₦airaland Forum

TayserMahiri:
Let me leave these Beautiful Nigerians here and see how worked up you guys get

Btw Nowenuse, you can see why Nigerian soccer players in Europe get racially abused.

mtis:
Why Nigerian women bleach their skin..look at all this naija trying to be white..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHm6OZ4Bdmg

NairobiWalker:
They are interesting fellows. They call other nationals ugly and if you dare disagree then you're immature, short-sighted, unladylike and painting an awesome picture of yourself and rubbishing others in order to feel good about yourself. SMH.

genieluv:
Cocomilian, PissedYagami & Hati13

***Meet Nigerian women without make-up. What do you guys have to say?

CocoMilian:
Thats why they are pros at it. Cant even go to the market without applying that much makeup.

MtuMsuper:
Your approach is very minimalist and quite frankly condescending. Have you ever socialized with a kenyan from that part for you to make that conclusion? What is your source? K24 TV, google or nairaland comments?

PissedYagami:
Even Museveni speaks the language. A good number of Ugandans can speak it, some cannot speak it but can understand.

Muafrika2:
Those bleachers can't hold a candle to this Rich Kenyan beauty


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MtuMsuper:
Wrong on both counts. English was and is a very complex language that has undergone immense grammatical mutation from French, Danish,Old Norse and Latin . Words for personal pronouns like them, theirs are from Danish and common conjugation vary very much from the original language of the tribes that invaded England.This is why English is so difficult to master, there is no general trends, you just have to master it as you go. Its grammar is incredibly difficult and the verb conjugation is crazy. Kiswahili in its structure and syntax is Bantu. And it's been standardized and has few deviations from the established nirm in forming verb forms .Period. It has a lot of borrowed words esp those pertaining to religion and objects not found in Africa.

The native tribes who wandered into the East African coast during the migration periods were a group whose languages were so closely related they had no difficulty understanding each other. In fact they had begun a process of banding together to form a larger group and began to call themselves waNgozi and their language kiNgozi. As a mater of fact, the more old school folks among native waSwahili call the language kiNgozi. Some others preferred to band together under a different banner and called themselves the MijiKenda. In fact the mijikenda dialects are so close to kiswahili, most foreigners can't tell them apart. The middle east traders who came had to adapt and spoke kiNgozi. They brought new words and ideas(Islam).

Before the middle eastern traders landed on the shores of East Africa the people they found were itinerant and in the process of ethnogenesis. They just jumped into the mix. As time went on their trade caravans spread throughout the East African interior and since Swahili traders were the main source of foreign goods, many interior peoples interracted with them in their language. That's how Swahili grew, as a language of trade, much like Malay was the language of trade in the East Indies. Long before the colonial era.
Fact check.

ArtanK:
I would love to learn Swahili for personal gains, but only after learning Amharic fully. I already speak Somali, Arabic, German, French and English. Speaking these languages has helped me enormously, especially in my organisation where it has enabled me to communicate and deal with a wide range of people. Adding Amharic and Swahili to it would be the icing on the cake. I'm already in the process of learning basic Amharic as I'm in Ethiopia a lot.

Believe it or not, Ethiopia is actually our biggest business partner and will continue to be so. While we have the ports and oil, they have the raw materials and a robust agricultural system. Anyone who says that Swahili would benefit Somalis more than Amharic or even Arabic while we're at it, is basically lying to themselves and to you.

ArtanK:
I've got close family from Somaliland and they've repeatedly said that a proper reconciliation between all parties is enough for them to abandon their quest for secession. All it takes is the right approach and this current regime looks like it will kick-start the initiative.

Even if the talks reveal that they're adamant and won't budge on seceding from Somalia, it would be nice to see another stable Somali country in the horn, aside from Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya.

ArtanK:
And why is that? I just came from there almost 2 months ago and I'm going back in 2 weeks time.

These are the reasons for the optimism

- new government that has public support
- over 50 high ranking Al Shabaab leaders have given themselves in after Farmaajo became prez
- there has been a pledge to support the SNA so we can finally move past the Amisom era.
- the new government had pledged to revive the fishing agriculture sectors in recently liberated regions who are the breadbasket of Somalia.
- newly established local admins in South-west, Hiran-Shabella and Benadir regions and thus completing the federalisation process.
- 40,000 new jobs created for the youth and the government has pledged to create 100,000 more to stop the youngsters from leaving the country.
- holistic revamp of the armed forces with the help of the Turkish government and the EU.
- Mogadishu regaining some of its beauty as the diaspora (like myself) are returning to the country and taking part in rebuilding it. Even Kenyan Somali companies are on course to expand, if not fully relocate to Somalia.

That plus a whole lot more..

Remember 5 years ago, the capital was a no-go zone and the country was a failed state. Well it is no longer a failed state, it is recovering gradually. You can't fix problems that have accumulated for 25 years in a split second. The signs of improvement that we have seen so far is the reason for so much optimism and hope.

It's super easy to ignore all of that and say there is no hope or it will never recover from your house in wherever... You don't see the struggle people are going through to revive this once great nation. It will prove doubters wrong and they'll be forced to eat their words.

Dhulka iyo dadka Somaliyeed ha noladaan.

nemesis2u:
wrong

English does not hold India, Indian languages holds India which have their place of origin in India/places of Indian influence.

There is no national language as declared by the Constitution of India.

Hindi and English are used for official purposes such as parliamentary proceedings, judiciary, communications between the Central Government and a State Government.

State governments within India have the liberty and powers to specify their own official languages through legislation and therefore there are 22 officially recognized languages in India.

English is used as a secondary/tertiary language if no other option exists.

one day hopefully Sanskrit will take its rightful place in India

nemesis2u:
no offense but i beg to differ ,

India is one of the very few civilizations to have a continuous civilizational and cultural existence in one form or the other since prehistoric times , 200 years colonial rule was just a small factor in India's 10000+ years existence.

it is very selfish and biased to compare a country only for its 200 years under colonial rule and ignore the rest,

why nit pick , isnt it a case of being prejudice and obfuscation of facts to suits ones point of view ?

i don't think there is any similarities between Africa and India at any point. Indian history is totally different from African history.

reason being both r unique and different totally when compared to each other.

my generalized perspective (not country specific) below

one reason which i find very sad to note is Africa (post colonial rule) never seriously charted and pursued it own cultural identify, inspite of ample opportunities, without the pride of ownership in ones own African centric religion, way of life , culture , script , literature etc it is difficult to inspire future generations of Africans.

no offense but Africans left their own way of life, culture and their religion and adopted others culture and religion more or less.

why do u think china India japan Korea etc r in a better position ?

"When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." Jomo Kenyatta president of Kenya.

this follow got the issue right by the balls.

Africa had everything from resources to manpower etc to claim its rightful place in the world but unfortunately squandered it away.

much of the blame lies on the African themselves , look at the discussions here on this thread people r busy shitting on each other rather than find common grounds of mutual interest and welfare.

and u all want to become giants in the world SMH . people divided among themselves can never provide the foundation for a strong culture/country/continent/race etc .

lack of common ground / mutual interest in terms of religion / culture / language / way of life etc and importantly solidarity brotherhood and pride of ownership r the biggest hurdles that faces present and future generations of africa.

it is kind of sad really lots of potential wasted and squandered away.

9jakool:
So Fulanis are native to Nafada? The other ethnic group in Nafada-Bajoga are Ngamo.

ArtanK:
Naah mate, you'd get your panties in a twist if someone was that negative about your country of origin.

Luckily for the Somali people, your ill wishes won't change their promising future.

Marcelo290:
400 million? dafuk.! Why don't these people borrow a leaf from their fellow Muslim counterparts in Places like Dubai and other developing Islam nations? they are extremists more than those who even brought the religion to them... Education! Education! what this people really need, those who grew up in the South don't have this wack mindset, my major problem with them is that they are drawing other progressing regions back!

Only stupidity would make someone to waste his life with a bomb, their elites wouldn't go unpunished for this wicked acts..

TayserMahiri:
Swahili is an official language of EAC so you just ranting. Once we achieve EAC federation Swahili will be the main language alongside english.

mtis:
How is EAC not working ?? How are we not united..we are one people..a Tanzanian visiting Kenya is like moving from one town to another..it feels home whichever country one visits...don't listen to all that politics bs..

mtis:
Doesn't mean if its a failed nation its a dead one.many Somalis from somalia transact business in Kenya..many nationalities of quoted countries reside in Kenya a speak Swahili fluently..

mtis:
Now Swahili is a useless language ..dude that's just jealousy..Zambia,Somali, s Sudan Rwanda Burundi ,Somalis among guys speaking Swahili of late..dude don't quote stuff ya don't know

fanficgirl:
Wait, why are you calling Swahali useless?

Isahalbash:
When you see any beggar ask Dem weds dey knw me or we r related



Nijeriens r our brothers in humanity.



Unfortunately, he failed woefully cos our illiterates brodas r brilliant while he ND his accomplice r intelligent.




It seems u still have some senses in dat ur conic head

mtis:
Somalis from somalia are learning Swahili of late.you need to know Swahili to handle business well in East Africa

kaylinda:
Kenyans here are being very hypocritical from what i am observing

mtis:
is that your wish coz the opposite is happening dude..Swahili is taking over

TayserMahiri:
Why do you always sound worked up? I am saying if those regions were under Kenya, not under whatever jurisdictions they are now. Were you expecting people to accept a language imposed on them by a terrible dictator like Idi Amin? You gotta have strategy and a good approach. Uganda is still under dictatorship. If Uganda was in kenya they would have spoken swahili long ago all of them

TayserMahiri:
Even untill recently, Swahili was still more widely spoken than English. You are trying to make it sound like Kenya is a homogenous society. We have all major groups in kenya and were it not for authorities promoting Swahili, we would not be as simple as you make it sound. As someone told you, even if the whole of the east africa and the horn was Kenya, we would still speak swahili

TayserMahiri:
See, it was about Africa I dont know why you went to India to justify your case. We Kenyans boast of Swahili as both a national and official language. More people speak Swahili than English. In the language aspect alone, we are more African than you are, considering those of you from different tribes have to converse in English (or pidgin, its corrupted version).

freshest4live:
It's thesame with the Indians, the official language is English, you do not expect us to have a single indigenous language, given the fact that we speak over 500 languages. But l agree, it is crazy fighting over religion especially foreign ones.

MtuMsuper:
Stop your charade oga, kiswahili is an African tongue. Show me a language with 100% pure words. Have you ever opened a dictionary on Australian English and seen words like boomerang, dingo and the different meaning of the word "station ". The birth place of kiswahili is the East African coast stretching from Lamu in Kenya to Sofala in Mozambique, with all the islands in between included. Does this answer you?

TayserMahiri:
Hahahahaha. Arent you even ashamed? Swahili was not from Arabs.