₦airaland Forum

xynerise:
@The last picture

Is that not the Dead Savannah bank?

majamajic:
population really hit lagos, after independent.

see men riding bicycle on eko bridge, try it now

now we don finish !!!

opribo:
Youthfulness, Yes, but when we talk of youthfulness we must look for one who is not rebelious. Do you realise as a president one single wrong comment can set the nation on fire. Such is the calibre of Sowore. For me someone like prof Moghalu has all the ingredients to deliver this nation but he doesn't have the political Will to confront the various cabals in the military both serving and retired. That is why i am routing for Atiku. He is poised to make Nigeria great again. I hope he can incorporate that prof into his government.
Meanwhile, the satanic APC party is hell bent on rigging their way back into our Aso rock.

opribo:
I have watched many of his videos before I came to the conclusion that he is just set to attack any opponent with his toxic comments. He looks pained as if Nigeria has done something wrong to him.

The other time I watched him in some t.v. discussion with prof Kingsley Moghalu while the prof reeled out detailed actionable plan of his vision for Nigeria your Sowore agreed that the the prof's vision are in tandem with whatever manifesto he has which he could not read out.

Instead as usual he attacked the prof for saying that the minimum wage issue needs to be researched thoroughly before one can give a categorical answer as to what it should be.

This Sowore man meanwhile was playing to the gallery that it would be 100 thousand. That sounds childish and baseless. It is empty and unfounded promises like this that has landed us where we are. Intelligent and experienced people know it that running a government involves several decision making bodies.

If it were that easy for Bubu he would have bypassed the Senate and do as he likes just as he did as a military dictator.

Someone needs to school that man on how to be president. Attack the issues not persons.

opribo:
The man sounds temperamental, he thinks this is NANS. He goes about insulting and attacking personalities rather than issues. People like that are empty barrels.

They have never managed big corporations talkless of a nation
People like him want to use our country as experimental lab, no we don't want any more neophyte. We need experienced leaders who speak with facts and understand the issues not rabble rousers. In the first place from where did he come out from, no pedigree just out of the blues and he wants to be president of a whole Nigeria. He should go and gather experience first. He is a joker.

nwanyionitsha:
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.OUR MINDS ARE MADE UP.

nwanyionitsha:
Speak for yourself.
We are voting Atiku.

Auladimeji1:
After Election I don't want to hear "Biafra or Death"

dyangprof:
Hmmmm, Atiku the anointed president to be.

Though, Atiku is not a saint, but at this junction, he is the best candidate to lead naija again... So we just have to ATIKULATE ..

Duara must received back their incompetent product next year.

sluk:
Igbos do not know what they want at all. Their jealousy and beefing is on high grade. No wonder they are always flogged into the cue.

quickly:
nOT IN THIS COMPLEX WORLD OF IT & macro ECONOMY.

NAME 1 GOOD LEADER WITHOUT SOLID EDUCATION?

TayserMahiri:
The issue is in how you export them. Nigerian migration is tantamount to manslaughter. None of the countries you mention ever had their citizens so notoriously desperate like your migrants. Wherever they go they go illegally and cheating death is a major component of their escape. Your migrants are similar to migrants from the most impoverished parts of the world like Eritrea, Chad, Yemen and Syria which explains a lot about what we know is your problem. So nuhhh. You are trying to force your situation, which is dire btw, to match that of more dignified citizens from saner parts of the world.

kikuyu1:
Ok,nograv you insist. I posted this much earlier. Btw,the prof has a bio anyone would gladly kill for! Here's a short version of his bio:
[url]https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=11367759&privcapId=36767030&previousCapId=9759239&previousTitle=Olayan%20Financing%20Company%20W.L.L.[/url]

For those with the capacity to understand I bring you Dangoteland/Kenya as seen by country comparison.

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/nigeria/kenya?sc=XE87

Here are the salient facts supporting our hypothesis Kenya is so FARRRRRRR ahead it ain't even funny!

Expenditure Per Capita [+] 2016 207$ chart 395$ 2016 Expenditure Per Capita [+]

Gov. Health Exp. P.C. [+] 2014 30$ chart 47$ 2014 Gov. Health Exp. P.C. [+]

Defence Expenditure P.C. [+] 2016 9$ chart 19$ 2016 Defence Expenditure P.C.

Gov. Health Exp. P.C. [+] 2014 30$ chart 47$ 2014 Gov. Health Exp. P.C. [+]

Defence Expenditure P.C. [+] 2016 9$ chart 19$ 2016 Defence Expenditure P.C.

NMW [+] 2013 115.9 $ chart 158.4 $ 2012 NMW [+]

Human Capital Ranking [+] 2016 127º chart 102º 2016 Human Capital Ranking [+]

Vehicles / 1,000 people [+] 2015 20.70 chart 29.25 2015 Vehicles / 1,000 people [+]

HDI [+] 2015 0.527 chart 0.555 2015 HDI [+]

The last Logistics Performance Index had us 2nd behind only RSA.


Read more at: https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000207551/kenya-ranked-second-best-in-logistics-index

Btw,the LPI is composed strictly by logistics pros in the relevant countries to avoid 'cooking.' I also know we should've moved at least 2 or 3 places up since we operationalised the SGR last year. I concede though you beat us in terms of postal services.

theenchanter:
arguing with u is tantamount to debating with a statue.

rvp2018:
I see you are taking refuge is India & China - which were both poor countries but now very PROGRESSIVE.China has moved many of it's poor to prosperity in one generation.India is also doing great...Nigeria just overtook it to have largest number of absolutely poor people (about 80 million of Nigeria).

The Chinese used to arrive aboard good containers in US shores out of the same desperation sending Nigerians scampering all over the world including Kenya. Poor Nigeria are still arriving in leaky boats or body bags in Europe.

Having a large diaspora consisting purely of ECONOMIC REFUGEES - when you're not in war like Syria or Somalis or some religious or political persecution - is indication that Nigerian economic long COLLAPSED.

Just learn to face the truth. Trying to find refuge in history or romanticize economic refugees like you won't help you.

Nigeria stats are cooked. I wish you could read backward where we've debunked it. You can also use your Bloomerg terminal to read about stories of MNCS that rushed to Nigeria only to find POVERTY/COLLAPSE INFRASTRUCTURE/KIDNAPPING. If you want to call that savvy then you're clearly high on drugs.

kikuyu1:
AAARRGGHHH! Answer me this,genius:

-why is your UN HDI so low?

-why do we lead you on ALL CONSUMPTION INDICES cars per 1000,sugar/oil/cement per capita?

-why large MNCs burn their fingers targetting your middle class?

-why on average your government pay scales are a third of ours,ours soldiers,cops,teachers and docs get 3x yours?

Its not a quarrel. We covered this earlier with sources. Just explain. Thanks!

rvp2018:
WB/IMF/CIA/ name them - DO NOT produce national accounts - that is done for Nigeria by your crooked Stat Office Yemi Kale . For a long time Nigeria had not re-based - but WB/IMF could not just manufacture figures for Nigeria. When Nigeria finally re-based they took in the new figures. What IMF/WB massage is really the USD/PPP - but OFFICIAL NATIONAL ACCOUNTS - are accepted as given.

Many MNCS have rushed to invest in Nigeria after buying the cooked Yemi Kale stew but have 1-2yrs lost their shirts - Nigeria style. The latest is VW - who sold about 30 units of VW in NIGERIA the whole of 2017 in a country of 200M with supposedly 500B dollar economy.

Now you're all over. Nigeria are right now dying cross Mediterranean - they are all over the world - because their economy long collapsed. That is not sign of success but failure. Nearly all failed states have huge diaspora. In kenya during the 90s at height of Moi dictatorship - Kenyans move to abroad & certainly were more successfully than Nigerians despite their numbers. We fixed our country and the queues at US embassay long died.

Regarding TECH - Nairobi(Kenya) lead with South Africa - Nigeria only this year "caught" up thanks to 40m dollars for Andela - in other years it either been South Africa or Kenya leading in tech funding. We shall see if Nigeria will repeat it this year - or we are back to the default the last 10yrs - Kenya & South Africa.

kikuyu1:
Rvp20182 and I provided the proof! At most their GDP is 200 to 250 bn$,which btw is very very generous! Their pop is between 150 mn to 180 mn. Their REAL GDP per capita is between 1300 to 1400$!!
We really can't go over this again. The proof is terms of breakdown of their agriculture/manufacturing/tourism/ICT sectors etc etc was done recently. Basically,they hilariously inflate Nollywood and other hard to quantify sectors like mobile banking to unconsciously camouflage their underdeveloped economy.

kikuyu1:
Damn! Damn! Damn! Damn! We keep telling these guys learn to start from the bottom up-now look at the resources wasted!? 13 mn$ down the toilet! Btw,during a previous tomato disease outbreak guess who saved them?


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/24/tomato-ebola-nigeria-moths-staple-food-crops

Dangotelanders,recognise you're not special. Like all of us you must follow certain rules,primarily,you can't cut corners! If you acknowledge that you'll be humble enough to learn to start at the bottom. Only then will you get somewhere-until then continue spinning your wheels. We'll be here with the evidence.

NairobiWalker:
Why are you using figures of 2016 when we are in 2018? Don't you know Nigeria's GDP is decreasing while Kenya's is increasing at a high rate? In 2017,

Kenya GDP per capita - 1790
Nigeria GDP per capita - 1994

I've said here several times that your GDP per capita was almost 3 times ours in 2014 now they're almost equal. In the next two years we'll definitely be ahead of you.

A good percentage of your GDP is drawn from oil which ends up in foreign pockets of mining companies - reason why despite your slight advantage over us on GDP per capital, our civil servants earn more than your civil servants.

rvp2018:
We again have dealt with those issues - use the search function. I have worked with World Bank and they accept OFFICIAL figures from any government...

You're bringing the very basic things that were brought up in the first 100 pages and we debunked them completely. We have demonstrated with facts that Nigeria GDP is not only cooked - but over-cooked. Start with agriculture - shows us how your agriculture is BIGGER than Brazil.

You real GDP is not even equal to Algeria's 150B dollars.

I mean you've got 3 official exchange rates (gov one of 305 naira to dollar), Bank one (360 naira to dollar) plus black market rate for dollars (anything upto 450-500 naira for a dollar)- how do you even start the comparison.

Jonraid:
How is the wealth spread in Nigeria.What's the percentage of the poor people?Is it increasing or decreasing? Answer me with facts!

rvp2018:
Your GDP figures are cooked - over-cooked. I think you should read this thread backward.