₦airaland Forum

Adakintroy:
This man no know African history.

White man came to africa, met us and with boobs dangling. Thought us how to cover up.

Then later white man went back to Europe came back and start teaching us how the go naked.

It was never about clothes or covering up. It was about the fear of the Gods.

Naked or not. Real or imagined, if you have the Fear of God or the " god's" you will not go near a woman uninvited. Naked or covered.

Perfectly summarized

scholes0:
Their reverence for the “head” might just be co-incidental with that of the Yoruba, Furthermore- there is no proof per say that the makers of the ancient Nok works of art were the direct ancestors of todays Gbagyis, and even if they were, I am sure there are other populations descended from the same stock as well.

Yes I am familiar with their language , it sounds very much like Nupe.

Thanks for that feedback and for your insight.

scholes0:
Gbagyis? Nope..

Yorubas don’t mention them in our history even when Nupe (Tapa) is mentioned severally and is very well known. There are even towns in Yorubaland founded by Nupes.

Gbagyis are more like the Nupes without a strong culture/history- and we don’t really know them.

I'm curious though, also. Could there be any link with the fact that Nok art is found near their site and Esie (Yoruba sculptures) and other forms of Yoruba art look like Nok art? They also speak a language which falls under the Volta-Niger cluster -- "Gb" consonant and "kp" consonant

Note that they also see that head as sacred, but treat it moreso as such than the Yorubas do.

Just asking questions. (note: I think Nok is actually found in the Atyap section, but they live immediately close to Gbagyi)

BrownLondon:
please don't drag Yorubas into the mud, we don't want insult.


we are not land grabbers.


as far as Nigeria is concerned, Yorubas are predominantly found in South West (Ekiti, Lagos, Osun, Ondo, Ogun and Oyo) plus Kwara(Kwara South and Central ) and Kogi west.

we have no relationship with the gbagyi.

I am not land grabbing. I am searching for history

Thank you all for your feedback. All very eye opening. Keep them coming please

dwizzed:
That is the best way to curb crime and criminality more effectively and efficiently. Each state forming its own security agencies or geopolitical regions, as the case maybe. Look at advanced countries of the world, USA as a case a study, states having its own Police Department. Without that, NPF no fit function well and there will continually be great and humunguous loop holes.


South and east, over to you.

They even have city police. The NYPD is for New York City alone, so is LAPD

Are the Yorubas related to the Gbagyi people of the middle belt of Nigeria? Anyone with any knowledge here?

Built2last:
Fulani never forgets

You have set up Amotekun and moved on but Fulani never forgets nor forgive.

They will surely take over and make sure its within their control or infiltrate it and scatter it.

Fulani fears you being in charge of any security, that's why they occupy Army, Police, Airforce, DSS and custom.

The South is a conquered territory argue with your tribes men

Let them try

Origin:
Rumoured is the key word there.....



But it wasn't rumoured that the white man looked for their trouble first.

Yup

GeoAfrikana:
Oga, this story is just a desperate attempt to justify colonialism. Period!

Rockefeller disappeared and no one knows what really happened to him. There's no evidence for what OP posted except claim.

You people should wise up.

Exactly. Who was there to see him get killed? Noone. It is just speculation, they even admitted that in the article. People have to understand that Europeans have historically had no problems in making darker skinned people look like trash, and will continue to do it as long as it justifies them. Of course, this is not all European behavior, I should add

EMMY76:
These people looks like africans how did they becomed indigenous tribes in far away Indonesia? The Indonesians I know looks like the Chinese.

I think they migrated from Africa a long time back, personally. They look like none of their neighbors and I would expect genetic expression to form a gradient pattern, not sharp distinctions as we see in their case. Furthermore, their face and body painting, scarification and thatched roofs, suggest some similarities. This is my opinion

Nigsrdumb:
The eaten pig is the real devil.

Please do your own research. He enslaves mankind in the pretense of progress.

Imagine feeling sorry for white conquerors

ajl:
Did they come to your country or town to hunt you down or was it the usual trouble makers looking for what is not lost and land and people to conquer that got eaten? Who are the real savages? The one that kill just one man and probably fed on him or those who exterminate natives in the thousands, take over the land and resources. Apparently most Africans have learnt nothing from history. They still believe everything written so far it's by a whiteman. How do you know this is not one of their typical fake tales my moonlight stories. Remember that most of their stories about tribe people have been debunked in the past.

"Apparently most Africans have learnt nothing from history. They still believe everything written so far it's by a whiteman. How do you know this is not one of their typical fake tales my moonlight stories. Remember that most of their stories about tribe people have been debunked in the past."

Barayeks:
Imagine a white person saying this about a black tribe, what would we call him/her ?

Exactly

PrinceInTheNort:
Alhamdulillah if it's true.

In rome act like a Roman.

This is the problem. Stop accepting. Hausas accept everything that happens to them. It is costly. You have the power to change your destiny, for your betterment and for the betterment of your children after you. Stop saying Inshallah/Alhamdulillah after everything, take steps to making a change

Good, now Amotekun can expand into Kwara and Kogi and nobody better say anything too

ofeco:
ok. thanks for the clarification.

To be fair, he goes on to mention that he was sold from "Mohammedan" to "Mohammedan" down to the coast; my best guess is that muslim Yorubas with fulani connections helped move the captives from the hinterland down to the coast as the fulani likely didn't ride down to the coast themselves

ofeco:
Who sold Samuel Ajayi crowther since yoruba's did not sell their own but protected them?

The Fulani raided his village in Oyo. He literally has a biography about this on the internet. Just use google. His village in Oyo was surprise raided by the Fulani and they captured and sold the villagers, including him

So Ghana president has apologized and there have been arrests made for the attack in Ghana, meaning it was the act of a rebel group. Now we want to punish Ghana for not controlling insurgencies within its country. SMH. Who are we to talk? Boko Haram, Illegal Herdsmen, Bandits, all sorts of instability, yet we want to take retaliation against Ghana for a rebel groups criminal action that the country has clearly condemned. May God punish us if we don't show understanding; we are the biggest hypocrites

Does anybody know how we can help the family? Please share info

You people are playing with fire. The Confucius Institute is well-known to be linked to the Chinese Communist Party, which is a Chinese state Propaganda machine. This is horrible. I assert, that Nigerian schools should teach world history; ask Taiwan Hong Kong, Mongolia, for advice, they will all tell you to run far

GodPunishBiafra:
IT IS ABSOLUTE RUBBISH!

IT IS DIRTY!


I HAVE COLLECTED MORE THAN 100 SAMPLES OF THE NONSENSE DADA FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM ALL WORKS OF LIFE TO ANALYZE.

(The so-called natural ones)

WHAT I USUALLY FIND ESPECIALLY UNDER THE MICROSCOPE IS RUBBISH!!!

Please elaborate

I don't know why anyone ever expected any love from China. We are courting a brutal dictatorship and asking why they don't love us. This is what happens when you buy into a "we are the world" mentality and you don't learn world history. You will become bird food for the predator. In the States, they teach World history as a compulsory subject, and people get opportunities to learn about the nature of the government in China. Nigeria should do the same. More than just social studies and regional history, world history should be taught so that the common citizens understand how each government in the world operates and who to steer clear of.

Damn, this woman's music is just the best. She's Bariba -- they are in Nigeria and Benin


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX7e8sQattI

So, I complied a list of the most populated West African groups. These are the most populated 15 to 16 and my concept is to group West Africa in sensible cultural clusters that can be used to unite West Africa eventually into sensible divisions. See as follows:

People.........................Language (or Language group)
1) Yoruba people.........................Yoruba
2) Hausa people.........................Hausa
3) Igbo people.........................Igbo
4) Mande people.........................Mandinka/Bambara
5) Akan people.........................Ashanti Twi
6) Fulani People.........................Fufulde
7) Ijaw people.........................An Ijaw Language
8 )Ibibio people.........................Ibibio
9) Kanuri people.........................Kanuri
10) Gbagyi people.........................Gbagyi
11) Wolof people.........................Wolof

12) Tiv people.........................Tiv
13) Ewe people.........................Ewe
14) Mossi people.........................Mossi
15) Songhai people.........................Songhai

16) Fon people.........................Fon


The top 15 groups can be further culturally divided as follows:

Coastal:.........................Yoruba-------Akan-------Ewe
Riverine:.........................Igbo-------Ibibio-------Ijaw
Midwest Sahelian:.........................Hausa-------Kanuri-------Songhai
Western Sahelian:.........................Mande-------Fulani-------Wolof
Inland/Interior:.........................Gbagyi-------Tiv-------Mossi

The capital cities of these regions could easily be as follows:

Coastal:.........................Eko (Lagos)-------Abidjan-------Accra-------Monrovia-------Freetown
Riverine:.........................Enugu-------Calabar-------Port Harcourt-------Onitsa-------Aba/Idah
Midwestern Sahelian:.........................Kano-------Maiduguri-------Niamey-------Sokoto-------Zaria/Daura
Western Sahelian:.........................Dakar-------Conakry-------Bamako-------Nouakchott-------Timbuktu/Mopti
Inland/Interior:.........................Abuja-------Kaduna-------Jos-------Ougadogou-------Minna/Makurdi


My end vision is for Western Africa to become one seamless country, like the United Sates. If Cameroon could join the Riverine and Chad could join the Midwestern Sahelian, that could be culturally workable too.
Each of these regions could even serve as their own sub-governmental level; e.g. a governmental level somewhere between a country(West Africa) and a lower level, like a state.
I think this will be ultimately more satisfying for West Africa. Thoughts ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

franksunny:
All i know is that even without the pandemic called Nigerian leaders we will survive this.

No doubt, even if the sickness takes out everyone over 59 years of age, and everyone with asthma or other underlying health issues, others' immune systems will eventually get over it. But the damage could be incredibly irreversible

Flets:
The Hydroxylchloroquine and Arithrymycine mix has been proven to work for Corona virus. Nigeria will not record lots of death because the doctors are already using these meds for treatment of the infected.

Unfortunately the west (US etc) will have to conclude their clinical trials before their doctors can prescribe these meds for treatment and lifes are lost in the process. Any doctor who prescribes these med without FDA approval in the US stands to loose his/ her license. This does not in anyway mean the med does not work.

https://techstartups.com/2020/03/25/doctor-vladimir-zelenko-treated-350-coronavirus-patients-100-success-using-hydroxychloroquine-sulfate/

They can prescribe it. It's already being used to treat arthritis and one other condition. The FDA acknowledges it is not dangerous, or else it wouldn't already be in use. They just can't cosign it being used to tread covid, so they don't get in trouble if they end up being wrong, and take blame for any ill side effects correlated with wide usage of the drug at this time. It's all legal bs

Beachside:
Lol,I actually wrote that with my previous "BeachTime" account . I was surprised and amused to recently find most of my long comments and threads on this forum on Nigerian blogs, though no credits are given. Glad you found it interesting.
I'm always open to reason with all contrary opinions .

Lol, no contrary opinions, I just want to know where you found that book

I keep entertaining the thought of which division scheme would have been best for helping Nigerians both understand ourselves and live together in peace. I ran into this article online and thought I'd share. I personally think it's the best thing I've found on the topic and think Nigeria would have been better if it was thus divided:





The True Picture Of The Nigerian Situation And The Final Solution
opera.comJan 3, 2020 1:09 AM
There are 15 ethnic nations in Nigeria ,not 700 tribes like Nigerians claim. There's no such thing as tribe, there are communities.

Igbo ,Calabarians,Yoruba,Hausa/Fulani,Ijaw,Nupe ,Gbagyi,Kanuri,Angas,Urhobo,etc. are all ethnic nations which each contain communities with dialects . For example ,Ekid or Ibibio are communities and dialects of Calabar ; Ngwa ,Ikwerre ,or Onicha are Communities and dialects of Igbo ; Illaje or Ijebu are communities and dialects of Yoruba; Manga or Yerwa are communities and dialects of Kanuri ,etc.

Through out Nigeria's history , kanuri,Nupe,Igbo,Ijaw ,Angas,Yoruba,and Fulani have produced either military or democratic heads of state. With that,it's clear that power has circulated and not concentrated on one ethnic nation like many Nigerians claim . The misconception stems from the fact that most Northern Nigerians erroneously view the entire south as one people ,while the south erroneously view the entire north as Hausa/Fulani.

Nigeria is a country of 15 ethnic nations forcefully merged as one by colonial powers ,and it's important to take that into perspective when analyzing the result and current situation of Nigeria.

Nigeria is stagnant not only because of corruption ,but because of the unitary system .True federalism(Autonomy for all ethnic nations) is the only solution, and with that it wont matter what ethnicity the presidents are from .

One of the premise behind calls for disintegration of Nigeria is the erroneous belief that the Hausa/Fulani or northern Nigeria dominates and benefits from Nigeria without any contributions,but a closer look at that suggest the north is not more developed than the south and what most Nigerians view as domination or marginalization ,I view as just one big mess with no outright beneficiaries. The truth is the northern Nigeria contributes it's quota through 90 percent of Nigeria's agriculture. And in the south ,Only Calabar(akwacross) and Ijaw contribute the majority . Although that does not negate the fact that the best system of government for Nigeria is True federalism.

The idea behind Niger delta republic or Biafra are baseless and outdated . There are only ethnic nations contained within Nigeria,and each of these ethnicity deserve the right to autonomy . But I've observed that the ethnicities are not united within , and so I advise that each ethnicity first work on internal unity,then they can have diplomatic discussion and negotiations for autonomy or referendum .

Highlight :

1. No one is benefiting from the current Nigerian system .It's a lose lose for all ,but it's a bigger loss for Akwa ibom,Bayelsa ,rivers and Delta states.

2. Best system is true federalism. All ethnicity should be autonomous states with control of their resources and development

3. The ethnicity in Nigerian are internally divided and need to first unite in order to forge common front for peaceful negotiations on autonomy or secession

Source: http://news-af.feednews.com/news/detail/1b5fc50c9b4ade288912e237271fe676?client=news

I am in my studio apartment. I work in IT so I can work from home. The major grocery store in my area cut its hours down and its first hour of opening each day is for people over 60 to be able to get supplies first. I just started ordering groceries from home. I'm trying as much as possible to order everything online. I'm quiet anyway so staying indoors more isn't too much of an issue for me personally. I'm in manhattan so it's cray cray out here more than other parts of the us right now, constant sirens; i guess ambulances are picking people up. Stocked up on health supplies and foods, garlic, ginger, vitamic c, mutlivitamins, sage, etc. Also have antibiotics handy because of the risk of secondary infections, and just ordered chloroquine, piriton and azithromycin to have with me just in case. As far as mentally, no problems there, not unhealthily bothered

Sleevia:
Which China government. You all don't know what is happening in China, do you?

Better get on twitter to follow up what is happening and get first information from Chinese in Wuhan. There is no cure yet for this.

I really want the local traditional leaders to step in an figure something out for their local communities. It's definitely going to be harder in Lagos, but can surely help in other parts. Like, the Feds can provide money to the states, who will subsidize the local farmers to continue production through this and facilitate transport to different LGAs where the heads and trad rulers will facilitate distribution