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airsaylongcon:
Who be d "una"? I follow cowculate 6? I just dey here dey constitute you cun tink say na 6 I goatculate. Abeg now spoil my Bonny runs o... Dear (what's the name of that natural gas company in Finima) I categorically dissociate my self from the "una" dat OkeyJames is talking about. We the 12 calculators will not be painted with a different brush

Hehehehe

StringerBell:
Hmm. I think the peeps that answered "6" to the math questn should be invited for medicals...but not as part of this recruitment exercise.

LMAO. This got me roaring with laughter at 5:30am. Dude u win the joke of the week

Dway4ward. Whether u solve that stuff left to right, right to left, inside to outside, outside to inside, upside down or diagonally, as long as u follow the rules of mathematics, the solution computes to give 12. Any other answer is not of this world.

airsaylongcon:
Spacy, see further proof

(copied from page 8 of that thread)
Let me simplify it for you by substituting the value 3 for x
You will get the following :
X + X^2 - X + X
Note this is not a linear equation that must be equal to zero hence the rules of bodmas must be applied.
Therefore we must multiply first, then add before subtracting finally.
Hence we get:
[X + X^2] - [X + X]
[ X + X^2] - 2X
Substituting values for X = 3
[3 + 9] - 6
12 - 6
= 6
There is a reason why the OP stated that 95% of you will fail this simple test.
Olodo if you math is up to scratch, simply assign Y as the answer then do the differential in the substitute equation.
Thus:
Y = X + X^2 - X + X
dy/dx = 2X
Where the differential is the point value on a static linear scale i.e. the value on the x axis since we are not dealing with a linear curve
Substituting X = 3 we get the answer 6!
Go school una no gree go.

Prof. Is this mathematics or metaphysics?
And barbiesparkz is right.

Intriguing.
I am guessing all these guys with hidden posts were testing out barbiesparkz's hypothesis

^^What is hiding all these posts?

scarletdp:
Lolzzz. .. I'll gladly join

Good. We should even start a prayer group. The theme of this week's prayer is OPENING THE GATES OF NLNG BY FIRE!!!!
Prayer!!!
Brother Scarletdp we ought always to pray and not to faint.

Prinzofparis:
I thought excellence was part of NLNG's core values?

Yeah. And so is caring for people.

adenitemi:
Lovely contribution. However, I have a few points.

Firstly, I am not for or against Federal Character. However, looking at your argument up there, you are passively suggesting that instead of picking ONLY the best of the best (as that is what their recruitment aimed to achieve), NLNG can unlook and pick others who are below par because of where they are from.

This may not look harmful to the company at face value and as you opined, Train 5 has not gotten burnt down. But look at it this way . 11 players are needed for a football match. Have you ever thought out why the 11 players of Barcelona will always beat the 11 players of Swansea? They are all players. But some are the BEST OF THE BEST, while some are good, but they are not the BEST. Same reason a Mobil, Shell, Total, PwC or Chevron won't consider Federal Character in selecting.

Looking at it the other way however, to give a fair representation for the multi ethnic society we have found ourselves, the Federal Character has to be put in use. Not an ideal situation, but one that will continue to solve our deep rooted problem as a country.

God bless Nigeria.

And God bless you

^^^Agreed. The way I see it, it is about protecting members of a disadvantaged group. In the end, it isn't a perfect system or solution. But at least it ensures that certain people aren't totally left behind based on their disadvantages or weakness. Sometimes u don't really need the crème de la crème to get a job done. You just need people good enough.

coolio2014:
Federal character? Really? And they do this in UK, US, Germany and other developed countries? Employ the best SIMPLE.

Just as University isn't meant for everyone, we have colleges of education, polytechnics etc. Pick the best without bias simple!

Ever heard of affirmative action? Do a research then come back and modify ur post. cheers

scarletdp:
WORD! Hehehehe. Where have you been bruv...

Been around bro. I've been trying to forget about NLNG until feedback starts streaming in. But recently I find myself checking this thread over and over again notwithstanding my best attempts at resisting the urge.
I have stopped climbing mountains now. I now do my prayers in the valley. I am planning to start praying on the sea and in the air too just to cover all the bases. You are invited to join me.

dchem:
I hope NLNG is learning from the latest sheriff in town by doing away with federal character and going with competence. If the best 100 or so are from the north so be it , if from the south same thing applies. Right now what we need is a a repositioning of the country and all aspect of its economy.

Statements like this make me laugh. They are usually not borne out of perfect altruistic patriotism but a fear of losing out of certain benefits should federal character become a criteria in a competitive selection process like this.
"Repositioning this country". Now I am doubled over with laughter. Dude, it's not like you are going there to invent a new train or gas compression technique. You are going there to work using techniques they are going to train you on. So how does the federal character hamper that? Anyone who got to this stage will do well at such a job. As a matter of fact, there are people who were dropped after the SHL stage who will probably do better at the job than some of us here.
Finally, the federal character technique (if really NLNG uses it) must have worked for NLNG so far. We are yet to hear that someone burnt down a whole train because he lacked the mental competence but was employed due to federal character or that people from a certain part of the country have contributed to NLNG's shortcomings, whatever that maybe. Federal character has thus far ensured that NLNG functions well and very good hands are in charge of running the company. Why should it be jettisoned at this juncture?
U really want to " reposition this country"? Then support federal character and hope that human and infrastructural development pervades all parts of Nigeria and people from every part of Nigeria get almost equal opportunities for exposure and development. Great nations do not abandon their "weak".

Djbaka:
Which location??

I guess he is referring to Bonny indigenes

Djbaka:
Which location??

I guess he is referring to Bonny indigenes

dway4ward:
First off, are you in engineering, sciences or arts? As you thinking is suspect. Can you not make informed guesses? This is an enlightened forum, don't bring tribal thinking here.
If the dry dockyard is sited in Bonny, how many ships can it service easily? You guessed it, NLNG ships solely ; not even ones from Onne port. If sited in Lagos, services thousands. Now that's an economic decision. The dockyard will be run as a revenue making entity hence needs maximum traffic to be profitable.
Please reason constructively on this thread because for one reason or the other you will be in a decision making position soon and cannot afford you spewing laced hate it tribal sentiments.

What u have just said makes sense in every way one looks at it. But I am curious to know how u arrived at the conclusion that the submission u quoted is tribally colored.
I read what u quoted and all it suggests, to me, is a curious person trying to know why NLNG is operating from Rivers and is involved in a plan to build a shipyard in Lagos. Since both states have access to the sea.
Ur reply is enlightening in every respect but I don't think it is appropriate to accuse of him of what u did and impugning his person. U probably have interacted with many people who have argued against the location of the project based solely on sentiments rather than logic and that has reinforced ur bias against similar arguments. I have been dealing with that sort of argument and trying to disabuse people of such notions all day here. So I understand.
I will advice u edit ur reply to him. People will come and read this thread and ur reply may incite them as well against an innocent (hopefully) question and the character of the person asking the question.
Cheers

scarletpimperne:
Perhaps you need to re-read what I said in context. OkeyJames said something along the lines of me prescribing panadol to someone who headache had killed... Medicine after death. This for me was supposed to be his funny way of saying I was engaging in wasted efforts wooing y'all Lagos and Abuja folks. My response wasn't saying y'all are dead folks rather a play of words that that wasn't my target market. If that was offensive (and I can see how it can be taken as offensive) then my apologies to every and anyone that was offended. My marketing style may be brash bit it is so for a reason.

Meanwhile the ministry is moving. Its best interested parties come on board before the permanent site is attained. Lol

Best of luck in your ministry. Enjoy

p4all:
I don't have time for arguments. my friend was also scheduled for 31st. They sent him another mail and he did on 28th. AC finished yesterday take it or leave it. Bye till offer letter.

LOL. But dont u think he may be right in his assertion that people who may have missed their AC will be given some few days to do theirs? And do u have any proof that AC ended yesterday besides the fact that someone u know was shifted from 31st to the 28, I mean were u expressly told about the closing date?
No vex o. Na question I dey ask no be argue I wan argue o. Please indulge me.

tk4rd:
The reason he was being so "straight" can be easily deduced.
He was at Jurus' preparatory exercise, and to him, it was not bad.
And here, someone came late and was using a different marketing technique (which to me can be seen as "last bullet approach" ), but the commenter took offence in the sense that Jurus' marketing approach made more sense to him..

But the truth is, if this guy happened to be here around middle of May, the same commenter wouldn't have minded combining both Jurus' exercises and the guy's advertised preparations, no matter the approach he used.
Note: MY USE OF THE WORD "JURUS" WAS DELIBERATE.. THANKS.. ..

U have a point there
However, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I must state that my perspective seems lost on u. And no, I didn't attend any Jurus's (according to u for whatever reason) preparatory exercise. And my reservations has nothing to do with the timing.
Compare Jurus' introduction to his. Compare the choice of words when addressing people. And compare the overall manner, u will agree with me that this new guy leaves much to be desired. I mean this guy compared some people to dead bodies. Then he went further to insult two people who just stated what they believed will be the number of people that will be finally recruited. That among others is the reason I said what I said to him.
To answer ur question, if I was to choose between either, I would easily pick Jurus because his seem more coordinated, professional and trustworthy.

Anyway I expect this thread to light up as soon as we can confirm when the AC truly finishes.

scarletdp:
If it was God preserved, then there is no way they will be denied.

Hehehe

scarletpimperne:
I never claimed I can get someone employed at NLNG! My only claim is that I can adequately prepare anyone interested to ACe his/her exam. Getting employed by the organisation is something I do not have any control over

Then u lack tact and decorum. Your approach to business is tacky to say the least. This same thing u are boastfully claiming to be able to help people achieve is what Jarus did a while back without leaving a bad taste in our mouths.
His approach has the makings of a serious business and he didnt appear to be making ridiculous claims and careless statements. You, sir, have the business saavy of a garage tout. Your choice of words is disgraceful and I wouldnt trust u as far as I can throw u.
Should u choose a career in helping people pass their exams and ACs, I would suggest u approach Jarus for tutelage. Best of luck.

airsaylongcon:
That epiphany moment when it dawns on u that NLNG will pick only 109 candidates (one per senatorial zone) and 11 Bonny indigenes for a total of 120 GTs

Omo na to return to my construction business o.

artmedia:
LoL. A lot of people just dont seem to get Scarlet and NPComplete sha. Did you hear them say its right at any point in time? All they are saying is that it happens, and your comments on here on Nairaland is not what will make it stop. Also, that if you were shown your AC performance and they told you that you did not do well, but dont worry we still want to give you the offer ahead of peeps that clearly did better, will you say 'No, I am not taking this offer as there are clearly others that did better than me'. Will you do that?

Pls dont come and be forming Champion of Morals over the keyboard when we know you will jump at the chance of skipping the tests and AC straight to offer & employment if you had that option.


Shalom!!

Gbam!!! Shalom bro.
Most of them won't just accept that offer in the scenario u stated. They will rush to the church to give testimony of God's favor. U will hear them quoting "not by power, not by might..." or "the race is not to the swift...." Some will even claim it was a seed they sowed that ensured God's hand was moved. But were they to be d victim, they will suddenly remember that "the heart of man is desperatly wicked..." or that one Prince of Persia denied them their blessings.
Case closed.

weomet:
Now I can see why evil thrives in this part of the world...let's just focus on the slots that we have and let evil thrive.That is the underlying opinion in your comment. Ignoring a problem never makes it go away. @NPComplete concerning your earlier comment of "I won't assign myself a judge of what is right and wrong in the overall affairs of men" and "I will follow laid down rules to the letter"...a robot/soldier should talk like that...I am fairly certain you are neither.

And I am fairly certain u shouldn't be fairly certain about certain things in this life
In the end it is all about how we choose to see and live life. Some people will trudge through life with a messiah complex and seek to change even those things not within their sphere of influence. Others, like me, will gracefully sidestep murky waters on the way and focus only on the things within our control.
No side is right or wrong (Weomet might disagree with this too). It is just the way we are wired.
I like ur doggedness Weomet. The world needs people like u. It also needs people like scarletdp too. Someone has to be the realist.

scarletdp:
Funny how this post began the 150th page, after reading weomet's post on page 149, I wanted to reply with 80% of what you just implied here. The bolded is just like a mirror coz it reflects me too.
These argument came about coz I said not everyone that go through the back door is a wrong hand. It does not in anyway mean the act of nepotism is right. But honestly, great minds we have here, everyone carefully constructing their own position into words that make logical sense.

And, yeah, I am like you.

Scarlet, I hail u.
Great point Dway4ward.

It all comes down to focusing on what we have control over. Even if they will be taking 50 people and 45 of the 50 slots is reserved for the "connected". Every "unconnected" candidate's prayer should be to find himself taking one of the remaining 5 slots and hope his prayer is answered. Talking about it on nairaland won't translate to a sudden change in the system of the recruitment.
It is not like one of the big men who already have reserved slots for one of his candidates will come and read this thread, read all the protests and the preaching against backdoor recruitment, and go "oh I just found Jesus. I will never ever bring in any candidate through the back door again".
That said, we have been assured many times that this recruitment relies heavily on meritocracy. So there's really nothing to worry about. This is just me having fun and ensuring this thread remains lively as our brethren in PH undergo their AC.
Cheers guys.

weomet:
So what you are saying is that backdoors are alright as long as:
- the 'gospel of John' exists
- there are enough jobs to go about
- they also use such in the developed world
- there are people born to circumvent rules and thwart procedures.
I will just ask one question in order to keep this issue short. If your friend fails to get a job and learns that it was because his/her slot was taken by another person who used a 'backdoor'. Would you tell your friend some/all of the four points i noted and conclude that 'these things happen' or would you empathise with your because you believe the he/she has been wronged?

Not even my friend. Let's use myself as an example. Do u think it has never happened to me before? And when it did happen, do u think I cried my to sleep with two hands holding my head and a single tear rolling down my cheek? Dude, u should get to know me.
I am not saying backdoor recruitment is right. But I won't assign myself a judge of what is right and wrong in the overall affairs of men. I will follow laid down rules to the letter and I will try as much as possible to avoid hurting another person as long as it doesn't imply me hurting myself. And when another person hurts me, I don't begin to wish retributive justice on them. I just pick up myself and gyrate to a spatial position of increased happiness and bliss.
And, yeah, there are actually people like me.

weomet:
okay, i guess i will just comment after much hesitation...
The whole idea of 'front door' is to ensure that everyone has a level playing field to compete on. Regardless of connection, or wealthy or education it is "right" that everyone stands a equal chance of getting in, the use of 'back doors' is definitely wrong. I read posts were people(e.g scarletdp) said "CHM" (i think) should be real as most people would use d "back door" if they could...I do not doubt that most will use such a 'back door' if it was within their reach but it still does not make it right.
It is important that we disabuse our minds from thinking that the number of people doing that a particular thing makes it right, and that we should not refrain from some acts because everyone does not .
most of the obstacles we experience as youths in this country are due to the appointment of persons into positions all because they 'know someone/have the right connection'. As we are soon to be the 'leaders of tomorrow' - in the near future, we must move beyond even refusing 'back doors' to refusing to open 'back doors' for others. Only then can we have a morally clear conscience and sustainable progress as a society.

The only main reason we are facing these obstacles u have alluded to is that there aren't enough jobs to begin with.
In a country were jobs are being created on a massive scale over the years to match the flourishing population, u hardly hear of complains like these. That isnt a pointer to the inexistence of such methods.
There will always be backdoor recruitment as long as there are humans and there are recruitments. If the gospel according to John is to be believed, after Jesus "recruited" Andrew, the first thing Andrew did was to help in "recruiting" his brother Simon Peter.
The only thing we should keep praying for is that many great indigenous companies not unlike NLNG spring up in Nigeria thus making subsequent generations less inclined to pontificate about backdoor recruitments.
Preclusion of backdoor recruitment is not left to the integrity of the employees alone. Even people who came in sweaty and disheveled through the front door may still feel obliged to let in one or two relatives easily through the back door. The only way backdoor recruitments can be prevented is for there to be a series of checks and rigorous vetting done at different points in the recruitment process to ensure only those who meet the prearranged criteria make it through.
Even after that, there will still be that lucky guy who was born to circumvent rules and thwart procedures. You have probably heard some of them giving almost incredible testimonies in your Sunday service.

CHM11:
There is nothing open and/or honest about this sentence 'going through the back door doesn't make you a wrong hand'.

For me, If you go through the back door, you are definitely a wrong hand. There are always accepted channels of getting employed by any company. Anything out of the accepted is unacceptable therefore it is definitely wrong.

Seriously? Are we really having this argument?
First off, my reference to his candour has more to do with his admission that most of us will probably use d backdoor option if it is available to us and our screams here against such methods being used in this race is owing to the fact that we are somewhat impotent hence our moral high ground.
Fact: most of us will try the backdoor option if possible. It doesnt imply we have diminished intellectual capacities but that the average human is very stingy in the expenditure of energy and would seek the path of least resistance to achieve a goal.
Secondly, let's look at the parts of your riposte I highlighted.
Wrong by whose standard? Accepted to whom?
There are accepted ways to get a job. Do u realise recommendation is part of those accepted ways. U think Obama's teenage kids are going to go through rigorous recruitment processes to get the top jobs when they come of age?
How do we define a wrong hand? While integrity is part of a companies values, getting the best hands is also important to them too. So let's assume a company started a recruitment process and then get 10 good hands in d process then along comes a genius dude making waves and they decide to give him a chance and he proves himself a magnitude of order better than the 10 and they take him. Pray tell, is he still a wrong hand according to your standard?
I get the point u are making. Sometimes such backdoor methods allow poor hands in. But not always. Life isn't always black and white. It is fifty shades of grey.

scarletdp:
Going through the back door doesn't mean you are a wrong hand. No one can honestly say if you knew someone who could pull off back door entrance for you, that they will reject it.

Your candour is what I find to be most fascinating about u. Respect man.

scarletdp:
There is an "Unfollw Link", you know.

Hehehehe

tk4rd:
Haahahahahahahaaaa.. I no more go to Romance Section dese days.. I've even forgotten their names over there.. All I do these days is just to glance over de topics that made front-page, click the ones that are news items, glance over them; then, click on my bookmark, select nlng thread, read to the last post, comment where necessary, bookmark the current last page, remove the old bookmarked page, and exit..

There is a "follow" link, u know.

ladyF:
scarletdp na ur brother b dis? Lol
Quick question for All : if u hadn't done ur AC, will u have contacted him?

Maybe it's even part of NLNG's under-gee tins to test our INTEGRITY.

hehehe. Scarletdp come here come explain urself o.
I dont think NLNG has the time for such petty tests though. They should be smart enough to have read through the thread and know that airsaylongcon has already had his AC.
This is just some smart dude hustling hard. Why he thinks airsaylongcon will be open to such an arrangement is what I am curious about.