₦airaland Forum

kenomobola:
I fully agree with you. How can you place a fox in charge of a hen house? I am tired of hearing of people stealing billions, how did they have access to such money? Through a deliberately compromised system. How about we make it nearly impossible to have access to such humongous amounts? How about we make it such that, if anyone scale all the hurdles and eventually steal from our Commonwealth, such a one will book a one way ticket to the afterlife.
People think what Lee Kwan Yew did in Singapore was child's play, I laugh. The west labeled him as a dictator, an authoritarian, and so many other demeaning names. Is Singapore not better off now? Do people think he just came, and people fell in line? No, it took decades.
Is every Rwandan happy with Paul Kagame in Rwanda? No. In Paul Kagame's vision, Rwanda is more important than any single Rwandan. When Rwanda was engulfed in a genocide, nobody cared, they were left to kill themselves. Rwanda has learnt its lessons, have we?

Ahh my brother tell am...

kenomobola:
What you have said is true, however, why do the same Nigerians ,travel out of the country and; stay in a queue, drive like sane people, obey laws? The answer? Laws and consequences. Even our so called smaller neighbors are more law abiding than we are.
Have you noticed that expatriates who come to Nigeria are not exempted from shameful behavior on our soil? When they get here, they are usually possessed by the spirit of lawlessness. Why? Because there are no consequences. Guess who is responsible for upholding the law? You know who. When law makers and enforcers become law breakers, what do you think will happen in such a society? Anarchy, chaos.

Bros couldnt have said it any better..

Further to that point a good leader would surround himself with good men so he can implement his vision for the country.

You think all Japanese agreed with Emperor Meiji's reforms? The Samurai in particular were very much against his plans which greatly diminished their status in Japan..(they were the highest military caste that dominated Edo Japan for 600 years).

Meiji bribed some of the Samurai with companies (which exist till today) and had to fight the rest who rebelled against him militarily. The film 'The Last Samurai' covers the rebellion of those samurai..

Finally on laws, if I was leader I could kill corruption dead by warning that if you misappropriate a certain amount (say over 50,000 USD) then instant Death Penalty. It would be extreme but it would work, especially if enforced.. If a few Babas lost their heads, people would soon respect the rule of law again..

In Dubai and Singapore penalties for crime are severe, those cities are relatively crime free. One of my friends rearing his children in Singapore lamented his children would be easy pickings outside in the real world as they have no appreciation of criminality!! Can you imagine!!!!

So terrorism pays huh?

9jaRealist:
Granted that Nigerian governments should be building better roads (and Lagos probably does the 'best' job of it)...
But I have personally been to several other African countries with open gutters/drains and sadly have NOT witnessed this level of filth!

Even in Kigali, which is probably the cleanest African city and among the cleanest capitals in the developing world, there are still several streets with open drains/gutters (albeit the government is doing a commendable job of aggressively upgrading road infrastructure including covered sidewalks), such as the streets and areas around Nyabugogo Marche Market, but you will NEVER EVER see them littering those drains as is seen in the unfortunate pictures here. So, yes, the CITIZENS have to take a certain amount of responsibility (and ownership) for this mess.

This comes down to education and responsibility for that lies with (drum roll) government.

Excluding some far sighted leaders in the past like the great Lateef Jakende who built a great number of primary schools. Education for the masses from 5-18 has been neglected by local state governments across the nation.

If we had a decent public education system, instilling civic values/duty like they do in Japan it would be easy. In Japan all school cleaning is carried out by the students to teach them the values of cleanliness, the children learn to enjoy it.

You cannot condemn a population for its behaviours if it has never been educated. Most of the folks arguing here have probably had a private education, that should be a rarity not the norm if the government did it’s job..

9jaRealist:
Respectfully disagree...

There can be NO sustainable change without the citizenry taking ownership of same.

Meanwhile, you could hardly put up even a lamp post in New York without a local community hearing.

I already covered this issue by explaining that nations like China, Japan, UAE and Korea all developed when they weren’t democracies (in short ordinary folks had ZERO INPUT)...

I assure you the bad behaviour you somehow believe is endemic only to Nigeria, I have observed in Asia. Ask a Hong Kong native about mainland Chinese, their response would probably make you think they are racist were they not the same people.

Mainland Chinese have been caught on Camera (see youtube) urinating in the streets, barging in when queues and a whole host of other bad behaviours. Has that hindered their development? No because power over development rests in the hands of the Chinese government not its ordinary people.

Rossikk:
Dude, there's no ''but'' but'' ''but'' in this......if traders block the sidewalks, it is the state govt's job to clear them away, or fine them.

It is no reason not to build covered drains and sidewalks.

Why are you people content to live like animals, giving all sorts of stupid excuses?

Those open drains, do you realise they are very dangerous to the health, apart from being eyesores?

I just don't get how you people reason.

Especially when there are floods in the rainy season. I recall a youtube video from Lagos where a trader said all of his fruit were submerged during the rainy season, he then dried them and continued to sell them..

Rossikk:
We need a NATIONAL STANDARD for all urban roads whereby all roads without covered drains and sidewalks will be deemed UNCOMPLETED PROJECTS, with resources made available to complete them incrementally, and all future roads built without such provisions will render the contractors liable to IMPRISONMENT. Within 5 years of passing this law, our urban centres will be transformed in this country.

From Russia to the UK, they have national standards on road design, signage and even things like minimum room sizes for personal dwellings..

That level of organisation is need in Naija

kenomobola:
Thank you for this. Most Nigerians are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, they're in love with their oppressors. What is happening in Lagos state is a reflection of what happens in Nigeria as a whole.
There is some subtle brainwashing being perpetrated in Lagos. If you listen carefully to Lagos state government ads, they never take responsibility for anything. It's always the citizens; blocked drainages, insecurity, land speculators, collapsed buildings, etc.
For those who claim the government is broke, answer these questions:
1. Why are serving governors and retired governors getting stupendous amounts of money.
2. What is the government (at all tiers) doing with all the taxes and revenue they generate, including the huge amounts generated from VAT (which everyone pays).
3. Why are members of the national assembly having bogus salaries and allowances.
4. Anytime government officials go out of the country, why are there too many people on the entourage.

The day we start telling ourselves the truth, we will start making progress.

Couldn’t agree more

The debate has to change. Change comes from the top down, never the other way around.

You may get mass movements agitating for something, but it only happened if those at the top went along with it.

The leadership in Nigeria is sadly very self serving, not one after all their travels has sought to bring back the innovations they have seen.

When you ride on a bullet train in Asia or see a well developed city like New York, you wonder why we haven’t done the same in Naija?

Rossikk:
Nigeria HAS progressed considerably in the last 60 years. At independence we we had no power stations, expressways, or universities, and there was mass illiteracy, poverty and malnutrition. We have come a long way since then, even though we still have a long way to go.



Blaming the citizens for the government's failure to build proper roads is madness.

Are you the same Rossikk of skyscrapercity? I read the Eko Atlantic posts from time to time..

AlhajaChinyere:
Oga!! so you are supporting bad CITIZENS dirtying our environment like this.....because the government can only afford underground sewage?

So we should continue with this behaviour abi?

Na war oooo!

The problem lies with Nigerians who foolishly accept the status quo. But ultimately government is to blame..

I have addressed this foolish viewpoint elsewhere, so I will just post what I have said previously

I agree that Nigerians are partly responsible for their choice of leaders.

I have studied the rise of other nations, particularly non white ones. A good proportion developed significantly without democracy Japan, Korea, China and UAE.

The people had no influence on their choice of leaders. Great men stepped up and pulled their populations forward.

In the case of Japan Meiji Emperor (period Meiji Restoration)

In the case of Korea Park Jung-Hee Military Dictator (Period Miracle on the Han)

In the case of China Deng Xiaopeng Dictator (Period Four Modernisations)

In the case of UAE Sheik Al Maktoum Monarch

You have other examples in the guise of Lee Kuan Yew who pretty much ruled Singapore from independence up to the present taking it from developing to developed in ONE GENERATION (hardly a great example of ever changing party based democracy)

In Nigeria's case since independence not one leader has proven capable of governing the nation and propelling it to first world status. As I have shown you, the will of the people is often IRRELEVANT. What matters is the competence of the leadership at a National Level. Nigeria's leadership has shown to have been lacking..

People do not make big decisions on things like power and water drainage, their leaders do. Nigerian leaders have been at fault everytime.

Mrkumareze:
open drainage system is the best for now, we don't use sealed drainage when we are yet to get all our roads tarred ....we just need to do constant sanitation and reduce the number of stores in irrelevant places

Proof that Nigerians themselves are the problem. No developed city has open Sewers.

Really I had no idea sherlock...

Tell us something we dont know..

ThinkWISELY:
Saudi wey dem dey slice person head like onions for drug related crimes.

You tell them..

You live up to your name.. Sadly some people dont think wisely

armadeo:
Engage my brain he says.

A government is representative of its people. So stop blaming the government they are a reflection of us as a people.

Bye.














slowpoke

Why change my quote? When it was you foolishly defending the racist foreigner

I said “Well then you are a fool. An Indian man shameless calls our people Niggerians and you accept it.. Clown”

Also read my post on the development of non white nations and how many did it without democracy or people even choosing their leaders.

Since you cannot debate, you start being childish. Bros go sit down and shut up..

Mumu

Ugosample:
I travel across Africa

so I see for myself

I am currently in Senegal, to leave this weekend

Ahh Within Africa poverty and lack of education is the reason.. Show me a poor person and you will see illogical decisions..

Even in newly industrialised nations in Asia, you will see people betray their poor origins doing the stupidest of things..

Cleaners washing electric lights that were on with a wet mop in Thailand being one of my favourites..

Ugosample:
I have even had Indians say to me, "You are a smart black, but you have to admit a lot of blacks are really dumb" as joke.. They werent joking they believe it..



I've been told this before too.
And even tho it sounds stupid

I will not blame them 100 %

Black folks in general DO NOT conduct themselves as intelligent people.
there is no smoke without fire.

that's the truth

we might be intelligent, but the intelligent ones are outliers
A cursory examination of the African society will show you that

My brother you know better than this "Black folks in general DO NOT conduct themselves as intelligent people."

Take the media in London, currently London has a knife crime epidemic. The media happily portrays this as a black issue.

I looked at the data, less than 45% of all stabbings involved a black person in London. Even if you take into account overrepresentation it still represents less than 1% of the overall London black population.

Also looking at overall violent crime data since 2011 to 2019, it has been falling steadily. But if you picked up a London newspaper you would think black people have lost their minds and are part of rising violent crime epidemic.

Don't let the media, especially the western one play you..

Even the England Riots which were commonly portrayed as a black riot. The trigger the death of Mark Duggan was actually mixed race man, half white and half black. His mother who campaigned against his death is whiter than snow.

But it gets better, after some detailed analysis it was found that the racial makeup of the rioters was 50% white and 50% black..

The western media play games, you should get wiser to them..

9jaRealist:
Rather rich considering that millions of Nigerians reside in and earn a livelihood all across the world...
Reportedly transferring about US$25 billion back to Nigeria as remittances every year helping to keep Nigeria economically stable.

Anyway, you just seem unable to grasp the point that I am making so I will not unnecessarily belabor same...
I do NOT care about people’s racist or tribalist belief (it would great if these did not exist), but rather for equal protection under the law.

Ahh this is where I will tread carefully as I make this point. But you are a bit naïve and ignorant as to how elites in other nations function.

I had the good fortune of attending the same school as the children of the European political and economic elite (children of prime ministers and heirs to multi billion dollar fortunes). I am not saying this to brag, what is more important are socio economic trajectories we all had after university.

Bar my skin colour I was the same as my white peers and I was often smarter than them. As were some other Naija boys who attended the same school with me.

But interestingly when it came to jobs, the difference in how we were treated was clear. My white peers were employed faster with or without connections. They were given promotions faster and generally were favoured over us Naija heritage boys.

Please bear in mind, we often had stronger CVs than they did

In short Oyinbo favour their own, regardless of legislation etc. I have spoken to others raised in Asia who were white and they said they suffered the same thing at the hands of the Japanese for example.

I explained it to you previously and you wished to gloss over this point. Like I said and I will repeat at board meetings at top investment banks or hedge funds I have often been the ONLY BLACK FACE THERE. Bear in mind that in London the population is nearly 45 percent non white. I assure you this isn't by accident it is by DESIGN!!

You may wish to blindly follow your utopian ideals as I once did. But the cognitive dissonance for me became too much to bear. Thus I say again with a heavy heart, I feel that Nigeria should favour it's native born population first, then foreigners second.

Also the huge sums of remittances from the diaspora is a testament to the tenacity/hardwork of these Nigerians abroad in the face of heavy racism and prejudice they face.

I have lost friends to white racists who stabbed friends simply because they were black, I don't think I have ever heard of Naija folks killing an Oyinbo because he was simply white?? (they may have accidently done it as part of a kidnapping attempt for financial gain) You need to wake up

I could even talk about how right wing political activity is stoked by so called moderate mainstream politicians in the west. You seem a tad naive.. The west makes sure the playing field is far from level and they favour their own!!

9jaRealist:
BTW, I do NOT agree with the highlighted...
Nigeria’s condition is ultimately a culmination of the collective conduct (by commission or omission) of ALL Nigerians.

I agree that Nigerians are partly responsible for their choice of leaders.

I have studied the rise of other nations, particularly non white ones. A good proportion developed significantly without democracy Japan, Korea, China and UAE.

The people had no influence on their choice of leaders. Great men stepped up and pulled their populations forward.

In the case of Japan Meiji Emperor (period Meiji Restoration)

In the case of Korea Park Jung-Hee Military Dictator (Period Miracle on the Han)

In the case of China Deng Xiaopeng Dictator (Period Four Modernisations)

In the case of UAE Sheik Al Maktoum Monarch

You have other examples in the guise of Lee Kuan Yew who pretty much ruled Singapore from independence up to the present taking it from developing to developed in ONE GENERATION (hardly a great example of ever changing party based democracy)

In Nigeria's case since independence not one leader has proven capable of governing the nation and propelling it to first world status. As I have shown you, the will of the people is often IRRELEVANT. What matters is the competence of the leadership at a National Level. Nigeria's leadership has shown to have been lacking..

Say what you like about Igbos, but they were obviously correct in their assessment that post independence Northern leaders who ultimately have come to lead this nation for the majority of its existence since independence were severely lacking in ability and capability to run this nation.

As I said this is not due to some inherent inferiority but due to the cultural norms in the North. Till today Northerners have an atavistic tendency that leans towards their own historical practices over external ideas. This has resulted in them have less progressive and meritocratic values. This failing has impacted not only the North, but Nigeria as a whole...

For example look at the use of Ajami script by the Hausa and Fulani. It is still largely in use for liturgical reasons in Mosques and is still used for Islamic Instruction. While that is admirable, there are many Northerners who are more proficient in that script over the Latin alphabet which is of more economic value. Contrast the maintenance of Ajami script in the North with use Ajami script by Yoruba (which was documented by British Colonials). The Yoruba have abandoned it completely and only a few people like me who have interest in it are even aware of its' existence...

I await your response... Or you will simply duck this point altogether as you have done previously

9jaRealist:
BTW, Nigeria is NOT doing foreign investors any favors.

It is a symbiotic relationship pursuant to which they bring in funds, create jobs and employ Nigerians in return for which they make (or expect to make) profits for their investment. It is for Nigeria to ensure that these relationships work well for Nigeria and Nigerians by legislating and implementing the best possible safety and labor relationship standards - and such standards should exist for EVERY employment relationship in Nigeria, regardless of the nationality of the employer (Nigerian or otherwise). Nigerian employers should NEVER be granted leeway and.or permission to exploit other Nigerians in a manner that we would be appalled (or not allow) if the employer was a foreigner.

I like you, unlike the other poster you make decent points..

I agree there is some symbiotic relationship and no nation can develop in a vacuum.

"It is for Nigeria to ensure that these relationships work well for Nigeria and Nigerians by legislating and implementing the best possible safety and labor relationship standards" We are not in disagreement hence my emirati example and I have said as such multiple times

Nigerian employers should NEVER be granted leeway and.or permission to exploit other Nigerians in a manner that we would be appalled (or not allow) if the employer was a foreigner This is a strawman argument, I have never argued for differing standards for Nigerian employers versus foreign employers.

What I have said, which you seem unwilling to accept is that a racist Indian would treat his workers very differently to a native Nigerian who simply feels he is better than his subordinates by virtue of class.

A wealthy native boss may mistreat his fellow native workers, by contrast a racist boss of different ethnicity to his workers at the extreme end of the spectrum is likely to KILL THEM!! (This behaviour has been seen in the Americas and the Middle East re migrant workers). That is a huge difference that you fail to understand or refuse to acknowledge..

Jaqenhghar:
Keep yapping and calling my name. This issue is bigger than me, its bigger than you and your father's oil company. If hurling insults will make you feel better pls continue

Then answer my questions and stop being a coward. What are you?

Ordinary Nigerians are not to blame for their predicament, it is Nigerian leaders that have failed them. Do you agree??

As for the issue being bigger than me, of course I know that. That is why push for reforming Nigeria, not its breakup as Nigeria will be the lodestar for Africa.

Most Nigerians year think money will bring them happiness it doesn’t. If you are fortunate enough to travel and mix in elite circles, you realise how few black faces sit at the top table. How few of us actually sit across from others as equals. That’s why I rail against the mistreatment of my people. Unlike you who denigrate them and blame them for their failures.

I maybe smart and have a bit of cash in my pocket, but regardless of my hard work, luck played a huge role (family etc). I am no better than any Lagos area boy or poor street urchin. They are victims of Nigeria’s failures..

I checked out your profile, I was surprised you had a picture of brother Malcolm of all people. You are one confused foreigner and you call our people and me a Nigger. Hilarious..

Gtfo...

9jaRealist:
Many Brits, Europeans, and Americans (among others) in the UK, the EU and the US similarly believe that they are inherently racially superior to black people. The law is the only thing that stops them from overtly (or overly) mistreating their black employees. We cannot regulate the thoughts of individual human beings but we can surely regulate their ACTIONS!

PS: And just btw, if you do not know that there are Nigerians who think that they (or their ethnic groups) are genetically inherently superior to other Nigerians, then I am afraid that you have NOT been on Nairaland long enough - or just have not been paying attention.

I agree with you on the need for legislation, I have said as much in other posts.

On whites thinking they are superior or having racial bias I have experienced that first hand. From guys assuming I cant code to folks addressing subordinates in a meeting only to be politely informed that I a black man is the boss..

Legislation can only achieve so much. As blacks and asians suffer higher unemployment and lower wages in the UK and US even when they are better educated. In shoet whites favour their own even when laws are in place and the black person has more skills than his peers..

Likewise I am sorry to say we should do the same. Nigeria is and should be for Nigerians. As the US and UK are for Europeans in the main..

So I will not accept some foreign bastard like Jaqenhghar coming on a Naija forum and saying ordinary Nigerians are the problem and that we are Niggers..

As for Nigerians thinking they are racially superior to others, I am saddened by this. I personally have never seen it.

If you are talking about tribalism that is a different thing. I not against saying some groups like Igbo have more progressive, democratic and meritocratic values than say Hausa. But I think that is down to culture not some inherent racial superiority. I say this as a man who is half Yoruba and Igbo.

But if a man says he his tribe is superior to another just because, I will quickly tell him to shut up..

9jaRealist:
My examples has as much to do with “class” as does the original story...
In other words, about the only relevance to class herein are the employer class and the employee class.

If we legislate and implement adequate safety standards and good working from ALL NIGERIA-BASED EMPLOYERS, the race or purported class (unless you think that only poor Nigerians are employed in Nigeria companies) becomes 100% IRRELEVANT. I am not inclined to “identity” policy (or politics on NL), but when one actually thinks about it is even more disgusting/despicable when we treat our own as subhuman.

I have relatives in Ikoyi who do treat their workers badly. But they dont think they are racially superior, I assure you a lot of Indians DO!!!

I have even had Indians say to me, "You are a smart black, but you have to admit a lot of blacks are really dumb" as joke.. They werent joking they believe it..

The problem is that blacks dont identify with each other. I assure you whites do, asians and everybody else..

Just look at the rise of Trump or Brexit in Britain
...

Jaqenhghar:
Ill call them what ever I want. And you my friend are the dumbest nigger of them all. I dont have to answer shít to you. You should thank God if not for your father's money I can only imagine the kind of life you will be living...maybe you will be one of them doing time in the steel factory and eating the Indian man's ass

Get out of here Foreigner..

Nigerians be careful whose advice you listen to..

You were all heeding the advice of a foreigner who calls our people Niggers.

Let me be clear, I am not a racist. But I learnt in the west, when push comes to shove most groups side with their own even when they are in the wrong. I dont agree with that, but if thats they way others play I will side with my people every time.

Now get the F out of here and go mix amongst your own people..

Mtchew..

Jaqenhghar:
Speaking for who? So far all you have done is make it about yourself and that you are from a wealthy family. Typical Niggerian mentality of he has moneyso he is automatically smart. Wake me up when your name is mentioned on forbes or you establish a fortune 500 company on your own

I have obviously touched a nerve.

I am speaking up for Nigerians, the black people you shamelessly call Niggers.

I have made my point and you couldnt refute it. So you kept banging on about reading comprehension. So I will ask you again so the enforcement of labour and indigene laws lie with the government or ordinary Nigerians?

Also in a moribund economy can you blame desperate Nigerians for working for disreputable foreign employers?

You wont answer because you cant? As I said before, you are not Nigerian so shut it..

Jaqenhghar:
Like I said comprehension is something you cant teach and for a clown like you its something your father cant buy for you even if he had all the oil in Saudi Arabia. We are talking of a people collectively you are already talking about yourself. It somehow has to be about you. SMH

You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension. I have asked you repeatedly what are you?

The fact you wont answer proves you arent Nigerian. So stop trying to defend your foreign brethen and be quiet.

Dont you dare call our people Niggers again.. Mtchew.

9jaRealist:
But I am sure that you have heard stuff like “Nigerian boss/housewife pours scalding hot water on his Nigerian domestic staff” or “Fire at Nigerian Company in Nigeria kills Nigerian staff” or “Nigerian boss fails to pay his Nigerian staff for several months”. Our campaign should be for safety standards/good working conditions from ALL NIGERIA-BASED EMPLOYERS, rather than succumb to xenophobic instincts.

One wrong does not negate the other. Also the examples you cited are class based prejudice. Indians typically engage in RACE based prejudice and that is very different.

One can work hard and change their class as my grandfather did. One cannot change his or her race and only deluded blacks try...

armadeo:
I agree with what he says not who he is.

Yes I blame Nigerians for bad behaviour of foreigners. Truth be told if people are lining up to be flogged and you dont get on the line you wont be flogged.

If we as a nation not the government now Nigerian citizens refuse the jobs offered by these people unless they pay reasonable wages they will either pay or pack up but when you grovel for crumbs you tend to get kicked.

I read about how Nigerians collide with foreigners to the detriment of fellow Nigerians, I've seen it happen.

As for the insult I wont respond to that.

Well then you are a fool. An Indian man shameless calls our people Niggerians and you accept it.. Clown

Two people in poverty or in a desperate situation have to take such jobs. They are victims of the Nigerian system as much as any street urchin begging or Olosho working the street. The fact that you are too dumb to appreciate this says it all..

In all other countries as some other posters have pointed out this problem is corrected by government not by the people. Only they can enforce labour laws and throw our foreigners who flout them..The ordinary people can only withold their labour. But when you are starving what choice do you have..

Seriously engage your brain..

armadeo:
Yout two posts made me lol.

Read the guy you quoted carefully and see what hes talking about.

Blaming Nigerians for the bad behaviour of foreigners in this country.

Seems like you are as stupid as him.

You do realise that you are backing up an Indian poster..

Clown

BigBashiru:
It's best to keep financial status out of online forums as no one cares; I sense emptiness in your soul cos I recognize your type who boast ppl vandalize their cars in London etc to provide solace to their souls. You need Jesus Christ the Son of God to provide purpose to your soul.....its a free gift - received by grace thru faith once u confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus is the Son of God .... hopefully u can boast less in future having found a higher purpose.

Back to topic, Indians should all be sent packing to where they came from. They ruin Western countries with their toxic culture and they will ruin Nigeria too.

I don’t really care for religion, as Jesus was brought to our people down the barrel of a gun and Islam by the sword..

But we are agreed on Indians, those guilty of racism and colorism should be sent home... That was my main point..

Ugosample:
my father is a successful IGBO business man as well


so that one no be anything

It's a common thing where we come from

nobody is saying blacks are inferiorto anybody genetically or biologically


black folks have just decided to be stupid BY CHOICE

the day the black man CHOOSES to quit foolishness

That's when things will change

but for now, continue to live in denial
it's clear for all to see.

now we are talking. As long as you aren’t saying we are inferior then I with you.

you know every well the answer to the larger question of general Nigerian behaviour is complex. By and large Igbos understand the game and in truth so do a lot Yoruba. The political class is another matter.

But the real problem with the Nigeria in my opinion stems from the North. The problem has two causes, a northern leadership that is out of touch and genuinely doesnt care about its people. It also engages in tribalism which works to the benefit of no one, it has been a problem since Ahmedo Bello (infamous expatriates over Igbos speech). This had led to a weird love of foreign groups that you don’t even see in the south. Go to Kano and you will see a greater proportion of Lebanese running businesses and in truth the locals seem to like it. they have a weird fascination and respect for Arabs that I think is tied to religion. But this ties in to government as these same foreign groups will be given contracts that could easily be done by locals.

Two the population of the North has tipped the balance in Nigeria in the direction of bad choices. The recent elections are the best example, Sowore was my choice, the guy genuinely had good ideas and did his best to bridge the different groups in Nigeria. But the vote was tipped by the North. I don’t blame them out of spite or hatred. They have been let down the most by their leadership. They have been undereducated and thus make ignorant choices. That is why some of their lot sought salvation through religion and thus we had Boko haram.

The problem of lack of education, tied to a failure of meritocracy is slowly down south. Leading to more illogical voting even in the South. I have always said, Nnamdi Kanu correctly identified a lot problems with Nigeria. The problem was that his solution in my opinion was wrong. But many Igbos couldn’t see the nuance because of frustration and again lack of education.

Until the political class changes its ways, this problem will continue. Only they have the power to enforce workers rights and indigenes laws.

My brother I get enraged everytime I speak to a friend in the fishing trade, he tells me that the Chinese undercut everyone on fish prices. Why because they are trawling illegally across the west African coast. In short stealing fish stock worth billions. Nigeria is one of the few African nations with decent naval ships, why isn’t the government doing anything about this and at the same time building a native fishing fleet? again because they don’t care..

I may not answer in a while, because I really need to go lol

BigBashiru:
If you were a millionnaire like you claim, you would not be boasting on nairaland. And even uf you truly were a millionnaire, do you think i care? Boast to your children please. Sick Nigerians. You are displaying the Nigerian mentality once again. Sick foooolls

I am what I am, I peruse these threads in effort to bring some sanity to it. A forum should have all types on it to bring some sanity to the debate. It takes only a few minutes to post and hopefully my experience can bring some different viewpoints to this discussion.

Having money doesn’t preclude you from enjoying debate on an online forum. So what do you assume a wealthy man does? Simply rolls around in money if he isn’t working. You are the ignorant one not me..

Also some people here think I am some black power guy who can’t back up what he says. I am quite the opposite, show competence and skill first, then assert a position. Because I have bested foreigners in fair competition and got wealthy in the process, I am genuinely not afraid of them.

I could tell you stories how white men have vandalised my cars out of jealously in London. Or men who wanted to fight me because I was dating a hot native girl in Europe or Asia.. It’s hilarious..

Anyway, I have to go, will be back in a few hours...

Ugosample:
one of the black power mugus I was talking about @Jaqenhghar

How is being a multi millionaire who speaks up for his people being a black power mugu? Better to be rich and believe in myself and my race, than to be a black who would lick the balls of any foreigner who comes his way.

Also I back up my position, I have bested Jews, whites, Indians and Asians in fair competition. There is nothing superior about any of those groups.

I thank god I was born to a father and mother who made their money by their wits. My father was the main breadwinner and Igbo at that.. He taught me to work very hard and believe in myself. As a result I live the kind of lifestyle you only dream about..

Fool