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genieluv:
True dat rugby is a white dominated sport buh i think we have some black countries that play rugby. I think some carribean countries do. South Africa, Kenya too

Hahaha. Somebori cannot like Anthony Joshua in peace again?

Heyoo, i never said that i admire only muscular guys ho. They are just pleazin to the female eyes. Every lady admires them tooo++.

So you admire Kenyan and SA rugby players? Don't they look facially ugly to you compared to Nigerian faces?

Wait a sec, i have never seen a lady who watches rugby or any sports. Do you?

genieluv:
Yah, i live in Kd, buh am now in Abuja.

Do you speak hausa? Are you from Kaduna?

9jakool:
True in some case. I think the Nomadic ones are still a significant bunch of the Fulani population and are responsible for the unity. Urban Fulanis who settle down are more likely to loose aspects of their culture easily though. The true remains as long as you have a significant Fulani nomads, the unifying factor is still fortified even if there are town Fulanis. Fulani nomads don't really recognize political boarders since they are nomads and yes westernization is linked with it. Imagine a scenario where there are no more nomadic Fulanis and they all settled in towns and all became educated in Western education and they are politically/culturally separated from other Fulanis for 150 years. Do you think the unifying factor will be the same as it is today?

It might not be as strong as it is today, but it will still be stronger than other tribes.
Fulanis just seem to be very smart people, and power hungry too.
You could imagine how they dominated Cameroon politically for decades with just about 10% of the population of the country.

genieluv:
I don know buh am not sure. First of all i am a christian and most of them are muslims and that disqualifies first. Cultural difference is also a huge prob. I don't find skinny guys attractive and most of them are skinny (like our president)

The way other sub saharan african (non horner) men look. Like Idris Elba or Gbenro Ajibade. Or black rugby players or boxers like Anthony Joshua
That's my definition of masculinity.

Black rugby players? Where do you find them? Rugby is a white sport. You hardly find black people playing rugby.

Why did so many girls start crushing on Anthony Joshua since he won Klitschko? hardly before then

Seems like you admire only muscular guys?
Many women and later when the muscular guy tests his muscles on their pretty face, they cry domestic violence. Smh.

I go with OBO

D A V I D O

@9jakool

You made some strong points about cultural unification though.
All hausas are united culturally compared to Yorubas and Akans. (thanks to Danfodio).

But hausas in Niger i think have a different culture to an extent, they were never conquered by fulanis and never intermixed with fulanis as such. The term hausa-fulani is absurd in Niger republic.

Also, i think the town fulanis form the majority of fulanis in the entire West Africa. The nomadic ones i think are in minority and these town and educated fulanis are even the ones in charge of the international unions and not the nomadics who are predominantly illiterate. ....So i don't think the nomadic nature is much of an excuse.

I think another problem with the Akans and Yorubas is too much westernization compared to the fulanis....so, most are not interested in tribal identification or superiority or unity as such.....those in Nigeria definitely had to unite i think with the help of the colonial masters and greater desire to assert as a majority and powerful group in Nigeria.

9jakool:
I don't understand your definition of smartest.
In Nigeria too, Hausa are being overshadowed by the Fulanis in politics under the Hausa-Fulani banner, but that's a different subject matter.

I think the situation is extremely complex than that.
You need to understand that the importance of perspectives and political alliance.
Hausas are found in Niger and Nigeria. However you have to realize Niger was colonized by French and Nigeria was a British colony. In reality these people have been cut off from each other politically and ideologically for more than a century. The same case can be made from Akan. Ghana was a British colony and Ivory Coast was a French colony. For Yorubas, Nigeria was a British colony, Benin Rep. was a French colony, Togo was both ruled by the Germans and French. I'm not saying colonialism is the culprit here, even though it played a big role. I am saying that the different colonial forces affected the perspectives of these people. Take Togo for example, Yorubas in Togo are more connected to Yorubas in Benin more because they were both French colony and they use French as a second language. In a way, the colonial forces have shaped the identity of these people in their respective country.

Fulanis are the exception in this case because their of their nomadic culture which is different from most West African groups. Naturally, nomadic people travel from country to country and aren't affected by political boarders unlike Agriculturalist settled groups like Hausa.
My next point is culture and the heterogeneous nature of these groups.

Even with the political differences, Hausa in Niger are more connected to Hausa in Nigeria than Akan in Ivory Coast-Ghana and Yoruba in Nigeria-Benin-Togo. Why? cultural differences. I'm aware that some cultural/dialect differences exist between Hausas, but compare to the Akan or Yoruba, those differences are mild. Yoruba like Akan is an umbrella term for numerous historically independent groups. Even in Nigeria, a Yoruba man from from Oyo would have a little difficulty understanding a Yoruba man from Ijebu if they were to speak their respective dialects. Both of them would have an even more difficult time understanding a Yoruba man from Arigidi in Ondo. It isn't just the differences in dialects, it's just the most noticeable cultural difference. An Oyo man with a more inland/upland culture will be different to the riverine/costal cultures of groups like Ilaje or Ijebu. Even with those strong differences, Yorubas in Nigeria are still very united. This heterogeneous nature extends to those in Benin and Togo. The Yoruba umbrella identity seems to be less prominent in those countries with Togo being the least. In Benin rep and Togo, Yoruba subgroups like Anago, Ketu, Idasa, Ije, and Sabe are more likely to answer/recognize Yoruba identity than groups like Isa, Manigri, and Ife-Ana. Why? Because groups like Ketu and co are closer to the Nigerian border, they use oba political system, and most importantly recognize the Oduduwa deity, one of the most important unifying factor. Other Yorubas groups like Isa, Manigri, Ife-Ana, are found on the Western border of Benin and central Togo. These groups are the farthest away from Yorubas in Nigeria, and don't even know or recognize oduduwa. These groups were very independent to the point that they don't have kings (obas). Shocking right? This just goes to show the heterogeneous nature.

It's very complicated than black or white. I need to create a thread for this lol.

Hmmmmm..........
Very enlightening piece.
Seriously, i'd advice you to work on this unification if you can in your most possible way. Your knowledge on this thing will go a long way.

What field are you into if i may ask?

Do these yoruba subgroups in Togo and Benin identify as Yorubas?

Talking about dialectal difference, i speak hausa fluently and believe me, the hausa dialects of Niger republic are very very different from most in Nigeria to a large extent. Even in Nigeria, people from Kaduna, Kano, Bauchi, e.t.c do not understand Sokoto people if they speak, unless Sokoto people switch to central hausa.

This is the same thing with Niger republic hausa being far more different. Just that due to the influence of Kano dialect in radios which the BBC, Radio france and others have helped to promote and through trade, most other hausas have learnt to speak Kano dialect.

I think the problem with yorubas is less contact btw those in Togo, Benin and those in Nigeria, compared to Hausas in Niger whom millions of them come to Nigeria and trade with Nigerians.

WIZGUY69:
But seriously Bro...
Centenary city got nothing on EKC..
Location matters... Most area around Centenary city are still virgin... While that of Ekc are filled up already (talking about VI and the likes)... so the highest bidder wins the game..another thing Is the nature factor.. (beach).. again the government of the day.. it's a known fact that Lagos state government are serious about EKC to see the light of the day compared to FG & Centenary... after seeing the plan of Centenary city.. there's nothing extraordinary about it... But there's on EKC My two cents

Half of Eko atlantic is also surrounded by coastline.
And Eko atlantic will be smaller than CT city.

CT city will be close to Abuja world trade centre in CBD...

Eko atlantic started a longer time ago, so, expect it to have a headstart.

genieluv:
Holly most horn African and fulani men do look good facially, buh i just don't know, they usually appear very feminine to me at times ** ** ....typically unlike other African men who look very masculine.

Hmm, So are you saying that you cannot date or marry a fulani or Horn African man if approached by one?

What is your definition of masculinity?

genieluv:
holly, going back through this thread.




Seems like you guys have fought and settled at different times goodiiii. **** I have come across a sudanese family in Kaduna and yah those guys can easily pass for Hausas and fulanis.
Those guys told me that there are many Sudanese of Nigerian (hausa) descent and i discovered it was true.
I really can't speak for Somalis, buh Ethiopians i think, yah. A cousin of mine schooled with and befriended loads of them and looking at the photos, i think some of them can pass for fulanis.

Exactly what i said but many here disputed, so i had to prove to them wrong.
Yes, apparently, there are hausas in Sudan but i think they have beeb hausanized. I don't think they still speak hausa any more.

Do u live in Kaduna?

genieluv:
Fulanis are united and smart, yes, but they are also at a disadvantage from what i see.
So, no need to hype them.
Most fulanis in Nigeria are loosing their language and culture to hausa (becoming hausanized).
I also heard that in Mali, fulanis are loosing their language and culture to Bambara, likewise in Senegal where many fulanis have adopted wolof.

You have a point but i don't think that stops them from acknowledging their own ethnicity and uniting.

WIZGUY69:
Eko Atlantic will be more beautiful!..
I have been to the two... in fact, the progress of EKC... has no rival

Yes, and that is probably because Eko atlantic has started long ago. You cannot judge Centennary city by the progress alone.
I think you should judge by the plan/rendition.

Muafrika2:
They may also see it is more profitable to live outside Francophone. Rwanda did just that. Though I believe it was easier for her because France never really colonised her like the rest of Francophone.

Exactly.
Francophone West Africans seem too timid to take their destinies into their own hands.
The french hold on them is too strong. Coupled with that, most of them might feel they are too small without much rescources, arid and landlocked nations to take their destinies into their own hands.

I was so ashamed and sorry for black Africans the day i watched the clip were all Malians were cheering and worshipping French forces for liberating them from those Tuareg militants.
The french appeared as heroes and Saviours for a problem (they the french) also caused.......now tell me why you think these people will ever want to leave France? When the french have made most of them see france as their only helpers and saviours?

vaxx:
togo presidential aspirant olympio develop a strong way to curb out the influence of france. hopefully if he win the next election he may implement it. i just pray his story will not end like gbabgo who try it it first.

Let's hope and pray so.

Just30:
for the first time, I've agreed with you on something

Chai Chali, tok tru abeg

vaxx:
it depends on how strong nigeria or ghana economy will be . This is the truth about 14 french colony cot dvoire ,senegal and togo is inclusive. The reason for France agreement to African demands for independence in the 1960s is france has carefully organised its former colonies into(CFA countries) in a system of “compulsory solidarity” which consisted of obliging the 14 African states to put 65% of their foreign currency reserves into the French Treasury, plus another 20% for financial liabilities. This means these 14 African countries only ever have access to 15% of their own money! If they need more they have to borrow their own money from the French at commercial rates! And this has been the case since the 1960

France has the first right to buy or reject any natural resources found in the land of the Francophone countries. So even if the African countries can get better prices elsewhere, they can’t sell to anybody until France says it doesn’t need the resources. In the award of government contracts, French companies must be considered first; only after that can these countries look elsewhere. It doesn’t matter if the CFA countries can obtain better value for money elsewhere.Presidents of CFA countries that have tried to leave the CFA zone have had political and financial pressure put on them by successive French presidents. Just like olympio of togo and gbagbo of ivory coast.

Na wa o, what bondage.

How can they ever be liberated?

fanficgirl:
It's impossible for them to be now

True.

We can't help but admit the fact that fulanis seem to be the smartest ethnic group among the large ethnic groups of west Africa.
Fulanis have international cultural unity groups accross West Africa.

Hausas are the largest tribe in Niger republic and a majority in Nigeria, yet no international unity, Zarmas are even dominating the hausas politically in Niger republic.

Akans are the majority in Ghana and Ivory coast, yet no international ethnic unity, maybe Just30, lethalbeast or vaxx can explain this for us.

Yorubas are a strong force in Benin republic and even Togo, but no cultural solidarity btw the Nigerian and non-Nigerian yorubas @obaaderemi, 9jakool

But fulanis from over 10 different West and Central African nations have international unity groups.

freshest4live:
When l complain about the French colonial stronghold in Africa which is largely the fault of our African leaders, some take it lightly. This video from Sahara reporter Adeola in 2014, on a former Burkinabe president is quiet touching.
https://www.google.de/url?q=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Doc-wLOipffY&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjZ6ozM2o_UAhVFCywKHYZZA2MQtwIICzAA&sig2=8AeNcGBdyu0T4pfg95Bj8g&usg=AFQjCNGKYjA8c5aAyg3m0tHDrxnR8OtcTQ

Seriously, Thomas Sankara is the best leader west Africa ever had.
If he had control over a country like Nigeria for a long time, west Africa would have been a world power region by now....
Yes he was killed by the French and Ivorian forces who will never want to see Black africans liberated.

vaxx:
this was the reason french millitary disguise like ivorian army and fought laure gbagbo election when he refused to pay france their usual kick back. La cote d'voire and most of the french colony are still under france adminisration indirectly.

Nigeria and maybe Ghana can beat French influence in West Africa as soon as our economies become very powerful enought to challenge France.

obaaderemi:
Just imagine.She just rushed ahead to post that nonsense and was calling the kenyans without reading your original post.hmm.

fanficgirl probably has ulterior motives.
She is looking for a Kenyan boo to please

fanficgirl:
Theyhave a strong hold in Guinea

You see, Mandé people are the greatest threat to fulani expansionism in West Africa.

If only Mandé people were united, they would have been the greatest force to reckon with in West Africa

Just30:
yes

Interesting.
Has any work started? Is it in greater accra region? What is the size in km²?

fanficgirl:
Theyhave a strong hold in Guinea

Yes, but Mande people keep on dominating them politically in Guinea.
Same with Cameroon, fulanis are the largest single tribe there, but they have lost power forever.

fanficgirl:
Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqxMIfd-odc
Start at 7:51 and bow your head in shame
@muafrika2 @taysermahiri @Hati13 free entertainment

Do most of those people look like enlightened Nigerians to you?

ArtanK:
That's right. It was abolished in the 70s. It was a good decision, but we should have used one of our many scripts instead of using the Latin one. Most young Somalis don't speak Arabic either. The only reason why I speak it is because of my parents who are both fluent in it.

I never knew of indigenous Somali scripts. Which ones?

kikuyu1:
You'll find it shocking but Tutsis had planned to RULE AFRICA!! This I was told by 3rd parties including an active CIA agent,a Congolese General who was in the Bush with Kabila Sr, a Burundese Tutsi and a Ugandan researcher. Do you remember one time the REF had actually invaded the CAR? Apparently they've identified both their own and locals to serve them as colonial style viceroys while they were to be the continental overlords for the Anglo Zionists. They even had their agents in Bots! That plan imo was REAL. The Bagenda are offside politically due to long-standing positions they took prior to uuhuru when they insisted the Perez must be the kabaka and nobody else. Snice seizing power M7 has cut them down to size.
I found this all unbelievable but since 2001 when I first investigated it I've found it to be the truth. Don't just rely on me-find out the meaning of ugapfuruba. You'll be shocked! BUT DON'T ASK A TUTSI OUTRIGHT!

This seems almost the same way the fulanis planned to rule West Africa. But they have failed in Senegal, Guinea, Cameroon, e.t.c Nigeria and Gambia seems to be their stronghold now.

Just30:
first of all, it's not a political or state project

It's private sector driven?

Isahalbash:
When they finished killing demselves nd see no one to kill, dere brains go reset... All Na mumu dey worry Dem. Why r dey not fighting again in Jos?

Fight nor dey taya pesin ni? Bodi nor be fayawood na

Most christians and muslims no longer live together, so, chances of fracas are rare.

68816419:
damn u man,
damn u man,
damn u man,how can you say that, every body knows that kano,kaduna,Gombe,bauchi, sokoto have better infrastructure than any southern States except rivers,uyo,Enugu and calabar

Mostly only the capital cities in these states have any good infrastructure and these states are very very big in size compared to your average Southern states.

Why do you think the per capital incomes of northern states are so low compared to the non-oil producing southern states??

popizaino:
you are either berom or angas

LoL, Berom are 95-99% christians, while Ngas are like 75-80% christians.
And these are just 2 out of the approx 50 ethnic groups in Plateau state.
Nice try though

forgiveness:
Work is already going on there but slowly due to the issue btw the FCTA and the developer which has to do with authority.

The developers wants full authority but the FCTA point out that such wasn't included in the agreement.

The issue of compensation for resettlement money that...


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The project is currently under progress, Phase 1b grading works is almost completed, the contractor is ‎completing all snags at the moment. The master plan design is progressing and It may be difficult to tell you when the actual infrastructure will be in place as this depends on the design specifications.


Some information I got from emailing them.


This one of the quote from skyscrapercity


The picture is also gotten from skyscrapercity. You can notice the roads and the cranes.

Ok.
Is the centennary city under AMAC LGA?

CT city and Eko atlantic, which would cost more and which do you think will be better and more powerful?

It seems like CT city is far bigger than Eko atlantic. Or not?

Isahalbash:
D 3rd is Arab Nigeria I cant view d 2nd but dat 1st is an Ethiopian... The last one I don't recognise her;P

All were Nigerian except the 2nd who was Somali

I told ya, they can all be mistaken for each other.