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PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 11:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
How many of those have evolved from their occupation to become world beaters. Do you know what indimi, atiku, mangal etc did before they became who they are today? Indimi alone is worth more than both those states you mentioned. We make ourselves, we dont serve or rely on others to make us. Any honest job is worth doing. As for beggars they are worse than scum and we've disowned them. You can have them cause their misery will fit right in with yours.
World beaters whose hometowns and states are 90% poor and illiterate? I think we will pass. We don't need such 'world beaters'.

TY Danjuma is as rich as Indimi, but I do not take pride in his wealth because we all know these people made their wealth through the nepotism and crooked structures of Nigeria. .... If Nigeria divides today, all these wealth will crumble and be destroyed within a short time.


Your people are begging cos of their poverty and helplessness... You can only make their lives better by giving them education. Begging can never end in Hausaland without societal reforms. You think cos Ganduje bans them, then the case is settled?
You are more foolish than I thought.

It's like saying Yahoo should end in southern Nigeria when there are no commensurate jobs for the unemployed.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 11:08pm On Feb 27, 2020
engrchykae:
is that why your Mohammed the murderer killed Khadija to inherit her wealth?
And started marrying small girls to flex the deceased widow's fortune?
It is so sad that you wonder how over 1 billion people can be following a terrorist like this.

Well most of them were born into it and their fathers were forced into it with the sword, they also cannot leave it today or they will be killed.

Is there any difference between this and a cult?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 11:05pm On Feb 27, 2020
tartar9:
You must be an Igbo
Bunch of sycophants who only worship money
Last time I checked,Israels(where half the world's jewish population are) GDP is just half of Saudi Arabia.
They control the world,but at every point in their entire history they have been used for suya grin
What's the point in controlling the world then
Lol
You are comparing Israel, an advanced nation with high living standards as obtainable in the Western world to Saudi Arabia where 90% of the wealth is in the hands of a few rich royal houses and many citizens still live low income lives?

It's just like saying Indonesia is better than Switzerland cos it has a higher GDP. Mugu.

Almost everyone has been used for Suya at one point in their lives.... I get am before nor be property... Go and use the Jews for Suya now.
Arabs are the ones under their occupation and crying everyday.
You can cry a river for Arabs grin
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:59pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:
Your point is stupid. By you logic martial arts isnt part of Brazilian culture because it arrived in the 60s. The hijab has been worn for centuries among them. Lol you are mentally challenged dude. Dressing a certain way is part of ones culture.
Answer my question, shameless ignoramus.

Did Queen Amina of Zaria wear a hijab or Burqa, yes or no grin
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:58pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LMAO Small fry go and take it up with the spectator index (who excel at statistics and estimation BTW) not me. Even at 120 million hausa speakers outnumber swahili speakers and its not even close so the statement still stands. You think because it is spoken across some banana republics with little population they compare to our mighty language? LOL, Face it, We are infallible!
I am giving you facts and you are here saying rubbish.

Swahili is the official language of the EAC which comprises of 5 countries with 150 million people...
Where is Hausa language the official language of? Bring facts and not stupidity!

These 5 countries outnumber Nigeria in literacy levels and they now use Swahili in teaching advanced science courses in the universities like Physics & Chemistry. .... Can you even teach Integrated science with Hausa?

Swahili language is spoken by people who are more productive with it.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:53pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LOL Empire? Lmao! The kwararafa was a band of savages known for guerilla attacks and were too knuckle headed to sustain any conquest. They have never conquered the whole of hausa land. A region that has been laid to waste by multiple hausa kings at various points. In one occasion after he pillaged they offered him slaves (the only thing you lot are good for) which he refused. The biggest erect structure in the kwararafa before the brits was an ant hill. Spare me that BS.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwararafa

Read about Kwararafa and get some sense. It is from Wikipedia but read the references there!

And why didn't you talk about the Nok?

Fought which war? Lol! you people are deluded. Try anything foolish we dare you. We will remind you who we are and who you are. God have mercy on your souls.
See this nonentity... Everyone knows that 90% of the foot soldiers who fought the civil war against Biafra under Gowon where Northern Christians and Middlebelters. I lost uncles within my family and my hometown.. how many did you loose? Ignoramus.

Hausa fulanis were evicted from Tafawa Balewa town in Bauchi in 2011... That town is in Bauchi state which is over 70% Muslim. Go and reclaim that town.

You people started crisis, well prepared in Kaduna but in the entire south of Kaduna river there is no muslim dominated Angwa, but in the north of the river there are multiple Christian dominated Angwas.

All these conflicts where you people were dealt with, you people came well prepared to attack, but we were not even prepared but we still deal with you people. Imagine when we become well prepared?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:41pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LMAO And all your people are useful yeah? Funny thing is the best of yours is not even half as useful as the worst of ours.

But no one will make a dumb statement like arabs will lose their identity or that they've been subdued. The arabs will always be more ubiquitous than the jews and at one point in history the arabs quite literally owned the jews so i dont know where you get the confidence that their current dynamics wont change.
Keep waiting for the time when Arabs will dominate the Jews.... Jews who control the fabric of the Western civilization?
Arabs are already self destructing in their millions as you can see in the middle East.

LMAO, Listen here boy, you cant do anything to us unless that which we please. We are stronger, smarter and more powerful than you'll ever be so the only victories you can claim against us are the ones we allow. When the time is right, we will show our true power. You lot are crying now, you havent seen anything yet.
Nobody cares about the core-north or what happens there.... What I said is that those who have accepted your virus of backwardness through Islam among my own people will be sent to join you completely very soon... This has already been happening over the years.
Many indingene muslims from Plateau, Southern Kaduna and Gongola have been evicted from their ancestral communities to go and join Hausa fulani people.

Just remaining for it to be official. Which will come with the division of the country.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:32pm On Feb 27, 2020
Khaleell001:
They still feed you with their livestock and other farm produce which their southern counter parts can't produce.
The reforms Uthmān Dan Fodio brought are so. Numerous on a religious level and social level I can begin to estimate.

Before the correct information about Islām in the north women couldn't inherit, they were seen as mere chattels of pleasure and slaves were treated far less than dogs, but his grand redemption through the teaching if Islām changed all these then, but today many of his teaching gotten from Islām are not being followed through by mistake northerners except the memorization of the Qur'an with acting on the message.

It was Muslim scientist that helped shaped and gave the skeletal frame work of what we call science today. Is it in maths, chemistry, medicine and engineering?
I can name muslim scientist that gave science the foundation which other scientists are now building on till this date.

What were Christian during time of Galelio and Newton?
Burning them atbtge stakes blaming these scientist for heresies.

Please, when you try to bad mouth anything from Islām look well enough befirenyiu start snouting your mouth like a pig at what we do.
When I thought I have seen all the dumbness from Almajiris, more keep on coming in.
In your first paragraph, Southerners buy the food from us, we do not give them free of charge and if we talk about farming, the Middlebelt produces most of the foodcrops being bought by the south and not your semi-arid core-north..


Secondly, u claim Islam liberated the women of Hausa land and gave them more rights which is very false!
Hausa land has queens before Danfodio came and thank God the queen Amina of Zaria is a well known example.... How can a culture you claim that subjugates women make them queens of entire kingdoms? Can't you see how much of a shameless liar you are?
Danfodio brought the culture of stoning women to death according to Sharia, look at Hausaland and tell me how powerful Hausa fulani women are compared to Yoruba muslim woman today..

We are talking about the benefits of Danfodio and you are talking about things the Islamic empire of the middle East claim to have achieved which are lies? Can u even read well at all?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:24pm On Feb 27, 2020
engrchykae:
and you think El rufai is not doing his job in killing off these people you mentioned?
Killing of which people?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:23pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LOL Did any fulani man stop a hausa man from learning fulfulde? what about the majority of fulanis who speak hausa but not fulfulde? is that how you subdue people? by assimilating with them and adopting their identity? Northern nigerian architecture, marriage rites, ceremonies, etiquette, clothing etc. Whose is it? You clowns are so funny!
The Mughals conquered India but adopted Hindi language. Arabs conquered Iran but adopted Persian so it is not a new concept!
When conquerors have a small population compared to the conquered, they sometimes assimilate, but retain power...

You people don't know anything Sha oo, but you are here running your mouths as if you know something.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:12pm On Feb 27, 2020
Khaleell001:
Yorubas were not conquered by Uthmān Dan Fodio but became Muslims through trading with the Malian merchants .
These lies you keep spreading will end one day and you wil walk home with your tail between your legs
Yorubas being conquered by fulanis in Ilorin and being muslims through Mali are entirely different things .... Get some senses.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:10pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
More prosperous than hausas? LMAO! Dude, all our house helps are one of you. Your ethnicities are synonymous with suffering and misery in the north. No one even knows who most of you are. more prosperous than us? I laugh in mandarin!

But arabic like hausa is an afro asiatic language yet you still tried to shame hausas for using arabic names. See your hypocrisy?

Its not just that you people steal hausa names, its that you steal the funny ones. Imagine someone being called "kashe aure" "wahala" "bawa" and co LMAO cheesy

Dont worry about us, worry about your irrelevant people.
Can you kindly bring out the poverty rates of Kano, Katsina & Zamfara and compare them with of Plateau & Benue? Quick I am waiting.

How many of our girls are into househelp jobs compared to the number of roadside beggars, almajiris, Mai ruwa, Wheelbarrow pushers, Mai Aya, Mai rake, Parchen kafa and Yan talle?

Many maids have gotten their lives improved/better by their employers! At the office I was obtaining my passport in Delta state, I met a beautiful girl who was from Southern Kaduna also in line for her passport. I talked to her and the family she was working as a maid with were taking her with them to Dubai. .... How many of the category of Hausa people above can ever get something of such?
Many of our ladies from underdeveloped rural areas work as maids and use the money to fund their education, but your people beg for money on the roadside to marry new wives and breed more almajiris and you are talking of poverty?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 10:00pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
The story of inequality is uniformly the story of the country. Those two hausa men are richer than most ethnic groups combined.

LIES Hausa is the MOST SPOKEN indigenous african language, do your research. According to the spectator index hausa has 150 million speakers to swahilis 107 which given the demographic of hausa first and second language speakers sounds very accurate.

Stop moving the goal post, you claim we've lost our identity when on the contrary, we're the ones gulping up the identity of other ethnicities. A century of woes doesnt define us, we are blessed by God and we will rise again.
The inequality in the core-north is not the same with the inequality in other parts of Nigeria. The percentage of the middleclass among Southerners and Middlebelters is far higher than that of the core-north.
No basis of comparison.

Are you aware that Swahili is the official language of the EAC? A union of 5 East African countries with approx 150 million people?

Congo, Comoros, Malawi & Zambia where millions of people also speak Swahili are not included here.

Let us assume half of Nigeria speaks Hausa (100 million) which is not the case!... And everyone in Niger republic speaks Hausa (20 million) which is not the case!

Do you think the Hausa speakers in Northern Ghana, Northern Cameroon and Sudan can complete the 30 million in order to make it 150 million?
Do you think everyone on Nairaland is as dumb?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:47pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:
I dont understand how you guys be so dense. Culture is how a set of people express themselves. It doesn't matter where the hijab originated. It would be like claiming tea drinking isnt part of British culture because it came from China. Jiu Jitsu is not Brazilian cultural because the practice is asian in origin aswell.
There is a very big difference between culture and religion... Religion can become part of ones culture after a very long time of civilization and not just within a short time.
When did Hausa fulanis start wearing hijabs? Did Queen Amina of Zaria wear a hijab?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:44pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
We didnt bring any of that on you, you brought it on yourselves. What did you lot achieve before the brits? you lot were savages running around in your birthday suits. We tried to give you everything, even executed a coup and gave one of you the keys. How did you repay us? by stabbing us in the back like the barbarians you are.

Catching up with the deluded plonkers in the south is something to brag about? LOL! They are nothing but educated illiterates and they like you will remain in our shadows for as long as we please because you are inferior to us, all of you. You always will be.
We had the Kwararafan empire which conquered Hausa land and the Nok civilization before the British came, go and read up on that dummy.

Which coup did you organize and gave us which stupid key? If for anything, we were the ones who fought that civil war to keep the Nigeria you currently claim you are dominating as one. When we are tired, we will disband it. We are gradually becoming tired, so just wait for it.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:40pm On Feb 27, 2020
codemaniacs:
on NL and other Nigerian websites, Nigerians leave comments like "britain should come and re-colonize Nigeria", "Nigeria got its independence early".

the "Hausa fulani muslim core north" don't only look up to britain they also look up to s:audis, french, U.S e.t.c.

besides I was only explaining some things ( how people under a religion from colonialism are tied to their colonial thieves religiously, emotionally e.t.c.)....
how some black people put the opinion of white people or arabs above other black people opinions.
Many Nigerian Christians only say the first paragraph out of frustration, not that they actually mean it.

So many Black christians (especially the Igbos who are the African ethnicity with the largest population of Christians) hate and despise the British.... So I wonder what you are saying.

We only idolize the Western world for their progress and progressive values, same way the Indians and Asians and almost every other race (many of whom are not Christians and were not even colonized do).
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:36pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LMAO You said fulas practice their culture but hausas dont which is a bold face lie! Both ends of the extreme (nomadic fulanis and maguzawa) practice the old cultures. A northwestern classic hausa man today will relate easier to a northwestern fulani man in any city and vice versa. Maguzawas and herdsmen will find it very difficult to farternize with the north western man. The hausa - fulani tag though not an ethnicity on its own is an amalgamation of two concepts that any group which finds itself outside of the spectrum will find very hard to identify with. The urban hausas and fulanis have created a culture that transcends their ordinary selves.
I wasn't the one who said that... Someone else said it and I quoted him. Go back and check very well.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:30pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
Dangote is illiterate
Abdulsamad Rabiu is illiterate
Maitama sule is illiterate
IBB is illiterate
Abdulsalam Abubakar is illiterate
The people are the privileged few of the mixed elite class.
1 good egg in a crate of bad ones cannot make the majority useful

These are the products of a subdued ethnic group. And what then do we say about your people who im sure no one has ever even heard about? The most spoken indigenous african language and the largest african ethnicity is subdued. LMAO What a clown. Nahh your people who shamelessly speak hausa and claim hausa names, the ones abandoning their ethnicity, they're the ones you should weep for. You think there is ever a scenario where hausas turn on fulanis? if theres anyone hausas will want to get rid off its you two faced gutless northern minorities. If Dan fodio is bad for bringing an islamic and political revolution what do you say about hausa kings like muhammad rumfa, ali yaji and muhammad kisoki who were responsible for laying the foundations of islam in kano through war as well?

Focus on your irrelevant people and leave us alone. We dont need your faux sympathy.
Arabic is more spoken than Hebrew but the native speakers of the latter have been more productive and powerful than the former was, is and ever will be.

The only middlebelt tribes who abandon their ethnicity and culture for Hausa fulani ones are those who contacted the virus from the spread of Islam... And when the time comes, we will send those ones to join you in your retrogressive and unproductive society.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:23pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:
Lol they're stupid and illiterate for centuries? You exuse mongers will always have justification for being foolish. It's not surprising losers relate to other losers. Nobody is stopping them from gaining literacy or enlightenment. The south doesn't depend solely on pubic school.

Nobody forced these marriages clown. If they want change they will make it happen. They not forced to obey they spouses wishes unquestionaing. Are you whiped in your household?

Lol people like youself dont even know the badic history. You only have a dumb narrative thst can't hold up to basic logic. You dont csre yet whining about dan Fodio more than any hausa on the internet.
Yes, Hausa land has been illiterate and brainwashed by religion for centuries, the same way Black Sudanese people of Nubian ancestry claim they are Arabs today grin

Yes, someone is stopping the Hausa masses from gaining literacy and that is the minority % fulani mixed elite and religious class who control their society...

Why don't you tell us the correct stuff since you know it more .... Nairaland is available for the whole world to read and learn.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:17pm On Feb 27, 2020
Khaleell001:
Did you read how they lead their lives before the coming of Uthmān Dan Fodio reforming their way of life.
And I still insist it was a better deal they would have done anything to bargain for even till this day.

You folks always claiming superior knowledge of everything when it comes to the north, whereas you are nothing more than a rabble rouser with no known knowledge whatsoever you keep insisting on knowing hot airs and foolishly keep peddling half truths and no truths for your ignorant zombies who are always willing to like your quotes at a go.

Shaykh Uthmān Dan Fodio (may Allāh have mercy on him) was indeed an enigma in West Africa that even you fore fathers will do anything to re enact his sweeping reforms he carried out in the northern sub region till date.

And his religious teachings and legacies are still there for all to see and still remain unmatched by the greatest of your fore fathers.
Looking at the lives of Hausa fulani people today, mention one good thing which is a product of Danfodio's legacy.

I dare you.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
Khaleell001:
As if there was anything like Christianity in the north before the colonial masters came bulldozing their way through.

Most clearly lack the objectivity to deal with the topic at hand.
Colonialism brought about education and enlightenment and enlightenment brought about a more civilized behavior.

Missionaries who would have come before colonialism would clearly have been killed or eaten.

Also, colonialism brought about roads to the hinterlands which the missionaries could not be able to navigate before that time.

Why was christianity in parts of the coastal South before colonialism?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:11pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LMAO The only people who bear hausa names today are your people. Arent you ashamed? you left your names for that of hausas? oh right, you didnt really have a choice. Your people were actually slaves. Always have been, always will be.
Have you ever seen where a slave lives a better and is more progressive life than his master?

Have you ever seen where a master does manicure (Parchen Kafa) for his slave? See mugu.

If our people bear Hausa names, there is no shame in it because Hausa is a Chadic language (indigenous African language). Many middlebelt tribes are also of Chadic origins and speak Chadic languages (related to Hausa)...
It is far better we answer Chadic names than English names.

Besides, Hausa names have died among our people. People don't give it to their children anymore... Show me one person from my region who is a youth and has a Hausa first name.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 9:04pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
Stop spreading lies. The phrase hausa christian is an oxymoron. These imposters do not speak or represent what we stand for. Fodio only finished what hausa kings like yaji and rumfa started. Hausas still are and remain prosperous. The two richest men in the north are hausas. Most prominent business men including two past presidents are of hausa descent. The most spoken indigenous african language is hausa. The largest ethnicity in the continent is hausa. See the holy union between hausas, fulanis and other muslim northern ethnicities has made the hausas infallible. You will die of jealousy and hatred.
So a handful of millionaires and billionaires amongst 90% of poverty stricken and illiterate people is prosperity? Are you sure you don't need to have your head checked?

That is the highest form of slavery of the masses to an elite few.

The most spoken indigenous African language is SWAHILI. It has official status in Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Comoros, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo e.t.c
Where is Hausa regarded as an official language?

Besides, how does a large population of poor illiterates portends any good? There are hundreds of millions of Arabs in the world, but there are only several million Jews, yet the Arabs are inferior to the Jews who control the world.

Holy union of poverty, illiteracy, terrorism and backwardness. grin
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:58pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
You see theres nothing more pathetic than northern christians like you. Your envy and hatred for the core north is laughable considering we gave you life. Without us you are nothing.

The whites didnt force anything on you. They just beat maimed and enslaved the south. Saw them as nothing other than apes because they like you lived like barbarians. And when they were done bludgeoning you they ingratiated themselves with you using the same religion they used to justify the atrocities against you. And it worked perfectly, you buffoons even thank them for it. LMAO
Who did you give life?

All that you people have brought to we middlebelters and northern minorities is nothing but backwardness, terrorism, poverty, illiteracy...

Mention one good thing I dare you.

I thank God that most of us have left/are now leaving your backwardness unlike many years ago... Educationally we are catching up to the South unlike decades ago when we were at the same level with you people.

Your second paragraph was barbarian English. I don't speak that. You can meet your cousins of poverty and backwardness in Niger republic, they are the ones who speak that.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:53pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dupamecano:
LMAO You lot have no knowledge on the north whatsoever. What do you mean wiped out hausa culture? just as herdsmen practice the old way of life of the fulanis, maguzawas still practice the old ways of the people now known as hausas. Hausa tradition and culture from wedding and ceremonies to food to mode of dressing is very different from that of arabs or muslims. Culture is not defined by dancing like a possessed ape. You say fodio made hausas forsake their names, but read the names of hausa kings before fodios war. Especially those in kano who adopted muslim names since the 10/11th century. Your hatred and bile for northerners is shameless.
And why do Maguzawa Hausas still practice the old ways of the Hausas? Was it not because they rejected the virus of Islam brought by Danfodio?

I wonder the rubbish you are explaining above.

Of course, Hausas will not abandon every aspect of their culture, cos not even the Pakistanis or Iranians or even Arabs completely abandoned their cultures for Islam. .... The only thing that unites all the groups mentioned above is that many of them have adopted Islam as their culture and find it very difficult to distinguish between their culture and religion.

So many Hausas will be ready to swear to you that Hijab is their culture. ... What foolishness could be more than this?
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:48pm On Feb 27, 2020
AfrokanGod:
The British empire burnt the Benin empire to ashes while also killing and looting its treasures, Go tell a Benin man he accepted Christianity on his own free will. Religion was an afterthought to the colonist, their first mission was to plunder the wealth of the colonised nation and they found out forcing their religion on their subject was one way to achieve their aim. King leopard came to congo under the guise to bringing religion to the savage congolease, he sought and got permission from the catholic church.

Nigerians had it better, south Americans where killed in their millions, the Congolese were also killed in their millions.

Christianity and Islam were spread by force, without force and subjugation how do you convince a man your god is better than is?

Read about the Spanish Inquisition, Read about the King leopards Colonization of congo, read about the Crusade.
Nobody will ever argue that the British did not destroy our civilizations or conquer us.

My point is never you try to mix Christian evangelism in Africa to that of colonialism.

If you tell me that christianity was forced on native Americans and the black slaves in the Americas, I will not argue with you. ... Today there are religions like the Santeria of Cuba and Candomblé of Brazil which evolved as a result of African slaves mixing native religions and christianity cos they were mandated to practice Catholicism, hence they had to hide their traditions under Catholicism.

Are you aware that in the North, the British promoted Islam? During the indirect rule? Northern Nigeria would have been 50/50 or Christian majority today if not that the British colonialists banned missionaries from entering into towns or villages where mosques or Muslims were already in existence, no matter how few they were.
So I wonder how on Earth, according to you, People who have forced christianity on us were promoting Islam in the north.

Why did the British not force christianity on India who they ruled for centuries?
Bro, pls go and read a book and stop embarrassing yourself! The British colonialists had no business with Christianity or religion... They even preferred Muslims. Hence they always favoured Muslims/Islam over paganism as was seen in India, Sudan and Nigeria.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:29pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:
You're anology is stupid no matter how you rationalize it clown. Hausa's freely elected them and have every opportunity to change policies. Even they're in charge its still the same thing. Only idiots believe the problem with the region is mainly correlated to fulani or ceremonial institutions. When britsh came they could have adopted new ideas but chose not to.

The fulani are minority and won't be going anywhere. If losers use that foolish excuse they'll never develop. The state can abolish the traditional institutions anytime it likes. Abacha deposed the sultan once upon a time. Their issues have moved past dan fodio. The policies practiced are their issue.
Hausas are not free or wise enough to know what is good for them politcally cos first of all. The overwhelming majority of them are illiterates and hungry people who do what the fulani leaders tell them to do. Give the Hausa masses literacy and enlightenment and watch them send your asses back to Futa jallon!

Were Northern Christian minorities not in romance with the caliphate in the past? What changed?

Fulanis have infiltrated Hausa society beyond the traditional leaders, so the deposition of the traditional ruler won't change anything. Majority of Hausa elites, middle-class, scholars and Clergymen have been intermarried into fulani families.

Personally for me, I don't even care how poverty continues to ravage Hausa muslims.... Hausa Muslims and northern minority Muslims can perish with their Fulani leadership for all I care.
We just have to remind you people of your failures especially when you bring something like this here.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:20pm On Feb 27, 2020
Bialegend:
Shekau is even better than usman dan fodio to be sincere. When you talk about a real terrorists, you should think of usman danfodio that destroyed a whole ethnic group called hausa.
Thousands and thousands of ethnic groups and civilizations have been destroyed and supplanted. Hausa is just one of them.
The 2-4 million Hausa Christians who live in rural areas of Katsina, Zaria & Kano at least cannot be destroyed cos they never contacted that evil virus of deception spread through Islam.

They are the only hope of the preservation of whatever existed of a once large and prosperous African race (Hausas).
Dozens of indigenous tribes in Bauchi & Yobe have also been destroyed but I wonder why nobody talks about them.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:13pm On Feb 27, 2020
MetaPhysical:
...far worse than that. He wiped off their cultural identity.

Musa Muhammed
Abubakar Isa
Ibrahim Suleiman
Yunusa Mamman
Yussuf Abdullahi

These are names you see in Hausaland, their own indigeneous names are wiped out. Gone...forgotten forever!

They used to have masquerades and babalawos and aborishas, they are all killed off. Hausas have forgotten their drum beats and dance steps. Because fulani told them it is sin to play music and dance....they said Muhammed will be upset.

Meanwhile, fulani refuse to let go of its own ancestral tradition of cow herding. Fulani do sharo and have not cared wether it upsets Muhammed or not. But they told Hausa their cultural practice offends Muhammed.

They wiped out Hausa tradition and said it was offensive to Allah...but the munafikis continue to practice bestiality and Bleep cows and even swap women.

Now Hausas get on dance floor and move like Indians and Arabs....their African dance steps have left them....no rhythym, no flow....just rigid steps!

May Allah wipe fulani off the face of this earth for its multiple atrocities and hatred to mankind.
Fulanis are offsprings of Arab/Berber soldiers from North Africa who enslaved and raped Black West African women. Fulanis themselves don't know their history. They are offsprings of rape. Maternally they are related to us Black West Africans, this is why they speak a West African language. However, their paternal seed is from people who have enslaved and keep on enslaving Black people till date (Arabs).

So they are still in West Africa to keep on with that legacy, but very soon their time will be up. This I can promise them.

Yes! Hausas would have just been like Yoruba muslims today had it been Danfodio had not destroyed them. They would have been very tolerant and still hold on to their traditional values, customs, masquerades and festivals the way Yoruba muslims do.

Anyway, just to let you know that Hausa culture is not completely lost/wiped off.
There are 2-4 million Hausa Christians/pagans who are mostly centred in the deep rural areas of Zaria, Katsina & Kano and these ones still manage to hold on to the ancestral Hausa culture, traditions, festivals and even the traditional religion .... Although it is heavily and largely fading away and on the verge of extinction. It may not survive the next 25 years.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 8:01pm On Feb 27, 2020
codemaniacs:
the same way Nigerian christians appear to worship white people.

some Nigerian christians look up to britain for leadership.
No Nigerian Christian looks up to Britain for leadership except Anglican Church members.
It is rather the Hausa fulani muslim core north who look up to Britain for the support to keep their colonial estate intact.
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:59pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:
You're another clown that doesn't know the historical context. Now it's dan Fodio fault they're are poor centuries after. You guys have mumu logic. By that logic it's luggards fault nigeria a 3rd would country 60 years after independence. Lol losers will always find someone to blame maintain their victim narratives.

The problems thst exist that region can bea result of policies they had. Everyome else manages to advance but you excuse mongers are blind to it.
You don't know analogies.

Yes it's Danfodio's fault that Hausa land is poor because Danfodio's descendants who maintain and uphold his ideologies and legacy still controls the leadership structures of Hausa land.

Like someone once said. Fulanis are the colonial masters who never left. The British left!
PoliticsRe: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:55pm On Feb 27, 2020
DennisEche:
In as much as you You made a good point, I did like to point out some few errors, Kwankwaso and ganduje are both Fulani's, the only Hausa man to have rule Kano state as a was Shekarau . You can imagine how they have conquered the hausas even though they are the majority in Kano yet all Kano govs and emir of kano are Fulani, take ilorin for instance, what is Fulani population there yet is only Fulani man that can occupy that position of emir of ilorin
Shekarau is a Baburr man from Southern Borno.

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