₦airaland Forum

Marcelo290:
In as much as I agree with your points, I would advice you tone down your use of words and mode of approach, let's not turn here to the average bashing threads on NL...

Let's just say he is different from the rest, religion is the major tool which their elites use in blindfolding them, imagine using money for capital developments for building mosques, reason they hate Sanisu the Emir of Kano for continuously telling them the truth.

Yes you are correct.
Imagine Kano state govt yesterday budgeting 400 million naira for feeding people during the ramadan. Can u imagine such a waste of funds? After feeding the people n ramadan ends, what next?
If not that their own people are naturally dumb and religious fanatics, why should they be falling for religious brainwashing?

genieluv:
Kk. Well, i think it's hightime we stopped this argument. Facts speak for themselves.
I myself am not happy with the level we middlebelters are, i believe we can and should outcompete the southerners in human development. There is always a higher level to attain. I decline this argument henceforth. Peace n love.

To u n nowenuse, i think we should end this.

Okay i think i will. Facts speak for themselves truly, afterall.
Yes, we middlebelters need to develop ourselves more. These stupid core-northerners just piss me off cos to a large extent, they drag us behind with their backwardness.

Also we seem to succeed only mostly in agriculture, civil service and handskills. We need to develop our business acumen and make our areas more economically viable.

genieluv:
Kk, bring your own list. This is the one i have acess to and it covered the demographics for 2010-15 (5 years).
There is no basis of comparison please. Look at Jigawa, Zamfara, Kebbi, Sokoto, Yobe, Borno e.t.c

*****Running away from the truth will not help you n just as nowenuse said, you are an enlightened person and you need to help your people cos they seem to be missing it.

Leave the fool alone. Eye go soon clear him people well well. They should keep running away from the truth while others are making tremendous progress.

Isahalbash:
You just talking now... The vampire in you have started surfacing


Oya, everybody shud start to run bfore Nowenuse starts to eat you cos he's a cannibal demon bn pretentious cos I knw it frm d onset


Even Jesus Christ pbuh will reject ds demon

Hahahaha, very cheap and dumb.
Is it not better to be a cannibal and make progress? Only God knows when Borno state (Kanuri homeland) will recover from the destruction of boko haram.

From colonial and even pre-colonial period, your people were the most progressive in Nigeria. What happened along the way that you now have the highest poverty and illiteracy rates in Nigeria? Or even Africa? Tell the world.

You people are no different from people of Niger republic and Somalia, beggars everywhere, all over the streets of Nigeria. Your only saving grace is that your elites have access to southern oil money in the name of one Nigeria. What a shame!

This was exactly what Gideon Orkar saw and wanted to cut you guys off and merge you guys with Niger republic. You guys are similar and would have been better of together.

TayserMahiri:
You also have the biggest juju issues, so your pastors must be very uneffective.

We may, cos we have the biggest african population. At least we have not started exporting juju like you Kenyans do

Isahalbash:
Hahhahahah... People r talking a Chinese slowpoke is also talking... Guy go and help ur people in southern kd villages bfore cumin here to rant like a newly madman who escaped from yaba left. See who's calling sum1 a slave...what an irony!


I don't blame you though since you a cannibal from Jos, u r already programmed to act like a robot

Southern kadunas are already helping themselves by becoming highly educated and leaving poverty for you guys. Lol

Running your mouth here will not stop millions of your Kanuri people from being refugees all over Nigeria and other countries. Why don't you go and attach a bomb and blow yourself up as your prophet of piss Mohammed told you to? Or don't you want to meet your 72 virgins? Terrorists!

TayserMahiri:
You are the same guys who call people who preserve their African culture primitive.

We call your cultures primitive because you have failed to develop them and make them advanced. How is dancing and playing naked and drinking cow blood from a living cow celebration of culture? Jeeez!

TayserMahiri:
I hope they criticize juju too. I would rather be 100 % full blooded westernized than practice juju.

What a comment. Why do your kenyan people run to Nigerian pastors for spiritual deliverance? We have the best pastors in Nigeria to handle juju issues. You guys don't.

Isahalbash:
Lolz my people indeed... Maybe you shd take a stroll to d villages in southern Kaduna nd tell Dem that. Oh! Now is abt civilian govt

Continue running like kangaroo

genieluv:
Naaah, they secured northern interests. Northerners dominate the miliatary n civil services in Nigeria till date, courtesy to them. The problem is with the culture of the northerners (core-northern muslims especially), who despise western education n hence failed to develop themselves. Sectors like media, economy n others are largely private driven, hence the southerners being more individually developed than northerners have to dominate them.

****Oh yes of course, Southern kd is better than northern kd in literacy n poverty rates. As poor as southern kd villages may be, it is almost impossible for you to find a child, teenager or youth that does not go to school or is an illiterate. Can you say the same for northern kd people? You cannot underestimate the power of literacy. Their people are rapidly coming out of poverty n developing themselves. If you doubt this, visit any southern kd village during christmas n see the beautiful, educated, well-living people you will find, who all came back home to celebrate the festivity with their parents n grandparents back the in the village.

##### As for the hastag, we seem to use northern muslims for backwardness, cos core-northern muslims constitute a far larger percentage of northern muslims (like 75%), buh we mostly use 'core-north' if you are sincere. We may use middlebelt for success cos some of the middlebelt muslims are also almost as progressive as the middlebelt christians n cannot be left out.

Holly Kano more than Benue? That can never happen. Let me go n bring the list here. Kano may be more than Plateau cos they have far more indigenes than Plateau. So, to be on fair grounds, you should compare Plateau with Katsina or other core-northern states.

genieluv has given you the perfect reply. No matter how you choose to take it, we are making more progress than you 'mentally enslaved imbecilles' .
My mother was from a very poor family n village in Plateau, like those you see in southern kaduna and other northern christian areas, but due to education, she and all her sibblings today have left that village and are living large/very comfortable today. Some are now millionaires. This is exactly how it is in most northern christian and middlebelt areas, can you say the same for core-northerners?
Can you see why we are better than you guys? Our way of life makes it easier for the poorest of the poor to become educated millionaires tomorrow, unlike yours where the rich keep getting richer and the poor keeps getting poorer.

Imagine a state like Kano, with all the wealth and urbanization, yet, about 70% of the people still live in extreme poverty and this is the most progressive core-northern state, while other core-northern states are dragging poverty rates with Niger republic and yet the governors are building more mosques. Lol.

If i were you, i would go and work on how to liberate my people from the shackles of religious bondage and not running your mouth here like a tap. You backward people were the ones who dragged our own people backwards, but thank God now, we are increasingly associating with the southerners and are now catching up with them rapidly. Nonsense!

9jakool:
Thanks for clarifying. I knew they were in Nafada lga, I think the confusion comes because they are mostly Muslim. @genieluv

Nafada/Bajoga belongs to fulanis and some groups i can't remember now. Dukku belongs to bolewa.

You see, no hausa or fulani man has ever ruled Gombe state. The minority groups are in a majority in the state (like 65-70% of the population and majority are christians) while the remainder are fulanis. The fulanis just formed an islamic alliance with the muslim minorities to ensure only muslims rule the state and this has largely favoured the muslim minorities. e.g the current governor Ibrahim Dankwambo is Tera by tribe from Yamaltu/deba lga, the previous Danjuma Goje was Jukun-pindiga by tribe from Akko lga. Hashidu was bolewa by tribe.
Now, people who don't know may think these people are hausas or fulanis, but they are not.

There are no hausa indigenous territories in Gombe state.

genieluv:
Holly i understand you. The definition between the middlebelt n core-north is sometimes not to emphasized, politically buh as for Babangida n Gowon, they represented northern agenda (core-north driven agendas) n not for middlebelters. They were like puppets in the hands of core-northerners if you ask me. Though i wouldn't blame them much cos during the times when they grew up, there was no much difference between the middlebelt n corenorth.
Besides Babangida is of hausa ancestry apparently, his grandfather migrated from Sokoto to Minna. He is not a gbagyi man by origin.

****Northern kaduna may be more developed infrastructurally than southern kaduna, buh if we look at the life n development of the people, no comparison, it's vice versa. It's just like comparing Kano & Plateau states. Kano might be more developed/urbanised buh Plateau people have a higher human development index.

Perfect explanation to Ishalbash.
Core-northerners should continue to wallow in backwardness while other Nigerians get educated, enlightened and leaving poverty. Their population will keep on being used as slaves and cheap labour for other Nigerians to make more wealth.

genieluv:
lol, same thing we all said. Alas, the kenyans couldn't argue any further on beauty n we won. lol.

****Good idea (Nigerian men) . Since this thread is already getting boring, let me make it colourful with famous Nigerian men. I bet the ladies will love it. Cc fanficgirl
Let me also tease some guys Nairobiwalker n TayserMahiri

~~Meet the most handsome n hottest movie actors in Africa~~

Alex Ekubo
Michael Godson
Gbenro Ajibade
Yul Edochie

genieluv always repping. Keep the naija flag flying.
Nigerians are the most beautiful africans. No doubt!
Teach these kenyans what good looks is about.

You can add my picture too, afterall i am the most handsome guy on this thread

Isahalbash:
Action speaks louder than words


Poverty is an epitome of southern kaduna... You guys r not better than d core north in all ramification. Stop deceiving urself.


Hahahh... Which progress r you guys making apart from ur hatred for muslims... U always shout middlebelt, but wen it turns to who ruled Nigeria most, u turn it to northern muslim as if d 2middlebelters who ruled Nigeria during d military era was nt more than d core northerners have ruled both in military ND civilian era combined.


Stop bn an hypocrite ND kiss d truth.

Hahaha, poverty and illiteracy is rapidly reducing in our areas compared to yours. If you don't consider that as progress, then i wonder what is, maybe building more mosques with govt money is a sign of progress to you.
Everyone knows your people have the highest poverty and illiteracy rates in Nigeria.

No one is being an hypocrite. How many civilian presidents have come from the middlebelt and how many from the core-north?

genieluv:
Holly i don't think so. Let me confirm from some Gombe friends of mine. One of em have explained the ethnic compositions of Gombe for me n nowhere was hausa land or hausa indigenes.

No need to confirm cos am here.
@9jakool, Dukku LGA is owned by Bolewa ethnic group and not hausas. Bolewas are also indigenous to neighbouring northern bauchi and southern yobe.

Only Bauchi state (among all the north-eastern states) is likely to have indigenous hausa population (in the northern parts of the state).

Isahalbash:
Hahahhahaha....... Why r you trying to be mischievous by dis statement;"You will agree with me that the life of an average Igbo man today is better than the life of an average hausa/northern muslim today."

Is the life of and average Igbo man not better than the life of an average northern/ christians life?


Are d northern christians not educated than their muslim counterpart before?
If you can't dominate dem when they were staked illiterates... Sorry! I don't see you dominating Dem now when they r gettin more enlighten now

Do you know the names of all d villages in Borno before concludn they don't have any?

No, education came to all northerners the same time but as it stands now, the northern christians/middlebelt people have far surpassed the northern muslims/core-northerners in education.
The difference started being obvious not too long ago and is becoming more obvious by the day.

Yes, the life of the average Igbo or southerner may be better than the life of the average northern christian, but with the way the northern christians are making progress, in a very short time from now we will catch up with the south. We have almost caught up with them educationally. While you core-northerners are still decades behind others and are not making any reasonable human progress.

Isahalbash:
I knw all dat daz y I never claimed to be an indigene of Lagos in d first place and you don't need to dominate a local govt to be a native of dat state.





If am to go by d actual definition of " indigenous," then many tribes in Nigeria are not indigenes of d states/ places they dominated today since most of Dem migrated from somewhere nd settled in where they r today.




We Have Hausas who r native of borno just d way we have kanuris as natives of Nasarawa state respectively.

Those Kanuris in Nasarawa state are now adressed as 'Kambaris'. Most Nasarawa people don't call them kanuris. They migrated to Lafia over 200 years ago (pre-colonial), yes they have kanuri ancestry but they have been culturally cut off from kanuri motherland and have lost the kanuri cultures. They have no villages and are just found in Lafia town.
The more that town grows, the more their population vanishes. Although they are lucky to have the current Emir of Lafia to protect their interests. Other tribes are now also agitating to produce the next Emir of Lafia and they may succeed.

9jakool:
Can you give the local government areas where Hausa dominate in Borno?
Bro, Hausa aren't native to Borno. Just because you are born there doesn't mean you are an indigine of the land. Just like if you were born in Lagos doesnot mean Igbos or Hausas are native to Lagos?

Don't mind Ishalbash. This is the problem we have in the north and the reason why northern Nigeria will continue to be divided.
It's just a matter of time till you will start seeing very strong agitations from middlebelt youths.

Although i may not blame his so much cos he is from Jigawa ( a hausa dominated state) and is so used to hausas. If not, the average Kanuri man from Borno that i know of will never tell you that there are hausa indigenes in Borno state. Never.

Imagine someone saying Hausas are indigenous to Adamawa, Taraba, Gombe, Plateau, Borno e.t.c

Isahalbash:
Yeah in some northern christian state like plateau.

Only plateau? It also happens in Taraba, Kaduna, Adamawa and even Bauchi states @TayserMahiri

Isahalbash:
In your context of " indigenous" if a people don't have d aforementioned characteristics they r not an indigene of dat state/ place... Well, in my state d kanuris also don't have some of what u mentioned, but they r still indigenes of that state nd d majority hausas and fulanis wwho have d emirs nd what hv u, can dispute that.



Lolz! You mean d southern kadunas who don't have stake in kd... People who hv bn ruled by hausas nd fulanis from time immemorial, besides, all d infrastructures in kd r situated in d northern part. Hausas and fulanis r majority in kd.

Southern kaduna people have been dominated because in the old Kaduna state (which Katsina people were part of), Hausas were an absolute majority and the southern kadunas had no stake as they were just like 20% of the population.
Since Katsina people got their state, it has left Kaduna state a 50/50 btw hausas and southern kadunas and a united southern kaduna (chungai) identity has evolved.

Your Kanuri people in Jigawa may not have a traditional ruler cos we all know how hausa-fulani emirs were forced on many northern tribes during the colonial era. But your people have dozens of villages and cultural terrains in Jigawa.
Hausas have no ancestral villages anywhere in the north-central or north-east.

Hausas/northern muslims have been dominating Nigeria politically but what progress do they have to show for it? You will agree with me that the life of an average Igbo man today is better than the life of an average hausa/northern muslim today.
So, if you ask me, i think political domination is almost useless in the hands of hausas cos they use it only in empowering a few elites while their own masses suffer the worst poverty in Nigeria.

Southern kaduna people today are already more educated and enlightened than Hausas in northern kaduna. It is just a matter of time before they take over the intellectual and economic domination of Kaduna state and start enslaving the same hausa people just as you see many northerners in the south today as slaves.
So pathetic!

genieluv:
Yaaah, holly this was a colonial problem. The British colonialists in a desire for administrative convenience decided to classify all Nigeria into 3 major ethnic groups. Hausa, yoruba n Igbo. The minority groups were all expected to fall under one of the classifications.
>>> This led to the absolute domination & control of minority groups by majorities, not until independence when democracy n creation of states started giving we minority groups a voice
Unfortunately, this old system had already wrought some irreversible damages to some minority groups, which may never be recovered.

Perfect explanation to TayserMahiri

During the regional system of govt, minority groups were like 2nd class citizens in Nigeria. They had to work by the dictates of the majority group controlling their region.
And even till date there is still a form of discrimination on minority groups in Nigeria cos the federal govt still works with the 3 majority groups as the identity of Nigeria and promotes them over others.

TayserMahiri:
Man I love this song
I listen to it every day

I dislike the video of the song but i like the audio.
Have you listend to 'gallway girl' by same artiste?

Isahalbash:
Nop, you r wrong too even in Borno a non Hausa state, we have indigenous hausas. They hausas mayb in minority in those states but they r indigenes... I just understood why most Hausas in plateau state r NT gvn indigene letter they rather obtained it in Bauchi.



We have majority Hausas in - Kano, Jigawa, Sokoto, Kaduna( you might disagree, but hausas r majority here oda tribes r minorities), Zamfara, Katsina, Bauchi and maybe Kebbi( nt to sure here)... Minority in Borno, gombe, yobe, adamawa, Niger, Nasarawa, plateau, Taraba.


If Hausas r 50% in Kaduna nd kebbi states respectively, in a state dat has multiple ethnic groups- And d oda 50% is divided amongst d Jabba, kataf, Fulani, Gwari etc. Someone should do d calculation for me and tell me which is d majority tribe in such states...

genieluv has given you and TayserMahiri some good explanation.
Hausas are not indigenous to any other northern states apart from the 7 north-western states and perhaps Bauchi.

As for Bauchi state, it is now difficult to tell who is a hausa and who is not in Bauchi due to the fact that most Bauchi indigenes have abandoned their native languages and even cultures for hausa and they are mostly muslims.
Otherwise, Bauchi was never a hausa place. You hardly find hausa villages in Bauchi state. Almost all the cultural areas belonged to minority tribes and fulanis.

So, if we say by ancestry, Hausas should be a small minority in Bauchi state or not even indigenes at all, but as it stands now, that does not count anymore.

9jakool:
Nice explanation.
ok. if you say so, what are the names of Hausa towns in Borno?

Hausas do not have any towns or villages in Yobe state let alone Borno. How could they?
I don't agree with the explanation of Kanuris being 3/4 of Borno state population by Ishalbash. They should be 2/3 of the state. Kanuris dominate north and central Borno while minority groups dominate south Borno.

TayserMahiri:
So they are that many. Does the indigene vs settler phenomenon cause some strained relationships?

It has led to extremely bloody conflicts and the religious polarization of Jos city.
This is my state of origin, so i would be in a better position to tell you.

NairobiWalker:
I know these sections of Ibadan. They just don't impress me for a city of 3M people. Compare this to nicer places in East African cities if 2M and below such as Mombasa, Kampala, Kigali, Bujumbura and even the war ravaged Mogadishu and you'll see Ibadan is crap. Even smaller cities with less than 1M people in East Africa such as Kisumu, Nakuru, Eldoret, Arusha look so nice in comparison to Ibadan.

The problem with Ibadan is the same problem that has bedevilled most Nigerian cities (decades of military rule) and destruction of the old regional govt system of Nigeria.

During the mid 20th century (1940-1967) when Ibadan was capital of the old western region of Nigeria. It was among the fastest developing cities in Africa. It had the first sky scrapper, the first television and radio stations in Africa.
All this beauty was destroyed immediately as the Nigerian civil war began and the regions were split into different states and the states kept on being divided further by military dictators.
This is one reason why Nigerian cities look comparatively underdeveloped for their large populations.

Nigeria has really been through a lot.

genieluv:
Nah, we don't have a rugby team. Sad I wish we did.
Most Nigerians don't really care about such sports.

****Pls more of the rugby men pics (covers face)

Kenyans have rugby players that are facially ugly. Can u cope with that?

TayserMahiri:


Did Nigeria have a rugby team? I thought Nigerian men with their huge bodies would be awesome in Rugby

We do boxing n wrestling with our big bodies! How many professional boxers n wrestlers does kenya have?

TayserMahiri:
Spiritual powers From where?

You are asking such a question in Africa? Are u a white man?

genieluv:
lol, men and what if the wife few days later says she is no longer interested in the marriage?

Hahaha, not possible oo. I will have to flog her back

TayserMahiri:
That would make it more likely that the wife will be abused at home? I cant imagine the damsel threatening to leave me and go back home

For once, we have agreed on the same thing

TayserMahiri:

I would attend the wedding with a gun

Hahaha, i tot u were man enough? n i was the girly girl?
The good part of it is that after you have endured the flogging, you go home with a very pretty damsel like this one, to help nurse your wounds n the rest is history

genieluv, i can see that u are doing a good work teaching these Kenyans some culture (which they lack).
Hahahaha, teach them well.

Fulani culture of flogging a potential groom is very good for people like TayserMahiri, mtis, NairobiWalker, muafrika2 n co, since they call me a girl, they should be able to prove how manly they are

To call yourself man nor be for mouth. Na action!

Kenya VS Nigeria (men on suits)

NairobiWalker, TayserMahiri & mtis

genieluv come n see NairobiWalker, his girlfriend n their president (Kenyatta) . Kenyans r indeed 'beautiful'