₦airaland Forum

tiwiex:
I thought the 13% derivation was to compensate the oil producing states. The goose that lays the golden egg. I see no justification in giving part of it to the mining states unless it can be proven they contribute significantly to the purse. I also foresee another problem. Many states have solid minerals even in the north. This seems like a strategy to share 13% derivatives to states that were not even part of the idea. When solid minerals start generating revenue, they can take 13% of that. I thought Fayemi's job was to bring in FDI to make that sector viable?

U guys are daft.
U didn't read where it said active mining right? The 13% is on d amount of mining done.

blueto:
do you even know what abated means?? in that context, abated was used as lessened. it is a polysemous words. abated was not used as eradicated there. Now tell me who is dull?

Ur lack of smarts is still seeping through the cracks here. How do u measure when a recession is lessened within 3 weeks? Are u high? U are still repeating the nonsense. How does one measure how diminished or aggravated an economic recession has become in the short space of 3 weeks?
U didn't even know u were in a recession until u were told by experts. So how would u know if the recession has gotten better or worse and in a short time of 3 weeks for that matter? Think before u talk. I am not one of those daft people on nairaland u usually find urself engaged with. I will point out the faults in all ur assertions. So think carefully before replying.

blueto:
Very Silly. The oil output increases since last 3 weeks according to Kachikwu, so why hasn't recession being abated? Oil price has increased, output increase, total revenue from other sources has increase, and yet this govt keeps sinking Nigeria in Dept and Recession.

U dull o. Economic recession should be abated in 3 weeks? Some of u don't think before u talk.

iflywithbuhari:
E-Diot, how many attacks have occured since your last count. Have you forgotten that Niger Delta Avengers have decided to give you some reprieve. If they resume their activities, you will be lucky to produce 900,000BPD.

Did u even read what u posted before writing this drivel?

Emycord:
As what first class citizen or what this guy should even pay higher na ur ancestors get africa abi? You thinks its nigera where you have monopoly

A good sign of intelligence is ability to know when to shut up. U clearly lack that ability.

analice107:
I thought you'd say something reasonable. You'll go to hell for nothing. How many of the people or groups you mentioned up there wrote the Bible?

How did you come by the idea of paradise or hellfire in the first place.

Guy, no wahala, get to heaven before Jesus Christ sef, e no matter.

First u can easily tell I don't believe in hell from that post. Secondly, my belief in paradise doesn't necessarily validate urs. Mine own kind of paradise is wherever I get to mock the futility of all the spiritual exclusivities that u have held on to in this life. We will all get there someday. I sincerely hope for it. I pray the afterlife is not just a state of emptiness, nothingness and oblivion. It will be sad if after mocking u guys in this life, I don't get another chance to make fun of u again

Ranchhoddas:
Only one has to be right.

I noticed u like arguing for argument's sake. The premise is based on the fact that they are all wrong. Even topic was written by an atheist who obviously believes every one of those theistic doctrine is wrong. My own post was just to add that line of thinking and extending it to why I will like to believe in the afterlife. It has to be fun and give meaning or sort of answers to this life.
If u believe only one has to be right out of the many then the probability of that one being right is even very slim. I believe that all belief systems will lead to the afterlife and God who created variety couldn't possibly be asking for only one way to enter into the hereafter

Ranchhoddas:
You are assuming they are wrong. What if they are right?

They can't all be right, can they?

This is why I don't believe all those stories about married women in some cultures dying spiritually after extra-marital affairs. Na lie. Any man who believes such things is an idiot. The woman in this story is urhobo and their culture believe in such nonsense too. Now d woman no die after d kpanshing

Not an atheist though. I believe in the afterlife too. Not for the usual selfish reasons of paradise and all. But another selfish reason entirely: schadenfreude.
I will like to see the looks on the faces of all those theists who believe their way is the only way to the afterlife once they get there and it turns out they were wrong all along. Those that defended their lying pastors; those who gave all their wealth out to pastors and find out they have been sold a dummy. Those that told us we will go to hell only to find out we are probably more qualified for paradise than they are. And the looks on the faces of the pastors themselves. Mormons, Catholics, Protestants, Atheists, everyone all looking at one another and realising the futility of life on earth. We will probably get to kick a few religious leaders' asses too for setting us on a senseless path.
It will be celestial gold to me. Far better than an eternal life of singing halleluyah

shachris02:
trust me, atheists are the slowest people I've ever met. they are just walking books. no common sense.

You are actually seem like the slower one here. Atheists don't believe in mediums. How can u be asking them to prove how what they don't believe in works? I am more of what u would call a deist. But even I believe mediums are fakes. They use different tricks of the trade. Same with mentalists. And they have been debunked by sound scientific minds many times over. Because u believe in something doesn't make it true. And the burden of proof is on u the believer not the sceptics.

Most people know the bible isn't infallible. Considering it is replete with contradiction and historical inaccuracies. And that's to be expected from a compendium arranged by Bronze Age goat-herders who weren't counting on a more informed demographic reading their works.
Even those that like to believe it's infallible usually do so out of fear that fallibility impugns their faith. They will shout to high heavens about the inerrancy of the Bible but they are guilty of cherrypicking parts of the book they are only convenient with.
Take the issue of women's role in churches for instance, the bible makes it very clear what women should do in church: shut the hell up and listen. Be quite the silent minion. But our modern Christians will not obey that one. U see pastors' wives running the show.
Take the old testament law of tithing and planting two different kind of seeds on the same land as another example. Modern Christians will hold on to tithing but quickly reject the notion of not planting different seeds on ur farmland due to smarter agricultural practices we now have today.
The truth is that Nigerian Christians are clowns. Just clowns. Nothing else.

loswhite:
H we are all well aware of the risk so I don't understand ppls concern. The truth is we voluntarily take the risk if it closes no problem after all we are well aware.

Sadly not many people are aware. You are because u are informed. And I am sure u won't put ur life savings into this. But there are people who will. People who will be convinced by the rave and put an increasingly higher stake into it. People you helped convince.
Some people are going to be the ultimate victim of this. And u will probably benefit from their victimisation. Fact. For me, this is unconscionable

flexydote:
That is why phone numbers are displayed for you to call before you make any payment.

This is the problem. Every potential victim of a scam always think they are smarter than the last guy that got scammed.

The victim does all the hard work, you just help him along. Feed the pieces to the victim. The victim takes them because he’s smarter and you're dumber. Place the victim in an environment he can control. The bigger the environment, the easier to control. Toss the dog a bone. Find his weakness. Give him just a little of what he thinks he wants. Distract the victim by getting him consumed with his own consumption.
The bigger and older the trick, the easier it is to pull. He thinks it can’t be that old or big for so many people to have fallen for it. Eventually, when the conman is questioned or challenged, it means the victim’s investment, and thus his intelligence is questioned. No one can accept that. Even to themselves. The victim will eventually hang himself. You just help him along.

Qmerit:
Shut that thing you call mouth pls at once.
You are already bringing politics into it, did you read where I mentioned parties or opposition? So it was was revoked cause dokpesi is in the opposition in Bauchi state.. always crying foul...

U are obviously dumber than a bread knife. If u can't read the political motivation behind the move and u accept a blanket statement like "the overriding public interest" without demanding the meaning then this conversation is beyond ur ken. Scurry back into ur hole

Qmerit:
Bauchi govt ve it's reasons, afterall when it gave him the right to operate you were not told and let no one talk rubbish here.

It's now obvious that u guys have completely lost ur minds. U don't even know how to make rational decisions anymore. So we shouldn't question when a government shuts down a TV station that leans towards the opposition right? U guys are pathetic excuses for citizens

felixomor:
Stop lying.
U dont av any.
U tried cooking something, but did it excessively. Period.
Truth Hurts!

U aren't very bright, are u? I gave u an example to point to u the problem with anecdotal evidence and u are latching on to it as if ur life depends on it. Laughable. Anybody can come here and claim anything. Conmen will also claim they can double ur money by sitting on it. But that don't make it so.We need evidence here. Real evidence not "I know someone" explanation. That was the point of that post u are holding on to like u just discovered gold. If u arent smart enough to realise that then why am I even talking with u?
By the way which truth is hurting u? The truth that ur friend was really kidnapped though u are yet to give us any evidence for the spiritual aspect of it other than the fact that u believe it is so? Chai. Guy, go to bed. U obviously aren't capable of complex thought. This is my last reply to u.

felixomor:
Ur first line is a lie. We all know.
Please whats the name of the baby u claim to know that was born with a quran?
U clearly dont know when to draw a line between sarcasm and real life.
And thats a big problem.
Am telling u the story of somebody personal, and u r telling me "holes" in story.
Then u r quoting a story we all read on nairaland and other news fora and saying that u know the person.
How more sarcastic can it get?

See the problem? U don't believe my own anecdotal evidence but u want us to believe urs. One that u admit didn't actually happen to u but to someone else. A story probably embellished by the parties involved. Guy go to bed. Every reason for doubting my story impugns ur own story too. Bring proof here. Not hearsays.

felixomor:
Admit ur problem and work on urself. Spare me the sarcasm.
I dont have to see everything before i believe just like the way we believe atoms and molecules exist without having seen them in video.
I know somebody personally who was diabolically kidnapped in a commercial bus for rituals.
He was declared missing for days even to the police until he was miraculously rescued along with some others.
Then one idiot from some where will come and tell me to show him video evidence.
Its point bank stupid when listening to such.

Go work on ur issues.

I also know a baby that was given birth to clutching a Quran. Another was holding Islamic prayer beads.
I am sure if I tell u about this story u will doubt it if u arent a devout Muslim. So u see the problem with anecdotal evidence? U can claim people have been kidnapped for rituals and all but that doesn't mean any voodoo happened. There are many ways to kidnap people. And because there are people who believe in rituals and kidnap people for that purpose doesn't mean rituals work!!!! Get it? Most are just following laid down rules passed down to them by their ancestors and they afraid that flouting those rules will be inimical to them. So they just keep doing the same ineffectual nonsense from generation to generation
If u take a neutral thinking person whose mind hasn't been raped by irrational nonsense to that ur kidnapped friend, I can assure u that he will notice a lot of holes in the story ur friend gave and give a better explanation for what happened. U are just unable to see it because u are handicapped by ur bias towards voodoo and rituals. U believed the story wholeheartedly without even daring to ask questions.
Dont worry, soon enough we will put all these things to the test. People will come with their rings and talismans and try to get us to do their biddings on live TV.

KingEbukasBlog:
This is nice , really nice . So I want to know

1. when you pray do you get answers to your prayers ?

2. what's opinion about the other side , the devil and his agents ?
2b Do you think there is any sort of interference they cause on the lives of believers

1. Yes I do. But not always. And the rate of success is not any different from those who don't pray either. I have just chosen to live my life that way. Those are standards I hold myself to. I don't see it as a rule

2. As far as I am concerned, evil is only in the minds of men. The devil is just a way to shirk responsibility. The devil is everything about us that we are trying to transcend.

2b. This easily follows from (2) above. Believers or unbelievers, there is a devil in all of us. Not some fallen archangel plotting against us. But some part of our nature we actively strive against to maintain social order

felixomor:
"They are not real, they are tricks"
That would av also been ur response and escape route, had anybody shown u a video of voodoo.
Earlier u were clearly requesting for videos from camera phone, now u say u just wanted to "start there"!
Yeah ryt.
If i may ask if u "started with" videos, please where will u have "ended"?
The problem with many of ur kind is "trust".
You have the inner belief that every person is a liar, thats why u request for videos and then when somebody exposes ur weak rationale, u try to escape as u r seen doing above.
Its obvious from ur statement that no video even HD resolution would convince u because u have "trust" problem, sorry to say.

I am sure u also believe WWE is real unscripted fighting too.

KingEbukasBlog:
I'm still not convinced man . Are you a deist ?

Deist is close but not quite it. I just don't like labels. I still believe in the intervention of a supreme being though so I still say my prayers. And I am a Christian (in the sense that I believe in Jesus Christ and his philosophy of love ur neighbour and pray for them that hurt u. Not in the modern bullshit Nigerian sense that involves paying tithes to fraudulent pastors, believing everything they say and speaking in empty tongues at every turn while being corrupt at the same time). I just don't believe that because I believe in something, it is the absolute truth. I believe God has allowed us all the freedom to choose whichever belief systems we desire and excel through it. That is the first demonstration of His love. We must only act in ways to ensure that our belief systems do not hamper the exercising of that love by other people either by denying them a freedom to practice theirs or practicing ours in ways that bring harm to them. Our overall motivations must be the improvement of the human station by seeking out the laws of God through science and applying it as much as we are allowed by the universe, devising better medicine and nutrition and understanding of our place in the universe.

KingEbukasBlog:
I just hope it does not end his life or enmesh him in some spiritual bondage that manumitting him would need a powerful divine intervention . Something came up to my mind while reading his posts and seeing how passionate he is , it could be a deleterious ambition .

Its not worth it honestly .

What's not worth it? Watching u guys fumble around ur pockets in futility for tricks to confuse a generation that is increasingly asking for more proof rather than taking things by "faith"? Tah!!
It's worth it a million times. I can tell from your post that u are more scared of the injury his ambition is going to do to the snake oil modern organised religion is peddling. So u are trying to dissuade him by appealing to his sense of self-preservation.
Djdoxxx, don't let these people confuse u. I believe in God and I believe He has called u to liberate people from the shackles of religion and irrational nonsense. The world cannot advance to d next stage with people still thinking like apes and claiming they have faith. So don't let up. Find more people like u and see this through. May the good in the universe go with u.
Hopefully in the future I will start something similar. My first test will be on people who claim to be able to disappear or dematerialize. It will b the day of days.

mabea:
Sir experience they say is the best teacher but it is not always good to learn through experience.

Shut up. All we need from u is proof. Stop the scare tactic. Bring proof. Nonsense.

simplex2:
Ok doxx, you have made you're point; at this point, dragging it to the extreme would be a foolish adventure, people don't take it lightly when you mess with their believe. So I will advise that you quit the adventure and dn't go anywhere with them.

But then, if you insist, then open a youtube channel, get an adsense account and start uploading the videos. You can make some cool cash from this risky adventure.

So if you're not planning of making cool cash from this, quit now and stop risking your life. We all know their voodoo is fake.

Or better still, bring them to town as well. It is safer than going to meet them in d nether

Djdoxxx, I think a much safer way to do this will be to start some sort of foundation that put voodoo and other ludicrous claims to the test on live television or a YouTube channel. Something akin to the James Randi Educational Foundation. To do that will require cooperation from other sceptics who will pull resources together to achieve the aim.
This is why I encourage other sceptics to strive hard to be successful. For me, being successful achieves two aims. One; it shows we can be as much successful as anyone else without necessarily believing in a deity (atheists and agnostics) or confirming to majority religious standards (deists, pantheists and other fringe theists). To me, God doesn't care whether u believe in Him or not. Two; it gives us the means to subject wild claims by religious loonies to scrutiny by devising foolproof contraptions and test processes, liberating minds and probably discover any scientific laws or statistical patterns that is relevant in the process.
Let me know if u need my input in the future.

adjoviomole:
U don't know ebutemetta that's why. I will not say more than that. I don't have to convince you of anything. Trust me soon you will have an encounter with God. Bye

So the proof of your god is voodoo? Nonsense talk. If u are so sure submit urself for the test. Not all this argument from authority about knowing ebutemetta than others.

By the way, shouldn't this be a front page material? Seun. Lalastica

Bravo OP, bravo. Finally we are beginning to have more guys with the guts to call out the voodoo clowns. Not an atheist though. Just a sceptic. To me everything must be questioned; including atheism.
I now await the limb-growing evidence that someone has graciously agreed to show us here.

baddo:
A shake up is imminent.

Egbon, "shake up" get plenty meaning o. Shey na positive one u dey imply for here? Abi make I begin put eye well for my suya business?

raphieMontella:
The relation between consciousness
and body is uncomplicated in the same way that it
is uncomplicated that a cubical shape is a property
of a toy building block. consciousness is a property
exhibited by the body, one among many.
Moreover, when the body perishes, so does consciousness, just as the shape of a
building block disappears with destruction of the block...

U are sure about this? Absolutely sure? Or are u assuming and having "faith" that u are right?

What the OP is saying inadvertently is that we are God. Or at least, we are the sum total of what we call God. The idea fascinates but I am still sceptical.

I think I will just do what other people did and leave ur thread for u. U obviously were just seeking attention if u claim all what u wrote there were just mockery and not for intelligent discourse. I have marked ur moniker though. Hopefully I won't make a mistake engaging u again.
Cheers.