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If is denied the chance to come back and play for eagles then  we ll is your boko haram that ll play for you,NONSENSE.

You are kidding right?,I'm glad that i ve read one or two comment you made in regard to the igbos in your home town are they different igbos then?ofcaurse you should know NAIRALAND isn't where to make healthy judgement,my point is that you must conclude where the igbos stand base on NAIRALAND,it's a place where no group like to take responsibility of anything at all except to claim credit for everything,and you know this so calm down dear.

emmatok:
HM,

Gobs fighting the Hausa.

Gobs figthing the Yoruba's.

Gobs fighting the Meddle-Belt.

SS telling Gobs to back-off GE.

The Gobs should tread carefully, because any tribe caught in the next Civil-War will severely punished.

Honestly i do not have problem with the revolution against a corrupt government,but i have big problems with those officers who did not carry out their assignment to eliminate any corrupt leaders in those days whether igbo or not.Anyone one who says the killings of igbos was due to the revolution in 1966 should please tell me if there was a revolution"coup d'etta" in the years before prior to 1966 where igbos were kill by the hausa/fulanis,also i like to know if there has been a revolution "coup d'etta" by the middle belterns or christians in the north of nigeria recently,so what would anyone claim is their excuses for blowing up churches packed with worshipers in the north,what is the sin that anyone would hold against a group of youth corpers serving in the north that they must be murdered,what sin have innocent people in a public viewing centre commited in the north to get blowing up,how many innocent hundreds of people of middle beltern origin were murdered and many more displaced or unaccounted for just few days ago by fulani herdsmen(boko haram in disguise and at work),and how many innocent and peaceful traders were blowing up just few days ago in kaduna? Very few NAIRALANDERS may say karma which i bitterly laugh at and reject,cos these things are nothing but sheer evil so we need to see them not as "karma", and we must not allow this devils to think they can use anyone or group any time they wish or pick on anyone or group any time they wish and get away with it.So until we start seeing one another as people presently suffering in the hands of a common enemy,and stop pretending it's none of our concern and start finding a way to work together,i'm afraid this Armageddon will only grow bigger and deadly,so the enemy must not be underestimated. WE ARE ALL IN IT.

Trust me if you knew how much i dislike the ignorance of people like that wily wily and co,you wouldn't believe it, and please mind you as i have realised going by the ways some people comment on here,not everyone presenting him/herself as igbo and throwing insults unnecessarily against yoruba or any other rigion is truly igbo,some can do it on here purposely to create trouble between igbo and others,though as long NL is concerned there are still some who you would wonder if they eat through their anus.

emmke:
@Relax, umm, no it's not Buji. It's miango. We share the same LGA with them anyway. Bassa LGA. And my man we do really appreciate the igbos in jos, trust me. But some on nl, well let's just leave it at that.

Not that way,honestly was this the best way that you could make your point, where is your diplomacy as our future premier or rep? Please dont let anger spoil things,people like that nagoma,namfav and alhj_harem sometimes you ignore them you know cos they are traps to make you look bad in the of our neighbours,and lets not fool ourselves everyone needs his/her neighbours,so must not deny them the chance to trust each other.Thank you and congrats to you in your new task at showing what a role model you ll become bros.

Onlytruth:
em. . oga nagoma
We are still waiting for you to bring the proof to the claim you made below:

Posted by: nagoma
I personally don't care much about any alliances with Middle-belt because I believe that Karma is still working. So please don't make a claim against us unless you have evidence to support your claims. The only rattle snakes I see are people who kill women and children for whatever reason.

Honestly just because they didnt understand what were letting themselves into, and were brainwashed to fight against the east in those years shouldn't make it right for anyone in 2011, to not becareful with the way he/she speaks and how long are we gonna put up with this and who wins in situations like this?the hausa/fulani ofcos as they are  well aware of our sense of reasoning, that their victims use were once their ally so outsiders wont come to their rescue,and so they can carry on with violence against anyone they have unfounded issues against any time they wish, that is not right at all.

Bros, i really appreciate the effort you are investing on this, also i'm in full support of anything which could bring some sort of understanding in dealing with our neighbours in a matured and respectful way (diplomacy).Also for us to be always economically verbal  to avoid falling into unnecessary trap,and these can only be achieved by a leadership that is aware the importance these at any level of daily life,however the timing and the title are what concerns me a little bit.     Will it not gonna be better to choose a different title like premier instead of "EZE NDIIGBO"? As you know quite well we have just lost our real EZE INDIIGBO and yet to be burried.                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also when is the represantitive likely to commence his task? I hope he does not commence his e-office until after the burrial of our GREAT OJUKWU.                         Who knows this might turn out positively than ever imagined.           Thank you bros i hope you will understand my point.

PointB:
WHO SHALL WE SEND, AND WHO WILL GO FOR US?

Who will be Crown the premier Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland?


Many were called for the primaries
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.0.html#msg9678345

many answered,
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.320.html#msg9700868

some fell by the way side to fight another day
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.416.html#msg9704578


Now the final lap of the race.

Friends, Nairalanders, Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, the four finalist on this important race:


Andre Uweh
Profile
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=338027
(acceptance speech)
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.416.html#msg9704666

high_chief
Profile
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=565585

(acceptance speech)
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.352.html#msg9702186

Odumchi
Profile:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=571562

(acceptance speech)
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.320.html#msg9701696


Only truth
Profile
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=profile;u=362947

(acceptance speech)
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-816238.320.html#msg9701710


POLL GUIDELINES:]POLL GUIDELINES:

1. The election shall be by secret ballot
2. Result shall be made available in real-time, online fashion
3. Party agents and supporters are allowed to report on progress of the candidate
4. During polling, campaign, manifestoes, etc are allowed.
5. Candidate can vote for themselves
6. All Nairalanders in every land and clime are free to vote.
7. Press, Media houses, etc are free to report on the progress of the poll
8. The poll will run until December 11, 2011
10. Poll result will be declared after


Qualities and responsibilities expected OF Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland
The Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland, though symbolic, is expected to:

1   understand and listen to Ndi Igbo
2   enlighten Ndi Igbo
3   guide, but does not dictate to, Ndi Igbo
4   enable and empower Ndi Igbo
5   motivate Ndi Igbo
6   inspire Ndi Igbo
7   credit Ndi Igbo
8   help Ndi Igbo
9   lead Ndi Igbo by example.
10 serve Ndi Igbo

The Eze Ndi Igbo Nairaland is expected to appoint his Chiefs, and reign for one year.


Please let the above guide you in your voting. Igbos must put their best foot forward, online, offline!
So help US God!

VOTE NOW! VOTE RESPONSIBLE!! THE DESTINY OF A GREAT NAIRALAND, RESTS ON YOUR FINGER TIPS. YOU SHOULD USE THEM NOW!!

It's the love which you showered on us,it's from that love the we hornour you.Though some have tried to brainwash us against you,now they have come to know that they have failed.GOODNIGHT THE ODUM(LION) and rejoice for your people and real friends will forever bless your name.

How can one be really sure that all those names who ar claiming to be igbo are really igbos when some very bitter igbo haters, like alhj_harem can speak very good igbo language going by their posts, this is important for yorubas and none yorubas to take note of this as well?

THE BRITSH MUST PAY FOR BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS IT WILL COME TO PASS IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME.

ACM10:
I've been scanning through the readers comments for the past 30mins at TE website. So I figured out that it will be nice to share some with NL users. In the course of my flick through, one funny revisionist made the most impression on me. At first, he was bullying and trampling on everybody in the debate. But when he got boxed into a corner, he complained of being too busy to post, later - headache. That dude behaves just like NL's KATSUMOTO. I love the way he got some kick on his buttt


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jayudoka Dec 1st 2011 17:39 GMT
as an ibo man i have being itching to see what TE will write on
ikembas obituary.this goes to show the arrogance and lack of
understanding from the brits TE included.how do you negotiate
or even reach a civil understanding with a people that realy
wish death upon you.gowon was a christian and thats the big thing
that realy made him think like that.if it was a muslim we would
all be dead by now.the brit helped to creat this disaster called
nigeria and until the brits are ready to support the break up
of this fake nation,noting will be solved.and you will continue
to get all the crime and awful things that is emanating from
nigeria.

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Kim77 Dec 1st 2011 17:41 GMT
Victim of a pig-headed tendency by European colonialist powers to keep their former holdings intact and in one piece. As were millions of Africans.

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Romney.Schield@yahoo.co.uk Dec 1st 2011 18:34 GMT
The author wrote "Biafra’s failure to redraw colonial boundaries by force put an end to most further attempts. If any change is to be made now, it must be by consent, as in Sudan."

Unless the earth was created a this year and our memories with it,
South Sudan did have a war.
And Eritria did, by force, withdraw and be independent.

Was this article written without an editor older than 16?
Or are the editors agreeing to this?

14 years ago I claimed to all that the Economist was the best source of new.
Frankly, it seems more and more like the news from the novel 1984.

I feel like an old man who's whole life was just a dream, with the Economist advocating state socialism for billionairs and denying the existence of reality as I know it.

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typingmonkey Dec 1st 2011 21:34 GMT
"Biafra’s failure to redraw colonial boundaries by force put an end to most further attempts. If any change is to be made now, it must be by consent, as in Sudan."

And what if consent is never to be granted? Must the Ibo and those like them suffer forever? No, the “cautionary tale” here is not for Africa, it is for Britain. After bleeping your colonies over for hundreds of years, don’t screw them for a thousand with your careless, moronic, malignant borders. Britain bears responsibility for Kashmir too. And Palestine. And for the ever problematic border between Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Economist seems to have successfully forgotten this legacy, and we should not let them. Too many have suffered too much, and too many will suffer still more.

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femi Dec 1st 2011 23:09 GMT
An absoloutely balanced obituary by TE,although perhaps still partial to Ojukuwu in some respects.What is galling though is that the lives of millions could have been spared if Ojukwu had surrendered earlier.Indeed if he had been wise instead of clever,it is just possible that the civil war might have been avoided altogether.At the Aburi conference to which this piece alludes,Ojukwu clearly trumped all the other officers who were there to negotiate a peace settlement with him.He could, if he were not so arrogant and stubborn, have negotiated an advantageous deal for the Ibo people,but he chose to blow it.Had he grasped the opportunity to do this he would have gone down in history as a saviour and champion of his people.Arrogant,he certainly was and it is open to question as to whether he suffered from some sort of psychopathy.It would be interesting to see what psychoanalysts make of his personality but he certainly came across to all who met him as clever but flawed and perhaps somewhat unhinged.

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femi in reply to jayudoka Dec 1st 2011 23:26 GMT
jayudoka,I am Nigerian and half Ibo,but I am sorry I totally disagree with you.I was in Nigeria during the civil war and as TE rightly reports the federal troops behaved impeccably.There is no debate here, all the relevant information you would need to disabuse your mind is out there on the internet.We are now Nigerians and the issue of tribal or ethnic diffrences should no longer apply in the modern world.Everyone else sees us as black African and not as members of some ethnic or tribal group etc.Rather than hanker after some reversion to a nation based on tribe,we should all work together to forge one strong nation devoid of tribal affiliation based on tribe.You may not think that way,fortunately the younger generation do think that way, and it is this thinking which is going to build the Nigeria of the future.
But do leave the 'Brits' out of this and let us tackle our problems without needless diversion.If you read this piece carefully and really know the history of Nigeria you would be compelled to conclude that TE have done a brilliant job within the limited space of the obituary.Be charitable enough to give TE credit where this is due,as in this case.Have a good evening.

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femi in reply to jayudoka Dec 2nd 2011 0:13 GMT
jayudoka,presumeably you have got your Biafran passport all dusted up ? Nigeria is not a fake nation,and I fail to see how you can rationalise 'crime and awful things that is emanating from nigeria' with a call for 'the brits' to assist you and your ken with the 'break up of this fake nation'.Are you really being serious, or have you perhaps had too much Gulder and isi ewu tonight ?

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Zik Azikwe Dec 2nd 2011 2:24 GMT
RIP Ojukwu. Inspirational leader.

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femi in reply to Zik Azikwe Dec 2nd 2011 4:15 GMT
Even the late Namdi Azikiwe along with other eminent Igbo leaders like Dr.Akanu Ibiam,Professor Ndem etc advised Emeka not to embark on the disastrous war he was hellbent on engaging in, knowing, as every right thinking person could see at the time,that there was absoloutely no prospect of winning the war,then you say 'inspirational leader',have you really got your facts right ?

If any lessons are to be learnt from Ojukuw's life, they would be the following : -

1.Listen to your elders,this could spare you a great deal of trouble.He could have learnt this lesson from Yakubu Gowon who although far less educated and from a much more humble background was wise enough even in his youth to listen to his elders and who consequently reaped the rewards of obedience.Even today Gowon remains a respected elder-statesman,respected throughout the world.Emeka would love to have earned similar recognition,regard and respect,but he chose to blow his chances.Poseur to the very end, he never had the courage to face the reality of his failings and failures.
2.The fact that you are clever does not mean you are not mad.In fact the two [ often ] go hand in hand.I have always questioned Emekas mental balance,but I would leave that to psychiatrists and psychoanalysts,I am not one.
3.Hubris often leads to disaster.
4.Young men thrust into positions of power and authority often get carried away by delusions of their omnipotence - Lybia's Saif al Islam Gadaffi is one recent example.Young men in similar positions to that in which Emeka was thrust into, in the 1960's, would do well to exercise great care, caution and humility.
5.No amount of education can substitute for true wisdom,which is an innate characteristic of the individual; you either have it or you don't.You cannot force wisdom.Cleverness you can acquire from books and learning,wisdom you are born with,it is a gift from God.You could be uneducated and wise,there are numerous examples of such people,look around you and you would find them.Ilodibe the founder of the transport company Ekene dili Chukuwu was one of them, as was [ alas ] Emeka's own father.You would have thought he would have grasped this fact.

Lastly had Emeka not studied history at Oxford,you would perhaps have excused and forgiven him for not appreciating the consequences of the cause he was embarking on when he chose to secede from Nigeria.He must have know what the full consequences would be,nevertheless he choose pig-headedly to plunge an entire people headlong into the ruin and disaster from which some families, to this day, have not recovered from.
I wish Emeka peace and repose in death,but we cannot shy away from his legacy and the consequences of the disastrous decisions he took at a fateful junture in Nigeria's history.The facts,thanks to the internet are there,let everyone read them and make up their minds.

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The Angler Dec 2nd 2011 4:27 GMT
As a teenager then, I well remember the human that befell Biafra. I would like to have known more about Emeka Ojukwu's life since then, these last forty years. TE is strangely silent about this period.

This one was not up to the TE's usual standard of obituaries. Has the writer been changed?

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The Angler Dec 2nd 2011 4:28 GMT
As a teenager then, I well remember the human tragedy that befell Biafra. I would like to have known more about Emeka Ojukwu's life since then, these last forty years. TE is strangely silent about this period.

This one was not up to the TE's usual standard of obituaries. Has the writer been changed?

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Tokays Dec 2nd 2011 8:22 GMT
Even though i wished that the civil war had not claimed millions of Lives, but it was inevitable. the northerners were intent in committing genocide and we Igbos rightly resisted.

And Femi, what happened in the 1960s is not ancient history. The truth is Muslim north and christian south are two radically different worldview. Chikena!.

Tochukwu

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femi in reply to Tokays Dec 2nd 2011 9:25 GMT
Tokays,I am old enough to remember in vivid detail all the events which occured in Nigeria in the 1960's,I was there,and in the heart of actual events.If it has any meaning for you I lived in Ikoyi at that time.I will not go into detail,however do get your history right before making any comment,fortunately the internet is there if you are so minded.
For a start the first president of Nigeria,Azikewe was Igbo.The first indigenous army general Aguyi Ironsi was also Igbo.The truth is,had Igbo's played their cards well they would no doubt be in a much stronger position in Nigeria today,indeed they could well have had a commanding position,but they lost it.And lest I forget the first military coup in Nigeria was conducted by mainly Igbo officers who made a hash of it.I am half Igbo, so I am not prejudiced against Igbo's in any way at all,however the Igbo people have to acknowledge that they have had the misfortune to have a spate of incompetent and inept leaders of whom Ojukwu is one.
All the actions Ojukuw took to protect Igbos prior to the secession were all in order and he acted prudently,however following the conference at Aburi[ in Ghana ],he totally lost the plot and precipitated the events that almost led to the ruin of the Igbo people in Nigeria, and still casts a shadow on the influence that Igbo people have in the nationl life of Nigeria.What is truly sad is that here you have a gifted people who due to a lack of proper competent leadership fail woefully to live up to their potential.
It is about time Igbo people learn from their mistakes,it is time Ojukwu is seen for what he was, a charlatan and poseur.

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femi in reply to typingmonkey Dec 2nd 2011 9:52 GMT
Great Britain should be very proud of itself.If they can go around screwing everyone around and have done it for centuries,perhaps there is something that can be said for them as victorious warriors.If all you can do in response to plunder and pillage is to complain,frankly I think if I were British I would continue doing the same.Remember in Chinua Achebe's 'Things fall Apart'where the mother harrier kite asked her fledgling how the hen reacted when she swooped down and grabbed one of her chicks ? When the fledgling replied to it's mother and said the hen had done nothing,the mother harrier asked her fledgling to return the chick immediately,since she was sure that by not protesting the hen must have had an awfully sinister plan in mind for the fledgling.On the other hand when the fledgling came back with a chich and told it's mother that the hen from whose brood she had just grabbed a chick had protested vociferously,the mother harrier told her fledgling not to take notice of all the sound and fury,but to go ahead and devour the chick in peace.There is a moral here.
Those who are not prepared to do anything while Britain goes ahead to loot,plunder and violation should either put up or shut up.

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omooba Dec 2nd 2011 10:03 GMT
Part of the apparent and real inertia of most African countries is due to the current structure of most African countries. Very few few of them operate Federal structures that reflect the diversities of their people due to a combination or either of ethnic hegemony or local elite consensus. Lack of an incentivizing and sustaining commonness that is immediately adoptable to the African (language, custom, religion)to give him a sense of nationhood and community will ensure that we continue to operate in parallelism and brief occasional heat for time to come.

It is good to note that there are people within the former Biafra who are helping to consolidate the Nigeria project. Ironically, the ones who led to forge Nigeria geographical unity in the civil are the ones who do most to undermine a common sense of Nationhood. Hence calls for a redraw of the country seems to hold a very high quality of reason especially if you are faced with the everyday reality of the average Nigeria (Note: the average Nigeria is not an Economist reader, and is probably less concerned about issues of Unity or not).

Ojukwu may have made a poor judgement in taking his people to war, but the consequences of Britain not doing enough to Federalize the nation and recognizing need for minority protection in the clauses of the constitution lent credence to suspicions of tacit support for a northern-Nigeria led government reminiscent of English hegemony on Britain. Whatever the case may be, I live in Nigeria and I face the everyday reality of a poorly structured polity which even a constitutional review or Sovereign conference will do little to assuage now.

Maybe the British did not owe our people that obligation, but they owed it to their own legacy, and that failure will ever remain one of the many goofs around the world of the British Colonial Office turned the self-styled "world's best international diplomats".

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femi in reply to omooba Dec 2nd 2011 10:31 GMT
Britain colonised Nigeria for a much less shorter period than Britain was itself colonised by the Romans,but you don't hear the British blaming all their problems on their colonial masters.We Nigerians should stop moaning,roll our sleves up and get on with the project of nation building.I am sick to the back teeth of hearing Nigerians blame all their woes on the British.The British colonised almost half the world at one time with their twenty and thirty year olds,they inevitably made mistakes,but on the whole given the resourcs at their disposal I think frankly they did a good job.It is our responsibility as Nigerians to repair whatever damage they did and to build from the abundance we undoubtedly have.One thing is for sure, the British owe us no obligation to come and fix our own country or indeed to fix any other country,they have enough problems of their own and like any mature people are making an effrot to resolve these,we should do the same.

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Tokays Dec 2nd 2011 11:05 GMT
All said and done, Nigeria is essentially a failed state. Ojukwu is my hero and he will ever be. Femi, you may disagree with him on some of the position he took, but that does not make less of a hero. He is brave, bold and decisive. Non-igbos may choose to interpret it however they wants:they have the right to, after all we have freedom of thought and expression.

So, Femi,on Late Dim Ojukwu's burial day be sure i will be there to pay my last respect to an igbo man, a Nigerian and an African.

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Motmaitre in reply to The Angler Dec 2nd 2011 12:24 GMT
I agree. This was a poor obituary by The Economist's usual standards. Too much was made of the war, and little of Emeka's life before and after it. Also nothing of his personality and how it influenced his behavior and leadership. An obituary for a 78 year old that focuses on only 3 years of his life is not much of an obituary.

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omooba in reply to femi Dec 2nd 2011 12:37 GMT
I'm sorry Femi, but you do not seem to understand the enormity of the trap a typical citizen finds himself in a modern African country finds itself, which explains why the last paragraph of the TE article is instructive.

You equate my observation to whining, even though you opined that Ojukwu Somersault as foolish, whereas if you look at the basis for armed secession in Nigeria, the issues underlying their cause were rightly or wrongly never addressed and yet the options the protesters had were few. Unfortunately they also end up losing the right to have a voice too eventually.

Your impression of the Nigerian problem is very summary and lacking of depth on the real issues which predates independence. Despite the intrigues that led to the war, some - if not majority - Ibos feel aggrieved (check out various Nigerian forums for a start, MASSOB, meanwhile, is pursuing a real cause for which government attends to it with force). While Gowon declared a "no victor and no vanquished" policy, it is a dagger-in-cloak in reality, and the hegemonization has been so far fetched that even young northerners (actually Hausa-Fulanis) still harbour a blind sense of a right to rule without consideration of even a democratic process, part of which led to the death of 11 university graduates operating as electoral officers this year.

I believe Nigeria is a good project. But if it cannot be run with consideration of the diversity and preferences of its inhabitants, I don't understand why we should be moping for a potential in perpetuity when there is only one life to live, the average value of which is less than some wild animal in some other part of the world.

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femi in reply to omooba Dec 2nd 2011 14:47 GMT
Omooba,I do sympathise with you,to the extent that you clearly don't understand Nigerian history correctly,or if you have any understanding,you choose to give it a spin favouring your own apparent prejudices against 'northerners'.I would start by saying that had I been a nortnerner in 1966 there is a good chance that I would have justified the reaction in the north to the events earlier in the year in response to the abject failure of Major General Aguiy Ironsi to bring those who were responsible for the failed coup to justice.For historical reasons much of the northern parts of Nigeria have had less access to western education than the south , and as such right from the beginning the southern part of Nigeria has had significant advantages over the north ; that is still the case.Left to the south,the north would clearly have been marginalised much more than it has been.In any case I do agree that there are significant diffrences between various parts of Nigeria,that is true for all large countries.My argument - if you like,is that Nigerians as a people are much stronger together than they would be if the country [ heaven forbid ] were to disintegrate.I know that many Nigerians unfortunately still see themselves as belonging, at best, to a particular region of the country and tend to have allegiance to a tribe or an ethnic group,but such parochial allegiances ultimately do not serve the long term interest of the the individual units that make up Nigeria today.We do need to strengthen the ties that bind the various ethnic groups instead of creating fissures and calling for the breakup of the country.Outside of Nigeria,Nigerians are seen as one people, and few foreigners would pay much attention to the ethnic groups.It will be difficult,I admit,but frankly I hardly see a way out.Today for instance we see modern states like Germany or Italy as strong unified states without realising that these powerful modern states are also artificial creations, in the same way as Nigeria it could be argued is an artificial creation.We should go beyond short term convenience and work to preserve what we have rather than call for a 'divorce' which is inevitably acrimonious and expensive.Tensions still exist in Nigeria,but these are not insurmountable and it can be said that for all these tensions we [ together ] are still a wonderful people.Have a good afternoon.


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Tokays in reply to femi Dec 2nd 2011 14:56 GMT
Femi, here is a quick quiz:

A marriage joined by force and the man physically abuses the wife continuously, what do do you think should be the best solution to resolve the problem? Bearing in mind the man sees nothing wrong in what he is doing.

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femi in reply to Tokays Dec 2nd 2011 15:04 GMT
Tokays,with respect,may I correct you.Nigeria is not a failed state.Yes,it does have problems,but it is not a failed state.If you want to see examples of failed states,perhaps you want to visit the so called Democratic Republic of Congo,Somalia,Sierra Leone,Liberia,Southern Sudan or Afghanistan.Travel around to some parts of the world, then Nigeria, bad as you would like to describe it, would seem ,in comparison, a well ordered place,I am sure you would then drop on your knees and be thankful.

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femi in reply to Tokays Dec 2nd 2011 15:07 GMT
Tokays,your analogy is well taken,but it does not apply in the case of Nigeria.However in direct response to your question,of course the couple should be divorced in order to protect the woman and her dignity.But again the example does not apply to the situation in Nigeria.

* Is your Gulder in the freezer ? Have a nice weekend !

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ENYIOHA in reply to femi Dec 2nd 2011 15:25 GMT
FEMI, YOU LOST ME IN CLAIMING OJUKWU FAILED TO NEGOTIATE AN 'ADVANTAGEOUS DEAL FOR THE IBO PEOPLE, BUT HE CHOSE TO BLOW IT' IN ABURI WHEREAS 'ON ABURI WE STAND' WAS THE SLOGAN IN EASTERN NIGERIA WHEN GOWON STARTED REPUDIATING SAME.YOU APPEAR TO ME AS SOMEONE OUT TO CONTINUE ANTI OJUKWU PROPAGANDA BY APPROBATING AND REPROBATING AT THESAME TIME. THIS FORM OF MISCHIEVIOUS OBFUSCATIONISM DEVOID OF ADDRESSING THE HEART OF THE MATTER CAN NEVER SHOW AN ENDURING PATH TO THE NIGERIA OF YOUR DREAMS.WHAT THE CIVIL WAR BURRIED UNDER THE CARPET HAS RESURFACED WITH VENOM AND MAY CONSUME THE COUNTRY IF NOT ADRESSED URGENTLY.YOU APPEAR TO BE PASSIONATE ABOUT THE FUTURE WHILE DENYING THE PAST FOUNDATIONS OF OUR CURRENT FAILINGS.THE IGBOS HAVE BEEN OUT OF POWER RECKONING FOR 45 YEARS AND EVEN THE RICH AND POWERFUL ARE CRYING.SO WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT?

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omooba in reply to femi Dec 2nd 2011 15:52 GMT
Your response ignores the fact that I called pre-civil matters intrigues in order to avoid the intricacies that led to the war.

Your argument gracefully ascended from there only to obfuscate into the dreamy possibilities of a great Nigeria. If you look at the various other people who respond to you, you will realize that as a result of not addressing the issues of our Nigeria fair and square, even those who precipitated the events that led to the war do have begun to claim greivance of a sort.

Until justice is seen to be done, the Nigeria we dream about cannot be achieve on creaky and distorted foundation built to favour a section of the country (I have no grouse with northerners whatsoever. I have them as friends but I do not pretend that we have differences about how we should co-exist)to the detriment of another.

I think you need to check - the Aburi accord initially agreed to is much better for Nigeria than the various constitutions the Hausa-Fulani led military handed over to us in 1979, 1989 and 1999.

The crux of the matter was initially corruption (quoting Nzeogwu). How did it culminate into appropriating the various rights of regions to their rights to self determination as existed in the 1960 and 1963 constitutions.

I put it to you that Ojukwu may have hoped that the world would buy the argument and request for a return to status quo. Unfortunately, Britain would have none of that, and today, you and I are hoping that the Nigeria of great potential can come to pass in our lifetime,

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femi in reply to ENYIOHA Dec 2nd 2011 16:19 GMT
Let us not quibble or debate the conference at Aburi.You are on the inrernet,Google Aburi,all the minutes of the meeting are there for all the world to see,so what are we debating about ? If you have any difficulty interpreting the documents ask any of your friends who is a barrister or solicitor to interpret the documents for you.
Besides I can remember this conference very well.What really are we then debating ? I am very busy right now but if you are on-line at about 23.00 hours GMT,when I would have settled down to my Becks beer and pepper-soup,I will give you a more comprehensive response to the matters you have raised,meanwhile have a good evening.

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ENYIOHA Dec 2nd 2011 16:43 GMT
It could be recalled that late Akanu Ibiam of the World Council of Churches renounced his Knighthood and returned his paraphenalia to the Queen in protest agaist Britain's ubabashed support of pogrom and genocide against the Igbos. It is a historical fact that killing of Igbos started in Jos - Northern Nigeria in 1945, moved to Kano in 1953 before the waves of pogroms of May 29, July 29 and September 29, 1966.It was the BBC that dubbed the January 1966 coup an 'Igbo Coup' which generated anti Igbo hysteria whereas all Igbos never met to organise it and inspite of the non Igbo participants while Igbo Officers countered and ensured that it failed.

For the Economist to echo the BBC almost 46 years after is not only callous and unfortunate but also mischievous.

Portraying the victim as the villain,the indisciplined as the insulted,the repudiator of an accord because he had might as beeing right,and the better negotiator as beeing clever are all means of papering over an otherwise unconscionable crime against hummanity for which Britain was complicit.If Ocampo were arround then, it is most likely that Gowon and his henchmen including Murtala Mohammed who massacred over 2000 defenceless civillian boys and men in Asaba would have bagged life sentences in the Hague.
The antics of the then British High Commissioner Sir Cummings- Bruce(who doctored Gowon's August 1, 1966 speech from 'araba' to 'Go On With one Nigeria') in Lagos and the Harold Wilson Government in London were well documented by history and their machinations to substitute western oil interests in the Niger Delta for the Eastern leg of Nigeria's geopolitical tripod by making the civil war inevitable.
Apparently, since indirect rule failed woefully in the East, the Igbos needed to be politically emasculated for unfettered access to oil in the Niger Delta such that Wilson's Government was so exasperated for inability to 'crush' Biafra sooner than later.
Britain was even more clever because as it is, the Nigerian Generals with the bigger battalions were unwittingly, mere pawns for Britain's proxy war.However, the victory has been nothing but pyrric.Has the truncated Aburi Accord not resurfaced as Sovereign National Conference, Conference of Ethnic Nationalities,Resource Control,BOKO HARAM,MASSOB,OPC,APC,etc and the despoilation of the Niger Delta by the oil majors not given rise to OGONI, MEND etc while both have combined to generate monumental corruption, political precipitate economic dysfunction and near failure of Nigeria as a state?

One would expect an otherwise respectable Journal like the Economist to do much better than this shallow obituary on a great man who saw tomorrow, gave a blueprint for unity in diversity and had the conviction and courage to fight for self preservation and against injustice still bedevelling Nigeria.

But since 'the cause of the problem' has passed away, it will be quite interesting to read the Economist's recipie for Nigeria's renaissance moreso since Gowon who won the major civil war is alive to see what Nigeria has become and witnessing a mini civil war in his own middle Belt Region.

The Economist must reinvent and redeem itself or lose credibility - the blatant lie about Southern Sudan cries to high heavens!

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fergl Dec 2nd 2011 16:43 GMT
You failed to mention Britain's disgraceful complicity in the Biafran War. Many Muslims in Northern Nigeria also wanted out of the federation. However, Harold Wilson's Government demanded that Nigeria, a creation of the British Empire, stay together. They provided diplomatic support to Nigeria and were the main supplier of arms to the Nigerian Army. I have started an e petition calling on the British Government to apologise. If you agree, you can sign it at http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/4662

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guest-iijsmwm Dec 2nd 2011 17:24 GMT
If the western countries knew the arbitrariness of Nigeria as a country, why did they not support Biafra's secession? The Russians provided their Migs manned by Egypt and other Arab countries, France supplied arms to both Nigeria and Biafra and Harold Wilson, the then Biritish Prime Minister, failed to honour the promise he made to Ojukwu that Britain would be neutral. Indeed Wilson gave tacit approval to the blockade of Biafra, which did more harm than bullets. Ojukwu should be criticised for failing to see early in the course of the war that he had no chance whatsoever of succeeding.

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ENYIOHA in reply to femi Dec 2nd 2011 17:31 GMT
[b]FEMI, I THOUGHT THE SUBJECT IS VERY DEAR TO YOUR HEART AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU BECAME BUSY!THE WAY TO PERSUADE A CRITICAL AUDIENCE LIKE THE READERS OF THE ECONOMIST IS NOT BY JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS WITHOUT PROPERLY LAID OUT PREMISES AND SYLLOGISM. BEING HALF 'IBO' AND LIVING IN LAGOS DURING THE WAR DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN AUTHORITY AND ORACLE WHOSE WORD IS FINAL.I MAINTAIN THAT INDEED YOU MAY JUST BE AS PARTISAN AS THE WAR PROPAGANDISTS AND I WONDER WHAT MAKES YOU AN AUTHORITY IN LEADERSHIP - PERSONAL AND COLLECTIVE- TO ASSERT THAT WHAT THE IGBOS ARE LACKING IS LEADERSHIP.IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW,INJUSTICE IS A UNIVERSAL BLIGHT WHILE JUSTICE IS A UNIVERSAL VIRTUE.IF YOU WISH INJUSTICE TO OTHERS, DO NOT BE SURPRISED WHEN IT COMES KNOCKING ON YOUR PERSONAL,FAMILY, EXTENDED FAMILY, UP TO TRIBAL DOORS.YOU APPEAR TO WANT PROGRESS FOR NIGERIA BUT REFUSE TO ADDRESS THE IMPERATIVE OF GENUINE PEACE(NOT PEACE OF THE GRAVE YARD OR JONAH IN THE BELLY OF THE WHALE)WHICH CAN NOT HOLD WITHOUT JUSTICE.FEMI, YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN OBSCURANTISM AND REVISIONISM.[/b]

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Kofi-E Dec 2nd 2011 17:57 GMT
The rise of Boko Haram and Islamic terrorism aided and abetted by some of the northern muslim elite; aimed at turning Nigeria into a Sharia-centered governance, makes me wish that General Ojukwu had succeeded in his quest.

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ENYIOHA in reply to guest-iijsmwm Dec 2nd 2011 18:15 GMT
[b]GUEST, MUST YOU BE SURE OF SUCCESS BEFORE GOING TO WAR? WAS WINSTON CHURCHILL SURE TO DEFEAT HITLER BEFORE EMBARKING ON THE SECOND WORLD WAR?IF USA HAD NOT COME TO BAIL OUT BRITAIN,HITLER MAY HAVE SUCCEEDED BUT THE VICIOUS PHILOSPHY OF THE THIRD REICH ABOUT RACIAL SUPERIORITY,POGROM ON THE JEWS AND GYPSIES,TERRITORIAL EXPANSIONISM, BLACK SUBJUGATION ETC WAS UNTAINABLE IN THE MODERN ERA.THE VICES OF SLAVERY,INJUSTICE AND POGROM SHOULD NOT BE CONDONED BY HUMMANITY. INSTEAD OF BLAMING THE WORLD WITHOUT CONSCIENCE, YOU PREFER TO BLAME THE VICTIM.

FOR THOSE WHO REFUSE TO LEARN HISTORY, IGBOS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THE FREEDOM OF THE BLACK MAN FOR CENTURIES. THEY RESISTED THE SLAVE MASTERS IN THE MIDDLE PASSAGE,JUMPED OVERBOARD SLAVE SHIPS,ORGANISED SLAVE REVOLTS IN THE AMERICAS,JOINED THE UNIONIST FORCES TO DEFEAT THE CONFEDERATES IN THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR TO REGAIN THEIR FREEDOM AND ORGANISED TO DEFEAT NAPOLEON'S ARMY TO LIBERATE BLACKS AND DECLARE HAITI AS THE SECOND COLONY AFTER THE US TO BECOME INDEPENDENT.SO THE IGBOS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THE LIBERATION OF THE BLACK MAN WHILE THESAME BLACK MAN IS FIGHTING THE IGBO AS PROXY FOR THE WHITE MAN. WHAT A SHAME ON THE BLACK RACE.FOR THOSE WHO CARE TO READ, JUST PERUSE OJUKWU'S 'AHIARA DECLARATION'FOR A START OF REAL EDUCATION ON YOUR PLACE ON EARTH,[/b]

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Jenọma Dec 2nd 2011 18:27 GMT
Please, the correct spelling of the ethnic group is 'Igbo', not "Ibo".

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femi in reply to ENYIOHA Dec 2nd 2011 19:09 GMT
ENYOHA,believe me some of us have to work for a living.

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femi in reply to guest-iijsmwm Dec 2nd 2011 19:13 GMT
Thank you guest-iijesmwn at least we can get some facts and common sense into this discussion.

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Damian90 in reply to femi Dec 2nd 2011 19:16 GMT
Femi, I would like to point out a few things to you:
The very fact that you have to assert every few sentences that you are half igbo is suspect. It almost seems like you are apologetic/embarrassed for being half igbo. It is also a fact that witnessing issues first hand sometimes leaves a permanent bias, I am not from your generation, but I have studied the facts, you are probably ignoring these facts for what they are (FACTS), and holding on to a preconceived notion. Your innuedos at Ojukwu's (who you intermittently refer to as 'Emeka' to make him seem ordinary) mental ineptitude are also quite unfortunate, this is not the time or place for that, #Just Saying.

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femi in reply to ENYIOHA Dec 2nd 2011 19:25 GMT
O.K., in and earlier posting I promised I would be back at about 23.00 hrs.GMT.,however I do have a headache now, so I think I am going to hit the Becks a bit earlier than I had planned.In any case I am getting rather bored of this subject and if I am still awake at 23.00 hrs. I'll most likely be reading something else and responding to some more intelligent conversation if I can manage it.Have a good evening chaps, and may the soul of Odumegwu Ojukwu rest in peace.

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TRUTHTELA Dec 2nd 2011 20:01 GMT
@ Femi, your PERCEPTION about Nigeria is far from the REALITY. I will like to engage you on some of the FUNDAMENTAL FLAWS that the first republic politicians inherited from the Brits. Unfortunately, the politicans played the OSTRICH by not addressing them. Consequently, Nigeria is the FAILED state Brits wants it to be. Until you come back.

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HUU HUU HUUUH! I LAUGH IN A PAPA EKERESHIMESHI STYLE WAITE A MUNITE,CAN NIGERIA GIVE WHAT SHE DOESNT HAVE,HOW CAN A BUNCH OF DISHONOURABLE PEOPLE PRETEND TO BE ONES GIVING WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE?THOSE IGBO POLICTHIEFCIANS SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THE WAY THEY ARE USING IGBO IN CONDUCTING THEIR SELFISH BUSINESSES,NONSENSE. WE THE TRUE IGBO YOUTHS FREE OF THEIR CORRUPTION,WE MUST REJECT AND FIGHT ANY SHAME THEY OR ANY OTHER CORRUPT IGBO MAN OR THEIR NIGERIAN PARTNERS IN CRIME WILL BRING UPON US THE GOOD IGBO YOUTH NATION.SO JUST LIKE CHINUA ACHEBE REFUSED TO BE DISHONOURED BY THE SAME DISHONOURABLE BUNCH OF LAW BREAKERS (LAW MAKERS).LET NIGERIA RESERVE HER STINKING "HORNOUR" TO HER JIHADS FIGHTERS AND FOCUS HER MENTALLY SICK AND WORST THAN CORRUPT FOCUS.                     ALL WE WANT IS FOR NIGERIA TO HANDS OFF OUR DEAR HERO SO WE CAN GIVE HIM THE VERY HONOUR WE THE TRUE IBO YOUTH NATION WORLD WILD OWE HIM.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   GOODNIGHT OUR DEAR OD UM-EGWU AND THNK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LOVE.    TUFIAKWA WITH THEIR DISHONOUR.

And you beleive that everyone with igbo ID on here is igbo?

Pukkah:
If I feel there's any reason to reproduce it, I will do so as many times as I want. This is not spamming because the context in which it was used was not irrelevant.

By the way, would you have addressed some of the issues contained in his post if not for what you saw as 'spamming'?

Not surprised at all,what a sick woman she is,but let us not forget that another white lady stood up and shuned her and even ready to fight the bloody racist white lady,now tell me when was the last time anyone took that kind of action to defend anyone from outside their ethnic group in nigeria?

Wow!The more they try to lie and bury the truth,is the more they expose the evil they committed.When he said there other things he wouldnt say in that interviewer at that time,that he should waite what was he hiding and why would some people warn him that adekunle must see that he awo wasnt gonna make it back alive if he awo visits biafra,were they competting for something or was there something which they both had secretly in common? infact this article whether the persons behind it are trying to wash awos hands from whatever or not,well it looks like a bit of an unmarked mass grave.                    People can lie but this one has nailed the person it was meant to help really,what a dumb idea.

Ah!Can you not see that the man opens his and give comments as if a gun was pointed to his head? honestly the man is trying to tell people that there are some brutal forces which have been and still trying to stop him from doing what he thinks is best now,when he said some people didnt want him to make peace with ojukwu,so with that in mind one can not help but believe that the man doesnt feel free at all,my opinion anyway.

nagoma:
@noiseless

Within your confused posting you seem to be advising Gowon to relocate from Nigeria. You are loser just like Ojukwu. Gowon is too much a Nigerian to run away to another country. You have no understanding of the crises in Jos.

r.i.p the lion and thank you for the love you have shown to us,and thank you very much, god bless you for standing up for that black woman against the idiotic white colonial teacher at the age of 11 and standing for us through out your life,sleep well the lion general.

@gowon,so those "some people who didnt want you to make peace with Ojukwu even though you wanted to" and yet you went ahead and made peace with him.I suppose those same people and their kids are the ones bullying you around til today that they can butcher and roast your people and others like none northerners with impunity right? No doubt the same people could be also responsible for this your nonsense comment by their useual threat of bully and holding you and your family hostage indirectly in the form of boko haram bombing threat,no wonder you cant even say anything in regard to the deaths of thousands of the same your so called "uno nigga-anus"(1 naija-anus)lol listen mr. why dont you do what is best for your own people at this critical time and speak out against the lack of right to live which is being used against your own kinsman and others,dont leave the struggle for the plateau state governor alone so you can protect your legacy by not "upseting those who are pushing or threatening you with bomb",and also dont worry about what some people may say in regard to any "u turn" just speak out to save your people if you really care for them,or you relocate to a more conducive environment where you can speak freely and challenge the menace against your people instead.

No woman no cry,no woman no cry, yeah i remember when we use to stay,in a govt yard in trench town observing the hypocrites, as they mingling and opening their mouth to discredit our dear hero,while their teachers asking them to give praises to boko haram. DEAR ODUM (LION)THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR STARTING OUR JOURNEY FOR US NOW YOU CAN REST AND CHILL WITH OTHER HEROS OF BIAFRA LIKE EFIONG AND NZEOGWU AND MANY MORE WITH SENSE OF VINDICATION.No woman no cry every things gonna be just fine, ODUM (LION) south south your mothers land and south east your fathers land shall survive.SLEEP WELL YOU GOOD SON OF SOUTH SOUTH & SOUTH EAST.

Thank you very much kobojunkie on this one,now abia state has turned to a state where anything less is good enough what a shame.

Kobojunkie:
Aba has NEVER always been a dirty state. Let's not now pretend that the city has ALWAYS been hopeless. Aba used to be one of the best cities on the East of Nigeria for many decades, until the decay started. Pretending the Aba situation is always been a hopeless one is to pretend that Faulks road has ALWAYS been he pit, governor after governor,has allowed it in the past 2 decades.

TUFIAKWA!AND GOD FORBID THAT GREEN SNAKE IN GREEN GRASS AKA ALHJ_HARAM,I REJECT THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN COS IT WILL NEVER BE CASE AND GOD WILL CONTINUE PUNISHING HIM HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE FOR HIS HATES BOTH IN THE HIDEN AND IN THE OPEN.   TUFIAKWA AS MANY TIMES AS HIS HATES AND PLOTS.

Andre Uweh:
Am sorry for unleashing this high messengers on you. No harm meant, and nothing will happen to you. Just to shake you a little bit about what you said about Igbo women. Ndigbo interested in this thread will not be happy with what you wrote about the Igbo women earlier. You can see some of them have started complaining. Pleae be careful about what you say about Igbo people, who are also a part of your blood.
Ndo.

@na2day you have to count 1 before 2,unless your own history doesnt mean anything to you,how can nigeria learn anything from sierra leon when they are ignorant of their own history?

@na2day you have to count 1 before 2,unless your history doesnt mean anything to you.

Heartless and ignorant devilish nigerians,just listen to yourselves what a shameful mentality,as if even your so called villages there are no people facing with worse situations like that.Now everyone is jumping to call the man lazy,what is the sense in these attacks directed to this couple, while you keep hailing those who brought this country to it's knee by stacking away the funds supposed to use in making the living standards less than this hostile in this country in their foreign bank accounts,or those ex heads of state and their employee ministers and state governors who in their greedy and selfish manners liquidated most companies or sold the rest to themselves and to their friends.SHAME AGAIN THAT IT'S ALWAYS THE VICTIMS WHO GETS EASY BASHING FROM YOU LOTS IGNORANT BUNCH OF PEOPLE.

Oh! I see, that explains why looks and apearances didnt matter at all.

idprincess:
Miss Earth is a pageant designed to select an ambassador for environmental awareness and projects. Maybe a reminder of the floods this year and the lives lost and how much more disasters are being predicted in the future by experts will help u all put matters in perspective.

in my ever unending and unbias opinion,tufuakwa that gal being miss omuma road in aba.

When a news paper published a cartoon of mohamed in denmark the so called good muslims where roaming in the streets many cities around the world causing trouble,blowing things up why because it's blasphemy to depict a picture of "allah's prophet.      When a nigerian journalist suggested that mohamed would like to choose some of beauty contestants that were about to arrive nigeria for the competition for a wife,the so called good muslims roamed the streets northern nigeria killed many many innocent people because her comment was act of blasphemy right?But why is that when a muslim terrorist filmed himself/herself in the name of mohamed to go and commite atrocities,all one can hear or see is the very so called good muslims would be jumping here and there to argue a case for the terrorist murderers,trying to bend an iron bar with their mouth even attacking you a relative of the terrorist victims because you lamented and spoke against the act. SO IS USING THE NAME OF MOHAMED TO MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE IN CHURCHES OR ANYWHERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BLASPHEMOUS OR EVEN WORSE?

@OP IS THIS YOUR CRAFTY WAY OF DIVERTING THE WORLD'S ATTENTION FROM THE ROASTING OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WITH BOMBS BY YOUR GROUPS IN THE NORTH? GOOD TRY,I'M YET TO READ ANY POST FROM YOU REGARDING THE NIGERIANS WHO ARE CURRENTLY BEING BOMBING IN CHURCHS SINCE SOME FEW DAYS.ARE REALLY NOT ASHAMED OF YOURSELF BY CHOOSING TO IGNORE THAT ONLY TO COME UP WITH THIS? BIG BIG SHAME ON YOU.

This shows how obsessed you and your likes ALHJ_HARAM AND CO by reaching to any bucket of water from a tap and shamelessly claiming you caught a fish in it,what a shame and daftie you both are making yourselves to be or is it just a sheer hate in you that you ve sworn to turn everything about the igbo up side down? IS THIS NOT A SHAME TO YOUR FACES YOU AND ALHJ_HARAM BY YOUR EFFORT TRYING TO SCORE A CHEAP AND STUPID POINT OUT OF NOTHING?WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IN YOUR Yoruba CULTURE EVERY Yoruba BOWS PHISICALLY TO OTHERS TO EXTENT OF LAYING FLAT BELLE ON THE FLOORS/GROUND COUNTLESS TIMES ON A DAILY BASE,WHILE INNOCENT CITIZENS ARE GETTING ROASTED BY ISLAMIC TERRORISTS IN THE NORTHERN NIGERIA NOT A WORD OF SYMPARTY FOR THE VICTIMS CAME OUT FROM THAT MAD DOG ALHJ_HARAM OTHER THAN ARGUING IN SUPPORT OF MURDERERS BOKO HARAM,AND YOU EKO ILE NOBODY HAS SEEN YOU ON THAT THREAD TIL DATE BUT YOU JUMPED TO MAKE ISSUES WHERE THERE IS NOTHING AT ALL,WELL PERSONALLY I'M NOT SURPRISED AT ALL OF WHAT THE LIKES OF YOU BOTH ARE CAPABLE OF ,NOW YOU ARE SHOWING THE WHOLE WORLD HOW DAFT YOU BOTH ARE,I REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOU BOTH BREATHING THROUGH YOUR ANUS.

Eko Ile:
Though your semantics is bogus, but let's just play with it for a sec'.

Do you do things because it's for your own good or because you want other tribes to bow and respect you?

Doing things based on the fact that you want other people to recognize you and to accept you means toe are insecure with yourself and ability to do good, it means you lack self esteem and you need relevance and acceptance by other people.

It's the same low self esteem problem you people have been struggling with, we point this out all the time. Ibo people don't work with their own clock, they function based on other peoples clock and considerations.

Either way, it sucks.