₦airaland Forum

fk002:
So which criteria did you follow that made up your hypothesis of the predominant religion in Kaduna is Christianity?

Kaduna state has 23 LGAs.

10 (Kachia, Jemaa, Kagarko, Sanga, Zangon Kataf, Kauru, Kaura, Jaba, Chikun, Kajuru) are Christian majority.

11 are muslim majority while Lere & Kaduna south are like a 50/50....

Majority of the Muslims in the Christian southern part are Hausa fulani settlers in the towns, unlike in the northern part where you have dozens of Kurama villages in Kubau & Gbagyi villages in Igabi & Birnin Gwari LGAs.... And also many dozens of indigenous Hausa Christians all over the rural areas of Makarfi, Kubau, Giwa, Kudan, e.t.c

Indigenous Hausa Christians have a large population in northern Kaduna, but they are very very timid. They don't stand their ground like Southern Kaduna tribes Christians do cos they see themselves as a conquered minority. They answer Islamic names and dress like Hausa Muslims and you will never know many of them are Christians till they tell you themselves.

Mystiquefia:
Damn... This has got to be the best thread av come across since this year. Barefaced facts been bombarded here and there. I never for once thought that hausas/fulanis could be this engaging online. After going through these intelligent comments from both northern Christians and Muslims, I'm beginning to think with more and more education in the north things may get better.

Things can never get better in Nigeria and we Northern Christians and Middlebelters are seeing reasons why we need to partner with Nnamdi Kanu to pull out of this nonsense association called Nigeria.

Dupamecano:
First of all, southern nigeria doesnt have 100 million people, just stop.

If ethnic hausas and fulanis who predominantly speak hausa make up 40% of the population, where is the account for the other minorities like your people who have adopted hausa.

But lets play your game here, if there are 80 million hausa speakers in nigeria, including numbers for niger sudan chad and co puts that number at over a 100m. so hausa being the most spoken indigenous african language isnt a reach even by your biased conservative estimates.

Southern Nigeria + Kwara is well 100 million or more. Yorubas & Igbos are the other 2 major ethnic groups other than Hausa. . Are you saying that Yorubas, Igbos and Southern minorities (Niger deltans) combined are not up to half of the country? With 18 states which they dominate?

The 40% of Nigerians who speak Hausa is you Hausa fulanis + minorities who speak Hausa combined!
How can Hausa fulanis have 40% of Nigeria's population? You can hardly even have 30% of Nigeria's population. You have something like 25% because in the north, minority ethnic groups combined outnumber Hausa fulanis combined.
So if Northern Nigeria is 50% of Nigeria, Hausa fulanis are 25% of Nigeria.

So about 80 million Nigerians speak Hausa as a 1st, 2nd or 3rd language. Plus majority of Niger republic (20 million) plus parts of Northern Cameroon & Northern Ghana (10 million) + a small portion of Sudan (2 million), that gives something around 120 million.

Hausa is not spoken in Chad as people wrongly assume.

fk002:
I have a very close friend here in Abuja he is from Lassa his dad is a pastor and his family is a mixed one. We once had a friendly argument and we reached a conclusion that Muslims and Christians are about 40 60 Christians being the highest.

I laugh in Baburr

Go to any Marghi forum on Facebook and count the numbers of muslims you see compared to Christians.
If you are talking about the Yan cin Rani settlers, it is a different thing.

Okay, mention prominent Marghi Muslims from Borno. ... You have many in Adamawa including the current governor.

Dupamecano:
Bauchi has muslim governor and 3 muslim senators. 10/11 muslim reps members. What is this clown talking about? bauchi? i laugh in swahili!

Look at you, already begging the southerners to save you when they cant save themselves. Your people are spineless slaves, always have been, you cant do sh-t.

But the arabian caliphate was one of the greatest empires ever built, they were a force to be reckoned with and still are in their region. Again, who are your people again? If no one takes arabs seriously what do we say about your people?

So, how come with all this power that the Muslims have in Bauchi state, yet Sayawa people who are like 10% of the state are dealing with you people? Is it not a shame and a show of your weakness?
There is no LGA in Plateau that a Christian cannot enter but you people cannot enter Bogoro LGA and half of Tafawa Balewa... Are you not ashamed?

Oga, I get am before nor be property! There are many powerful kingdoms of the past whose descendants today are irrelevant! E.g the Mongols who almost conquered the entire world... Where are they today?

fk002:
If 50% of kaduna are Christians as he claims why wouldn't they govern the state as they are doing in Jos.


Anyway El Rufai proved him wrong in the past election

You muslims think politics is the best way to judge population, but that is very wrong.

Do you know that a Muslim has never been President of Burkina Faso? Yet Burkina Faso is clearly a Muslim majority country.... Christians are a minority there but right from the colonial days, they have held power and hold it till date.

Same thing happened in Chad where the 40% Christian minority dominated the nation's politics until the muslims did a coup and took back power.

Same thing in Cameroon, where the fulani muslim minority dominated politics after independence until the Christian majority took over forever and ever.

The best way to determine the religion of a place in Nigeria is by bringing out the demography of that place and analyzing it.

Old Kaduna state was like 80% muslim when Katsina was part of it and Southern Kaduna people were used to being a voiceless minority from the beginning.

Somethings are not the way we see them.

Like I always tell your likes.

Muslims have produced elected Senators in Plateau central, Adamawa south & Taraba north.... Are these places Muslim majority? Yes or no?

fk002:
Seriously? So no Muslim in Marghi lol no Muslim in Matakam (gowza bayan dutse) lol you are a joker.

Even Michika in Adamawa has muslims in fact Bachamma, lungula that are majority Christians have indigenous muslims in their midst talkless of Marghi and Gwoza tribes that they are about 50 50

Marghis in Uba, Lassa & Askira are 95% Christians... It is those in Madagali (Adamawa) that have a significant Muslim minority.

Of course, Michika has Muslims, almost every tribe in the north has Muslims! Just like every tribe has Christians including Hausa, fulani and Kanuri! So what the fuss?
The point is that you cannot call a tribe that is 20% or less Muslim/Christian a mixed tribe.... Unless from 30% and above where they can be called a significant minority.

Muslims in Michika are not up to 20% and that is why they are being evicted by the Christians... Christians and Muslims can hardly fight each other in an ethnicity that is 50/50, 60/40 or even 65/35.

Gwoza town is muslim majority and that is why I said Gwoza (Bayan Dutse) which is 90% Christian.

Dupamecano:
LMAO that burkutu must have eaten up your amygdala. The funny thing is the people living the rural areas of abuja wont dictate its destiny. Like i said, muslim or christian, it doesnt matter. Abuja is ours and theres nothing you can do about it. Kaduna is a foregone conclusion. And if we want, we will take plateau as well.

Neom is still being aimed for 2025 and those plans havent changed. You saying saudi needs money from publicly trading aramco is the dumbest thing i've seen on this forum and thats saying something. Aramco was supposed to fund part of the project not all of it, approximately 20%, so how is it dead because of aramco? what a stupid jackass. Neom is under construction as we speak. Let the envy and hatred choke you to death.

If u want u will take Plateau? and you think we will watch you when you do? Have you even finish taking Bauchi that you want to come to Plateau? There are 2 big towns in Bauchi that your people cannot enter (were chased out), go and take those towns first.... Shameless cowards!
With all the sponsors you people have to buy weapons, yet you were reduced to minorities in all the Angwas in South of Kaduna river, once fight starts, you see trailers coming to evacuate the muslim minorities in Barnawa, meanwhile we who dominate 3 Angwas in Kaduna north give you people fire for fire! Yet we don't have any sponsors.

Do you think a full scale war will be like normal crisis where the army comes in to save you people? The whole of Southern Nigeria will be backing my people, then we see who will win.


The Arabs will never be a force to reckon with forever and ever whether they build a city or not.... While the Westerners are very very united, many Arab countries don't see eye to eye and are puppets of westerners while others are puppets of Russians.

The Chinese & Indians are the ones people even look up to as emerging people, not even Arabs. Who takes Arabs seriously?

Dupamecano:
LOL Why are you hell bent on lying to yourself. FYI i dont count kogi and kwara as "northern states" but even in kogi there are still hausa speakers. Nupes dont speak hausa but somehow when their governor is at a rally he communicates to them in hausa. LOOOL! What a dweeb! Again, what percentage of nigerians would you reckon speak hausa? Answer the question.

Many Nupes migrate to live in Minna, Kaduna, Zaria, Kano that is why they speak Hausa. This is the same way many of them speak Yoruba too cos they are all over Yoruba land and are known as TAPA.

Go to Bida, Kutigi, Lapai, Mokwa e.t.c and speak Hausa and see.... Even Hausas in Bida and Kutigi have to speak Nupe.

In my opinion, assuming there are 200 million Nigerians and 100 million goes to Southern Nigeria + Kwara and the rest goes to the North/middlebelt, then I'd say 80 million Nigerians speak Hausa.(40%).
Because we remove Tivs, Idomas, Igalas, Ebiras & Nupes who don't speak Hausa and we also remove some interior elderly villagers among large ethnic groups in Plateau, Southern Kaduna, Taraba, Adamawa, Nasarawa, Southern Gombe, Southern Kebbi, Borno and Niger east/FCT who only speak their native languages.

Dupamecano:
This unrepentant obtuse im.becile summarizes all the reforms by muhammad salman into just publicly trading saudi aramco. LOL! What about the more progressive policies, the tech hubs being built and saudis investment in major tech companies in the world amongst other things? Just because on such step failed makes it an exercise in futility? what a clown!

The majority of gbagyis in abuja are muslim. Infact the state itself is named after a man called Abu (abubakar) who was fair and in hausa terms referred to as ja (red). Not that it matters what religion they follow. In the end, if we want it, we will take it for ourselves. Theres a reason why we moved the capital there.


Let me quote an excerpt from the kano chronicles for you about your kwararafa:

"The thirteenth Sarki was Kanajeji. His father's name was Yaji. His
mothier's naiime was Aunaka. He was a Sarki who engaged in many wars. He
hardly lived in Kano at all, but scoured the country round and conquered the
towns. He lived for some tinme near the rock of Gija. He sent to the Kworarafa
and asked why they did. not pay him tribute. Tliey gave him two hunidred slaves.
Then he returned to Kano and kept sending the Kworarafa horses while they
continued to send him slaves"

one of many such quotes about how impotent your people are. This is who you'll always be to us. We will crush you as we please.
But the numbers or demographics dont matter, in the end we built that state. We made it what it is and we will take it whether you like it or not and theres nothing you impotent ninnies can do about it.

Majority of Gbagyis in Abuja are muslims? Ogbeni, what version of weed did you smoke? Mention one Gbagyi part of FCT that is muslim majority.
90 of Gbagyis in FCT are Christians. It is the Egburas in Abaji and the Ganagana/Dibo in Kwali who are majority muslims. Bwari, Kuje & Amac Gbagi communities are 90% Christian, while Gwagwalada, Kwali are like 70% Christian. Only Abaji is a 50/50 because of Egburas who dominate Abaji town.

Even in Niger state where you have most Muslim Gbagyis, Christians are still more 60/40 and most of the Gbagyi muslims are centred around Minna and not close to Abuja... Tafa, Munya, Shiroro & Gurara which share boundary with Abuja are 80% Christian. .... You know nothing! Come and take Abuja let's see how you will do it

Even Kaduna will be difficult for you to take, let alone Abuja.


The money KSA hoped to get from Saudi Aramco was what they hoped to use in building the new $500 billion city (to rival Dubai)... Now that it is a failure, the city will never come to pass...That city was their future, just like Dubai.
Saudi is going nowhere till the oil becomes irrelevant in the next decade and they go back to riding Camels the way they were used to before Westerners discovered the usefulness of crude oil.

You are just quoting nonsense.

fk002:
All I know is must of the house in southern Borno are mixed both Christain and Muslims living under the same roof for ages.


You can't divide us, your suggestions and opinion are DOA

Only Bura and Shani people are mixed religion.
Kibakus, Marghis and Gwoza (bayan Dutse) are all Christians.

We can't divide u, but you are here claiming affinity with all northern muslims and Hausa fulanis? Then let us too start claiming affinity with Igbos and let's see where it will end us all.

fk002:
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Lol okay agreed what about you are you tubaben chritain? Because your forefathers were never Christians,That's why I said your logic is whack. Your argument doesn't hold water.

All Nigerian Christians are TUBEBE, so we don't use it to insult each other. We Christians all take pride equally in our culture, history and traditional religions, unlike your Hausa masters who want to be more Islamic than Arabians and take pride in the fact that their forefathers have been muslims, hence they see you guys as fake or lesser muslims.

Do you remember what happened to Sheik Gwoza?

Dupamecano:
Which studies? show me the latest studies that support your numbers and i will show you mine. I was being modest when i said 50% of nigerians speak hausa, some would argue 60. Hausas and fulanis alone make up 35-40 percent of the countrys population, then add in other ethnic groups like kanuri, nupe, and the middle beltan ethnicities, both muslim and christian that use hausa as their lingua franca. Benue is the only northern state where hausa isnt widely spoken. Thats 50% modestly, then niger where hausa is spoken by 90% of the population. What a clown, You ignorantly searched nigers demographic and while ethnic hausas make up 54% of the population other ethnicities use it as a lingua franca from the fula to the berbers. Sudan has a hausa community in the millions, ghana, chad guinea etc all countries with sizeable hausa speakers. Swahili comes close, but they dont have our numbers but other than them any other language you compare with hausa is a bad joke. Yoruba and hausa as far as reach and influence are not even in the same league. Stop fooling yourself.

@Myobjective, pls you are too intelligent to waste your time with the slowpoke...

Imagine the slowpoke claiming that Benue is the only state that Hausa is not spoken? Meanwhile, Kogi & Kwara people do not speak Hausa in their majority. Even Nupe people do not speak Hausa unless they leave their homelands to stay in Jos, Kaduna, Kano.

This boy is a small boy who knows nothing.

Dupamecano:
LMAO Reforms are being made nonetheless and continue to be made. The most important thing is the will to change. Its no secret that the saudis hate iran so only a mo.ron like you will be shocked about the khashoggi affair. No one is the least bit flabbergasted.

You said you dont care about hausas and fulanis but you are in every single thread that mentions us. You lot are like that adopted kids no one likes so you keep hating on us. Mark me, you will forever be beneath us.

You are going with abuja and half of kaduna? Are you high on kaikai and burkutu? cause i know your people

LMAO, good luck with that.

What a deluded fool! Seems you irrelevant bampots have grown wings, we will crush you like ants beneath our feet like we always have.

It is very obvious that you are an ignoramus and I can't waste my time on you anymore.
Even the KSA are now worried about the failure of their economic reforms and you are here talking rubbish?
The public trading of Saudi Aramco was a massive failure!

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2019-11-18/aramco-failure-to-win-foreign-investors-makes-ipo-a-local-event

Read you dummy, read!

Abuja belongs to us, you can cry a river for that . Where were you when Hausas were dealt with in Bwari town (north of Abuja)?
Do you want to jump over Southern Kaduna to claim Abuja and merge it to Kano? Abuja is surrounded by Christian Gbagyis on all corners.

Jaji which is in the north of Kaduna city is a Gbagyi Christian dominated town and u want to claim Kaduna? Is your brain working?

You are a cockroach and you cannot do anything other than running to hide after attacking small interior farm villages with old women and children.

Anytime our people and yours have had a face to face combat, we have always dealt with you people... Go and reclaim Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi if you have so much power as you claim.

Go and hit your head in shame, there are more Christians in the north of Kaduna river than Muslims in the south of the river. So who exactly have you crushed before?

fk002:
We always showed them, love, many of my friends are northern Christians, in fact, I can do anything for them our thoughts are aligned. But I don't know which rock all these Nairaland clowns crawl out from.

You are just spewing thrash to myobjective.

Who did you show love to? You showed love to middlebelt people with Boko Haram, Bandits, Fulani herdsmen and the ethno-religious clashes that have been happening since decades? You must be very deluded.

You a just a confused Tubeben musulmi (Muslim convert) as your Hausa fulani masters call you. ... A typical Hausa fulani muslim is even better than you because we know where they stand. You indigenous Muslims who we call our brothers are worse than snakes.

fk002:
Ngazargamu is in northern Borno it was the then seat of the caliphate of Bornu empire and it was never sacked not even close. In fact The then Shehu of Borno tried to invade Bauchi but it was unsuccessful Yakubun Bauchi(one of usman Dan fodio stooge)repelled him.

Don't you ask yourself why our kings turbanning is very different from other Fulani kingdom? Borno kingdom was one of the strongest kingdom during the reign of Fodio. I repeat again Fodio never invade Bornu.

As of Southern Bornu, we don't answer to any caliphate we are our kings.

So u are from Southern Borno?

You should most likely be Bura or Gwoza right? Cos you definitely cannot be Marghi or Kibaku.

Dupamecano:
LOL Reforms are being made in every single arab country including KSA which is trying to open up a bit more to the modern world and diversify their economy, investing billions into tech and creating more friendly policies. Besides, just because steps arent being made today doesnt mean they are being made tomorrow, some ethnicities are just too great not to thrive and some are just too irrelevant to be meaningful.

So tales of fodios conquest in hausaland which spoke nothing of the middle belt affects your people? LMAO! You are a shameless clown, you involve yourself in every single thread that talks about hausas or fulanis in any way. You are obsessed with us because your people will never even come close to the relevance we achieved and the relevance we will soon achieve. You lot are a bunch of nobodies forever to remain in our shadow as second class citizens.

Saudi Arabia diversification of economy has been a failure, as the desire to make Saudi Aramco a public company by putting it on the world stock exchange has been a failure... Nobody is buying it's shares, especially since the assassination of Jamal Khashogi and people knew they could never trust that evil Prince and his kingdom.
So, bring something else.

Lies were told on this thread and that was why I came in to correct them which lead to all of this.

The only thing you Hausa fulanis have more than my people is political power and that can end anytime from now! However, it will take you guys at least 2 generations to catch up with the education and exposure of my people.

We are blessed with a more fertile land and a beautiful landscape for tourism, look at Plateau and Taraba.
If Nigeria divides today, we are going with Abuja! Half/all of Kaduna and Jos. Can your Kano and Zaria match this combination?

Very soon, we will know who is more relevant.

MetaPhysical:
That power belongs with Southerners. I have been raising hell here in Nairaland over many months and on different threads and highlighting the need to pick candidates in NC to fill Northern spots in political arrangements.

If a Southerner will be President we will pick a NC candidate...and precisely one with tribal tribe, not someone like Saraki, IBB and many others who are confused about their identity.

We will put fulani North on a 100yr political fallow.

Unless it will be a northern Christian.

The only Middlebelt Muslims that can be trusted are the Yoruba muslims of Kwara south, Kogi West & Igalas... The rest are a waste of time.

fk002:
Okay let's see how you will carve out the other northern Christians.

Is not by making mouth online we are watching

Hausa Christians and Yobe Christians will leave their cursed states and move over to Plateau, Southern Kaduna and Gongola/Southern Gombe.
We will try to get Southern Borno, Southern Kebbi and Southern Bauchi, cos these areas are 50-60% Christian, but if we can't, they will also move over to join us.
We have enough land in Adamawa, Taraba, Plateau, Nasarawa, Kaduna e.t c to accommodate date them.

fk002:
Lol do your research again, southern Borno has never been conquered the Babur, chibok, Marghi, Terawa, have maintained their culture for ages. That's why King in Biu is called "Kuthi" instead of Lamido, same goes to part of yobe

Ngazargamu was sacked oga.
Southern Borno paid dues to the Borno empire, but they were never really conquered and totally subjugated. Today they are under the Emirates, although the indirect rule was their own major reason for some of them being under the Emirates.

Maintaining your culture is different from being conquered.

Nupes & Ilorins were conquered (by fulani treachery) and are under the Sokoto caliphate, but majority of them don't even speak or understand Hausa language... They call the king Etsu, Oba and even have masquerades and traditional religions.

myobjective:
Swahili speakers live in better countries and with better standard of living and human development than Hausas speakers of Northern Nigeria.

Don't compare Tanzania, Kenya to northern Nigeria or Niger my friend.

Don't mind that ignoramus of gargantuan proportions called Dupamecano.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya

Kenyan GDP above (with citation reference from the world economic Outlook database) is estimated at $100 billion, yet the nincompoop is comparing Northern Nigeria with Kenya.

Their GDP per capital (nominal) is $2,010. . A country with over 80% literacy rate being compared with the core-north with 20% literacy rate.

Nairobi is one of the most powerful cities in Africa which can only be surpassed by the likes of Lagos.

Sometimes when you argue with foools, they drag you down to their level.

Do you know that the mugu was bragging about a PhD in Hausa, meanwhile do you know that Swahili as the official language of the EAC (a union of 5 countries with 150 million people) is now used to teach advanced science?

You can be taught advanced Chemistry, Physics and Biology at tertiary levels in Swahili language.

Dupamecano, what is Atom, Molecule, Photosynthesis or Chemical reaction in Hausa language? Swahili has words for these things. Mumu.

fk002:
You guys are just like bats you are neither here nor there.

The igbos look down on you they see you as abokis no matter how you try to explain to them they will still call you aboki you will never change that perception


In the North, the Northerners don't recognise you as northerners because of your double edge nature. That's why you guys will never be allowed to lead the nation.

You and your people are just bunches of confusionist

See how boldly you are talking about the Igbos as if you are their spokesperson
Your era of divide and rule has passed.

I was born and bred in Delta state. I have lived and interacted with Igbos more than you or almost any core-northerner would ever. ... I should be the one to tell you about them. We live, socialize and intermarry with Igbos.... We are beginning to have an understanding with the Igbos unlike in the past when we were in a foolish union with the core-north.

Wait till next year and you will see the public official marriage between our people and Igbos... I am a leader of my people, do you know how many middlebelt leaders have gone to meet Nnamdi Kanu to include us when the referendum for Biafran comes? I personally will also be going to meet Nnamdi Kanu this year or at most next year.... Just wait a little for what will hit you foools shortly.


You can keep your north to yourself, we are no longer interested in it.

LegendHero:
I’ve always adored your posts. Remember the first time we had an encounter. I told you about how I held you in high esteem coz you understood in-depth history of tribes in Nigeria and I’ve always loved the way you present your arguments.

However, there are some things I noticed in you which made me took keen interest in trying to set some record straight with you. I understand you’re frustrated with the system, the fulanis have shown you guys a lot of the bad side which made you never wanted to be seen as their allies. Well, your grievances is justified.

What I just don’t like is when you try to abuse the Yorubas or blame us for what even we don’t know about or what most times we are indifferent to.

Check the Christian faith in Nigeria, Yorubas are not that much like the Igbos in Christianity, but we dominate the gospel in Nigeria. Check every top church in Nigeria and you will see it is the same Yorubas that are establishing mega churches and propagating the gospel of Christ. Adeboye, TB-Joshua, Kumuyu, Olukoya, to mention a few.

These guys have been the frontier of Christianity and their establishments have given the Christians in Nigeria a sense of superiority. These guys are supportive of your people (middle belt) during their trying days. We Yorubas constitute the highest number of human right activists in Nigeria sometimes even going above their means to voice out their concern when things are going wrong.

Yet, you have labeled us as being supportive of the Fulanis ethnic cleansing in the middle belt which was why I had to respond in that manner to you.

Lastly about the Yoruba Muslim looking up to the sultanate, there is nothing wrong in having a body as a religious leader. Even the Catholics in Nigeria look up to the pope.

However the main argument is that, the sultan and what he represents have always been a dent on Islam with their own barbaric type of religion that doesn’t give room for change. They have been a curse to Islam in Nigeria rather than blessing coz what is there to be proud of when we wake up everyday to witness the atrocities of the herdsmen, Boko-Haram, Almajiri, purposely induced illiteracy, etc being churned out from the North.

Tell me what is there to be proud of about the religion which the Hausa/Fulani are destroying through their rigid ideology.

Lol nice one...
Thank God that your Yoruba muslims have not been corrupted in their majority, however the likes of MURIC, you guys better dash them to the core north when the time comes, cos as for us, we will definitely export majority of our Muslims to the core north when the time comes. They can go and self destruct with each other like Somalia is doing Unproductive and retrogressive people.


About the hatred for Yorubas. . Yes, I admire Yorubas for many things. You people have been a blessing to all of Nigeria when it comes to Christianity, Entertainment and Education.

The truth is that the biggest rift was your alliance with the core north since 2015... I thought I was the only one who had a negative perception of you Yorubas among my people, not until recently when I came to Jos, Kaduna & Adamawa/Taraba, I discovered that I wasn't the only one. .. many of my people also see you guys in the same light.

We have been through this discussion before, I don't think we should continue it on this thread.

Dupamecano:
LMAO! TY danjuma is a shameless thief, he didnt work for anything like indimi or mangal. And since when did taraba turn into el dorado? When does taraba even begin to compare with the worst north western state? Did i bring ganduje into this? why is this imbeci/le putting words into my mouth? we will deal with what plagues us how we please, we dont need advice from inferior beings no better than apes. Go and mind your business.

Indimi also got his money from having an oil well through Babangida. ... Dangote has been enjoying monopoly and unfair economic advantages from the Nigerian government. They are all vampires, only that they suck different amount of blood.
Divide Nigeria today and all that fake wealth crumbles, so it is bullshiit.

Only a foool takes pride in wealth amidst crushing poverty... The wealth of a people is reflected in the well-being of the average citizen and not a handful of corrupt elites.

Apart from Kano, which other Hausa fulani city is a reasonable place to be? What is in Katsina, Zamfara, Jigawa, Sokoto & Kebbi?
Do you have a working brain?

Blue3k2:
Lol the question doesnt matter it wouldn't disprove my point either way mumu. Its part oftheir culture just like tea drinking is britsh culture.

This is what modern day Hausa women have been reduced to even with all the colonialism and education that came with it... Something that was not remotely available during Queen Amina's time.

Do u have a working brain? I ask again. Was Queen Amina dressed like this when she lead a Hausa country?

fk002:
But yet Muslims have been ruling kaduna for ages Patrick Yakowa was a first and last mistake and he was terminated.

I have so many Northern Christians friends but people like you are filled with hatred with this your comments I must say you guys deserve the marginnilaztion from El Rufai and his Muslim deputy...

Same way you have been dominating Nigerian politics but the Igbos are x10 more progressive than you.
Continue dominating Kaduna state and Nigerian politics while it lasts, cos the end is coming very soon.

fk002:
Usman Dan fodio never conquered Borno throughout his lifetime.

Ngazargamu was sacked. The capital of Borno was never conquered, but many areas that were previously under Borno like Yobe & Southern Borno axis came under the Fulanis.
This is why Kanuris in Yobe, Jigawa & Bauchi are under fulani Emirates.

Dupamecano:
Better than to worship someone who sh-ts pisses and bleeds like me. How can someone really indulge himself in such lunacy?

The whites really did a number on you lot.

At least our own religion is of freewill and people can opt in and leave whenever they like... It is not chains & shackles of bondage like yours where you are told to kill your own blood sister if she leaves your religion (spits!)

Dupamecano:
We are talking about language speakers and you are bringing up "official" language and you speak of stupidity. Chamorro is the official language of guam, doesnt mean they have more speakers than hausa dunce!

LMAO, Kanos GDP is more than that of those countries combined and i'm only half joking. Hausa is the only nigerian language you can get a masters and PHD in. Hausas have more prominent people than any swahili speakers. Hausa is officially being used to teach in some northern states (though i dont even support that). You can only hate, but just as we are not your mates hausa and swahili are not in the same league.

Before you come here and disgrace yourself... Google the population of Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Burundi and Rwanda and put it together and tell us how many that is, mugu.

I am giving you official statistics of countries which speak Swahili (some as native speakers) and you are telling me rubbish?
Songs, movies and novels sung and written in Swahili language have won Grammy awards and the biggest awards in the world.

I am telling you that Swahili language is now used to teach advanced science in some countries and you are telling me about PHD in Hausa, something which Swahili has gotten many decades ago?

Are you sure you have a functioning brain? Please don't drown me in your ignorance abeg.

Only Kenya has a GDP equal or larger than the entire Northern Nigeria put together. Do you know Kenya is the largest and most progressive country in East Africa? With a $100 billion economy?

Go and read a book and stop displaying shameless ignorance here disgracing your family.

Your Kano that is surviving on oil allocation from the Niger Delta? Wait until the country divides and u become no different from Somalia

LegendHero:
It seems I need to start picking up a book about Nigeria and learn more about all theses tribes.

Sometimes I always look clueless when you guys are discussing various tribe.

This thread taught me a lot about the ideology of the Fulanis, and one thing I learnt is that they never change their ways. That treachery still exists today and I’m glad we are conscious of their ideology now.

What else that needs to be done if for we Muslims in the SW to stop depending on the Sultan as a religious head. After all, Islam got to the SW in the 16th century before Dan-Fodio Jihad.

Instead of recognizing the Sultan as the Muslim religious head of Nigeria, we should rather recognize someone else from the source itself. Although Saudi too is somehow these days.

Normally, Islam would have been better in Nigeria, but these same Fulanis make the religion toxic. They are intolerant, full of themselves, fixated on the mindset of past centuries and rigid to change. At this age, Shariah and Jihad should have been relegated from the face of this world, even the Middle East people are modifying their laws.

It’s really a sad thing to be honest.

For once I agreed with you on something and liked your post

No ooo, Yoruba muslims can keep on waiting for the Sultan of Sokoto to sight the moon for them on their fasting.
What a shame on about 20 million Yoruba muslims that a Fulani sultan is permanently and automatically their official leader. God forbid.

Dupamecano:
Ohh yeah KSA, UAE, Qatar, Jordan etch are self destructing. I wonder why you lot cant stay away form these countries. If theres anything constant in this life its change. 200 years ago if anyone stipulated that the ottoman influence will be restricted to turkey and the turks be as feeble as they are now no one would agree.




You dont care about the core north but you are here wanking your willy about the core north. Keep deceiving yourself dweeb, your machinations wont matter when the north descends on you with the wrath of the almighty. We took these places before, we will take them again if need be. You are in any thread that talks about the core north. You are obsessed. Cant the with the fact that you will forever be in our shadow. Embarrassing!

And what is the population of the countries you are mentioning compared to that of Yemen, Syria & Iraq?
Well, we can see that all the hope you or they have in this world is to wait for a change... A change without any steps being taken? Show me one step the Arab world is taking to ensure they ever get to the top of this world.

Show me a great civilization today or at any point in time and I will show you concrete steps they were taking centuries before.


I am in any thread where lies about the core-north which affects my own people is being told. Open a thread about the Hausa fulanis and their destruction or almajiranci in Zamfara and see if I will comment.

Dupamecano:
LOL In addition to your botched knowledge of history you dont understand economics. Whether they buy it or not its still a contribution by the north that subsidizes food for the southerners which would otherwise be much more expensive if not for the norths competitive advantage. Furthermore, Nigeria has the most arable land in africa the majority of which is located in the "semi arid" north. Today most of the products the southerners mostly prefer from the north especially spices and vegetables are mostly farmed in the core north not the middle belt.

Stoning is prescribed for both men and women so its as equal as it gets. Before bil foduye, hausa has gone 400 years without recording an influential female figure like Madaki Auwa or of course Amina so blaming all of that on foduye is a shameless lie. However, women in hausaland were mistreated and domestic abuse was rife in the community but the islamic reforms were able to solidify and legalize certain rights a woman is entitled to in a community.

Is there a woman in the whole south more revered than amina mohammed today? I'll wait. I'm not arguing that women in other regions have more rights, im just saying that they have more rights than they were afforded originally and that continues to improve.

Without northern food, Southerners can import food from elsewhere at similar prices. Foreign imported rice is sometimes cheaper than the locally produced Nigerian rice in the south. So, we are not doing them any good as long as they pay for the food, unlike their oil money your state govt is using free of charge to build mosques, sponsor Hajj and mass marriages for poverty stricken people.

The only farming the core-north outnumbers the Middlebelt is Beans, Onions & Tomatoes.

The Middlebelt dominates Yams, Rice, Maize, Guinea corn, Millet, Oranges, Irish potatoes, Ginger, Vegetables (Cabbages, Lettuces, Carrots, Cucumbers, Spring onions, Cauliflower, Broccoli e t c).... Cotton, Groundnut & Sweet potatoes are 50/50.

The core-north has 1 climate and vegetation... It can never be compared to the Middlebelt which has different climates and vegetations which support multiple and diverse crops.


So the only Hausa woman you can boast with is a biracial woman who was brought up by a white mother? How about the one who was brought up a niqab wearing mother in Katsina?

If Southerners list their biracial women and achievements, can you withstand it? Abeg go and sit down.

Hausa women would have been more productive today without Danfodio, because they would have been like the progressive Yoruba muslims and not like Somalians and Yemenis.

How can you be comparing Hausa women of today to those of the pre-colonial era without education? Can you see how you reason?