₦airaland Forum

leathalbeast:
Lagos state size 3577 sq km 22% of it is water while greater Accra region is 3245 sq km. so what are you talking about?

The entire Lagos state is urbanized and urbanisation has entered the neighbouring Ogun state.
Is the entire greater Accra region 100% urbanized?

Oxtonguy:
Built by the Arabs not Kenyans. It not your traditional building https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamu_Island mumu boy claiming Arab tradition

Don't mind the ignorant thieves.

GERALD710:
There are places in Kenya that stay below 10 degrees all year round. Day or night.

Ok, are they cities or towns?

GERALD710:
Ha it ever snowed in Northern Nigeria?
In Kenya, it occasionally happens and do note, we are on the Equator.
The average yearly temperature of Nairobi is 19 degrees celcius, for places Like Timboroa, Upper Lugari, Kinogngop, and the likes, it is around 10 degrees,all year round

Does it snow in the sahara desert?
The coldest periods in northern Nigeria are the dry seasons when we go for months without any rain.
It takes rain + freezing cold to make snow, doesn't it?

Eastern Africa has more highlands than west Africa.

Joonana:
what are the cities and towns in Lagos state ?

Lagos city, Lekki city, Ikeja city and Ikorodu city are all considered independent cities within Lagos state.
Towns are Badagry, Ojo, Epe, Apapa

GERALD710:
In Kenya, temperatures fall to between 6 and 18 degrees in the Highlands between June and late August. Even now, some places are already cool

Northern Nigeria is very close to the Sahara and at the peak of winter periods, nightimes go as cold 3°c.
The same thing with Plateau state and Mambilla plateau in central Nigeria. In the latter, the temp never exceeds 22°c all year round.

NairobiWalker:
Why are you guys so jealous? lol.

Abuja is too artificial. No soul. Abuja is the African Brasilia.

How do you mean?

GERALD710:
22 degrees is our definition of 'warm'
Many parts of Kenya reach even 6 degrees

Many parts of Nigeria reach 3- 6°.
The season and time is what matters.

vaxx:
the issue is that. abidjan buiding has lot of french architecture and design. Making it look like extention of france. Lagos too also has her own beauty but it is so center around the wealthy residence. You can imagine a local goverment like ikorodu ,epe are terrible. I belive in general
development. i willl love to visit kenya some day . my liberian girlfriend tell me a lot about nairobi. her mum works there，accra is not perfect anyway.much need to be done.

It's unreasonable to compare very small Accra to Lagos state. Even Abuja municipality is far bigger than Accra.
Lagos is a state of different cities and towns together.

uzzyfire:
wat is jos seasons ? wat time of d year does it get extremely cold and very hot

November to early March, it gets very cold, while december and January are almost freezing.
No matter how hot Jos is, it hardly exceeds 32°.

All year round, night time and early morn temperatures in Jos must drop below 19°.
See this week's forecast for Jos below... ...Surprisingly, Port harcourt is sometimes even cooler than Jos during the rainy seasons.

NairobiWalker:
Were we arguing about size or the quality of lives? Please be straightforward and stop shifting goals.

Why are you so scared of comparing Nairobi's districts with Lagos' govt areas?

Isahalbash:
Your last paragraph... Na wetin I wan hear bdat. Hahahaha... I no mention any state name u don de para kaduna belongs to gbayis but na stil core north e de Ai and Abuja na fct no b wuna get am lolz!



If u could recalled...most northerners were happy wen Gej made d late Ado Bayero's son d emir, despite de don't like Gej then, but wen kwankwaso declined it nd md SLS d emir dey started a riot. Do you know y? Just because sls had an issue wit sheikh Ja'afar nd sls is not part of Dem. So de tamed him a " shi'ite" jst to deceive dere gullible followers. Till today, daz d reason dey kip attacking Sls notin else.

Don't forget that Lagos was once FCT too.

Besides, Abuja is massively developing into Nasarawa and Niger states and very soon Karu LGA/ Nasarawa west will be more urbanised than Kano state.
Karu in Nasarawa is now estimated to be have 1-2 million inhabitants, whereas 10 years ago, it was just villages. Middlebelters are getting richer from sales of lands, even within the FCT.
So, Abuja is like the biggest thing that ever happened to middlebelt people.

Kaduna is not entirely core-north pls. Middlebelt identity and agitation is not limited to north-central. Southern kaduna people have always identified as middlebelters since the old northern region.

NairobiWalker:
Lamu old town.

You guys are boasting about Lamu and Mombasa old towns that were built by Arabs, Indians and Persians?

Why not show us the ones built by Kikuyus, Luos, Kalenjins, Luhyas or better still masais? Nonsense.

NairobiWalker:
Again, you expose your illiteracy.

1. Is it suburbs and neighborhoods you wanted us to compare or towns? Nairobi is a city and its divided into neighborhoods. You wanted us to compare where people live, I gave you those places now you've changed goals - you want towns. Is Lagos divided into towns? Sometimes it's good to hide your stupidity.

2. Do you want to see where Kenyans live or you want to argue about city administration? You're a confused fellow. Different cities are administered differently. Nairobi city is under the Nairobi County Government - the whole of it. Nairobi's districts are simply governing boundaries there's no uniformity of standards of living within a single district. Karen for instance is in the same district with Kibera. You can't use districts to show where the lower middle class of Kenya lives. Some neighborhoods may have their own localized governing bodies that come up from a special arrangement amongst residents but such arrangements are not part of the national structure. It thus seems you're clearly scared considering you're using an excuse that has no relation to the quality of homes that you initially wanted to compare to get out of the comparison.

Conclusion - you're a troll.

Yes! Much of Lagos state is divided into towns. All these places developed simultaneously and merged together with to form the mighty Lagos urban area.

And stop giving flimsy excuses about different nairobi districts having populations of different income classes. This is also the same case with lagos state urban areas.
Some Lagos towns have people of different income classes living together.

I decline comparison because it is insane to compare Lagos suburban towns of millions of people, to Kenyan estates with a few thousand people. It's just like comparing Nairobi to west Africa.

If you have some senses, you would know that only Nairobi's districts can compare Lagos suburban towns and local govt areas.

Isahalbash:
Agreed d north x backward...how dos dat stops Mb from progressing? Besides, are u not dsame pesin shouting abt development in Lagos, Abuja, ph city etc... Kwara, Benue, Niger, kogi, Jos and Nasarawa r not even beta Dan some of d backward northern states.


Wen churches are burnt nd christians r killed in Jigawa state, then u can attack nd say; " my people r intolerance and wateva," but for now- stop bn presumptuous.

Both yorubas and any tribe in d north, we do pray in dsame mosque weda a Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri, Ebira, Igala, Gbayi or Nupe is d Imam. Lastly, My people r not extremist, u can direct ur question to d boko haram and d ahlu sunnah members y de r calling odaz fake muslims( hope u knw yorubas nd ur saint Mb Muslims r also members of ahlu sunnah?), besides, did u see me supporting d foolishness of Zamfara state governor nd those who hv his myopic views?

I am talking abt Abuja? Is Abuja not in the middlebelt? Is it in the core-north?
Yes, middlebelt states may not be very urbanised because we had no ancient cities and did not control the administrative cities of old northern region, but look at our literacy rates, we are almost catching up with the south. Our people are rapidly coming out of poverty. And education came to all northerners (core-northernerd and middlebelters) the same time. Why then have the middlebelt people made much more progress than your own people who dominated the leadership of the old northern region and even the entire Nigeria?

Apart from the ancient Kano city, can you show me any other Hausa-fulani or Kanuri city in the core-north that is better than Jos?
Don't even dare mention Kaduna city because most of that city belongs to Gbagyis (Southern kaduna people) who are part and parcel of the middlebelt.

And you can imagine that even the Kano state with the mighty Kano city has 70% of it's citizens living in extreme poverty.
The middlebelt state with the highest poverty rate is better than the core-northern state with the lowest poverty rate.

It's a good thing however that you are one of the few educated core-northerners with positive thinking and mindset, but it's so sad that majority of your people are a direct opposite of you.
Core-northern leaders and elites have succeeded in creating a society where there a very rich few educated elites and poor uneducated masses!

Many middlebelt and yoruba muslims may join all manners of islamic groups or be muslim fanatics in their hearts, but they always find it very difficult to express this fanatism outside in the open, because they are more educated and found themselves in liberal community settings that frown on religious extremism.

mtis:
an what do you call this .the Mighty Lagos. Your city does not have slums its a slum

This is Makoko and it is the only full slum in Lagos state of 21 million people.

Hbuyosh:
Stop questioning how our govt could allow this as though the situation is any better in your country. Nigeria has oil. Why is it not as developed as the other oil producing countries? How dis that happen?

because of our extremely large population.

TayserMahiri:
Nairobis GDP per capita is larger than Lagoose GDP per capita

Prove it with facts!

NairobiWalker:
Thank you Hbuyosh. I hope those who have an honest need to learn will learn. Even 50% is too much. See,

Kibera - 170k
Mukuru - 200k
Mathare - 80k
That's 350k and those three slums hold over 80% of slum dwellers in Nairobi. The most the slum population of Nairobi can go is 500k which will represent around 12.5% of the total Nairobi population.

Kibera, the largest slum in Africa, which is made up of dozens of other slums being just 170k people?? What a joke, do you guys think we are fools?
What cheap and terrible liars!

NairobiWalker:
You're dumb. Tunisia is not in Sub Saharan Africa. Perhaps you don't know what Sub Saharan Africa means. I don't blame your. Your country has pathetic education system.

Add Mauritius to my list. Nigeria has among the least impressive cities on Google maps, don't mention it. Luanda is cool but Nairobi beats it on greenery

I keep on saying it here that Nairobi is a scam. This is why your slums will keep on haunting you.

What is the essence of boasting of a very beautiful and green city with parks when just behind it you have some of the worlds largest and most numerous slums filled with unproductive citizens?

This is the reason why Nairobi will never be able to boast of a large GDP per capital. Too much unproductive and poor citizens in the city secluded in slums.

NairobiWalker:
I posted yesterday morning, today you responded like I had not posted anything. It's clear that you hadn't seen them or paid attention to them till I reminded you to. Having low IQ makes you believe everyone is at your level of reasoning.

Again I asked you a question that you haven't answered. Where did you check them out? Did you fly to Nairobi? You seriously need a new brain.

Anyway, I thought you wanted us to post pictures of those neighborhoods. What happened?

I do not reason as ignorantly as you do. Good for yourself and your calmer tone after your embarrasment!

I saw your comments since yesterday morning and i started checking out the places in pictures and online links since yesterday. I was just too busy to start replying till this morning.

Yes of course, i wanted us to compare! Just that i realized that one cannot compare a town to a single estate. Most of the places you mentioned are ordinary estates, while i am listing towns and local govt areas.

I learnt about the districts of Nairobi, so, it would be better if you use the various districts of Nairobi to compare instead of using estates.
So you can start by classifying the districts of Nairobi according to their income statuses, then we can proceed!

iblawi:
Is not like jos is always cold. There are times when it's extremely cold and times when it's extremely hot too.

Mambilla is colder than Jos even somewhere around obudu in cross river is also very cold.

Mambilla is only colder than Jos on average i think.
Jos usually experiences colder temperature and hotter temperature extremes than mambilla.

NairobiWalker:
So according to you Kenya's urban population rose from 25% to 35% within two years? (2015 - 2017). Dude get yourself a brain.

Dont be so mentally lazy! Check the link.
Kenya urbanizes by approx 4.5% every year. Must i school you Kenyans all the time?

uzzyfire:
baba u are ghanain, end of story

LoL, perfect reply for vaxx

Chali wey wan claim omo naija.

NairobiWalker:
Do you really have a brain? Aren't you the same guy who said I am a liar when I said Kenya's urban population is 35% citing CIA as your source that placed it at 25%? I think I should take mtus advice. You're just a troll.

It's obvious that you are the one without a brain!

When you mentioned Kenya being 35% urban (since you are using 2017 estimates) why then did you mention Nigeria being around 40% urban, close to Kenya?? (when even 2015 Nigerian estimate was 47% urban) If not that your stupidity is alarming?

I will always refer you to your own comments, look at it below and see how you are just embarrassing yourself!

Gosh, is it just me or that most Kenyans are terrible liars??

NairobiWalker:
He's definitely a troll. I make a post referring him to 30 neighborhoods I listed and four minutes later he responds claiming he's checked all of them and made a conclusion that they're incomparable to Lagos and have no roads and no local governments. Lol.....I wonder where he checked and the speed he used to check.

Are you sure that you are not mad?

You listed those areas of Nairobi yesterday morning and i responded to your comment this morning (1 full day interval), is that not enough time for me to check out the places you listed in the planet you live in?? Jeeez!

I'll continue to expose your foolishness here for the world to see.
See the time of your comment yesterday and the time i replied you this morning!

iblawi:
Nasarawa state government is serious because they generate more revenue from Karu local government area which shares boundary with Abuja than Lafia the state capital.

Yes you are correct.
I think Karu LGA currently should be more populated and wealthier than Lafia LGA where the state capital is.

But Niger state also has Suleja, Madalla and other urban areas spilling over from FCT.

NairobiWalker:
Yet you're the same person who claimed a few pages ago that Nairobi Metro has 10 million people - that alone is almost 25% of Kenya.....Maybe you want us to believe that Nairobi Metro is the only urban area in Kenya. But again, you'll always handpick some silly sources when they favor you. Believe what you want budy.

Yes i did, and according to estimates, it is very correct.

Read the link and see that Kenya just like Nigeria is urbanizing by about 4.5% every year, this means that now in 2017, Kenya should be about 34% urban while Nigeria should be about 56% urban.
The statistic was reported in 2015.

Isahalbash:
As usual, always evading d main argument nd resorting to sth else. Who x disputing abt illiteracy & poverty with you? When u dnt knw abt smth dnt cum here nd start typing rubbish.

You can also do dsame... Go nd preach to ur literate brothers to stop cannibalism.

There is nothing to argue with you, because all Nigerians know that you core-northerners are the ones dragging Nigeria backwards with your religious extremism. Don't try to drag middlebelt muslims with you in your backwardness.

You can imagine what that shameless Zamfara governor came out to say, that God is punishing his citizens with meningitis because of their sins.

I asked you, why don't Kwara, Kogi and Nasarawa muslims or yoruba muslims fight for sharia law in their states as core-northerners if they so much practice the same kind of islam? You could not answer.

How many times have you heard Igala, Ebira, Gwari, Nupe, Bariba or Alago muslims burning churches, beheading people or fighting people of other religions in their homelands?
Or you think all Nigerians don't know how core-northerners discriminate yoruba and middlebelt muslims as fake muslims ba?

Oga, go and sit down. You have nothing to say!

NairobiWalker:
I'll give you five for each category and you can check them out on Google maps and compare with those unplanned Lagos settlements.

High Class
1. Muthaiga
2. Karen
3. Spring Valley
4. Kitusuru
5. Gigiri


Upper Middle Class
1. Kilimani
2. Parklands
3. Kileleshwa
4. Westlands
5. Milimani


Middle Class
1. South C
2. South B
3. Nyayo Estate Embakasi
4. Madaraka
5. Imara Daima


Lower Middle Class
1. Buru Buru
2. Fedha Estate
3. Donholm
4. Komarock
5. Pangani


Low Class
1. Umoja
2. Makadara
3. Kariobangi
4. Zimmerman
5. Roysambu


Slums (your favorite)
1. Kibera
2. Margaret
3. Mukuru kwa Njenga
4. Korogocho
5. Kiambiu

I hope you'll shut your mouth now.

I have checked out almost all these places you mentioned and what i observed is that most of these places you listed are just estates and neighbourhoods. Whereas some of the places i am listing for you in Lagos are entire local govt areas and towns with hundreds of thousands to millions of people, dozens of estates, streets/neighbourhoods that function almost independently of Lagos city.

I have now really concluded that there is no need to compare Lagos and Nairobi.

forgiveness:
That's cool. So, what are works on ground?

The satelite town development agency (STDA) of Abuja was created specially for the development of Abuja satelite towns.
There has been a lot of construction and renovation of roads linking and within the satelite towns. Estate developers are being given plots in satelite towns and forced to develop them by the govt, and you won't believe the beautiful, standard and comparatively cheaper estates being built in some Abuja satelite towns.
Niger and Nasarawa state govts must put their hands together with FCTA in this, because many Abuja satelite towns have developed into Nasarawa and Niger states. Nasarawa state governor is trying here but Niger state governor is something else.

vaxx:
Kada ka so ka ji da gaskiya. Wake up daga barci. Najeriya tana da mummunan shugabanci. gobe.

I have succeeded in exposing you.
I bet people like Iblawi fell for your written yoruba. I cannot fall for your written hausa because i know that many Ghanaians can speak and write yoruba and Hausa.

You claim to know Nigeria, but first of all you disgraced yourself by claiming that Abuja has 66 districts instead of 37, and now you claim that Kawo is in Jos instead of Kaduna.

You are either a Ghanaian or half Nigerian half Ghanaian or a naturalized Ghanaian from Nigeria, but you are not fully Nigerian (born and bred in Nigeria).
So, CHALI, stop claiming Naija and stick to your Ghana!!