidence that suggests that God does not Exist?

For once in ur nairaland lives. . . . .come here and talk sense. "I dont know" is not allowed

do u live on another planet?