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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 7:23am On May 12, 2017
vaxx:
this is your beautiful abuja road. the very funny thing,about is that,vanguard even wrote an articule on it.http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/bad-roads-deteriorating-infrastructure-worry-fct-residents/
Most of these places are not within Abuja municipality. You can clearly see that none of the pictures feature city architectures. Unlike this kind of Accra bad road within the heart of the Accra city. See the buildings, It's so embarassing.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:11am On May 12, 2017
Isahalbash:
Both d MB and d CNrth fanatics r from dsame religious group " Birds of a feather, flock together."
They are from the same religion, but they do not practice the religion same way.
The former (MB) gives more attention to western education and have higher literacy rates while the latter (core-north) believes islamic education is all that is required most times, hence have lower literacy rates.

Boko haram and maitatsine were not formed by middlebelt muslims.
Middlebelt muslims cannot fight each other because of islamic sects as obtainned in the core-north.
There 1,001 differences btw both middlebelt and core-northern muslims.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:06am On May 12, 2017
arinzeejikonye:
Nigeria, the diamond and the rough
Hahaha, you guys should not make these Kenyans, Ghanaians and Zulus here catch high blood pressure and hypertension because of these pictures oo..... grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:03am On May 12, 2017
iblawi:
That's the part I like most and that's what many Nigerians are crying about. With the resources we have we could have done better. It's not that we are not moving but we are moving at a slow pace.

Nice 1
All these were brought upon us by the decades of military rule and the 'oil curse', and we have recovered from the former and now gradually recovering from the latter since the fall of oil prices.

Nigerians also have to demand more from their states, we demand too much from the federal govt and this has made the states very lazy, waiting for monthly allocation from Abuja.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 12:00am On May 12, 2017
Hbuyosh:
Kenyan metropolitan area........u meant Nairobi I assume.

If u want the GDP of the Nairobi metropolitan region, the satelite suburbs or towns within the fringes of the Nairobi boundary, u'd then need to look at the GDPs of the counties (Kenyan equivalent of states in your country) in which they belong. If u reread ur BD report u presented here, they mentioned Kiambu and Kajiado counties as having the highest per capita incomes in Kenya. Now these counties, including Machakos border the county of Nairobi, and there are huge comcentrations of settlements in the parts of these counties bordering the Nairobi county, that people would consider them really parts of Nairobi, however noy really within the Nairobi county jurisdiction.

Thete4, the Nairobi merroplitan area refers to these settlements that bave sprung ip invthe edges of Nairobi county boundary, its residents working in Nairobi but commute back to these outlying towns.
Ok, now this is more enlightening.

Is there no official report showing all the Kenyan counties and their population estimates? When was the last Kenyan census?

These are the facts you guys should be providing to correct any misrepresentations of your country rather than wasting time looking for facts to ridicule Nigeria.
Nigerians always acknowledge their problems, but you guys never. That's why even when terrible facts stare at you guys in the face, you guys can do almost nothing about them, other than mute away and evade.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:53pm On May 11, 2017
mtis:
I met a young Yoruba fellow today in Nairobi..he taking CS related degree in local University.very nice chap..so the question is like whats wrong with ya Nigerians when you seat behind ya keyboard.its like ya possessed. Many Nigerians out here think ya country is not great like you sound. OK Kenya is not perfect either but we always demand change..but you guys is like the ship is sinking but no one gonna tell the captain about it.You looking at other ships passing by an bad mouthing them not caring that ya ship is sinking.
As much as i defend Nigeria here, i would never defend Nigeria before Nigerian leaders or fellow Nigerians.
Who told you that Nigerians do not demand change? Cant you see how majority Nigerians here insult, criticize and castigate the Nigerian govt? And many are clamouring for secession or restructuring?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:50pm On May 11, 2017
NairobiWalker:
What's wrong with you dude? are you deliberately trying to start a flame war between Kenya and Tanzania?
Why would i? Just stating my humble observations which many Kenyans here are denying against facts sticking out in the face.
Shuoo, pesin nor fit gbadun Tanzania in peace again? cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:46pm On May 11, 2017
gallivant:
They would rather live in slums than risk drowning in the Mediterranean to wash toilets and ashawo in Europe.
Many of those who unfortunately went to Europe to do those dirty jobs have been able to bring their hitherto hopeless families out of poverty while your slums keep growing larger and attracting more humanitarian aids and NGOs from all over the world. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:43pm On May 11, 2017
Jay254:
I appriciate the fact that Nija culture especially of dressing has had great influence in Africa and the world.

I appriciate Nija Music better than our own.

I appriciate the fact Nigerians have spread to almost all countries in the globe.. including the very sick countries of the world... That is ambition.

I believe Nija can do better if they improve on

1. Focus on its tourism attractions expecially on places like Kano and Calaba.
2. Improve the image of Nigerians to outsiders
3.Work on uniting the north and the south.. to outsiders nija is one
I also appreciate Kenya for their fantastic tourism industry. I think Kenya has one of the best or the best tourism in Africa.

I beIieve Kenya can do better if they improve on

1) The slum populations, more average and low middle-class areas should be created and developed in Nairobi in order to eradicate slums.

2) Apart from Nairobi and Mombasa, other Kenyan cities should be more internationalized and very much economically active. It's embarrasing to see Kenyans here brag of Nairobi alone controlling almost half of Kenya's wealth.

3) kenya has to seriously look into the entertainment and fashion industry. Nigeria/West african cultural attires must not be dominating the entire Africa. We are dying to see advanced East african traditional attires.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:27pm On May 11, 2017
Just30:
how do you even mention a filthy place like Lagos? Dont even mention Lagos because it hasn't even been able to supply common electricity or water to it residents
Mumbai in India also has these issues. Does that make Ghana better than India or Accra better than Mumbai?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:22pm On May 11, 2017
WIZGUY69:
grin. This guy.. you need to be flog in public.
Is Abuja a Paradise? to the extent you don't even want a natural disaster to occur..
Go back and check the link again.. trees fell ..then?
Try harder Charlie
Don't mind the vaxx, bloody chali.
Even american and australian places have been flooded and havoc wreaked during heavy rains and storms.

@vaxx, the difference in the terrible pics of Accra and Abuja is that Abuja's case is a natural cause of nature.
But you can't tell me that these roads in Accra/Tema are natural causes.
The roads are bad! And not just flooded!

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:11pm On May 11, 2017
shervydman:
if Nairobi's gdp is 40% of Kenya's gdp............that country is doomed(sorry to say)
Exactly, a very sorry country that is.
As powerful as Lagos state is, it only controls 20% of Nigeria's wealth.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 11:08pm On May 11, 2017
shervydman:
seriously......u are one of the reasons I wanna leave the thread too, that's uncalled for!!
I tried my best to make the thread peaceful and educative but they refused. Do you expect me to watch them ridicule Nigeria when their own countries are not any better?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:12pm On May 11, 2017
Just30:
do you know what a cost of living metrics is?
Do you know what the standard of living of a people is?
Dont you know, Accra is the Singapore of Africa?
Ghana is the single most expensive country to live in in Africa

I'll be celebrated in Nigeria for having just 15,000 cedis because it instantly make me a millionaire
See this illiterate. How can anyone from a developing 3rd world country celebrate high cost of living? Is that not madness?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:08pm On May 11, 2017
Just30:
Accra is 40 plus years ahead of Abuja in everything
And people are still crying for Accra?

Show me any road in the 37 districts in the 3 developmental phases of Abuja municipal that looks like this and i will delete my nairaland account!

#IcryForAccra

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:04pm On May 11, 2017
NairobiWalker:
Kenya's GDP = $75 billion
Nairobi's GDP = 40% of Kenya's.
Nairobi's GDP = $30 billion
Nairobi's population = 4 million
Nairobi's GDP per capita =$ 7500
Lagos GDP per capita = $4300

......and you still think Lagos is richer than Nairobi?
Just see how you pull out statistics from your black kenyan ass! Are you so illiterate?
Provide verified and referenced online sources.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 4:03pm On May 11, 2017
9jakool:
if you look at the cultures of many Sudan-Sahelian groups like Songhai, Wolof, Mandinka, you will see that their Islam is more liberal. I think the Fulani hegemony and aristocracy stems from the Sokoto caliphate. Imagine if the Hausa had kept their kings, I think there would be a less puritanical approach to Islam in the region and the education situation wouldn't have been the same as it is today. I think that legacy from Sokoto as well as the British involvement and indirect rule can be felt today. There is a disproportionally high number of Fulani politicians from the North. The upper class also has a disproportionally high number of Fulani even though Hausas are the clear majority. The Hausa-Fulani banner is just an alliance forged by Islam which is politically disadvantaged to Hausa and culturally disadvantaged to Fulani who easily assimilate. In a way the Fulani traded their culture for political hegemony. In reality, the two cultures are very different and almost opposite in some instances. One is pastoralist nomadic, the other is agriculturalist. One speaks an afro-Asiatic language, the other speaks a Niger-Congo language. I've seen many Fulani from Guinea or Cameroon complain about the Hausa-Fulani and they don't like the assimilation that's taking place among their people in Nigeria. Personally I see them as two distinct ethnic groups unless you are actually mixed. While settled Fulani tend to be more conservative, nomadic Fulani tend to be less conservative with many even upholding the traditional beliefs. It's ironic because they were the one who pushed for jihad and conservative Islam across West Africa, but they couldn't even fully convert their own people.
You have said nothing but the pure undiluted truth.

The Hausa-fulani alliance based on islam was a beneficial and destructive one too, with advantages and disadvantages.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:56pm On May 11, 2017
darfay:
I just dey think wetin go make me join a foreign forum let say Cameroon when I no base there?
there was an article I read about the nigerinization of Kenya bout how they are trying to speak with the Nigerian accent(pidgin) and some of their musicians use it. I think they obsessed with us which is a crazy kind of obsession trust me.
what surprises me the most is the level of hate
See the filthy Kenyans here, their artistes are protesting against Nigerian domination of their local music airplay.

Just see how filthy and local their most talented artistes are. What a shame! cheesy cheesy

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:51pm On May 11, 2017
darfay:
u are not Yoruba talk more of Nigerian. no yoruba man will ever insult Ibadan and are sure about gwarimpa not being developed?
Leave the foolish Ghanaian called Vaxx pretending to be a Nigerian.
The fool forgot that Gwarinpa district in Abuja has the largest estate in Africa.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:48pm On May 11, 2017
shervydman:
if its educative,no need to close it.....can u even close it?
An admin can close it.

It makes no sense for little vermins whose countries are no better than Nigeria to come on a Nigerian forum to insult and dance around Nigeria the way they like.
If the thread will not be educative, then i think it's high time we beckoned on the admins to come and close the thread.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:44pm On May 11, 2017
vaxx:
first of all i am not afonja. it will make sense if you called me omo ka ro oji ire.

you do not belived me right. i will give you more than three. apart from abuja central , asokoro ,maintama ,wuse , garki. tell me which part of abuja is developed more than ado ekiti. even smelling ibadan is better than,karu ,gwangbalada ,kubuwa, jukwuyi. Gwarinpa district .

how do you tink research are carried out. do u think it is from house to house. brother there are three major form of research. but not limited. questionia ,observation and interveiw.. reserach were carried out and the outcome proof that nigerians are lying with their age to enter civil service and you can not defend it.

no one is using electricity as only yardstick of development here. i have made mention of enabling enviroment. a progressive country must posses enabling enviroment for business and stable energy if she is serious. Ghana and benin are serious in that regard. Threfore ghana is more suitable than nigeria.

human index development is the yardstick to measure development not gross domestic product. canada and scandavania countries outperform usa, china and germany. when it comes to human index development nigeria is behind ghana.

you have not step out of nigeria and you think your giant is really giant. giant of what?
Can't you see how daft you are? Karu, Gwagwalada and Jukwoyi? Are these among the 37 districts of the 3 phases of Abuja?
Those are suburban districts of Abuja which were never part of the original master plan of Abuja, and this is why they do not belong to any of the 3 phases of Abuja.

Pls educate yourself about the districts and phases of Abuja before you open your gutter to spew thrash.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abuja
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:36pm On May 11, 2017
iamord:
lol.save your depiction's of Lagos or abuja as an Eldorado as I know Nigeria in and out, so easy with the exaggerations. there is really nothing trendy and vibrant about these state's. same old things there.. not friendly and safe, hard to conduct legit biz , it has always been like that. the economic downturn turned it to something else. even as s foreigner I felt the pain as one of my biz went down. so don't try to exaggerate . I know these cities very well.
Any imbecille can claim to know anywhere.

Figures speak louder!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:35pm On May 11, 2017
iamord:
who are the ushuh if what I have said since does not make sense nothing else will.
A very cheap way to chicken out!

Are you so ashamed to say how wealthy your better industrialized cities are? You claim your cities have more industries and economic activities, what is their worth? Speak figures or just keep quiet in shame!

Figures speak louder than words.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:31pm On May 11, 2017
Just imagine how wild these little Kenyans and Ghanaians have gone just because i left this thread for a day!

See fellow Nigerians, it's either we continue to tame these little roaches on our forum or this thread ends!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:29pm On May 11, 2017
Hbuyosh:
Wikipedia I see. First, go use that Wikipedia to farmiliarize yourself with what a METROPLITAN is, then go back to that very wikipedia page abt Nairobi and read that bit under the headline NAIROBI METROPOLITAN AREA.

Then come back and engage in a sensible debat with me.
Can you see how you cheaply evade facts?

Okay, my facts are wrong.
Give us the official data for Kenyan metropolitan area population and it's GDP/GDP per capital, or is that too much fact to ask from kenyans?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:22pm On May 11, 2017
Jay254:
Do you know Kenyan system? Do you know how many Counties/states we have? Do you know their Budget?

Do be so sure for on things you have no information about.
Does each Kenyan county have an administrative capital city which it is developing? If yes, this means Kenya should have over 40 cities?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:20pm On May 11, 2017
DonnieTheGreat:
Yes sir, i stay in Abuja..Stop lying i know you don't like Nigeria but the lies are unnecessary.Abuja is like london!!.The only underdeveloped district in Abuja is Nyanya. But even Naynya is not in Abuja its in Nasarawa state. Please kindly mention those 60 underdeveloped districts of Abuja. Atleast mention 3.Thanks

Also you said lagos is leading because of population. Thats illogical, if huge populations meant better GDP then Kano the most populated state in Nigeria would definitely be in the lead. Lagos is developing for many reasons and population is just a very tiny part of it.

Also,
Do you know that atleast 60% of Nigerians are under the age of 18, Another 22% are above the age of 65(retired). That means the Nigerian workforce constitutes of just maximum of 18% of the whole population of the country.

Lets do the math:
18% of 180million is 32 million.

So imagine, 32 million people without constant Electricity, who grew up under very strict military rule and lack access to basic amenities have managed to generate a GDP of over $400 billion.(10% of our GDP comes from oil..not included) in the space of just 17 years of Democratic rule. Imagine!!


Honestly,
I think you guys from other African Countries need to humble yourselves and learn one or two traits from Nigerians. What we have achieved in the last 17 years is somewhat unreal.


We are not perfect but give us the credit we deserve.!!
Don't mind the fools.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:17pm On May 11, 2017
Jay254:
Kindly note mombasa has spread to Mtwapa which is like 25km... Nyali within Mombasa is like a city on its own... Open your eyes wider..
Why then are majority of Mombasa residents still very poor?
What is the GDP and GDP per capital of the city?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:13pm On May 11, 2017
vaxx:
abuja what? out of the 66 district that make abuja only 6 district is really developed. all the district that make greater accra can be consider develop in west african sense. some district in abuja are far worst.

the airport development you saw was an extension of the old airport to accomodate little aircraft maintainance. and avation fuel centet. first in west africa . second to tripoli airport.

new extention of the old kumasi airport is also underway. i pray the current goverment continue.

lagos is leading as a commercial hub in west africa simply because of population and not base on enabling enviroment. accra might overtake that position if it continue with its current development. although it can be debate. Journesbourg is not as populated like lagos yet it bost of a strong economy that can be compared to europe standard. Likewise alexandra in egypt.
Where did this slowpoke come out of?
There are 37 districts in Abuja, na you know where you see your own 66 districts.

Yes, Lagos is populated, but it's GDP per capital is one of the highest in Africa.
Tell us the GDP per capital of your own useless capital city.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:09pm On May 11, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:
Naija men here have been calm. Na the other people dey cause Wahala. I am thinking of unfollowing sef. Apart from what we learn from the Ethiopians and the Algerian the thread is no more educative.
I tried to make this thread so calm, civilized and educative, but these filthy Kenyans and South Africans insist on dick measuring with Nigerians.
They are very lucky that i am very busy nowadays. If not, by the time am through with them....they know me sha....
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 3:00pm On May 11, 2017
Just30:
Tema was created in 1952 http://tdctema.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=3
Yet it's still as small and insignificant as a village. What a shame! Give Abuja that much time and it will compete with Tokyo.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nowenuse: 2:57pm On May 11, 2017
68816419:
More of bonny island
Bonny island is the bomb! And the island has 24 hours electricity.

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