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Ogaga4Luv:
[b]No one is perfect until you fall in love with them,[/b]we are bird's of the same feather,but let's based on our topic ,if i start posting we shall keep on arguring over  here and over there .

have u ever considered loving Jesus just as He loves u?

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wirinet:
It is not possible for anyone to physically witness the first process of evolution, because it happened billions of years ago, before even the first single celled organism was formed, and most important of all, the conditions necessary to trigger the process is not longer available.

a. If physical observation is impossible. . . what form of observation suggests that the first evolution process EVER took place?

b. what were the substances involved in this first evolution that took place?

c. Since according to you, the first evolution process took place before the first single celled organism was formed. . . .how could non-living substances produce these pioneer organisms? how could non-living substances produce life (organisms)?

Yes organisms evolve during my life time, but most of them are not noticeable because of the very short life span of humans compared to the time span needed to see visible changes, which is sometimes tens of thousands of years.
Although it is possible to see evolution taking place in simple small short lived plants and insects and also simple unicellular  plants and animals.

a. by "not noticeable", do u mean invisible and unseen and unknown processes?

b. where are the repeatable and verifiable scientific evidences that suggest that short lived plants and insects including plants and animals evolve?

The first DNA strand was formed by first the formation of simple amino acids from simple inorganic compounds in the atmosphere of the young earth, the amino acid underwent polymerization to form nucleic acids, one of the nucleic acid is DioxyboNucleic Acid (DNA), which is capable of self replication. Other nucleic acid polymerized to form proteins.

I just simplified the process to give you a general idea, the actual chemical process is very complex.

a. How was the simple amino acids formed?

Ogaga4Luv:
@Noetic2
I already read your heart thoughts on me but not really so ,you're right how you got my point's and really following up with the conversation.,but honestly saying Jesus is nothing but just an Ordinary human being ,and has been a death for many years till this very day.i never try to create any room to attack christ followers in any form but only want the whole madness to stop!,believing on a superficial God,which are poor imaginary?.
  You ask a good question here and i really show great interest on it,but im considering your own believe?,like in most of my threads on the religions section of the forum i always state how im from christian background but after i study the bible it comes to my understanding how 90% of the written are false,and in all it has led the human race astray,in what i describe as"NO WHERE" situation .,a book causing much confussion with all the many many strange fake storie.
Im not here to choose the way to follow for you,i never try and convert anyone into my lifestyle .i know there is no God!,the only God is "Me"-Satan the world changer and controller everything.

I get ur point. . . .u are the satan that u worship. . .cool.

but why not answer my question. . .if Jesus is a fake, who is the original?. . . .u?

u can ask questions about my beliefs.

toneyb:
1. According to Ex 3:8, the Israelites will live in a large land, flowing with milk and honey, and according to 2Sa 7:10, the biblegod said that he will provide a place for them and they[b] will not be disturbed anymore[/b], but as a matter of historical fact Israel (and vicinity) has been a relatively small and mostly barren land, and the Israelites have been continually harassed from all sides up till today.

The prophecy in question was fulfilled, up until the time and demise of Joshua. subsequent events in israel that led to their captivity and enslavement and dismemberment from israel was subsequently prophesied.

So literally analyses of that prophecy suggests that it is a fulfilled prophecy.

2. Many verses prophesy that the throne of David will endure forever and that there will never be a time without a man upon that throne. But in point of historical fact, the Davidic line of kings ended with Zedekiah. 450 yrs. later, the Maccabeans had a brief reign. But for 2000 years, there has been no Davidic king.

ever heard of King Jesus?

When the bible says a "king from the lineage of David, for ever and ever". . ,  . it was not just referring to this world, but also the world to come. All hail King Jesus.

3. According to Isa 14:23, Babylon will become a swapland, but that never happened. According to Jer 51:36, Babylon will become totally dry, but that never happened either. According to other verses, Babylon will never be inhabited by people again and the biblegod said that he will completely cut of Babylon, her name and survivors, but in fact Babylon has been continually inhabited by people since that time. It is now part of Iraq.

was a time specified for the fulfilment of this prophecy? No.

4. According to Isa 17:1, Damascus will be destroyed, but in fact Damascus is one of the few ancient cities that has never been destroyed. [The fact that so many were destroyed makes prophecies of the future destruction of ancient cities rather unremarkable.] If Isaiah had predicted that Damascus would never be destroyed, then that would have been remarkable.

see answer 3.

5. According to Isa 19:5, Eze 30:12, and Zec 10:11, the Nile River will dry up, and according to Eze 29:9-12, Egypt will become desolate for 40 years, with no man or animal passing through it and with all Egyptians dispersed, but as a matter of fact the Nile River has never dried up and in the whole history of Egypt no such calamitous events have ever occurred.

Also see answer three.

There are prophecies awaiting fulfilment. There is no reason to suggest that they would not be fulfilled.

6. According to Isa 19:18, five Egyptian cities will speak the language of Canaan, but linguists and archeologists assure us that no Egyptian cities have ever spoken the language of Canaan.

The same way scientists told us that the earth was flat. .  , and we later found out that it is round, just like the bible stated.
This is what isaiah 19:8 says
18 In that day five cities in Egypt will speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to the LORD Almighty. One of them will be called the City of Destruction.

So if u can tell me when that day is. . .perhaps I'd know if the prophecy has been fulfilled or not.

7. According to Isa 34:9-10, Edom (the land between the Dead Sea and Gulf of Aqaba) will become burning pitch forever: no one will ever pass through it again because It's fire will not be quenched night and day; its smoke will rise forever. From generation to generation. But in truth that has never happened to Edom. People have passed through it for thousands of years up till today.

see answer 3.

8. According to Isa 52:1, the uncircumcised and unclean will never enter Jerusalem again, but in fact such people have continually entered Jerusalem for thousands of years.

The very known jerusalem or the new Jerusalem? there is a difference between the two. .  .so which of them do u think that the prophecy was referring to?

Isaiah 52:1
1 Awake, awake, O Zion,
       clothe yourself with strength.
       Put on your garments of splendor,
       O Jerusalem, the holy city.
       The uncircumcised and defiled
       will not enter you again.

Neither Zion nor Jerusalem as stated above refers to the ones we know as of today.

9. According to Jer 42:17, Jews who choose to live in Egypt will all die and leave no remnant. But history shows that Jews continued to live there for centuries, later establishing a cultural centre at Alexandria.

Egypt denotes sorcery, divination and occultism in prophecy. Many times the original Egypt is not the subject of the prophecy. Thats the case of Jer 42:17

10. Zep 3:13 prophesied that the remnant of Israel will not sin or lie or be afraid, but in truth they were never so moral nor so fearless.

see answer 8

11. There are other false historical prophecies in the book of daniel that never took place councering certain people that lived and died like  Nebuchadnezzar and Jehoiakim.

why not list them?

So far when you look at the historical predictions or prophecies written in the bible about certain places and certain people that can be traced they all appear to be false they mostly never happened.

I dont know all the prophecies in the bible. . . . .but I do know that prophetic interpretations is usually a function of hindsight spiritual revelation or just from ur world view. The latter explains ur understanding of the prophecies.

None of the prophecies listed above can be classified as unfulfilled.

wirinet:
Evolution cannot end because physical conditions such as climate, altitude and water on earth is not static and is not the same the world over. So evolution must continue to make sure that organism adapt to their peculiar environment.

From the above, it is safe to assume two things.
a. you witnessed the very first process of evolution. do u mind describing it? and also defining the chemical compositions.
b. you have recently seen an organism evolve. what organism has evolved during ur life time, with repeatable and verifiable evidences?

Biological Evolution started the day a DNA stand was formed and started replicating itself.

how was this DNA stand formed?

Ogaga4Luv:
@ tubabie
    I see nothing wrong with my first post?"Thread" and i hopefully need you to put me through why and why it doesn't made sense,"Full of pity"- i know this can change to sudden argurment later on ,but please. .i have no idea about your contribution for now,yeah- come to think twice you don't you dont know how to go along with the Sincerity on this thread,you have freewill to what you believe,i didn't force anybody to follow me,the choice is yours and really wish you be in the true path.
I proves you wrong for so many confirmed reason's,and i guest you know you're 100% wrong .,you have to be serious  my dear.i know you're a christian that's why your reaction always go against "honesty"- you're taking to be dishonesty.

Still waiting 4 better contribution. . . .

by ur OP u insinuate that Jesus is a fake, masquerading as saviour.
If Jesus is a fake. . . who then is the original?

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a. what does "come" mean?

b. what does "quickly" mean?

toneyb:
OK I will open a new thread so that we can deal with that.

I try to be as objective as I can be In fact that was what made me leave christianity. I can't kill anybody for my point of view. I only state my position and leave, If you insult me then I return fire for fire. I always try to keep an open mind at leat all the time, sometimes I am baised most time I try not to be.

how did objectivity make u leave christianity?

tubabie:
Being objective on the religion thread is very hard.For religious beings they believe its the core of existence.
Most people place so much importance on their beliefs and are not prepared to be accommodating but would prefer to foist their "way" on others.
On another hand being objective doesnt have to mean encouraging ill put forward views or beliefs. it doesnt stop one from demanding logical explanations. That said on a scale of 1 to 10 , i would give myself 7.

I would not terrorise nor kill for my God, He is more than able to take care of himself and His own.

Good to know that. . . . .and very well said.

you are supposed to make assertions that proclaim the bible as false. . . .AND. . . .to prove ur assertions.

This should not be questions for noetic. . .it should be called. . .analysis from toneyb. . . . .so, Go on I am all ears.

seyenko:
Evolution has not beginning or end has long has there is a dynamic interaction between the biosphere and the atmosphere. Don't get it wrong i am not an atheist but a Christian. The bible and science are simply looking at same issue from different perspective, the distinguishing factor lies in the relativity of time. while the bible says the world was made in 7 days and science believes over a very long time, we must remember that God does not measure time by the standards of man. While man believes a day occurs after the earth has spun round the sun in 24 hours, we cannot say that God measures his time on that same scale. A day to God might be the spin of our solar system around the the milky way or the milky way around an entity larger that a galaxy. What do you think?

u did not answer my questions. . . .

why cant evolution end?
and when and how did evolution start?

toneyb:
I say that there are so many contradictions in the bible and stories that do not add up and I can defend that claim using the bible.

why are u trying to derail the thread.

you have made this false claim over a million times. . . and CANNOT prove ur alleged assertions. . . .why not open a thread to address ur "concerns"

Back to the thread. . .how objective are u?

Whats the height of expression u can hear about ur sacred beliefs before u go ballistic?

a. There are several islamic threads where posts are deleted, non muslims commentators are banned and entire threads deleted or blocked. This is simply because some one cannot bear the contents that establish that allah is a moon-god or mohammed is a false prophet, paedophilia et all. Many muslims have issued threats on this forum to other forumites, simply for disagreeing with their view point.

b. Several times many christians resort to name calling if and when unprovable theories about Jesus or the bible are stated on this forum. Never mind that the propagators of this theories cannot explicitly state or defend their claims. . .certain christian commentators end up issuing threats.

c. Many atheists on this forum have repeatedly resorted to name calling and use of foul language, whenever the rationality of their beliefs are questioned. We have seen several atheists make a fool of themselves when ever their beliefs is placed under the analysis of a microscope.

Are you an objective person? how objective are u?

would u kill and terrorise for ur god, God, belief, religion and view point?

handsome and calm.

Thor:
Evolution can never end

a. why cant it end?

b. when did it start and how?

if he be grl. . . .then yup.

cool dude.