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LegendHer0:
Lol. For every one you provide there are countless better area. I can't even start mentioning them.

Sometimes you have to drill down into them. Ibadan is not only those axis you are talking about. Some of you will just pass through some axis and start saying you know Ibadan lol.

Just try using the street view feature of some of these places.

I had 4 screenshots I wanted to post but I couldn't cos the file size was too large.

Okay, let's do it this way. I want you to list the modern suburbs of Ibadan for me, I will go through them and see how large of an area they occupy.

If we say we should go by these screenshots, I'm sure I can post 40 different screenshots of Ibadan brown roof areas and you will not see the name of any single edifice in 2 different screenshots, but I doubt you can do this for the modern areas.


See, you Yorubas should just tell yourselves the truth... The same pattern of brown & rusty houses is the same pattern in Ogbomosho, Oshogbo, Abeokuta, Oyo, Iwo, Ikirun, Ilesha, Iseyin and the overwhelming majority of your towns/cities. ...... There is no reason why Ibadan should be any different.

You people do not renovate your houses, why is this so? Houses that were built since the colonial cocoa era are still the same way 70 years ago, no single renovation? Why?

Agboriotejoye:
I already said you have poor knowledge of what you're doing. Kindly share the metrics you're using to determine a city. In case you don't know, jebba, which lies on the boundary of Niger/Kwara states is two. There's jebba north, separate town, LGA, king everything from jebba south. I'm sure according to you, both will be one jebba. Bros comot there. MFYI madalla, zuba are on the road to Kaduna. You can't add them to Abuja if you really know Abuja. They are in Niger state.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_area

Read this above and learn to educate your ignorance!

A city is different from an Urban area/metropolitan area.

Ikorodu is a different city from Lagos city, but it is part of Greater Lagos urban area or metropolitan area. Educate yourself before you come online to disgrace yourself.

Look at the topic of the thread, it is city/urban areas. Urban/metropolitan areas are a connurbation of towns & cities which are connected socially, economically and infrastructurally... They are not divided by even national boundaries let alone state or district boundaries.

Pick up a book and read. I repeat Pick up a book and read.

Suleja & Karu developed to the way they did because of Abuja. Majority of people in these places have their lives connected to Abuja.

You are mistaking Abuja to mean Abuja municipal only.... That is very wrong, ignorant and myopic.

That is just like saying Onitsha should be Onitsha only without Nkpor & Obosi or Jos should be without Bukuru, or Warri should be Warri south alone, without Uvwie & Udu or PH should be without Choba, Oyigbo & Ogoni.


Go and learn to understand what an Urban or metropolitan area is abeg.

myobjective:
I used to have this mindset until I visited Ibadan. Some estate in Ibadan are so fine and serene that you will think you are in Maitama. Akure and Ibadan are the two city I'm planning to move to whenever I decide to move than south but Ibadan due to her closeness to Lagos and the rail link is obviously my first choice.

LegendHer0:
I always watch some ignorant folks online. They always use Molete-Bode-Oja Oba-Bere area to depicit Ibadan online like that is what Ibadan actually look like lol.

Ibadan has lot of housing estates, while even the Challenge - Orita - Oluyole Estate - Academy - Ajila Estate - etc alone has lot of housing and better placed industries. Industries along that New Garage -Podo Area - Down to Odo-Ona Kekere alone self plenty.

Not even talking of all those Bodija, Dugbe, Agodi GRA etc.

Agboriotejoye:
Dude has never been to Ibadan. He's using google map to determine how modernised a city is. I was in Ibadan last Christmas and the fun i had compared favourably with Lagos.
Kano for example has only one shoprite mall while Ibadan has two not to count other malls that can compete favourably with shop rite that exist in Ibadan.

You guys are just being very economical with the truth of Ibadan. .... Nobody is denying the fact that Ibadan has good, modern and nice places.

The point is that the dusty, rusty and congested areas are the overwhelming majority.

After all the noise you guys are making here I just typed Ibadan is Google maps and viewed it very well and the modern areas without brown roofs were just like 25%... The areas I immediately zoomed into and moved around were all brown and here are the screenshots I took of entirely different neighbourhoods. Shuo!

Agboriotejoye:
You can't blame anyone but yourself for denouncing your shoddy job. Why will someone in Germany be measuring cities in Nigeria? Does that even make sense to you? A researcher with poor knowledge of his subject. Trash it!!

The person who did the measurement just left Nigeria to Germany few years ago, does that destroy all his knowledge of Nigeria?

If you go to Canada today, does it mean you cannot talk about Nigeria as well as you currently can in the next few years? Stop acting like a sentimental teenage girl on her period.

Upworkwriter007:
Now i'm confused, shouldn't a location be in a state to be the states urban area. like can u have lagos urban area in ogun state or Ibadan?

Agboriotejoye:
Nope. I'll give him 20. He has no knowledge of what he's getting about

No! This is where we get it wrong.

Take Canada for example. Ottawa-Gatineau is considered one urban/metropolitan area cos it is merged together. The economy and social life is intertwined and the govt of Canada considers it one metropolitan-urban area.

However, Gatineau is in Quebec province while Ottawa is in Ontario province.... One has French as it's official language while the other English.

This is the same thing with Washington... It has developed into neighbouring states, yet it is still considered one metro urban area.

An urban area or metropolitan area is defined by how connected socially, economically and infrastructurally these towns are to each other... It is not based on political classifications.

There are even urban areas being shared by different countries

Agboriotejoye:
You are not knowledgeable in dis matter. I suggest you drop it. Suleja is not under Abuja be it geographically or politically. Suleja is in Niger state. Adding it to Abuja is like adding fiditi to Ibadan. Same with karu

Grgton:
yes it will stop them. the state boundaries do not but Agbara, Sango ota, ibafo in Lagos State..

You people are the Ignorant one here oga...

Madalla/Zuba are in FCT, but Suleja is in Niger state.... Madalla/Zuba and Suleja are one urban area, you cannot separate one from the other..... Same way Mararaba-Nyanya has some parts in FCT and others in Nasarawa state.

FCT is not a state, it is just a small area carved out from present day Nasarawa, Niger & Kogi states to serve as FCT.


Get this and stop embarrassing yourselves... Urban and metropolitan areas are not measured based on states... Rather they are measured on how development spreads and how connected these suburbs are socially, economically and infrastructurally.

For example, Kaduna city is divided by a river and that river is to be the boundary for the creation of Gurara state (for Southern Kaduna people)... If this is achieved, does it now make Kaduna city 2 entirely different cities?

Biafrarep:
Using landmass to guage a city can be misleading. This is because some cities maximize land use while others waste it. For instance, in most other parts of Nigeria, bungalow and one storey buildings are prevalent but in the East, people hardly build bungalows. In cities like Onitsha and Aba, you can see large blocks of highrise buildings stretching for as far as your eyes can see. So population density per square kilometer will be very high unlike places like Kano, Ibadan, Abuja etc where low buildings are more in number.

Thank you very much for this.

Some Igbos are already here lamenting thinking that the fact that SE cities are smaller means less population, but that is not true.

SE/SS cities build storey buildings far far more compared to the north. Land is very cheap, available and everywhere in the north, so people do not bother to build storey buildings.

Jos may be twice the size of Aba in Landmass, but population wise, they should be the same!

Agboriotejoye:
He should remove all those suleja/zuba/karu. Suleja/zuba for example is in Niger state not Abuja and karu too is not part of Abuja. Op is confused

Upworkwriter007:
mararaba is in nassarawa.....suleja is in niger state.....If Kuje to Nyaya is far, then you need to check the urban areas of ib out...Olodo is an urban area in IB that the guy left out...i know this areas bro

What exactly are you guys arguing?

Parts of Suleja & Karu are in Nasarawa & Niger states, does that stop these places from being part of Abuja urban area?

Agbara, Sango Ota, Ibafo e.t.c, are all these places not located in Ogun state? Does it stop them from being part of greater Lagos Urban area?

LegendHer0:
You shouldn't compare Ibadan to Kano especially after the current system of government which took real power away from the regions.

Kano is like the Lagos of the North. Infrastructure, business, etc. will be more concentrated in Kano going by normal rule of thumb because Kano is the major meeting point of the North.

Ibadan is still doing far better than Kano when you compare certain socio-economic metrics with that of Kano.

Kano does not have exclusive domination of the north. Kaduna can give Kano a run for it's money in almost every aspect.

Ibadan is doing better than Kano in Human development index definitely because Hausa fulani people are largely illiterate. Nothing else.

myobjective:
Bro, believe me, Ibadan is better than Kano, I have been to both city and I can tell. The modern part of Kano is much smaller than that of Ibadan.

Apart from the oil-producing states and Lagos, Kano earn the highest revenue from the federation account due to her perceived population and the number of local government, so it should more be developed as it is also easier to develop infrastructure like road in the north-west than south-west due to rainfall and soil condition.

This is very very false.
The modern parts of Ibadan can never be bigger than the modern parts of Kano.

Use Google maps right now to view Ibadan and Kano closely, then come back and repeat this statement.

80% of the houses and suburbs in Ibadan look very very brown and dusty from above! And very congested too!

Area4Area:
For Onitsha, you left out some parts of Ogidi, Oba, Awada, Nkwelle, Ogbunike and Nkpor especially that Nkpor-uno and Eke Nkpor areas. So many places you left out

Nkwelle & Nkpor were fully included, look at it well. It is Ogbunike and Oba that were not included. ...

Anambra has a similar problem with Lagos state ...Almost every part of the state is urbanized and many towns are merged together. You will end up including Nnewi, Awka & Ozubulu if you follow town to town measurement for Onitsha.

mrvitalis:
Bros your trick just rubbish .... anyone taking u serious is just wasting time

Where is futo ? Where is imo poly ?

Can you see that there is a red and white line measurement in these maps?

The red line are the places Google maps officially define as that city.... However, the white lines are gotten by zooming to see the extent of urbanization...

I'm sure you have a laptop? Why don't you do these measurements yourself and come post it here to buttress your points.

See the way you are childishly crying asking for FUTO and Imo poly as if Google maps will capture every single name of every building from thousands of feets above.

And for you to say that bushes were measured in Kaduna & Jos shows how deluded you are.

This is Jos below, follow the white lines and not the red lines... The white lines were what we used for measurement!
The only bushy part within the white lines of Jos measurement is the JOS WILDLIFE PARK! This wildlife park is an integral part of Jos city, it is not a forest outside the city, there are suburbs surrounding every part of that wildlife park.

mrvitalis:
Bros u still measured rubbish in umuahia why leave out umudike ? Why is it a separate town

See how u measured others but Igbo cities u minimise what are u trying to portray ?

See how u added bushes to kaduna and Jos just to make them look big ...seee how u measured ibadan from high level but zoomed it to measure igbos cites Bros u na scam

You see, you Igbos always have a victim mentality even when the situation does not warrant it and believe you me, this kind of mentality never helps anyone.

These measurements were carried out by a friend of mine who lives in Germany, you can see that the language of measurement is in German. And to burst your bubble, he is an Igbo man! Yes you heard me right.

A Yoruba person enlightened me on how 1 or 2 suburbs of Ibadan were left out in the measurement, but he did not go all out sentimental as you are now doing. ...

In this measurement, this Igbo friend of mine did not include Mararaban Jos (a suburb of Kaduna) to his measurement. Ibafo was not included in the Lagos measurement. Same with parts of Abuja ... That was why I have a disclaimer above.

If Umudike is added to Umuahia, will it make Umuahia up to 200km²? One or 2 suburbs cannot be more than 10km².

mrvitalis:
Owerri is what I want to see how it was measured

Here you go

mrvitalis:
Again

Uyo bigger than owerri u must be smoking coke ....see how u stylishly didn't measure parts of onitsha just to make it look small

Uyo that someone can jog from ifa to itam or. Nwaniba to itam is what u want to compare with owerri

What do u guys even gain with all this lies

Pls there was no mischief intended in this measurement... Nkpor, Obosi & Nkwelle are the major satellite towns/suburbs of Onitsha and they were added.. Should Ogbunike & Oba be added too?

Almost the entire Anambra state is urbanized... If you want to include everywhere into Onitsha, you will end up measuring the entire Anambra state.

Onitsha is densely populated, but in terms of Landmass. No.

Iamgrey5:
Good work op, but you often misunderstand the population distribution and urban nature of ibadan.

A lot of places you left out in your map on ibadan actually represent a huge chunk of modern ibadan city where majority of the average educated and exposed people live. This is because Land in those areas are cheap when compared to the the ibadan metropolitan area you often capture in your map.


Places like Iyana offa, igbona and oleyo should be in your map.

Thank you very much for this enlightenment..
If these places you mentioned are added, then Ibadan could be up to 600km²... Still not enough to displace Abuja.

No hatred intended, but personally I feel Ibadan an urban area so large in size is not living up to it's potentials... Imagine Ibadan being bigger than Kano, but it cannot compare Kano in terms of finance, businesses, industries, infrastructure and cosmopolitanism.
Ibadan, as well as many other Yoruba cities are experiencing a very serious brain drain if you ask me.
Lagos is taking away all Yoruba elites, intellectuals and entrepreneurs and this is not really good.

Cc
Okeyglm, movic1, myobjective, westbestside, Legendhero, Biafrarep, win12345, Johnsonsolafunmi, Iamgrey5, celeiyke, mrvitalis, spendoon

Onitsha, Asaba, Maiduguri, Zaria

Abeokuta, Ado-Ekiti, Umuahia, Uyo

Ibadan, Jos, Kaduna, Port Harcourt

ABUJA

Many people wrongly assume that the size of a city/urban area is exactly the same thing with the size of the LGA(s) it occupies, but that is very wrong...
This is because the LGA(s) may not be entirely urbanized as a large part or some part of it may consist of Water, Swamps, Forests, Rivers, Creeks e.t.c with an uneven topography which does not support development...

Thank God for the increasingly available technologies like Google satellite maps which helps us to view the world from above and even take measurements.
There is a feature on Google maps that allows you to measure land area and it is with that feature that all the readings below were obtained.

Disclaimer*. The measurements below are not 100% correct as 1 or 2 neighborhoods/suburbs may not be included as part of a city/urban area it belongs to in the process of the measurement..
However, to a large extent this helps to give us a clue or picture as to how large or small certain Nigerian cities/urban areas are.



1] LAGOS TOTAL - Over 1,700km²

a. Lagos urban (including Lekki, Ikeja, Ota, Ifo) - Over 1,270km²
b. Ikorodu urban (including Gberigbe, Agbede, Ogijo) - Over 250km²
c. Agbara-Magbon-Badagry -over 120km²


2] ABUJA TOTAL - Over 850km²

a. Abuja municipal - Over 459km²
b. Karu Urban(including Orozo) - over 188km²
c. Madalla/Zuba- Suleja urban - over 113km²
d. Gwagwalada - 32km²
e. Bwari - 23km²

3] IBADAN - Over 562km²

4] KANO - Over 500km²

5] KADUNA - Over 440km²

6] PORT HARCOURT (including Oyigbo, Choba, Etche, Ogoni)- Over 390km²

7] BENIN - Over 340km²

8] JOS (including Bukuru)- Over 320km²

9] ABEOKUTA - Over 227km²

10] WARRI (including Uvwie, Udu) - Over 200km²

11] UYO - Over 194km²

12] OWERRI - Over 184km²

13] AKURE - Over 179km²

14] ENUGU - Over 172km²

15] MAIDUGURI - Over 169km²

16] ABA - Over 154km²

17] MAKURDI - Over 126km²

18] SOKOTO - Over 124km²

19] ONITSHA (including Nkpor, Obosi, Nkwelle) - Over 120km²

20] ZARIA - Over 120km²

21] OGBOMOSHO - Over 115km²

22] ADO-EKITI - Over 114km²

23] ASABA (including Okpanam, Igbuzor) - Over 113km²

24] KATSINA -Over 109km²

25] CALABAR, UMUAHIA, BAUCHI & YOLA-JIMETA - Over 100km²

LegendHero:
Bro let me tell you something, I am a Yoruba and a Muslim. However, my ethnicity comes first and I will never sacrifice my ethnicity for religion.

However, as a Muslim, the North never gave us a reason to be proud of the Islamic faith coz they have been a curse to the faith rather than blessings due to their rigid ideology.

Do you know how much we had to defend the Islamic religion online due to the atrocities the North are using it for? You don’t know how much you guys have invested into sending people away from the faith.

Times are changing bro, even Saudi is modifying her laws.

Good comment.

I was traveling from Bauchi to Yola recently and in our bus we had a Yoruba muslim who dressed with kaftan and that white muslim cap and was trying his best to look very Islamic (perhaps to impress the northern muslims- I'm not sure)...

For the 8 hours journey that we travelled together, the Yoruba Muslim guy could only gist and socialize with we the Northern christians (who could speak English and pidgin very well) .
He felt like a complete outcast among the Hausa fulani muslims who dominated the vehicle just because he couldn't speak Hausa. .... They were even talking to him angrily at one time....
Everyone in the vehicle spoke Hausa and when the Yoruba guy speaks English, only we the Christians responded to him, the Hausa fulani muslims did not

I just shook my head at him. .... Some very foolish Yoruba/Igala/Edo muslims think that they have Muslim Hausa brothers in the north whom they can feel free with , but they eventually get the shock of their lives when they are among Hausa fulanis...

ibibiogrl:
Notice I said in my quote don't forget Ibibiogirl? Meaning Calabar girl(Efik) is completely different from Ibibio girl.

They problem is that U refused to respect these groups tradition and cultures. Making them to come around insulting each other I gave u a thread to read to learn about their histories, but U Refuse. If U wrote Eket-ibibio, u will not cause any commotion or receive any insult. Because despite speaking different dialects, Eket practice the same cultures and tradional beliefs as Ibibio, thereby they are considered a subgroup of ibibio. Same with Oron/Efik despite being in different states. Again there's nothing like AkwaCross and absolutely nothing like Calabarians What u are writing is similar to forcing Ijaw to become Igbo and abandon all their tradition and histories and ancient beliefs and adopt the Igbo cultures just because their lands are close together, so that they can become one group under a single umbrella.

No you are wrong... What beachside is saying is the way Okrikas, Kalabaris, Ibanis, Ogbias, Epies, Engennis, Arogbos, Nembes, Izons e.t.c all unite themselves under one umbrella term (IJAW) even though they speak entirely different languages and have different cultures, food, dressings and customs!

Arogbos & Apois in Ondo state still identify as Ijaws even though Arogbo people speak Yoruba as a 2nd language, while Apoi have completely switched to Yoruba as their mother tongue.

Same way most Ibani people in Bonny & Opobo have switched to Igbo as their mother tongue, but still identify as Ijaws.

AmuDimpka:
Your stupidity is legendary.... For you to say Igbo is a recent term...do you think that we are like you ..the word Igbo means ancient that is why we call ourselves NdiGboo (shortened Ndị Igbo ) meaning the ones that are ancient

It's only in Igbo land that you see people bearing the names of their town like igbokwe, Nwosu Igbo, igboma , igbodike , Nwaigbo


It's only in Igbo land that you have towns Igbo Igbo land cardinal points bearing Igbo to show they are Igbo irrespective of the dialect
In the Igbo north (Enugu axis ) we have Igbo Etiti
In South the rivers we have Ọbigbo
In central we have Igbo Ukwu ( Anambra )
In West have Igbuzor (Delta State ) and Akwukwu Igbo


Igbo have been in existence (independently for centuries and these independent clans identify themselves as Igbo for centuries !)

Even the Igbo at the fringes of cross river (Isobo) and the ones at fringes of AKS identify themselves as Igbo for centuries


I think that what is worrying you is minority mentality..where every clan is a nation....why don't you guys with Efik, Annang etc pull your resources together and form a stronger block ....it's because of this stupidity that you allowed then to give out bakassi without even a fight (bunch of cowards ) both Efiks, Annangs, Ibibio etc should be ashamed of that bakkasi and also should be ashamed for the low development in their region...

Leave Igbo alone, they are far ahead and they want their country which they don't seem to invite you guys ! From the look of things !

Put your house in order

Beachside is not wrong.
Yes there was an identity known as Igbo before the colonial masters came, however that identity did not cover everyone who is an Igbo person today. The Igbo identity only applied to a section of Igbo people in the past and not everyone.

Nsukka, Nkanu, Enuani, Ukwuani, Ikwerres, Ngwas, Ezza-Izzi e t c people never identified themselves as Igbo people before colonial masters came....

Same with Yoruba... The Yoruba identity originally belonged to Oyo people only, but the British united everyone else under this identity.

ibibiogrl:
Really The oil wells in Ibeno-Eket should have been for Cross River state Yet those are in Ibibioland So Igbo was coined in 1970 to represent all Igbo speaking groups, yet those groups have names with Igbo from centuries ago names begining and ending with Igbo. E.g. Igbokwe,IgboUkwu etc. I will leave Igbos to answer that.
U don't even understand the basic differences between Efik, Ibibios and Annang, simply because they speak a similar langauge, you think they split form each other I gave example of Spanish, French and Italian because thou those groups speak similar langauges, they're are not the same due to their different cultures. Do U know how the Efik name came about and the true meaning of that name If they were truly 1 with Ibibios Y
What U refused to READ to understand despite my giving u the link to a thread where someone asked this question to undesrstand Y?
Efik, Annang and Ibibio might be speaking a pigin language of a sort mixed with their orignal languages, which is why some words are completely different like the Feces example I gave. Unlike the Igbo groups & Yoruba groups who despite speaking different dialects they all practice same traditions and have same beliefs. Whereas Efiks and Oron have more in common with some Cameroun groups like Ejagham, which they have admited that they migrated from Cameroun. Annang including their name and some of their matriachal cultures migrated from Ghana.
These groups just migrated to live next to Ibibio or were hosted by a small group of Ibibio(uruan) and adopted a few Ibibio traditions like Uruan adopted lots from Efik. Now U believe they split from each other If U Read the thread I gave U, you would've understood all as the people from those grous came to expalin their cultures & traditions. WHAT IS MY BUISNESS WITH THE DENIAL OF THE AKS JUDGE

For a lady, I really admire your knowledge and courage about your people, please keep it up.

However, let me correct you on some mistakes.

1) The differences between Ibibios, Efiks, Anangs and Orons cannot be compared to that of Spanish, Italian & French, rather it is more like the difference between Castillia, Galicia, Andalusia & Catalonia..
What is officially known as Spanish is CASTILLIAN.... Galicians, Andalusians, Catalans e.t.c speak very different languages/dialects and have different cultures, dressing and food from Spanish (Castillian)...
However, all these group of people remain under one Spanish nationality and identity except the Catalans who are very desperate to break out.

The Italians you are calling as one identity... Do you know the strong factions, divisions and bitterness that exists within them? Infact, not until 100-200 years ago, There was no lingua franca (official dialect) in Italy... Every region of Italy spoke an entirely different language, practice different traditions, values, food, farming e.t.c. Some don't even see eye to eye ... Till now the divisions are still strong, but it has reduced unlike before.


2) Who told you that all the Igbo/Yoruba subgroups only speak different languages but have the same culture? The cultures are related, but they are not the same!

Do you think all Igbo/Yoruba subgroups have the same societal values, deities, dressing, food, masquerades, society cults, festivals e.t.c? If this is what you think, then you are very very wrong.

Just like someone told you above, before colonialism, the identity of Igbo & Yoruba only applied to a small fraction of what is today known as Igbo/Yoruba.
The British were the ones who classified all similar peoples under the Igbo/ Yoruba tag. 150 years ago, Ijebu, Awori, Egba, Ekiti, Okun people never addressed or saw themselves as Yoruba people.... The Yoruba identity was meant for Oyo people alone... Same with the Igbos.

The Hausas through Danfodio's fulani conquest were the only ones who were already united before the British came.

Blackking98:
Everything you wrote here is true, except for the fact you said "nothern and central Cross river are in the majority". That is where is a lie. If they were a majority why did they clamour for state creation when they have the numbers to dominate? It doesn't add up. Akwa Ibom alone has more population than cross river(efiks included) , check census or election results as far back as abiolas election to confirm, Akwa Ibom always gives atleast double of what Cross river gives, now by the time you add the efiks and recently akampa (the two lawmakers from there voted in favour of the woman and ibibio is the most spoken language there outside their native language) to their brothers in Akwa Ibom, the central and nothern cross riverians stood no chance and still stand no chance against us, hence they clamour for state separation, my own is unless power doesn't come back to southern Cross river which Akwa ibomites have domineering presence there, the atam people will have to thread with caution. Finally we call you guys atam because the atam people were the first central and nothern Cross riverians our fathers came in contact with, so I guess they assumed everybody from biase up is atam not knowing there were so many ethnicities there, it's nothing derogatory, it doesn't have meaning in our language.

Pls I have a question for you and Ibibiogrl.

Are Ejagham people also considered as Atam too? Considering the fact that also have a large population in Cross River south?

Is it also true that Ejagham has the largest population in Cross River State?

Is it also true that Ejagham is related to Efik/Ibibio in language and culture?

joecrack:
The events that played out between yesterday and today is indeed a shame and one which sadly I dare say I am disappointed that my state, known for it's peaceful and loving people have decided to toe the path of crass nepotism in blocking a woman who although is not a Crossiverien by birth, happens to be married to a Crossiverien, ironically her mother is a Crossiverien and she was born and had lived all her life in Cross River which typically would mean she's "a daughter of the soil".

But people who are not Crossiveriens will be shocked that this rivalry will get to this level seeing Cross River and Akwa Ibom use to be one State. As a Crossiverien who was not born nor grew up home, this surprise struck me when I went to school in Calabar during my University days, I was shocked at the staunch hatred between indigenes of both States and for the purpose of clarity I must confess that this enmity is in two folds; hatred by the Efiks in Cross River towards their supposed brothers from the Ibibio and Anang stock in Akwa Ibom, this of course is vice versa and also a strong disdain from Northern and Central Crossiveriens towards Akwaibomites and for the purpose of record is also a mutual feeling.

The Efiks are largely easy going folks some may say docile but one thing is sure, they take life very easy and tend towards enjoying themselves and being jolly, in contrast, a typical man from Akwa Ibom is a hustler, very indoustrous, boisterous and domineering. Their adventurous nature has seen them become popular in places like Calabar South LGA, in fact folks from Akwa Ibom make up 60% of population in Calabar South. There is this joke in Calabar that during the days of Donald Duke, he went to visit a village in the Akpabuyo LGA, he asked for the Chief of the community and surprisingly he was told that the Chief went to his Village in Akwa Ibom, how ironic that an "outsider" is royalty in another man's village. These adventurous attitude and of course coupled with land grabbing expeditions by folks from Akwa Ibom brewed wrangling between the Efiks and their brothers from Akwa Ibom. Asides this, because of the the language similarities, most people from Akwa Ibom became mischievous and used that to their advantage by forging local government origins so as to get employment, admission and other gratifications from Cross River, deep down in them, they claim allegiance to Akwa Ibom but will also claim one village in either Calabar South, Odukpani or Akpabuyo when looking for perks.

On the one hand you have Central and Northern Cross River, these are ethnicities which are quite different in languages and culture from the Efiks and Akwaibomites, they had been tagged derogatory name as the Atams (whatever that means) by the Efiks and their brothers from Akwa Ibom, they, though being in majority had suffered marginalisation from time immemorial when the both States were one. These people also have a disdain towards Akwaibomites basically as a fight back towards undue entitlement mentality from Akwaibomites of either jobs, admission and benefits that comes with government. Typically, the Atam man hates the Akwa Ibom man just as in the same vain the Akwa Ibom man hates the Atam man. The Atam man which also sees himself as also boisterous and even adventurous in equal measure feels they must do everything it takes to push the Akwa Ibom man out because left to the Efiks, Akwaibomites will overun the whole Calabar and that’s why unfortunately the biggest losers in all of these are the Efiks, because due to the control of political office by folks from the Central and Northern Cross River for over 12 years now, concentration of government perks either by appointment, infrastructure, jobs, admission etc is given to people more from Northern and Central Cross River because the notion is that, that Efik man you want to give an opportunity, how sure are you he’s not from Akwa Ibom? This disdain is further fuelled by the fact that Crossiveriens are hardly given opportunities in Akwa Ibom. In the civil service, admission, contracts even at the level of academics, our children can’t even contest for Class Rep positions not to talk of the SUG, in fact there was an incident of one Prof. Unoh who wanted to be VC of University of Uyo, he was threatened till he was even shot at, sadly his driver died just because his colleagues from Akwa Ibom did not want him to emerge.
A twist to this bickering is the lost of oil wells belonging to Cross River by a “smart” Godswill Akpabuyo, right under the nose of Crossiveriens, Godswill in a typical sense man style used the National Boundary Commission to cart away oil wells belonging to Cross River while the then Governor of Cross River State was monkeying away. This singular act further heitened the tension between the two states because Crossiveriens saw it as an act of wickedness from her sister state and supposed child to want to steal her birthright and plunging her into poverty more so when Akwa Ibom has hundreds of oil wells.
Today in terms of oil allocation, Akwa Ibom gets the largest in the Country, Cross River is left with none, buy yet you have thousands of Akwaibomites living in Cross River, these people have to also share infrastructure provided by the Cross River State government yet, she was robbed of her wealth by Akwa Ibom.

So, these frictions have been going on and the event of the Chief Judge has further highlighted the rivalry between these States, but this is not to say there is no love, I will only say it’s a love-hate relationship because we are stucked with ourselves, there is intermarriage going on amongst us everyday, we interact at level of school and all that but the relationship has reached one where one looks at the other with suspicious eyes.
There are those who also believe that the decision not to allow Justice Ikpeme be the substantive Chief Judge is Political. Local Government Elections are just behind the corner, perhaps Gov Ayade does not want to take any chance and feels Ikpeme won’t play ball with him so he decided to push her away to give way for the next most senior Judge who happens to be from his senatorial district.
It should be worthy to note that the Speaker of the CRS House of Assembly (who gave a veto vote because voting proceedings to confirm Justice Ikpeme saw the election into a tie because 8 legislators were on the fence, 8 voted YES while another 8 voted NO, the Speaker’s vote voided the application) wife is from Akwa Ibom, infact about 4 members in the House Spouces are from Akwa Ibom.
In all, let love always lead and let us have the ability to tolerate ourselves. I’m this regard I doff my hat for the South West, they lead when it comes to tolerance, we all should learn from them.

Thank you for this great piece of explanation. ...

It's so unfortunate that you people are very disunited as a people, otherwise you guys would have been the most powerful and influential ethnic group in the South-South (and not Ijaws).

Besides, why did Efiks not join Akwa Ibom state?

Dupamecano:
Yes, partner with him, give us a good reason to legitimately "reassess" your population. Of all the people you should partner with you choose that scoundrel? lmao. Easy dub for the north yet again

Do you think Nigeria can withstand a coalition of all Northern christians, Igbos & Niger deltans? That's already half of the country.

Can a country survive half of it's population demanding seccession?

Dupamecano:
Lol, But according to the cia factbook your "intelligent" mate "myobjective" was talking about, hausas and fulanis have 36% of nigerias population. The fact that you are pegging our population at 30% shows how confused and deluded you are,. The funny thing is even as 120 m thats higher than any credible estimate for swahili speakers. Its hard to argue with someone living in fantasy world.

Out of the so called 19 northern states. Hausa fulanis dominate only 6 (Katsina, Kano, Jigawa, Zamfara, Sokoto & Kebbi).
Kaduna, Gombe & Bauchi are like a 50/50 between Hausa fulanis and minority tribes. That leaves 10 dominated by minorities... How then can you people have more than 30% of Nigeria? If the South + Kwara are 50% of Nigeria?

Do the mathematics. Swahili is spoken by almost everybody in Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda & Burundi and these countries combined are 120 million people!
Half (Northern) Uganda & The Eastern ¼ of Congo speaks Swahili and that is about 35 million people....
We are not even counting Comoros and the minority Swahili speakers in Malawi, Zambia and even Oman.

Swahili and Hausa have no business of comparison.... Swahili has been a trade language for hundreds of years along coastal East Africa where it evolved and spread into the hinterlands.
Hausa on the other hand has about half of it's speakers as native speakers.

Mymynd4u:
.. Just in time when I was planning to cut away my beards..
YOU no say we Igbo women, beards is our pride


Imagine if CORONAVIRUS enter Nigeria, na northern man and Igbo women d tin go first affect coz of their bear bear


Na to isolate hausa men with Igbo women for one place


Hausa men with big poron
Igbo women with the high libido

Loool... You really cracked me up. You are to be awarded the TROLL OF THE YEAR award.