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Christianity EtcRe: A Greater Evil Than The Tithe Scam ! by nora544: 10:23am On Dec 02, 2014
RCCG and FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING

REDEEMED CHRISTIAN CHURCH OF GOD

PAYMENT OF FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING: SECRET OF OVERWHELMING BLESSING



TEXT: Proverbs 3:9-10; Romans 11:16, Leviticus 23:10.

Proverbs 3:9 says Honor the Lord with thy substance, and with the FIRSTFRUITS of all thine increase: Verse 10 says So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

Rom.11:16 says for if the FIRSTFRUITS be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

Leviticus 23:10 says “When you come into the land which I give you and reap its harvest, then you shall bring a sheaf of the first fruits of your harvest to the priest,” Leviticus 23:10. It is to be set apart as holy unto God!



Opening Prayer:

Oh Lord our God, the bible says you had been our dwelling place from generation past. Before the mountains were brought forth or ever thou have formed the earth, even from everlasting to everlasting, you are God. For this reason we give you thanks and praises, we honor your Holy name and we say thank you because you do always opens our ears to ear the truth in your word and to see the blessings inherent in it. Today Father please open our ears to hear again and our eyes to see the secrets of overwhelming blessings in your word and help us to be diligent enough to do accordingly in Jesus name we pray. Amen.



INTRODUCTION

The Bible is replete with virtually inexhaustible provisions for Man’s comfort here on earth and in eternity. The oldest singular limitation is Man’s refusal to simply obey the WORD of GOD. 3 John 2 for instance reaffirmed God’s persistent intention and plan for man: Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prosperity. However, God not wanting to appear to man as a Dictator, grants man the freewill to enjoy virtually endless benefits ONLY on the condition of total obedience, to the giver of these benefits -The Almighty GOD.



THE SIGNIFICANCE OF FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING

God instructed Moses to expose the secret of overwhelming blessings to His chosen Nation of Israel. Moses obeyed God by stating the conditions precedent to man enjoying God’s overwhelming blessings. In the Books of Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, Moses stated the significance of FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING, in not less than thirteen (13) occasions.



Exodus 23:19 stipulates strict obedience to giving of FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING. He repeated this again in Exodus 34:26. To remove any ambiguity on the significance of FIRSTFRUIT, God expressly instructed Moses again in Leviticus 23:10 that the euphoria of victory and celebration of wonderful accomplishment must not be allowed to obliterate compliance with His instruction on FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING.



For brevity, let us itemize important points to note on FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING:



FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING must be taken to God’s house (Exodus 23:19; 34:26);
The FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING must be delivered to the Priest of the Nation (Lev.23:10; Numbers 18:42) otherwise known as the High Priest as at then in Israel (Numbers 3:32);
The FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING shall apply to all a man engages in for livelihood (Deuteronomy 18:4);
The giving of FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING must be accompanied with worship (Deuteronomy 26:10);
It must be offered once and during each cycle of harvest, which was yearly in biblical time (Nehemiah 10:35). It must however be noted that in situations of multiple planting seasons within one year, FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING becomes due after each harvest exercise;
The FIRSTFRUIT is the exclusive preserve of the one considered the Nation’s Man of God (II Kings 4:42); and
The FIRSTFRUIT in Hebrew is “bikkurim” and literally means “promise to come.” And there is ONE who never breaks His promise – God! That is why the truth behind this “promise to come” in God’s Word is so powerful. Though long overlooked by many, this divine establishment of God’s order of things is actually the root that governs the rest. When you KEEP FIRST THINGS FIRST through faith and obedience, you turn God’s promise into provision… ABUNDANT PROVISION! The giving of FIRSTFRUIT must be done promptly along with payment of tithe ( II Chronicles 31:5).



OVERWHELMING BLESSINGS OF GOD



Givers of FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING enjoy God’s comprehensive insurance. Jeremiah 2:3 says God issues automatic judgment on whoever or whatsoever attempts to devour givers of FIRSTFRUIT
Isaiah 61:7, “Instead of your shame you will receive a double portion, and instead of disgrace you will rejoice in your inheritance. And so you will inherit a double portion in your land, and everlasting joy will be yours.”
God can be called upon to specially favor the giver of FIRSTFRUIT (Nehemiah 13:31);
The Old Testament text: Proverbs 3:9-10, state clearly that in addition to God honoring the giver of FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING, the giver also enjoys overflowing blessings from the Almighty God;
The Old Testament text further implies that the honor rendered unto God by the giver of FIRSTFRUITS automatically attracts greater dimension of honor from GOD (I Sam 2:30b).
FIRSTFRUITS are giving the first portion to GOD. Romans 11:16 says, “If the part of a dough offered as FIRSTFRUITS is HOLY, then the whole batch is HOLY; if the root is HOLY, so are the branches”. Giving the first portion of your finances to God will cause all of your finances for the rest of the year to be HOLY. FIRSTFRUITS causes God to treat your finances as HOLY giving you favor with GOD because your finances are connected to the FIRST FRUIT OFFERING.
Ezekiel 44:30 “The first of all FIRSTFRUITS of every kind and every contribution of every kind, from all your contributions, shall be for the priests: you shall also give to the priest the first of your dough to cause a blessing to rest on your house.” FIRSTFRUITS impart a blessing on your home. Many times a financial blessing is not our main need or concern. Having a blessing on your home positions you to have healing in your physical, spiritual and emotional need for you and your family. When you give FIRSTFRUITS not only do you benefit but your saved and unsaved loved ones do also.



CONCLUSION

God’s intention is that Man lives a life of true dominion, comfort and overwhelming blessings. However, realizing this divine desire depends on Man’s prompt, total and consistent obedience to God’s instructions, one of which is giving of FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING.

Go to www.rccg.org for frequently asked questions on FIRSTFRUITS OFFERING in RCCG.



In the Redeemed Christian Church Of God, all FIRSTFRUITS OFFERINGS goes to the RCCG National Account and report presented to our General Overseer with which he pronounced blessings directly on all the FIRSTFRUIT OFFERINGs and on the giver. Since it is meant for the High Priest why not send it directly through the RCCG ONLINE GIVINGs? Now if you want to pay your FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING kindly click on the link below and your FIRSTFRUIT OFFERING will be acknowledged by the Office of The General Overseer thereafter.
scam about first fruit this man is realy a devil in sheep clothes
Christianity EtcRe: A Greater Evil Than The Tithe Scam ! by nora544: 10:16am On Dec 02, 2014
THE ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS

The ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS are those who believed that towards the time of the end all nations of the world will run into the house of God to seek the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob and we must build a house to accommodate them. This group of people pledged to contribute whatever they can afford to enable the Church Of The Lord build a new Auditorium to the glory of God. However, the Online Nehemiah Builders have pledged to contribute minimum of N125,000 or $750 equivalent ONLINE every month for the next 8 months starting from 15th JANUARY, 2014. In all we are looking for 3,000 people of God who share in this vision and who believed in this course to the glory of the Almighty God. However based on commitment expressed by a number of our beloved brethren we have agreed together to extend our pledges to 20 months with additional 12 months. Those who are joining us afresh can join us and continue with us for the next 12 months
CHANGING YOUR PLEDGES FROM 8 MONTHS TO 20 MONTHS

Those who have pledged before can login to their Profile account with their NB Code and password, then CLICK on DONATE menu page then change NUMBER OF MONTHS from 8 to 20 from that page.
OLD NEHEMIAH BUILDERS

Those that have joined us before are kindly requested to login into their Nehemiah Builders profile to upload their passport photographs which we want to use to print their Nehemiah Builder’s card to be endorsed by our General Overseer. Those who are registering afresh should please load their passport photograph too. The Nehemiah Builder’s gold card will be printed for those who have completed their pledges for between 8 – 12 months period and a platinum card for those who complete their 20 months pledges. The cards will enable you to access the NEW AUDITORIUM effortlessly.

If we were able to meet the 3,000 registered members who fulfilled their pledges unto the Lord at the end of the 20th month this 3,000 RCCG ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS will be hosted during the next convention or at a time fixed by our Daddy in the Lord at Redemption Camp. For those who cannot come they will participate live through WEBINAR services. Not only that the team names will be printed and carefully engrafted and delivered to Daddy GO on the day of our first service in the New Auditorium , the whole world will pray for them and their names will be published on stones placed within the IT Plaza in Redemption camp for public access.
HOW TO REGISTER & MAKE YOUR CONTRIBUTION

Whether you are a member of the ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS or not you can still make your contribution online or by cash towards the New Auditorium by following the instruction below:

I am willing to make a minimum contribution of N125, 000 or $750 equivalent in USD every month means I am joining ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS. Therefore, click on NEHEMIAH BUILDERS and register normally and make your first payment. For you to save your details your payment must be equal to or greater than =N=125,000 or $750 equivalent. After then the system will display your ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS membership code i.e. RCCGONB00001 & this code will be sent to your email and to your mobile phone as text. When next you want to make your payment you don’t need to register again just go to www.rccg.org then click on ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS, then click on SIGN IN, then enter your membership code and your mobile phone number as password, you can then make payment again until you complete the 8th payment on your schedule. You can click on payment details to see how many payments you have made. For those who want to pay cash, you have to register first, and then obtain your ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS code. You will then take this code to any branch of Zenith Bank and pay cash. Please note that you must go there with your ONLINE NEHEMIAH BUILDERS CODE for the payment to appear under your name.
https://trccg.org/nb/about.php
Adeboyes newest scam!
Christianity EtcRe: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nora544: 6:48pm On Dec 01, 2014
StarBoard:
I like the last part.
They make the "church" as it were to be about razzmatazz and pizzazz without puting the focus on Jesus.
Someone on this thread is adversely canvassing for us to copy Abraham's example, rather than that of Jesus who is supposed to be the author and finisher of our faith only in the area of paying tithe. You point out why Abraham cannot be who you model your Christian fsith about and he starts telling you that no man is perfect. So why copy an imperfect example who no longer lives when we have a perfect living master who is above reproach?
Unfortunately these are the shallow minds that these men of themselves breed in abundance so as to continue with their scams. people who cannot be bothered to search through the scriptures and put things together to decipher what God says in his word. So many lazy souls who do not desire to knowvthe depth of God's word but rather depend on what these pastors say.
I could fill you with stories about RCCG and how they do their things. But let God be the judge.
Please you should write this stories because also such stories can open they eyes of the brainwashed followers of this Church.

It is our right that we show people what goes wrong in this churches.
Christianity EtcRe: A Greater Evil Than The Tithe Scam ! by nora544: 6:32pm On Dec 01, 2014
babyosisi:
I didn't hear a single preaching or read a single write up against tithes written by anybody before coming to my conclusions
The same way no one preached to convince me that I needed salvation.God put the conviction in my heart and without a preacher I knelt beside my bed and gave my life to CHrist got a Bible and sought out a BIble believing fellowship to grow,I was 17 at the time.

I took up a study on tithes in the year 2000 and what I saw out of the pages of the Bible shocked me
I turned to my husband and told him tithes as preached in the churches were very unbiblical and he thought I had acquired heresies.
I began to show him what the bible says about tithes
What could be tithed
Who should tithe
Who the tithes were given to
The different types of tithes and what the people did with them including a type of tithe that was eaten by all that brought it
I literally jumped out of bed after reading all this
The only person I shared this with was my husband who still believes in tithing till this day
From that day on,I felt no need for tithes and when I heAr pastors read out about people being cursed with a curse,I shake my head
it takes a personal revelation to know this
I don't discuss it with people much because the bible talks about wisdom
I only tell whoever is in doubt to set aside everything the pastor ever said,use a Bible concordance and study everything on tithing and tithes in their own home.
It is written in black and white in the scriptures
If after reading it and you are still convinced,by all means pay your tithes
I give as The Lord has blessed me and as he leads me to give both to individuals and to the church
Sometimes I give to struggling ministers and struggling individuals more than my home Church and I am at peace with it
My passion right now is for widows and fatherless.i will give $1000 of my hard earned money for that course before giving it to any jet riding pastor.
1000000000 Likes
PoliticsRe: Court ruling: Erastus Akingbola’s Properties in Cayman Islands to be sold off by nora544: 4:51pm On Dec 01, 2014
Whobedatte:
Hahaha. Man of God? Paying heavy tithe&offering in RCCG does not qualify him as one
Looking forward to what Daddy&mummy GO would say to this.
Our religious institutions r the greatest promoter of corruption&shaddy deals. That's why Holiness in churches today is not preached anymore. It's once saved, always saved.
They should sell Adeboyes jet to!!!!!!!!!

How he can help a thief but what i lean is that a thief will always help the other thief.
PoliticsRe: Court ruling: Erastus Akingbola’s Properties in Cayman Islands to be sold off by nora544: 4:34pm On Dec 01, 2014
https://www.nairaland.com/378405/intercontinental-bank-boss-erastus-akingbolas

so his bis boss could also not help him,

So Adeboye makes thiefs to pastors>!

What a fake christian leader is this and he is called man of God.

How much money did Adeboye got from him.
Christianity EtcRe: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nora544: 9:30pm On Nov 30, 2014
asalimpo:
A real christian would honour God inspite of financial difficulty.
It's called walking by faith and not sight.
If that woman honours God God will honour her.
I know that you are a follower iof this pentecost/charismatic heresy preaching pastors, it is called prosperity gospel which is heresy there is a book you should read it and it will open your eyes because this gospel only enrich this so called Man of God because God is no money printing machine.

Health, Wealth and Happiness, theologians David Jones and Russell Woodbridge characterize the doctrine as poor theology.[61] They suggest that righteousness cannot be earned and that the Bible does not promise an easy life
Christianity EtcRe: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nora544: 9:04pm On Nov 30, 2014
StarBoard:
RCCG practices it.
They give you an envelooe where you record your payment per month. your name and your tithe number is on top of the envelope.When you want to give the tithe youask the usher for your envelope before service quoting your number and they will find it for you. You will then give your tithe in a separate box during the service.
Apparently it is for record purposes.

Trust me that is how it's done in my parish.
I know that is tru and I know more about them how RCCg work it is realy that this church is only a businesscenter I know from the first time I see the face of Daddy go that he is not a real christian.
Christianity EtcRe: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nora544: 6:20pm On Nov 30, 2014
enkay4love:
Exactly!!what is misleading a lot of christians on this tithe thing is failure to read their Bibles.The admonition in Malachi 3:10 and the whole of that chapter was mainly directed at the jews or the 11 tribes of Israel who were mandated to pay a tenth of their harvest earnings(tithe)to the levitical priests(levites) who were mainly temple workers & who did'nt have any inheritance & farmlands to till & produce crops.So the curses in verse 9,were directed at these people of old(jews)and not modern day christians/believers.Jesus or His disciples never ever mentioned any where in the New testament mandating any christian to tithe.
100000 liks

Why is it that nigeria has the richest pastors in the world because they brainwashed their followers, just read that Daddy go build a new school to enrich himself to build his own empire and that is with all this jetflying pastors. I know when a poor member come to a church he will not get help oh no.

I know from a woman in america she is a widow and she live from money from the state so this not much but she can pay her rent and she has food and she can pay her small bill for electricity and that she has extra money she make quilts and when she sell them she gave the little she get from this to a gready RCC pastor who take her money because he has to send every month money to Daddy go.

the next, I can remember benny hinn during a TV program an old woman had a question she has problems to pay her tite because she needs medicine for her husband, what did Benny hinn tel her she should pay the tithe and praying and fasting will help her husband please don't tell me that this is a real christian.

A real christian will help the poor the people who are in need but pentecost/charimatic superstars have lost what it means to be a real christian because they love the money more than God.
HealthRe: Lagos Has 1 Million HIV/AIDS Patients? by nora544: 5:16pm On Nov 30, 2014
It is very important that people know that they have HIV because when they start to take the drugs very early than they can live a normal life.
I hear this from a doctor in my country.

He also speak about that people forget about it, so they didnot protect themself. At the moment also in south africa HIV is growing.

the next is that with the fake pastors with their miracel healing the people have no fear because praying and fasting will help and they forget that only protection will help.
PoliticsRe: SEEKING: Charismatic Nigerian Youths For Change Movement by nora544: 3:13pm On Nov 30, 2014
Do you know about a projekt we make at the moment in Kenya it is called garden in a sack it is about learning people to eath more vegetables.
Christianity EtcRe: Christians Must Choose Between Apostle Paul And Jesus Christ - Femi Aribisala by nora544: 3:08pm On Nov 30, 2014
MissGdope:
When people read single verses in the bible, they read out of context. Sometimes you have to read the whole chapter to understand the context. Don't let people tell you what is in the bible. Read for yourself because Satan knows the word too so if u don't know for yourself, he can twist the word to confuse you
That is what nigerian pastors like from the pentecost/charismatic movement read only one and only this one who is okay for their fake story.

Read your bible and than ask the pastor why he didnot read the next.
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by nora544:
WinsomeX:
I find this piece of information very interesting.

BTW Nora, you speak of a daughter who is a doctor. Three generations of adults all on nl . You are blessed.

I guess this with your Dad at 85, you are in your late fifties and your daughter btw late 20s and early 30s. Sweet...
My dad died this year but he learn me about history and about religion and from him I learn from nigeria when I was a child and the civil war was in nigeria. I will never forget this photos I saw on the TV, Kids dying on hunger.

Now I am the only one but I have many friends from nigeria one of my friends is a priest here in austria and he is from nigeria.
Yes my daughter is a scientist she has a PHD and she is working nomaly on cancer but at the moment she is since 4 month in siera leone working with MSF.
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by nora544: 8:28pm On Nov 29, 2014
Gombs:
Reading ...laughing. .. thrilled.

Nora though! This thread is almost going the way Wof thread did.
I know it is hard when you hear the truth,

I know what science can do, just hear about something new which could help people who have a burnt skin, what would help million of people around the world.

God gave us a brain and we have scientist who search and I can remember when whe had the plaque in europa but since 1899 plaque could be healed, it is like ebola we have at the moment.

I was a little child when I hear about the first heart transplantation in south africa it was 1968 and now it is normal in many countries.

HIV is no death sentence people could live with this like every other person what was 15 years ago.
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by nora544: 7:59pm On Nov 29, 2014
WinsomeX:
BabaGnoni

I understand you perfectly and I now understand why you kept referring to mbaemeka. I believe you mean that every cure for every disease is in man and that as time progresses and medical science improves, most incurable ailments will find cure. This is God bringing healing to humanity. mba will rather misconstrue this as you limiting God to medicine. Of course it means that what medicine cannot accomplish, God can, if he chooses to.

As to WoF advocates, I have invited them to this thread and save for Gombs one post, the rest have stayed clear. I think religious section discusses these days has not been kind to them and they will rather stay away altogether than have their theology shaken. I need not begin listing some of them, beginning with the Bayelsan Pastor SirJohn has sent out permanently from nl.

shdemidemi, there is no works in this. I think it makes perfect sense.
I understand it like you write it now, because my father needs eyeglas because he was very ill when he was a child when he was 25 a doctor told hin that there is an operation he can have but at that time it was a 50:50 chance and he could also get blind. When he was 75 he got the operation and at that time it was close to 100% that he didnot need eyeglases for the rest of his life and this happen to him. My father was born 1927.
PoliticsRe: Man Jailed For 45yrs For Stealing Aregbesola’s Phone by nora544: 7:32pm On Nov 29, 2014
ebamma:
Being a nigerian thief, there are two things involved, its either u are a big thief or u are a small thief, if u are a big thief u are safe, but if u are a small thief there are two things involved, its either u steal from the masses or u steal from the politicians, if u steal from the masses u are safe, but if u steal from the politicians there are two things involved, its either u are sent to a prison or shot to death, if u are sent to a prison u are safe, but if u are shot to death, there is only one thing involved, u shall go to hell
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by nora544: 6:56pm On Nov 29, 2014
BabaGnoni:
Anointing, is an Old Testament particular way of speaking used when it comes to doing God's work or carry out God's purpose.

Anointing simply means empowering and put aside or set aside for God's works.

Back in the Old Testament days, to give a few examples, God asked Moses to anoint 70 elders, God asked Moses to anoint Aaron and his sons as Priests, God asked Samuel to anoint Saul as King. The word Christ or Messiah means the "Anointed One".

Christians too are anointed with power by the Holy Spirit
I know it from the Old Testament but we will never say this to a pastor and I have a girlfriend she is a pastor from a lutheran church and pastors are normal people not God of Men.

But who Anointed all this WOF Pastors because we are not bader than this so called great man of God.
BusinessRe: Market Research Survey: Help Us Pick A Name! by nora544: 6:46pm On Nov 29, 2014
Done was very easy no problem.
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by nora544: 4:57pm On Nov 29, 2014
shdemidemi:
Of course, there is no one with a corner or a formula to make God react. Moreover, I don't think that word anointing was ever used in the whole of the New Testament.

Works is when you say there is something we can do to make God reciprocate. This subtly takes the power from God and places it on man's ability to make things happen.
I never hear that word that a man is anointing, I never hear that it is not allowed to speak against a so called great man of God

We don' that this here in Main europa that first timer i hear it from a good friend who is nigerian when I told him what his daddy go told him is not tru, That was the time when i start to learn more about this and now he knows that most of this so called great man of God or only God of man.
Christianity EtcRe: Blw International Day Of Service by nora544: 4:33pm On Nov 29, 2014
How much you get from the T-shirts you sell.

That is churchbusiness from a God of man.
Christianity EtcRe: Word Of Faith - The Movement's Doctrine And Proponents by nora544: 10:34am On Nov 29, 2014
I just see a new way to get money out of his followers

Adeboye make an advertisement about a book on his facebook

Get a Copy of Be The Best, Be The Very Best by @PastorEAAdeboye now on Amazon Store . Click the link http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KXU1P7Y

People bought it but didnot get anythink. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KXU1P7Y

Book Description
Publication Date: June 8, 2014
Be The Very Best is a book that talks about God's purpose for your life. It is about been not the best but the very best. First Place is better than Second Place just as Gold is far more valuable than Silver. So in life if you want to be the best, strive to be the very best. This book written by Pastor E.A Adeboye (General Overseer, RCCG WorldWide) shares with us the secrets on how to become the very best in life.

It's coming to a month now and the book hasn't Downloaded yet!!!! I have done everything I can and they keep on telling me there is an error!!!! And worse still I can even purchase a new onehuh I need help!!

I know it is only small money but when you have many people who will buy it he will get much money.

He always write My Father in heaven
My Father says I should tell you, you have knocked on that door of success/promotion before and they said No. Go back now and the answer will be YES. Because ‪#‎JESUS‬ has made a way.

I learn that it is our father in heaven and not only the father of Adeboye or has he an other God.
BusinessRe: Oil Price Falls Below Nigeria's new benchmark by nora544: 2:22pm On Nov 28, 2014
hungryboy:
I see America's hand in this, all in their bid to stifle the Russians, and destroy their economy that depends on oil and it allied products, the used their gulf puppets to make the price of crude the way it is,
atleast the Russians have enough billions in their sovereign wealth fund to survive this phase until the saudis are tired of selling their crude at a loss, same cannot be said of our country,
i bet before christmas, if the price of crude remains as it is, we will be paying 150-170naira per litre of fuel
sorry what you write is not realy tru.

Russia is not as strong as it looks.

I can remember when the oil countries play with us cat and mice in 1970 years.

The oil from the OPEC is only 30% of the oil the world need.
At the moment nobody knows if Lybia and Irak could sell the oil what they want.

The emeriates also didnot need the money from the oil realy they have invest in tourism.

Saudia arabia could make it with thid oil price for about 2 years.

That is what I hear in the news in my country.

When the oil price is under 80$ it is also a problem in america because it is very expensive how the american get the oil.
PoliticsRe: Petroleum Minister, Alison-Madueke Elected First OPEC Female President by nora544: 10:08pm On Nov 27, 2014
Arosa:
Why are the western news media not carry this story?
I write some sides before what it mean to be president of th OPEC the head of the OPEC is the Secretary.
Christianity EtcRe: John Macarthur's 2013 Strange Fire Conference by nora544: 9:47pm On Nov 27, 2014
Christianity EtcRe: Nigerian Religious Junk! by nora544(op): 9:44pm On Nov 27, 2014
Christianity EtcNigerian Religious Junk! by nora544(op): 9:39pm On Nov 27, 2014
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits... So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit…Thus you will recognize them by their fruits” (Matthew 7:15-20).

begin this blog by apologising to all my Nigerian brothers and sisters for its title. At first sight it is rather offensive, but I hope that as you read on you will see why I elected to still use it as a title. As nations or tribes or social groupings we take on a certain characteristic that is not true about each person in the group but which we come to be identified with. Hence, Paul could write, “One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, ‘Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.’ This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith” (Titus 1:12-13). In the same way, we tend to (rightly or wrongly) identify Americans with arrogance, Kenyans with marathon running prowess, West Africans with fraudulent activities, Afrikaners with racism, etc.

I have just returned from a consultative meeting in South Africa where the first day was spent surveying the spiritual state of the countries in the southern African sub-region. Central to all this was the state of evangelicalism in all these countries. Nation after nation reported on the arrival of “Nigerian religious junk” that was changing the landscape of what there once was of evangelicalism. One or two of the countries were blessed exceptions. Evidently, this junk originated from mega-churches in the USA and then found ready soil in West Africa, and especially in Nigeria. Having given it an African flavour, it is now being exported across Africa at a phenomenal rate.

I feel very sad to write about this, but by “Nigerian religious junk” I mean the phenomenon of churches that are personal-to-holder. They exalt the personality of their founding father, who is still alive somewhere in Nigeria (or elsewhere) and is treated with the aura of a state president or paramount chief. It does not matter which country you go to, the bill boards of these churches do not have the faces of the local pastors of the congregations in those towns but of the founding father in Nigeria—or wherever he has since relocated. It is all about image and power. This “man of God” claims to hear the voice of God and proceeds to minister to you accordingly. If you do not obey him you are resisting the ministry of God into your life. So, the churches are often called “ministries” rather than churches. And to make them even more impressive, the term “international” is often added to their name.

The Africanisation of this religious junk is primarily in the way it has been made to appeal to African spirituality. The pastor is the modern witchdoctor calling all and sundry to come to him for “deliverance”. Just as the witchdoctor appealed to us by inviting us to see him for spiritual protection or when we were struggling with bad luck, childlessness, joblessness, illness, failure to attract a suitor for marriage or to rise in a job or get a contract, etc., these pastors do precisely the same thing. So-called prophetic utterances are made which explain why all this is happening, holy water or oil is prayed over and dispensed, and some money is extracted from the persons seeking help. Thus their churches attract thousands of people who are there for purely selfish reasons. The motivating factor is not reconciliation with God through Christ but rather “deliverance” from perceived evil and to be blessed through the supernatural powers that “the man of God” possesses. Let’s face it: this is our African traditional religions coming into the church through the back door.

The self-centredness of all this is seen in the worship. Churches are being turned into entertainment centres instead of edification centres. People come to church to be entertained, healed and blessed. The fact that professionals, who engage their brains when working with their hands five to six days a week, stop thinking and just dance and laugh in worship is extremely sad, in the light of the demand of God that we are to love him with all our hearts, minds, souls and strength. It has been the failure of Christians to think through the implications of their Christian faith on the whole of life that has left Africa filled with Christian churches and lack of development at the same time. Surely, if these professionals were thinking they would have added up one-plus-one by now and seen why their pastors have become stinking rich. It is not their faith but the money of their congregants, whom they cheat with promises, that makes them buy expensive cars and clothes and put up mansions. If one thousand individuals are “sowing the seed” every week to be blessed by the man of God, of course the man of God will get very rich while they will get poorer. That is simple common sense.

The result of this phenomenon of personal-to-holder churches has been the selective nature of church discipline. You do not discipline a Sangoma (i.e. witchdoctor)—or a chief! It is a known fact, even among the church members, that a number of these pastors have serious moral problems. However, “you do not touch the Lord’s anointed” and so they are not disciplined, even when they have impregnated girls in the church. One such anointed one in Zambia changed wives three times through divorce in less than six months and still remains the apostle of his church. To be fair, this man is a Zambian, but he has imbibed this personal-to-holder phenomenon from Nigeria. There must be accountability from everyone in the church—including the church pastor.

Yet another characteristic of this phenomenon which is particularly African is the craze for titles. We Africans love titles! Once upon a time, evangelical pastors were content to simply be called pastors. Terms like “bishop” were left to those who had an Episcopalian system of church government, which was a formal structure that rose to national and global level. Alas, that has now changed! With the advent of this Nigerian religious junk, it is titles galore! You now have bishops, arch-bishops, prophets, apostles, chief apostles, etc. Some are not even content with that and so have combinations like, “chief apostle prophet doctor so-and-so.” This is certainly very different from the teaching and personal lifestyle of the Lord Jesus Christ whom they claim to serve.

Many of these churches have since been discovered to be nothing more than fund-raising outfits, with sole proprietorship maintained by the pastor and his wife. The pattern seems to be: start a church and then milk the congregation. The pastors basically prey on the vulnerable and gullible. They are crooks and conmen. In a number of the southern African countries represented at the consultation, governments have sent these pastors packing upon finding undeniable proof that large stashes of money were being milked out of their citizens and being shipped to West Africa. This has made these governments very suspicious of anyone coming from any other African country as a missionary into their country. They now think that all African missionaries are just mercenaries.

Yet, the saddest part of all this has been the loss of the gospel. Once upon a time, you could go to any church that purported to be evangelical and once you survived what was called worship, you would hear a sermon that finally pointed you to Christ and him crucified for pardon from sin. That is now largely an exception, and is as rare as my great grandfather’s teeth. What you hear now are calls for “deliverance”, and you experience this by coming forward to be prayed for. Inevitably, once you lose the gospel, you lose true spirituality and morality. Christianity becomes a thin veneer of respectability but inside there is total corruption and decay. The church becomes a wardrobe full of skeletons. Or, to borrow a more biblical expression, the church is filled with white-washed tombs.

This explains why, although Nigeria is packed with such mega-churches (and is now exporting them across the continent), it is still the most corrupt nation on the continent. If church leaders are milking the people like this, what hope is there to correct things among the politicians and the civil servants? It is impossible! You cannot grow true spirituality where the cross of Christ and the Christ of the cross is absent. We must insist that the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit. Where holiness is conspicuous by its absence, we should never attribute what is happening there to God’s Spirit because he is a spirit of holiness. Crowds and people falling backwards upon being touched prove nothing if holiness of life is missing. Jesus said, “You will recognise them by their fruits.”

In this blog I have avoided naming names. This is because the consultation I have just come from did not name names. However, all I can say is, “If the hat fits you, put it on!” Anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear knows what I am talking about. Let me end by once again apologising to any genuine and sincere Nigerian pastors who distance themselves from all this junk. Just as I know a number of sweet American folks who are very humble, Kenyans who cannot run halfway around a football ground, and Afrikaners who are colour blind, I am sure there must be many West African pastors—and Nigerians for that matter—who will have nothing to do with this spiritual corruption. I only wish they were more vocal in condemning this religious junk being exported from their country!
Christianity EtcRe: Airlift of Christian Pilgrims commences in Kaduna, for the First Time Ever. by nora544: 7:56pm On Nov 27, 2014
iconize:
Folks, is this from the state's treasury or the federal's treasury?

I watched a video on youtube where the finance minister announced - that spending on irrelevant things would stop as crude oil price continues to fall.

Yo!!!, I wonder when this dumbness will stop. Whoever wants to travel for pilgrimage should sponsor himself or herself.

The government, whether federal or state should spend funds allocated to them on more relevant things.
I feel that only nigeria is the only country who make this.

But Israel will not be happy when they will lose the tourist who come from nigeria.

I live in a rich country and religion is private and when one person want to go for pilgrimage to Israeö or Saudia Arabia the person have to take their own money.
PoliticsRe: Our Economy Is Going Down,Nigerians Must Tighten Their Belts-Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala by nora544: 6:16pm On Nov 27, 2014
Boss13:
Let me tell you what she is going to do. She will suggest that OPEC cut down on production in order to hike the price of crude oil. Surely, the price will go up a little bit but this would make oil consumers to seek for alternative choices. Russia has oil, and not a member of OPEC, America is pumping their shale oil like no man's business and its has no impurity. Demand would shift again and oil price will crash further
What is with NOrway they have also oil.
PoliticsRe: OPEC production Quotas Remains by nora544: 5:29pm On Nov 27, 2014
OPEC 166th Meeting concludes

No 7/2014
Vienna, Austria
27 Nov 2014
The 166th Meeting of the Conference of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was held in Vienna, Austria, on Thursday, 27th November 2014 under the Chairmanship of its President, HE Abdourhman Ataher Al-Ahirish, Libyan Vice Prime Minister for Corporations and Head of its Delegation.

The Conference congratulated HE Adil Abd Al Mahdi on his appointment as Minister of Oil of Iraq, and thanked his predecessor in office, HE Abdul-Kareem Luaibi Bahedh, for his contribution to the work of the Organization.

The Conference elected HE Mrs. Diezani Alison-Madueke CON, Minister of Petroleum Resources of Nigeria and Head of its Delegation, as President of the Conference for one year, with effect from 1st January 2015, and HE Dr. Mohammed Bin Saleh Al Sada, Minister of Energy and Industry of Qatar and Head of its Delegation, as Alternate President, for the same period.

The Conference reviewed the Secretary General's report, the report of the Economic Commission Board (ECB) and a number of administrative matters. The Conference also exchanged views on developments in multilateral environment negotiations, including preparations for COP20/CMP10 which will be held shortly in Lima, Peru; the status of the Organization’s on-going energy dialogue with the European Union (EU); its continued cooperative work with various other international organizations for the G-20; as well as its energy dialogue with the Russian Federation and others.

The Conference reviewed the oil market outlook, as presented by the Secretary General, in particular supply/demand projections for the first, second, third and fourth quarters of 2015, with emphasis on the first half of the year. The Conference also considered forecasts for the world economic outlook and noted that the global economic recovery was continuing, albeit very slowly and unevenly spread, with growth forecast at 3.2% for 2014 and 3.6% for 2015.

The Conference also noted, importantly, that, although world oil demand is forecast to increase during the year 2015, this will, yet again, be offset by the projected increase of 1.36 mb/d in non-OPEC supply. The increase in oil and product stock levels in OECD countries, where days of forward cover are comfortably above the five-year average, coupled with the on-going rise in non-OECD inventories, are indications of an extremely well-supplied market.

Recording its concern over the rapid decline in oil prices in recent months, the Conference concurred that stable oil prices – at a level which did not affect global economic growth but which, at the same time, allowed producers to receive a decent income and to invest to meet future demand – were vital for world economic wellbeing. Accordingly, in the interest of restoring market equilibrium, the Conference decided to maintain the production level of 30.0 mb/d, as was agreed in December 2011. As always, in taking this decision, Member Countries confirmed their readiness to respond to developments which could have an adverse impact on the maintenance of an orderly and balanced oil market.

Agreeing on the need to be vigilant given the uncertainties and risks associated with future developments in the world economy, the Conference directed the Secretariat to continue its close monitoring of developments in supply and demand, as well as non-fundamental factors such as speculative activity, keeping Member Countries fully briefed on developments.

The Conference appointed Dr. Bernard Mommer, Venezuelan Governor for OPEC, as Chairman of the Board of Governors for the year 2015, and Mr. Ahmed Messili, Algerian Governor for OPEC, as Alternate Chairman for the same period, with effect from 1st January 2015.

The Conference decided to extend the tenure of HE Abdalla S. El-Badri as Secretary General for a further period of six months, until 31st December 2015.

The Conference approved the Budget of the Organization for the year 2015.

The Conference resolved that its next Ordinary Meeting will convene in Vienna, Austria, on Friday, 5th June 2015, immediately after the OPEC International Seminar on “Petroleum: An Engine for Development” which will take place at the Vienna Hofburg Palace on 3rd and 4th June 2015.

Finally, the Conference again expressed its appreciation to the Government and the people of the Republic of Austria, as well as the authorities of the City of Vienna, for their warm hospitality and the excellent arrangements made for the Meeting.
PoliticsRe: OPEC production Quotas Remains by nora544: 5:24pm On Nov 27, 2014
Omooba77:
When she didn't get it few months ago;many were laughing.Now that she has it;we want to down play it.
when you read what i write before than you will see that she is only the head of the conference and the head of the OPEC is the secretary.

She is it not now she will start it at the first january 2015 please read the press statment from the opec.

The supreme bodies of OPEC are :

The Ministerial Conference
Each Member State is represented in this most important decision-making body by the authorities responsible for oil industry and energy ministers of the government. Each Member State is weighted equally ( one vote) . For valid decisions a quorum of three-fifths required (currently eight out of twelve members ) , for all material decisions ( thus all questions except procedural matters ) unanimity is required. The conference far remained full members can spruchen impressive regards decisions taken in arrears and thus prevent . On a proposal from the Conference Non-members may be invited as observers to the conference. During the conference, a delegate ( minister) is elected President , who shall chair and retains the title until the election of his successor at the next regular meeting . The Conference shall determine the objectives and policies of the organization and determine their strategy can only institution to change the statutes, decide on the membership and chooses the other essential organs. In addition, a general clause specifies all the skills of the organization that were not assigned expressis verbis other organs within the jurisdiction of the Ministerial Conference. The venue is usually the headquarters of the organization in Vienna.

The Board of Governors
Each Member State shall appoint a governor for two years in the Board of Governors ( the Ministerial Conference in this respect a veto ) . The Board of Governors shall in the principles laid down by the Ministerial Conference policy of the organization in order , prepares the budget of the Organization and shall make recommendations to the Ministerial Conference. The Board of Governors shall meet at least two annual meetings .

the Secretariat
The Secretariat is responsible for the executive branch of the organization in accordance with the Articles of Incorporation and observation by the Board of Governors. It consists of the General, and the necessary staff to accomplish its tasks .

In addition, there also the following organs:

Secretary General
The Secretary-General is in accordance with the statutes of the official representative and the senior officials of the Organization . He coordinates the activities of the organization in accordance with the instructions of the Ministerial Conference. The Ministerial Conference shall appoint the GS proposed by the Member States for a period of three years , renewable once is possible. The GS is supported in carrying out its activity by a staff of employees , including two directors ( that of the Research Division and that of the Support Services Division ) and the seven department heads.

In addition, a Legal Counsel (General Legal Council) as well as an Internal Auditor ( Auditor ) were established

The so-called OPEC President is actually only the President of the Ministerial Conference and appointed as such only to chair the meeting at which he was elected . He reserves the office until the next meeting of the Conference of Ministers ( the statutes according held every six months ) .
PoliticsRe: OPEC production Quotas Remains by nora544: 4:57pm On Nov 27, 2014
Omooba77:
I hope madam Dezani will use her position wella.....
The so-called OPEC President is actually only the President of the Ministerial Conference and appointed as such only to chair the meeting at which he was elected . He reserves the office until the next meeting of the Conference of Ministers ( the statutes according held every six months ) .

the man who has something to say is the secretary of the opec.
PoliticsRe: Petroleum Minister, Alison-Madueke Elected First OPEC Female President by nora544: 4:41pm On Nov 27, 2014
OPEC 166th Meeting concludes

No 7/2014
Vienna, Austria
27 Nov 2014
The 166th Meeting of the Conference of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) was held in Vienna, Austria, on Thursday, 27th November 2014 under the Chairmanship of its President, HE Abdourhman Ataher Al-Ahirish, Libyan Vice Prime Minister for Corporations and Head of its Delegation.

The Conference congratulated HE Adil Abd Al Mahdi on his appointment as Minister of Oil of Iraq, and thanked his predecessor in office, HE Abdul-Kareem Luaibi Bahedh, for his contribution to the work of the Organization.

The Conference elected HE Mrs. Diezani Alison-Madueke CON, Minister of Petroleum Resources of Nigeria and Head of its Delegation, as President of the Conference for one year, with effect from 1st January 2015, and HE Dr. Mohammed Bin Saleh Al Sada, Minister of Energy and Industry of Qatar and Head of its Delegation, as Alternate President, for the same period.

The Conference reviewed the Secretary General's report, the report of the Economic Commission Board (ECB) and a number of administrative matters. The Conference also exchanged views on developments in multilateral environment negotiations, including preparations for COP20/CMP10 which will be held shortly in Lima, Peru; the status of the Organization’s on-going energy dialogue with the European Union (EU); its continued cooperative work with various other international organizations for the G-20; as well as its energy dialogue with the Russian Federation and others.

The Conference reviewed the oil market outlook, as presented by the Secretary General, in particular supply/demand projections for the first, second, third and fourth quarters of 2015, with emphasis on the first half of the year. The Conference also considered forecasts for the world economic outlook and noted that the global economic recovery was continuing, albeit very slowly and unevenly spread, with growth forecast at 3.2% for 2014 and 3.6% for 2015.

The Conference also noted, importantly, that, although world oil demand is forecast to increase during the year 2015, this will, yet again, be offset by the projected increase of 1.36 mb/d in non-OPEC supply. The increase in oil and product stock levels in OECD countries, where days of forward cover are comfortably above the five-year average, coupled with the on-going rise in non-OECD inventories, are indications of an extremely well-supplied market.

Recording its concern over the rapid decline in oil prices in recent months, the Conference concurred that stable oil prices – at a level which did not affect global economic growth but which, at the same time, allowed producers to receive a decent income and to invest to meet future demand – were vital for world economic wellbeing. Accordingly, in the interest of restoring market equilibrium, the Conference decided to maintain the production level of 30.0 mb/d, as was agreed in December 2011. As always, in taking this decision, Member Countries confirmed their readiness to respond to developments which could have an adverse impact on the maintenance of an orderly and balanced oil market.

Agreeing on the need to be vigilant given the uncertainties and risks associated with future developments in the world economy, the Conference directed the Secretariat to continue its close monitoring of developments in supply and demand, as well as non-fundamental factors such as speculative activity, keeping Member Countries fully briefed on developments.

The Conference appointed Dr. Bernard Mommer, Venezuelan Governor for OPEC, as Chairman of the Board of Governors for the year 2015, and Mr. Ahmed Messili, Algerian Governor for OPEC, as Alternate Chairman for the same period, with effect from 1st January 2015.

The Conference decided to extend the tenure of HE Abdalla S. El-Badri as Secretary General for a further period of six months, until 31st December 2015.

The Conference approved the Budget of the Organization for the year 2015.

The Conference resolved that its next Ordinary Meeting will convene in Vienna, Austria, on Friday, 5th June 2015, immediately after the OPEC International Seminar on “Petroleum: An Engine for Development” which will take place at the Vienna Hofburg Palace on 3rd and 4th June 2015.

Finally, the Conference again expressed its appreciation to the Government and the people of the Republic of Austria, as well as the authorities of the City of Vienna, for their warm hospitality and the excellent arrangements made for the Meeting.

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