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Politics › Re: Sanwo-Olu Praises Organisers, Winners Of 15 Headies Awards by NubaVertigo(m): 8:13am On Sep 06, 2022 |
Contumely2022: Useless awards. It is not useless. It contributes to the noteriety of these artists. And being nominated in it can earn you a wiki page, which makes you global |
Politics › Re: Igbos Hate Themselvs. We Yorubas Love Each Other by NubaVertigo(m): 10:14pm On Nov 22, 2021 |
meolaniyi: I am A Yoruba Muslim. But l don't like the way Lagos State government treat our Yoruba Christians. 80 % of civil servants in Lagos state are Yoruba Muslims. We treat our Yoruba Christians the way we treat Igbos, this self hatred
You stand a chance of employment in Lagos State as A Muslim from the North than A Christian from Yoruba tribe. I weep for our people
We are the worst enemy of ourselves. Yoruba man betrayed Abiola A Yoruba man betrayed Bola ige A Yoruba man Betrayed Awolowo A Yoruba betrayed Sunday Igboho
Igbos all over the world are fighting for Kanu But see how we abandoned Sunday Igboho.
I regret being a Yoruba man  Please start saying muslim Yorubas and christian Yorubas instead of the other way around. |
Family › Re: Help!!! My brother is down as his wife got back in contacts with her Ex by NubaVertigo(m): 5:07pm On Nov 19, 2021 |
There need to be moral laws against behaviors like Michael's. A man who is having exclusive "friendly" conversations with another man's wife needs to be punished by the community. Period |
Phones › Re: The Igbo API Is The First African open source Language API Focused. by NubaVertigo(m): 1:33am On Nov 15, 2021 |
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Phones › Re: The Igbo API Is The First African open source Language API Focused. by NubaVertigo(m): 4:29am On Nov 14, 2021 |
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 3:30pm On Nov 10, 2021 |
Transcriber:
 I'm going to need a transcription of that emoji |
Culture › Re: ‘Mysterious’ Cloth That Fell From The Sky In Ondo: The Truth (Photos) by NubaVertigo(m): 7:12pm On Nov 09, 2021 |
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 3:49am On Nov 09, 2021 |
Naigleria1: Multiple old accounts have described different tribes in different ways Op, you can test the credibility of your source by comparing it to earlier descriptions from colonialists, merchants and explorers because they got to witness history firsthand Don’t interrogate me if their views conflict with your views culled from a post-civil war biased piece of writing from a country that masterminded the demise of 2 million Igbo people just to secure petrodollars. It would surprise you how they described and laid emphasis on the Igbo people For the most part, nobody is better or worse here. The people not forming under one political unit isn’t a bad thing, the Greeks never did, yet they spearheaded science, arts, literature, etc. Regardless of that, you are free to assume whatever you will. I don't understand... what are these phantom contradictions you are evasively alluding to? Where are your earlier sources which claimed to do something comparable? I think you are trying to tell me you disagree with certain things in the write-up. Can you just tell me what you disagree with? I am all ears. I am just joking about Yorubas being the best. I love my people and it is what it is. Personally, I think the intelligence gathering there did a phenomenal job as there is no-one in the country that is not already acquainted with many of the designations here allotted to each group. Only ones that were really news to me, were Nupe, Ibibio for the most part |
Business › Re: Can A Man In His Early 30s Do Akara & Akamu Busines Without Shame? by NubaVertigo(m): 7:00pm On Nov 08, 2021 |
A man can do anything without shame. |
Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 2:30pm On Nov 03, 2021 |
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Culture › Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by NubaVertigo(m): 11:14am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Ijesha |
Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 11:09am On Nov 03, 2021 |
The awesome Ibibio too..
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 10:58am On Nov 03, 2021 |
CountVersailles: Grow up and stop wallowing in tribalism. It's not healthy and makes you subhuman Will you sharrap |
Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:26am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Slight fix here
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:16am On Nov 03, 2021 |
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:15am On Nov 03, 2021 |
kanuri
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:14am On Nov 03, 2021 |
benin ijaw nupe and tiv..
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:13am On Nov 03, 2021 |
houssa
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Culture › Re: Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:12am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Ibo
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Culture › Was The US Army Handbook Right About Yorubas, Igbos, And Hausas In 1964? by NubaVertigo(op): 1:11am On Nov 03, 2021 |
So I was reading these and I noticed that Yorubas are the BEST
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Culture › Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by NubaVertigo(m): 1:07am On Nov 03, 2021 |
Alaafin lol |
Crime › Re: Missing Faruq Osilalu Found Dead In The US (Photos) by NubaVertigo(m): 7:26pm On Oct 30, 2021 |
Johncables402: I know those lazy blacks for that country did it . They are as wicked as the Zulus in South Africa. Look at the fine man they dropped because of envy . One of those blacks literally had a baby with him. But I guess you see what you want to see sha. Try not to apply the Nigerian system to the US. In the US, you are to be innocent until proven guilty. You can't just be "knowing" someone did it and call yourself a normal person. |
Romance › Re: Body Count Means Everything Don't Be Deceived by NubaVertigo(m): 11:51am On Oct 25, 2021 |
chukwunweikeemi: It is God's design that sexual activities should take place only between a man and a woman who are legally married.Those who go against his plan will suffer the consequences.Some men lie to themselves that virginity is only for females while men are free to live an immoral lifestyle.The truth remains that no where are men exempted from the call to sexual purity.Men who sleep around are qualified to be described with those same adjectives they use to describe women who sleep around.It is unjust for two persons to engage in sin and then one of them is made to feel like the bigger sinner.I hate double standards.Is it not funny that men go about looking for a woman with little or no body counts while they(men) go about increasing the female body counts by their own sexually reckless lifestyles? Is it not foolish that some men measure masculinity on a scale of sexual immorality and other vices? Would It be wrong to say that men are busy destroying that which they seek and unless they become the change they want to see they will continue to wail for the lack of decent women? Now, I am not in any way saying that my own gender is solely responsible for the moral decadence,instead I want to open their eyes to the roles they have to play in healing our nearly morally bankrupt society. Let's start by being good men and gradualy everything will fall in place. God bless. |
Romance › Re: Body Count Means Everything Don't Be Deceived by NubaVertigo(m): 11:46am On Oct 25, 2021 |
Pussywar: It matters to people who want it to matter, and those people are worthless to me. Take several seats. Confirmed idiot |
Romance › Re: My New Girlfriend Went Back To Her Abusive Ex Boyfriend by NubaVertigo(m): 11:25am On Oct 25, 2021 |
I was once renting a room out to a guy who brought his new girlfriend to live with him at my apt. She came in a cast on her right arm because her ex had broken it. So, this guy starts beating her too, and tries to rebreak the arm. I hear it and call the police. He runs when he realizes police are coming, while threatening me. She meets police and doesn't file charges but gives me the impression she is grateful I saved her and she now knows what to do next. Few days later, I see them walking arm to arm together and am as confused as anything.
The way he beat her was pretty evil too as he tried to rebreak her arm that was already in a cast. One day her arm will come off |
Culture › Re: Yoruba Civilization Is Just Too Strong by NubaVertigo(m): 1:14am On Oct 25, 2021 |
bigfrancis21: This is a topic I know very well.
Actually, Yoruba slaves were among the last to be sold into slavery and Yoruba slave trading peaked during the period slavery was being abolished and slaves were gaining more freedom and rights. The bulk of Yoruba slaves came from Oyo-Dahomey wars in the 1800s, however african slavery started from the 1600s and until mid 1800s. Yoruba slaves did not start to feature in slavery until the late 1700s, peaking in the early to mid 1800s.
In order to understand deeper why Yoruba religion survived the most, you need to understand the conditions of living and times then. From the 1600s up until 1700s, slaves upon arrival were stripped off their identities, given new names, baptized as Christians and forced to learn the new language. Earlier-arriving and acculturated slaves were required to teach the newly arrived the new language and slaves were often paired with members from different tribes to break any tribal cohesion and ensure that African language transmission was difficult. By the 1800s, after slavery was abolished, this no longer was in force and times had changed drastically. Yoruba slaves, by and large, were not subject to harsh cultural stripping strictly enforced merely 100 years prior.
During the Oyo-Dahomey wars, several Yoruba villages were captured by the Dahomeans in their entirety and the entire village sold off together into slavery, including their gods and religious artefacts. Infact, the Dahomeans raided Yoruba villages frequently and successfully that Abeokuta was created in 1825 as a safe heaven from frequent slave raids by the Dahomeans. The British outlawed slavery in 1809 but abolishment became more enforced in the 1820s and Yoruba slavery peaked in the early 1800s to the mid 1800s.
Upon arrival in the Americas, Yoruba slaves enjoyed more freedom and liberty vs other slaves who had arrived earlier - a great number of these other slaves were American-born with very faint remembrance of home. To the Yoruba slaves, their ancestral home were still fresh. Slaves were starting to gain freedom - freedom to live as a free man, freedom to practice your religion freely etc. In some texts, the status of Yoruba slaves was more like indentured servants, who weren't slaves, often got paid and had more rights.
On the African continent, the British had established in Lagos in the mid 1800s and the Oba at that time period declared that any Yoruba descendants sold into slavery were free to return. Thus, hundreds, if not thousands, returned to Lagos where they settled and they brought with them Caribbean culture. Bishop Ajayi Crowther, is an example of a Yoruba slave captured with his entire village, who later returned to Yoruba land upon the clarion call to return home.
https://www.blackhistorymonth.org.uk/article/section/history-of-slavery/community-heroes-of-the-past-bishop-samuel-ajayi-crowther/
Being the last major slave group to arrive, they brought their culture and religion, which was still fresh in them, and taught them to other acculturated slaves who often were looking to reconnect to mama Africa. From there, the religion gradually grew and expanded to a few other countries where Yoruba slaves were not even sent to. Ifa religion has become an all-encompassing religion for afro-descendants looking to reconnect to mama Africa, but understand that not all Ifa adherents are necessarily of Yoruba descent. Black descendants of other African tribal descent freely joined and became members of the religion. Roman Catholicism originated from Rome and today has millions of adherents worldwide, however, majority of Roman Catholics are not Roman, neither are they of Roman ancestry.
In terms of numbers, the estimated number of Yoruba slave exports was no more than 500,000. In comparison, 1.2m Igbo slaves were exported from the Bight of Biafra. Yoruba slaves were exported mostly via the Bight of Benin. See attached pictures below.
As of the late 1800s to early 1900s, Yoruba language was a living language in South America (a living language refers to being spoken natively at home, within the surrounding community, at the market etc.), spoken especially by African-born slaves, who had become older. However, between 1920 to 1930, the language had gone extinct as a native language spoken in the Americas.
Understand that today, Yoruba is not spoken as a native language in the Caribbean or Americas. It has survived, however, as a liturgical language, similar to how Latin is used by the Catholic church during religions celebration but not spoken beyond religious settings. The priests are often more fluent in reciting the language recitals than the members, and are often taught proper pronunciations and word meanings during priestly initiations.
Given the favorable circumstances in which Yoruba slaves found themselves, it is often wondered why the language did not survive as a native language and transmitted down to generations living today, similar to what we have in Africa?
Finally, the black renaissance has been on the rise since the early 2000s and the reconnection of afro descendants to the motherland has been stronger than ever. The Ifa religion is often among the first pieces of cultural connection interested afro descendants come across and cling on to, regardless of if they are actually of Yoruba ancestry or not, thus contributing more to the spread and popularity of Ifa in the Americas. Something tells me tribal marks also played a vital role in helping Yorubas re-establish community on the other side, which should, if true, help the argument for the resilience of Yoruba culture besides post 1807 seeing the most Yoruba captives. |
Culture › Re: Do Black Americans have the right to wear Nigerian clothing and participate in by NubaVertigo(m): 1:26am On Oct 18, 2021 |
Fodiyo26: Traditions of they find they’re mostly Nigerian?
I’m in a very heated debate over this with someone. My answer is “no” simply because Nigeria has a ton of tribes with different clothing, food, and traditions. They can’t just pick one and run with it; it might not even be the one they descended from. If they can find the particular TRIBE they descended from I might be okay with it (MIGHT) but they can’t so it’s useless.
Besides, even if Nigeria was made up of one tribe, you don’t see White Americans rocking Irish or Scottish clothing and participating in their traditions. They see themselves as purely American. Black Americans have been in America for longer than a lot of white Americans so they should do the same by now.
What do you think? I live in America. Despite the success you see on tv, black Americans have a deep need to identify with something they've lost. It's not all happy stories for them. We have a piece of a puzzle that they are missing and the historical therapy is needed. Simply wearing African clothing is one of the ways they can do it. You may never understand if your ancestor was not taken across an ocean and your identity removed. Letting them wear African clothing is literally the least we could do. I don't even know why this would be a question |
Health › Re: Help!! Fungi Is Spoiling My Face And Neck by NubaVertigo(m): 1:14am On Oct 18, 2021 |
tycoon3: Good morning house, I started noticing something on my fore head like eczema I have used creams funbact A and likes still the same, I also used some drugs to flush the system maybe it was dirt in the blood still the same, then I visited the hospital and was told it's a fungi infection that I don't need drugs or injection for it, I was given a tube cream to rub on it morning and night I even bought another one after that got finished still the same, though the doctor said if it's still the same after rubbing the cream that I should visit a dermatologist, I visited a general hospital it was a full day with out result, please doctor in the house help. What do I need to do to get my normal skill back this is irritating.
Doctors in the house help. It's inching and scratching when there is heat Eat plenty of garlic. It will make you smell really bad so there are side effects. Also ginger |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Huge Explosion Hits Shia Mosque In Afghanistan, 32 Killed by NubaVertigo(m): 9:12pm On Oct 15, 2021 |
SSIPON: Again, I am not even religious. You don't know the history of Christianity.
Again, quote me anywhere. What Islam is today, is what Christianity was hundreds of years ago. I'm going to venture to say that Christianity was that way because the masses couldn't read and it was open to interpretation. Islam is different in that the masses can read and there is still violence rampant |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Huge Explosion Hits Shia Mosque In Afghanistan, 32 Killed by NubaVertigo(m): 9:07pm On Oct 15, 2021 |
Larry253: Deeply troubling !!! You mean Deeply peaceful |
Politics › Re: Arewa And Oduduwa More Alike Than Unlike By Farooq Kperogi by NubaVertigo(m): 11:00pm On Oct 10, 2021 |
DD29: But They Both Share And Practice Islam As A Religioun Even Though The Yorubas Dilute Their Islam With Some Cultural Practice And Are Highly Infidelity The fukk is that supposed to mean? |