fanficgirl: How come you were one of the first ones to comment on the handsome African American thread. And what do you mean mixed men are more handsome?
I meant African american people are more racially mixed, it's hard to find those of them that are 100 west African. Most are mixed.
9jakool: Cool, so you schooled in Ogun state? Yes I'm familiar with Idiroko. The area is a tripoint of 3 Yoruba subgroups: Awori, Yewa(Egbado) and Nago. Idiroko is in Ipokia lga and it's a Yoruba town of Nago subgroup. Idiroko literally translate to beneath the tree.
Actually Ilaje is very Yoruba, the reason why it sounds odd to you is because some of the words are a little different, but mainly the fact that it's spoken in a different intonation. It's a strange experience if you are not familiar. Some letters and sounds that are absent/simplified in general Yoruba are found in Ilaje like gh, kw, gw, kh, rh, en etc. The word for mouth in Yoruba is "enu" and "erhu" in Ilaje. Ilaje dialect like may other Eastern Yoruba dialects is closer to the original/ancient Yoruba. Standard Yoruba was based on an simpler dialects like Oyo and further simplified to make it easier for everybody to learn.
Maybe it's due to confusion, but in reality no one, except for Oyo/Ibadan peeps speak "Yoruba" natively. Even their Yoruba is slightly different from the Standard Yoruba. The vast majority of Yorubas like 90% have their own distinct dialects. Majority of Ilajes are fine being Yoruba. Some Ugbos of Ilaje would even claim they are the original Yoruba hence the Olugbo's controversial statements.
One of the claim some Itsekiri like to use to counter the claim that they are Yoruba is that their throne is from Benin because Ginuwa, their first king was sent from Benin. Yorubas use origin of ife throne to unite, even Akoko people use Ife Obaship throne. Itsekiri use Benin's. Language is definitely a unifying factor, but it's not the only.
That explains it then, she's mixed otherwise she wouldn't be claiming Fulani and Yoruba. It's not rocket science. No Yoruba would ever claim Fulani just for "prestige" unless he or she has Fulani blood flowing in his/her veins. Yorubas just recognize Fulani as a different ethnic group. You can ignore your maternal side all you want. Personally for me, you are no longer Yoruba the moment you start claiming something else. A Yoruba adage goes "Odo to ba gbagbe orisun re a gbe" meaning a river that forgets its origin, will surely dry up.
Na, I've actually never lived in any of those cities. I've been to many parts of the North though.
iblawi: The good part of the whole thing is that you don't have a working Refinery.
Secondly, you import petrol, diesel and others.
Thirdly, if 110,000 bpd only produce 5 million liters of petrol then 70000bpd would produce how many liters of petrol.
Fourthly, you are a liar.
Finally, Hopeless liars always become theives in life.
Chai, see finishig for Kenyans! Infact, this is a K.O (knockout), ding ding ding, game over for Nairobiwalker. Another Kenyan busted. Only 1 kenyan (Hbuyosh) left standing
Hati13: It isn't only Nigerians problems. I will quote what my fellow Ethiopian Aksumawi2085 said in another topic.
"I know right!sometimes when i see the chain of dark skinned africans bleaching to look lighter,lighter skinned ones claiming Arabian ancestry (HOA comes here),Arabs claiming south European,south European claiming north European...."
South Europeans claim North Europeans? Never heard of that! Most South Europeans are very proud of their beautiful Olive-tanned white skin tones and dark hair. Many make fun of the ghostly white Europeans as being too white!
Why do you think many whites are tanning their skins to look darker? You hardly hear of white people wanting to look whiter.
9jakool: Lol, why do you always come across people with identity crisis? Maybe that woman is Egun from Ajase, so it makes more sense if she says she is not Yoruba. Ajase is not an ethnic group, so I'm confused as to why she would say she is Ajase. Otherwise, it goes to show what I was talking about Beninese Yoruba not always recognizing that umbrella term. And what were you doing in Idiroko? How were you able to communicate with her seeing that she likely speak a different language/languages?
True about that politics, but the origin is still the strong underlying factor here. I think gradually, Yoruba is influencing the language.
Lol, I've lived in Ilorin from time to time. Maybe the lady is mixed which is understandable. Also, when I was Ilorin I notice that the native Ilorin population are outnumbered by other Yorubas from the rest of the state and neighboring states. There is no prestige in claiming Fulani, at least by Yorubas. Again why do you seem to meet people who have identity issues?
The Ilorin natives tend to practice conservative Islam. They are not bad people. The only major difference I notice in Ilorin is just more mosques Again the demograohics of Ilorin likely has more Yoruba migrants than native population. Because of this, there is a strong christian population in the city as well. Most of the indigines are concentrated in the older part of the city like Idi Ape and Oja Oba areas. Most people in Ilorin have Yoruba last name. The ones you are mentioning are not common, but they are prominent due to the Fulani aristocracy and history. Yorubas in Ilorin well outnumber the Fulani in folding margins. There are honestly more Nupes in Ilorin than Fulani. This is usually the case with Fulanis.
Ok, good to know
Hahaha No o, it's not as of i come across only those who deny their ethnicity. I have also come across many others from these places who are proud of their ethnicity. I am only stating the exceptions because they are exceptions.
About Ilorin, yes, yorubas from other yoruba states form the highest immigrant populations there, so of course, complete cultural yorubanization of the city is around the corner.
I went to Covenant university on my bros convocation and another bro of mine who went with me and travels to Benin republic a lot as a car dealer decided to take us to the border (Idiroko) and we decided to cross over the boundary into Benin to buy some stuffs (cos apparently they are cheaper). That was how i met the so called Ajashe speaking woman. Are you familiar with that boundary town in Benin republic? If yes, is it occupied by the Ajashes, Eguns or other yoruba groups?
Those Ilajes i was talking abt, i met them in Warri, and they could not speak central yoruba, except Ilaje and when i heard them speaking at first, i was confused what language that was because i studied yoruba in secondary school and know it a little, the language did not sound like yoruba but i could still hear some few yoruba words in it. And after asking them, they told me that what they are speaking is Ilaje and not yoruba and that they are not yorubas. I think the issues there was that they wanted to emphasize on how different their language was from Central yoruba cos i was emphasizing that their language is a yoruba dialect. It may be ignorance on their own part. Some people do not understand the concept of an ethnic group and dialects of an ethnic group. Most of these people i am referring to have never lived in yoruba hinterland and maybe the reason they have not understood that yoruba itself is a language cluster of many dialects, they feel anyone who is yoruba must speak the general known yoruba and they themselves do not speak it. This is exactly the case with many Itsekiris. If central yoruba had penetrated Itsekiri land, they would have had no issue claiming yoruba identity.
And that Ilorin gal, yes she was mixed, it's obvious, she's from the Bello family and their people intermarried hausa-fulanis a lot, she even speaks hausa. Those from the rich and aristocratic ruling emirate families of Ilorin are the ones who promote fulani and arewa identity mostly.
Many of the Ilorin families you find in the north will tell you they are proudly arewa. I understand this, it's probably just to fit into where they find themselves. Of they have been born and bred in Lagos or Ibadan, i bet they would have claimed omo yoruba.
Have you ever lived in any northern city? Like Kano, Kaduna, Jos, Zaria?
NairobiWalker: Good looks count a lot for men but don't take you much far. Money trounces everything. Women might drool over you for good looks but date one and she realizes you're broke ......that's it. Looks don't pay bills they'll say. Furthermore two guys chasing a girl - one handsome and broke, the other plain or even ugly and loaded - trust me the girl will choose the ugly loaded one. She might drool over the hot one but will date the ugly loaded one. That's perhaps the reason African men agree looks don't matter......but again, most good looking men tend to have money since good looks require resources to maintain.
The 'Ugliness excusers and explainers' have arrived again. Thank God a woman is now here to educate you guys.
iblawi: Kenyans are Hopeless liars they don't have a working Refinery.
Don't you guys get tired of lies.
One idiot was claiming they don't import fuel in kenya.
Lying is a culture for Kenyans. genieluv come and see how the Kenyans you admire are lying and getting busted. I myself have also exposed them so many times here. You just cannot trust 99% of whatever Kenyans tell you.
genieluv: Hooo¤¤ How am i confused? Most male celebs and sportsmen you see ladies crushing on and even fainting at their performances and sights, dontcha know that good looks is a major factor?
See someone like Fally ipupa, why'd u fink women love him so much? Good looks + Talent African men should stop deceiving themselves that good looks do not count for them. Hella does! **winks**
You really seem to like Fally Ipupa so much. Is he more handsome than me?
iblawi: After typing all the long rubbish you finally proved you know exactly what am saying in your last paragraph. Why are you this stupid.
If the guy can make mistake of claiming 19k instead of 19M why do you think he didn't make mistake of claiming 19 gallons as 9.5 gallons? COMMON SENSE IS NOT COMMON BRO.
Now let me educate you with a real occurrence and not what you read from anonymous person on blogs. Nigeria have 4 refineries which will make it a easy to compare actual production.
Portharcourt refinery have 210,000bpd capacity and produce 10 million liters of petrol per day if it works at full capacity.
Warri refinery 125,000bpd capacity produce 6.5 million liters of petrol per day if it works at full capacity.
Kaduna refinery 110,000bpd capacity produce 5 million liters of petrol per day if it works at full capacity.
So tell us how your 70,000bpd capacity will generate over 5 million liters of petrol per day.
Succintly put ! Very correct. That Nairobiwalker of a person display so much ignorance and lies.
Isahalbash: You r right...most of us spk kano hausa( myself even though rarely spk it)
Imagine sakkwatawa called sabulu "toka"
Exactly, they call groundnut guja instead of geda. Taho instead of Zo. Wanga instead of Wannan. Dare instead of girme Gobir hausa (rural sokoto) is even the worst. If they are talking u can barely understand anything.
Isahalbash: Nop... Akwai hausar Kano,Zaria, katsina etc... Kano Hausa is not standard Hausa. Standard Hausa are used in skuls and most int radio stations.
Example;- kano- miye, standard Hausa- menene . .......- yanda, ...................- yadda
You somehow have a point. But standard hausa is closer to Kano hausa than any other hausa dialect. Like 'i ce' instead of 'ni ne'. We don't use such but Kano people do.
genieluv: Kk na taba zauna a Jos, daidai Rayfield da lowcost. Idoma da Igede muna jin yaren juna kadan kadan, ama akwai bambancin sakanin mu. Nima bana jin yarena sosai fa saidai hausa da turanshi Ina da yawancin abokanai yan Jos kuma, yanmata ku ma suna da kyau
Toh, na gane yanzu. Na aika miki sakon, ko zaki amsa mn?
Ki koma kauyenki, kije ki koya yarenki, ko kinzama bahaushiya yanzu ne?
genieluv: kk good 2know. Many at times the media loves to blow things out of proportion than what they really are. Whhooo! Heard that Kenya exports flowers and tea and are among the top exporters of these commodities in the world. Wud like to know plz, agriculture or tourism, which sector is the biggest and driving force of kenyan economy?
Kenyan slums are not blown out of proportion. They are as bad as you see on the media. Many Kenyans are liars.
genieluv: hiiiiii, yah av watched this song. Di beats n dance steps are coool, even had it on my playlist. I thot it was a congolese music at first. nooops** don't speak french buh i understand little, like everyday tenses** do u?
knew lethal bizzle was british Ghanaian buh not Fuse odg? I thot he was fully Ghanaian. he doesn't sing like a british at all.
Yes, many Congolese and Ivorian musics sound similar.
Oui, Je parle français, mais pas tres bien (do you understand this)?
Yes, Fuse odg is british of Ghanaian ancestry, his musics are recorded in London mostly. But even me, i doubt he was born there, cos he doesn't speak british too. Maybe he was naturalized (not sure sha).
9jakool: Egun are not Yoruba, however many are so close and intertwined with Yoruba that some claim Yoruba. Ajase people are Yoruba of Anago subgroup. Ajase also has a significant Egun population. Many Eguns have taken on Yoruba cultural/religious spectacles like egungun.
Lol, that's just a myth that was invented him. It's not recognize in Yoruba mythology or by ifa. Most Ijebus don't even believe it. Ijebus have their own quarters in Ile-Ife. Obanta, the first Awujale led his people from Ile-Ife. When did Obanta became a Sudanese name? The Awujale likely made up the Sudan lies because he's a muslim. Come see the reaction of many Ijebus in the comments below lol. https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/
Nupes in Ilorin don't typically claim Yoruba. The very few Fulani that claim Yoruba are mixed. Also I've been to Ilorin countless of times and I didn't see that many Fulanis even with its reputation. Ilorin is Yoruba as it gets. I saw more Nupe than Fulani. For every Fulani I saw, there were 4 Nupes. I'm going to say with confident that Ilorin is 95% Yoruba. Yes, I still think Yoruba identity is based on origin more. By central Yoruba, I know you are referring to the Standard/common Yoruba. Central Yoruba actually refers to centrally located dialects like Ife, Ekiti,Akure Igbomina, and Ijesa. The common Yoruba language is actually based on the Western varieties like Oyo and Ibadan. Yes, the standard Yoruba helps unite Yoruba together, however it's not the sole cause of unity. The Itsekiri did not adopt it despite their language being closer to Yoruba than some Akoko communities. Why? Itsekiri don't claim direct descendant from Ile-Ife unlike most Akoko people. This is why I don't think it's just language alone, origin has a lot to do with it.
Most towns in Akoko don't speak Edoid languages. Many like Arigidi, Erusu speak a distinct language that is not exactly Edo or Yoruba, but has many similarities with Yoruba. TB Joshua for example is from Arigidi speaking community of Akoko and he's Yoruba as it gets. Some towns like Ikare Akoko(largesrt city in Akoko), Akungba and Oka Akoko speak a Yoruba dialect close to Owo or Ondo. There are some towns that speak Okun and Ekiti Yoruba dialects. There are other languages like Ukaan, Ahan, and Ahere etc. These languages are still very close to Yoruba and contain some elements of Yoruba. You also have your Edoid languages like Ukue and Ehueun in Edo speaking communities like Ipe Akoko, Epinmi. Many Edoid speaking communities have dual origin of Edo and Ife. Yes, every everyone speak the general Yoruba language to communicate with each other. Most towns in Akoko, have the Yoruba obaship political system, many celebrate Yoruba festivals as well as their own, they also practice the general Yoruba religious beliefs. Akoko community is very diverse but most identify as Yoruba. Do you consider Itsekiris as yorubas? I can't answer that exactly. Many Yorubas say Itsekiris are Yoruba. Eastern Yorubas like Ijebu, Remo, Ondo, and Ilaje will say they have no trouble understanding Itsekiri people. Ijebus like to say Itsekiri speak an old Ijebu language. Itsekiri often consider Ilaje as brothers and Ilaje is the closest Yoruba dialect to Itsekiri. Itsekiri have various origin myths many of which points to Yoruba origin. I've heard that some Itsekiris like Jakpa have a close affinity with Yoruba people.
Btw What Hausa dialect do you speak?
Ok, great explanation.
My first encounter with an Ajashe woman at across the Nigerian-Benin border after Idiroko and she told me that she was not a yoruba woman but Ajashe.
I have also come across many Ilaje and Okun people denying yoruba identity. What do you think?
As for Itsekiris, i think it is more or less a political divide. If the Itsekiris were part of Ondo state (South-west) for instance, i think they would have naturally claimed yoruba identity and adopted central yoruba as a lingua franca. I think another problem with itsekiri is that they are so much surrounded by Urhobos and Ijaws and they have also accepted Warri city as their cultural centre, hence easily gravitating towards pidgin as their lingua franca and the urban Niger-delta culture.
As for Ilorin, really the city is yoruba linguistically, but culturally i dont think so, but i think the problem is same thing like that of Kano, where prestige is attached to those who claim fulani due to fulanis constituting the ruling clans. I think many Ilorin people are confused, some i have met don't even know what tribe to claim, they claim they are Ilorin by tribe . Another Ilorin lady i met, she claims fulani and yoruba interchangeably at her will. Most Ilorins also tend to be very islamic and fanatic like hausa-fulanis. Another thing is that i think many Ilorins might have been fulani or nupe by origin, but they have been yorubanized because you can still see their surnames to be hausa/fulani surnames or a corruption. Like the Sarakis, the Gambaris, the Belgores, the Kawus, the Alimis, Jiddas e.t.c
Most people from Jos, Southern Kaduna, Niger and other 2nd language hausa speakers speak a unique kind of hausa which is an offshoot of Zaria hausa (Zazzaganci), but due to acceptance of a more standard central hausa and Kannywood, all based on Kano dialect, most Zaria people are now shifting to Kano dialect.
So, i'd say the hausa i speak is closer to old Zaria dialect, but it is now unique. It is the easiest form of hausa.
Isahalbash: Rugby Wey node pass 20mins...the only difference btw rugby players and wrestlers, is d jersey.
Hahaha, abi o? Those rugby guys look like people on steroids just like wrestlers I have always challenged Kenyans here to tell me how much their so called rugby generates for Kenyan economy, but they go mute.
genieluv: Hehehe i don't write hausa very well, so manage to read my poor written hausa
Ee, kwarai da gaske ni idoma ne. Ina zauna a Barnawa a Kaduna. Kai dan ina ne? Kuma ban yarda da abinda ka fada gabadaya, kawa na tafi ni kyau, ita ma daga Benue ama ita Igede ne ba idoma. Zai dace in ka ce wei dukan mu yanmata Benue, muna da kyau
Kinyi kokari mana. Nima ban iya rubuta hausa sosai kamar wadanda aka koya masu a makaranta.
Toh, na yarda, duk yanmata Benue kunada kyau. Kinyi farin chiki yanzu? Ni dan Jos ne, ama nayi girma a Kudu. Kin taba zauna a Jos? Kuma ni dama, ina ce wei Idoma da igede dukansu daya ne, ko bahaka ba?
genieluv: hooo, great Buh u sure there is 24 hours electricity all over Kenya even in all the villages? Just curious, what is the total kenyan electricity capacity in mw? That first picture tho, the road network looks very cool.
Kenya is beautiful, but they have terrible eyesores, more terrible than Nigeria's. Dont let them make you believe that the country is all that, cos it's not.
genieluv: Lmao <<true>> African americans and their ruddy mouths . Tho, not all of them talk like that i think, it is mostly those that grew up in those their hoods. Hav met with some who really beahve well n are very cultured.. I suspect their middleclass peeps. Do yu live in the states?
Kk seems like we love same artistes . I also love Ghanaian Fuse odg and Lethal bizzle and South African Cassper nyovest like hellllll.
Buh my best of all remains this Ivorian singer 'Serge Beynaud', do you know him? He is currently ranked as the best francophone artiste in Africa, he beat Fally Ipupa and Dj arafat to the last awards. I also find him to be the most handsome African artiste.
Fuse Odg and Lethal bizzle are British citizens of Ghanaian origin. They are not based in Ghana but UK. I like their music too.
I also like Serge Beynaud. Do you understand french? Cos he sings only in French. Have you watched/listen to this music of his? I think this is one of his best.
9jakool: Yes Porto-Novo was founded by Yoruba. It was a strong vassal/ally state of Oyo. Porto-Novo is a Portuguese word meaning New Port similarly to Lagos. The original name was Ajase-Ile. The city historically accommodated many Egun/Gun migrants from the West. Till today, it also accomodates ethnic groups accross the country like Fon and others because of its official administration role. I'll estimate that there are 2-3 million Yoruba indigines in Benin republic. I'll estimate that there are 500,000 Yoruba indigines in Togo. I'll also estimate an additional 500,000 or so Yoruba migrants from Nigeria living in those countries.
Thanks for letting me know! Hausa has varieties too like Yoruba. In the Akoko area of Ondo, there are dozens of "dialects" that are so far from the Standard/General Yoruba. Some of those "dialects" are so unique that an average Oyo man can't even pick up 10% or even 5% of some of them. In Akoko, each town speaks its own "dialect"which maybe completely different from the next town over. Language isn't even the most unifying factor for Yoruba. i think it's shared history, beliefs, origin, and strong attachment to Ile-Ife
Okay. Interesting.
Do you consider Egun and Ajashe people to be yorubas? Some claim to be yorubas, others reject yoruba identity. What do you think?
You once said that Yorubas are not united by language but origin. Apparently, The Awujale of Ijebu once said that Ijebu people do not have Oduduwa roots. Many Ondo and Lagos towns also have Edo origins and not Ife origins. Many Ilorin people have fulani/nupe origins. What can u say? I think yoruba unity is more or less based on language (central yoruba) than culture or origins (i may be wrong though)
And in Akoko axis of Ondo, there are many towns there that still speak native Edo languages, even though they now speak yoruba as a 2nd language, as i heard. Are you aware?
freshest4live: She loves muscles l think no matter what the face looks like. For us guys, it's almost universal that we are drawn to only certain features in ladies.. Facial features,then Front and Back of course. For a lady it's sometimes difficult to fathom..Some treasure height above anything else, for others colour of the skin, and for many like genie, it's muscle. Most don't even care at all, if cash can make up for what is lacking at least. But l'll stop here lest l digress..
True, most ladies will still prefer pocket-endowedness above every other feature.
genieluv: Kk hiiii, cos if you had said the world, i would hav screamed what about African american guys? Those guys are the hottest in the world .jeeee! True, Nigerian men should be the most handsome in Africa, buh i don't know why i don't crush on most Nigerian male musicians. I tend to crush on male celebs from other African countries more often. Like Fally Ipupa of Congo, Tanzanian Alikiba and many others ***What bout you?**
Fally Ipupa and Alikiba are talented artistes, i like them too. Are you saying you don't like or crush on Nigerian male artistes at all?
genieluv: Yah i speak hausa, why do you ask? I am from Benue state but grew up in Kaduna.
Yar'uwa na. Na tambaye ki saboda in san ko ke assalin yar Kaduna ne Ina ne a Kaduna kina zauna? Na san guraren Kaduna sosai. Keh idoma ko? Don na san cewa yan matan idoma sune suna da kyau irin naki . Ama in keh ba idoma ne, karki ji haushi da abinda na fada, kin ji?
obaaderemi: Black South Africans and kenyans play good rugby.But in Nigeria,football gives no other sport a chance.Rugby is not popular in nigeria although big muscular men abound.We just love the 'beautiful game' too much.
True. I don't think Nigerians can ever love another sport like football no matter how hard anybody tries. We are stuck with football for life
9jakool: I think education is needed before some pan-Yoruba unification. You can't work on unification if there are still Yorubas who aren't aware of native Yoruba subgroups in other countries.
My field is science related, but I still like history and culture nonetheless.
Yorubas in those countries recognize their individual sovereignty before identifying as Yoruba. However I think some groups like Ketu, Anago and Sabe recognize both their sovereign identity and the umbrella identity at the same time since they border Nigeria. In Benin republic census, the subgroups are classified as individuals and also group under the Yoruba banner. In Togo's census the Yoruba groups are classified as individual ethnic groups. To summarize, the Yoruba in Benin use the term more than those in Togo.
Standard/written Yoruba language from Nigeria is based from Oyo and Ibadan dialects. The de facto standard-dominant-media dialect in Benin is the Anago dialect from Porto-Novo which is actually close and mutually intelligible to the standard Yoruba of Nigeria. The standardized dialect of Togo is the Ana-Ife dialect which is very different from that of Nigeria and has a different writing system.
As for Hausa, I want to ask how much of the Hausa (percentage) from Niger can you understand because I tell you that some Yoruba dialects are impossible to understand by most.
As for the bolded, I also think the problem is most Yorubas in Nigeria are not as connected to those in Togo and Benin. However, a very small percentage of Yorubas surprisingly are connected to those countries especially those along the boarder. Western Ogun and Western Lagos state is where you can see this at best. The town of Idiroko, Ogun state is actually on the border and is both located in Naija and Benin. People in those areas regularly cross borders to trade and visit families. When the French and British split Yorubaland, they also split across families. Many people on the Nigerian boarders in Ogun state have relatives residing in Benin republic and vice versa. Ipokia in Ogun state is an Anago town and the same Anagos are found in Ifagni(Ifonyi) and Porto Novo(Ajase-ile) in Benin. Yorubas in Imeko Afon Lga in Ogun are of Ketu subgroup and the same Ketu-Yoruba are found in Ketu town, Idigny(Idiyin) across the border in Benin. The Alaketu of Ketu once said that his people watch Ogun state television instead of the Benin rep state tv just because the Ogun state tv broadcast in Yoruba compare to the Benin state tv which broadcasts only in French. Some Yoruba in Benin along the border can even speak English.
Interesting.
Truly, enlightenment will go a long way. I was surprised when i heard that Porto-novo (capital of Benin republic) was owned by yoruba speakers.
How many million yorubas can you estimate in Benin republic & Togo?
As for Hausa, if Sokoto (western hausa) people speak rural sokoto, those of us 2nd language speakers can pick only like 25% or less. While 1st language western hausa speakers may pick like 40% or less. But urban Sokoto which has mixed with Central hausa a lot is like 20% higher in understanding compared to the rural ones.
In Niger republic, this understanding reduces with like 20%. So, i only understand like 15% of what they are saying. Infact, it doesn't really make any sense unless you listen deeply before you can make any sense out of it. Infact, the first day i came across Nigerien people speaking hausa, i tot they were speaking another language like Zarma or Buzu. I only knew they were speaking hausa because some Sokoto neighbours of mine who could flow with Niger hausa jjoined the conversation with them.
We once had some Hausa Niger family friends and no matter how these people tried to switch to Central hausa, i still could only understand half of what they were saying to me.
The difference is much.
I think i made a thread about the different dialects of hausa some time ago. Here is it, try to go through it.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 10:56pm On May 28, 2017
