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OkCornel:
In the dry season... Yes

It doesn't even need to be in dry season. I am generous enough to let them try it in a rainy season. Provided they can limit the rain to a particular areas of my choosing. And make it rain 5 times out of 6. I have rainmakers in my extended family. They are lying frauds.

We have already trashed the rain-making nonsense in the thread the OP got this story from. And confined it to the dustbin that it belongs.

The story was created by BBC Pidgin. Meaning that crooked or superstitious Nigerians made the story. And it was not any test nor does it prove anything conclusively

OgboAto:
Albert Pike & Manly P Hall were not scientists. They were craftmen who wrote history/contributions of the study of esoteric knowledge to the emergence of Scientific revolution, Industrial revolution and every other revolution from the Middle Ages that set the stage modern age starting from post war years. People who led the sciences, from Gallileo to Newton were taught the art of esotericism which led to their 'discoveries', thinkers of the Renaissance to the enlightenment giants were into esotericism and that had effects on what they contributed to mankind. Mention any achiever past and present, investigate their background, they were/are esoteric men.



This is a dumb statement from a man who presents himself as someone in the know. How could Nollywood images be a yardstick for your judgement? How many Babalawo do you know? 'Poverty-Stricken bastards', I hope some Awo won't see/hear you say it and make it the lot of you and your generations to come. There are Babalawo who are wealthy, not having the interest to flaunt is not the same as being poverty-stricken. It is like saying the non-affluent presentations of professors means they are poverty-stricken bastards, igorant much? There are several well to do Babalawo, science rests on investigation, being that you believe in science then you should take it upon yourself to conduct a study rather than rely on your TV screen.



Wole Soyinka is an Ogun adherent, a devotee whose life is directed by Ogun, he won a Nobel Prize. Is that good enough? You are just an angry person with so much outbursts. If you had taken your time to investigate, as science requires, you would have known there were several esoteric people who are renonwed in their various fields. There's a lawyer of Igbo origin who has a somewhat unblemished record in election litigation, guess what, he's a Mason. Those who led every facet of the newly independent Nigeria were esoteric men - Sir Adeyemo Alakija, Sir Adetokunbo Ademola, Chief Oladeinde Lawson, Nnamdi Azikiwe, the Sardauna, Ahmadu Bello, Ladoke Akintola, Obafemi Awolowo, Chief Fernandez - to mention a few.



Dude, you do not know me. You need to relax. The core of atheism is investigation/proof; you seem to lack the ettiquete for both. You are one boisetrous person full of tantrums. You need to relax, read and process before you 'speak'.

I repeat again. Most Awo are poverty-stricken bastards. U can take that to the bank. What Bollywood images are u ranting about. I am telling u what I know u are talking nonsense about movies.

So Wole Soyinka won a Nobel prize with the power of Ogun right? Where do u morons crawl out from?

Use ur own Awo to win a Nobel prize. And stop spamming this thread. Use it to win one of the millennium prizes in mathematics. Or use it to crack hard cryptographic problems and earn money.
Or u can even use it to predict the NYSE market and become a billionaire. Stop spouting silly nonsense here. U are just another clown in a long line of clowns we have seen here.

By the way, I am not an atheist. If u weren't able to know that with your esoteric knowledge and mysticism then you are useless and not worth arguing with. Lol

LordReed:
I wonder how many of them genuflect before their electrical outlets or offer sacrifices to it before they plug in their devices. The dolts are even using modern scientifically and technologically procured devices to post their rubbish without thinking of when next they will chant an incantation for the device to work properly and without interruption.

Arrant Nonsense.

Lol. The morons will come and tell you that incantations were already made by the people who invented power generation that's why it is working.
The same way they will argue that bridges are only built after sacrificing to Yemoja.

Backwards monkeys.

Anybody using Masons as an argument is an ignorant clown that hardly knows what Masonry is about and what its origins and practices are. Masonry argument is nothing but another appeal to conspiracy theory.

OgboAto:
Folykaze

Baba, you get time. An oldee Awo once told me that everyone can not be 'awake', if that happens, there will be problems. So it is best to let some sheeple remain just that, sheeple.

I have followedthe thread & you have actually tried. In the end to me, these 'ignant' folks have just had you going in a cycle or say, have you on repeat. You may just want to leave them alone, you are not on their plane & you may just want to keep them where they are, below you. Just my suggestion.

What I know is, most of this pseudo-educated people have NEVER in their lives carried out a scientific experiment or observation to prove anything. They just sit on their butt cheeks, scurry the internet to see if the white man has said something then pick it & run with it. They are not independent thinkers. They won't take up your challenge to go out there to observe/test & neither do they have the senses or resources to carry out a test of the scientific nonsense they say. They are just couch potatoes waiting to be fed by the West & think they look 'smart' or 'modern' when they talk. For instance, see one talking about charged cloud like s/he conducted some type of research & came to that conclusion to gleefully regurgutated what the white master said.

In the end, most if not all of them have patronized a magico-spiritual service provider be it an Awo, Pastor or Alfa at one point in life and some still do. So they know what you speak of, they just like to deny like most hypocritical Nigerians.

Awo, what these people do not understand is that, the finest minds who led scientific revolution [and all other endeavours we enjoy today]that set the stage for today's scientific advancements were initiates of esoteric rights. Their achievements in sciences with which they are known today were derived from esotericism. If you can, read Albert Pike & Manly P Halls's works to see renowned scientists [and thinkers] who were Masons & other rights and how their 'crafts' contributed to the knowledges they gave to the public.

Ogbo Ato, Awo.

Ekaaro.

Foolish ignorant nonsense.
So because u know 2 guys who were Masons and scientists then it means scientists need esoteric nonsense to achieve results? It's like saying because I know 2 guys who where Rastafarians then Rastafarianism is needed for scientific achievements. Where do u guys get Ur foolish arguments from?

If it is so, why aren't Ur babalawos achievers? Why are they usually poverty-stricken bastards that work from one bush and hype up their achievements. I am sure Einstein would have been a Mason too according to u. Even atheist scientists have pastronised a spiritualist before. Foolish dumb arguments.

Why don't u use the esoteric knowledge u have and win a Nobel prize? Is it only shouting "Ogbo ato" u know how to do? U think it is by ascribing powers to urself online that we make us take u seriously? Bring proof.

It takes exceptional impotence and low self-esteem to come online and be ascribing great works of other people to a belief u share while u urself are just a husk of a man with no footprint. It is intellectual parasitism.

Amoto94:
Let me agree with you that I exaggerated a bit with my previous post on this thread, but on the other hand science can't explain everything and science will never explain everything. Some from the scientific community want to make us believe that science is the absolute truth which isn't true and when they failed to establish a proof for something using empirical evidences they use convoluted languages to obscure the truth.
For more on visit this http://www.aboutatheism.net/index.cfm and read some of the articles

I agree with u that there are probably some overzealous people that want to make science the absolute truth but then we can argue that those people do not understand science.
Science is about the continual seeking of knowledge and building knowledge upon knowledge. First we knew about atoms then later we built on that and discovered protons and neutrons and later bosons and fermions. This is incremental knowledge. When science has a better explanation, it jettisons the old explanations. Science isn't religion that assumes absolutism.

Science may have its flaws currently. But it is the best option for enquiry and explanation that we have. Far far better than religious nonsense.

Amoto94:
The thing is science can't explain everything and scientists themselves know this, when certain things cannot be explained by science due to limitations beyond their comprehension they tend to use carefully worded statements to attribute it to dark matter and energy.

One thing is very clear from your statement. You don't know what dark matter or dark energy is supposed to be. What your post is implying is that everything scientists are ignorant of are just chalked up to dark matter and dark energy. And u are wrong. Very wrong. Very very wrong.
Please read up on the dark matter and dark energy postulates. Dark matter and dark energy is hypothetical for now.

When scientists don't understand something, they clearly state that they don't. And they leave other scientists to find answers to them. That is the whole point of scientific enquiry and research. They don't go about claiming a spirit or God did it. And they certainly do not attribute it to dark matter and energy as u are trying to falsely claim here.

FOLYKAZE:
Oga shut up. You were jumping over yourself when a dolt claimed the BBC interview with the dibia is false.

However, the story as narrated by the interviewer shows rain actually dropped (very minimal) as promised. And when they were about to leave, the dibia told them it would rain heavy and it happened. You are simply clinging on Weather Report Program and dismissing the facts that dibia could control weather with spiritual arts.

This guy is empty-headed.
So u believe a report that the dibia created rain without any proof of it because the interviewer who is also a Nigerian said so. Not like they actually put the dibia a series of tests or anything. Just one video that has been edited and u are happy.
Yet u want us to take u seriously. There is no hope for u bro. If at this age u are so gullible and steeped in foolishness we can only pray u didn't pass those foolishness down to your own kids.

LordReed:
And you are even more pathetic. Employing all manner of sophistry to sidestep the issues on ground. You barely even understand the things you talk about so its not a wonder you mangle everything into a mish mash of nonsense.

If there is any slave here it is you, a slave to nonsense.

Hahahaha. Good answer.
The guy doesn't even have a firm grasp on the things he is talking about so he is just dancing around confused. First he started with Osanyin then when we busted the foolishness he went on to rain-making. When he saw that the video evidence he gave wasn't really an evidence he started contradicting himself and saying there is a scientific explanation. Now he has moved on to Sango being energy and is now trying to appeal to our tribal nature to accept his ridiculous beliefs because they are our cultural beliefs. Lol.

What a confused mess.

adegeye38:
u saw my previous quote of my testimonies and evidences of my life since i became born again, u too can enjoy the same too, if u give ur life to Christ

U mean quotes from morons and testimonies by faceless people and evidences from Ur life that no one knows about except u abi? Lol
Keep fooling urself. When u wake up u will enjoy sense.

OLAADEGBU:
Does it make 'atheist sense' to have a counterfeit if there is no genuine to start with?

Christians and silly arguments. It seems u guys now rely on faith so much that u no longer pause to think before typing. Lol

So if someone releases a video of a flying pig now and atheists and sceptics like myself call it fake, then according to Ur own Christian sense, it means a real flying pig must exist because that one was fake abi? Lol.

There are no smart Christians on nairaland anymore.

Nobody is reading Ur shitty blog. If u can't post it here forget it. The post will be filled with illogical nonsense anyway.

Watch how people whose pastors have been molesting them financially in all manner and raping them of their tithes and offerings come here and complain about this pastor. They will insult the lady and the church members and call them fools for doing what the pastor says.
But they don't know they are not any different from this woman and her fellow church members. These morons are being held by the balls by their pastors the same way Obinim is holding his congregation captive. That's why when u criticize their pastor and their tactics, they will attack u with the ferociousness of a rabid dog.

Just wait and watch some Christian fools calling other Christian fools fools.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=674022876305353&id=285361880228

That's a link the to BBC video. The video was created by BBC Pidgin. Meaning it was created by a group of Nigerians probably desperate for content and using any ridiculous tactic to generate content and meet their monthly targets. Lol

LordReed:
The potency of herbs is way different from claiming spirits exist.

BTW give link to this BBC article where a man is said to stop rain with herbs.

Don't mind the guy. He is being intellectually dishonest. Now he is equating botany to voodoo. Lol. The BBC stuff he is talking about is a short video made by a Nigerian interviewing a dibia in his village in the east. It is probably something from an episode of a culture segment of BBC programming.
The video didn't prove beyond reasonable doubt that the man could make it rain. It wasn't even an investigative video. And nobody actually thinks the man can make it rain on BBC. These are cultural episodes that highlights beliefs in different parts of the world. It has nothing to do with proof.
Because something is shown on BBC doesn't mean it is true. It seems Folykaze doesn't understand this fundamental concept about logic and proofs.
In the end he still agrees there some sort of scientific explanation for rain-making. Everything has an explanation. Nothing physical seen is spiritual.

I will post a link to the video if I can find it. U will even scoff at the foolishness of it.

adegeye38:
Until Jesus Comes there will be pains ,trials and tribulations, as long as the devil is still at large.

But those who do know their God shall be strong and do exploits

Keep writing nonsense.

adegeye38:
Am a living testimony, of the power of Christianity, i have seen God, and seen diverse signs and wonders

Like I said: lunatic.

U have seen diverse signs and wonders and u have no proof of it. Just random useless rants. Yet all the mad people in psychiatric wards are still made. All the blind people are still blind. And all the cripples are still cripples.

Nonsense.

LordReed:
Talking Osanyin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIPimX-ZiCY

LoL, reminds me of those children toys with a kind of whistle that sounds out when you squeeze the toy. LMFAO!

This is why I don't have any single respect for those mutherfuckers. It is childish stupid nonsense and it takes an exceptionally low IQ to believe in such nonsense and be upholding it as a sign of the spiritual.
Even watching the video is annoying me and someone on this thread is trying to argue nonsense with me claiming he has seen things that can't be explained. Lol. It will have been so funny if it wasn't so sad.

Foolish fuckery.

adegeye38:
millions of people paying tithes and offerings all over the world are mad??, God that commanded it is mad also, Jesus that affirmed it is also mad, you are the only 1 that is sane?? Alright no problem, carry on.

See Christianity is not a religion it is an experience, except u are truely born again and have the holy spirit, spiritual thingd will continue to look foolish to u.

How can u explain, divine healing, virgin birth, dead being raised to life, people with no womb having babies, supernatural supply

Engaging the anointing oil, mantle, holy communion to wrought signs and wonders

Ofcourse it Will sound insane to you, infact it is not meant to sound sane to you before, that is why the bible called them mysteries.

Christianity is a strictly spiritual experience, and if you are not in d fold u won't understand.

Spiritual things are Logic defying, the Logic you are using to debunk spiritual things who gave them to you God.

Now u see your worthlessness and uselessness as an human being?

Bible says let him who thinks is wise become a fool, so that through is foolishness he can become wise.

The day u bring proof of any of the nonsense u wrote above the day I begin to take u seriously.
Until then your rants are nothing but just the twisted delusions of a lunatic.

Get an amputee and grow back his limbs. Get Cobham's Asuquo and make him see again. Get something that have proof and not the stupid stories your pastor told u.

HenryDion:
I was about to say this. He should visit YouTube and see two dolls talking, but it is the ventriloquist talking without even moving his or her mouth. It is an exceptional skill.

When the knowledge of a thing is unknown, primitive minds are ready to ascribe it to the supernatural. Pathetic!

Are u saying Folykaze is a primitive mind? lol. The guy is lying and telling us all sorts of bullshit and hoping we take his word for it. Lying Osanyin.

FOLYKAZE:
Have you seen why I called you all Noise?

Osanyin can talk on it own without the priest presence. I lived with Awo and move around with them for years. You can have a chat with Osanyin....in as much you understand it words (spoken in Yoruba) without the aid of it priest. Just ask him to invoke it and do the talking. That is all.


You dont sit down in your room and expect things to work as you assumed. You have to go out and make it work.

Fake nonsense.

FOLYKAZE:
I came to know of Osanyin when I was a teenager. Our Tenant then is an Osanyin priest and he keeps it in his room. Been a friend to his so who was my age mate, I have access to his room and small corner where he keeps the idol. Out of curiosity, I was ablw to dismantled the idol. It is simple log of wood in human shape. The idol then was calles Bàbà Kékeré.

Lol. See how this guy dey reason.

So when u were an impressionable teenager, a ventriloquist performed his tricks in front of u and u were mesmerized. Then later after he left, u and ur friend went to grab some of his toys and props and tried to open them to see where the sound was coming from.

And u were sounding as if u did an actual scientific investigation of the matter and the baba was in ur front while u were hearing the sound coming from the Osanyin but couldn't make out where it was coming from.
Hahahaha. U self u be Osanyin. Lol

adegeye38:
The bible says, "spiritual things are foolishness to a carnal

And the doctor said mad people actually think they are sane. You are loco bro.

FOLYKAZE:
You are the one making bullshiiit up. I didnt mention where the Baba is located on this thread. The challenge has been up for years. I only added that of Eletu which is recent. I live in Ore, Ondo state. I have met a lot of nairalanders who seek spiritual help and taken them to some Awo. There is no report that I did any harm to them. Your job is to disprove my claim by locating what device speaks i the Osanyin.

I know what ventriloquism and have seen the art before. The artists behind ventriloquism didn't claim any supernatural attributes in their artwork. There case is different from Osayin priest. Just come outof your hole. This is Osayin and Eletu. Come out and disprove it.

Fake nonsense.

FOLYKAZE:
What makes it fake? Have you seen or handled one before? Did you find the device that talk inside?

Why can't you just come out and shame all Osanyin priest worldwide?

Stop your baseless tantrum, come out of your hole. It won't harm you.

It is very obvious u don't know what ventriloquism means.

If we ask u to prove the fake nonsense now u will start telling us the baba is in one bush and start some long stories to waste my time. I don't have time for fake nonsense.

FOLYKAZE:
Come out and disprove it Oga.

Fake nonsense.

The question itself is wrong. It implies that there is an excluded middle ergo a woman cannot be both a good mother and a prostitute. But a woman can be both.

Motherhood is the ability to provide care for your children. And that she has demonstrated. Prostitution is the act of gifting sexual favours in exchange for pecuniary benefits. She has done that too.

An argument can be made that she isn't a prostitute though. To call her a prostitute will be to assume that that is her profession and not a one-off thing that only happened out of desperation. As it is we probably do not have enough information from the question to call her a prostitute.

Osanyin is the fakest nonsense in the history of fake nonsenses. Anybody using Osanyin as an example should not be taken seriously. That is ventriloquism at its best.
A pastor in a church I once attended used to be a juju man himself and he demonstrated the Osanyin in church one day. That's when I knew that ventriloquism requires exceptional talent.
Fake nonsense.

LordReed:
I schooled in a northern secondary school too, all we ever heard were stories, nobody saw anything supernatural except of course all the foolishness we indulged in calling it "spiritual".

There was even a purported former burial ground at the back of our school but nobody ever saw jackshit.

No mind the guy. My JSS1 to JSS3 was in the north. In boarding school. Everyday we kept hearing about the mythical Bush Baby that carried lamps and mats around in the night. Didn't see one till I left the north. None of my friends did.

I am sure the OP hasn't seen any either. He is just overstating the frequency of the "supernatural" event.

The unfortunate thing about people like the OP is that they believe sceptics have never traveled out of Lagos before so they can spin any ludicrous story to convince us. The problem is that most times we are more learned and traveled than they are and that's actually the anchor of our scepticism.

adegeye38:
Spiritual things are foolishness to a carnal man, for they are spiritually discerned.

Tithe and offerings work for me 100% nd it is commanded in the Bible for d advancement of God's Kingdom.

Most genuine pastors don't spend church money, some might place themselves on salary, while some might not, most of the tithe and offering goes to running the church, infrastructure, salary and allowances of workers and pastors, welfare, envagelism, outreaches and so on

Their wealth comes from divine blessings, through supernatural supply and God given prosperity.

Bishop Oyedepo for example, one of the riches pastors in the world, does not spend church money and he is not even on salary, the books he writes, thay have millions of copy in print he doesn't make money from dem, d money goes to d church.

Yet he is very wealthy, you cant understand, when u are a Born again u will understand, accept Christ as ur lord and saviour and come a nd enjou d wonders of KINGDOM PROSPERITY

Story story. U are in charge of Oyedepo's account right? That's how u know he doesn't spend church money abi? Foolish talk. Tithes work for u 100%. Keep lying to yourself. You are only fooling ur fellow nitwits.

Firgemachar:
A sensible sentence is better than a long daft rant typical of a hell-bound loooonatic...

Says the buffoon

Firgemachar:
Oro hurun hurun

Arrant nonsense!

The buffoon managed to type a sentence. Lol