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The traditional leaders will also need to step in to help control their areas. Put out notices for lockdowns, even like in the old town crier fashion. They also need to figure out funding for the local peoples' food necessities, and work with the local and federal governments on this. This is where the traditional leaders are needed, they serve in some capacities as respected mayors

Please don't go. God would rather have you save a life than spread germs. Maybe you're a good Christian, okay, but the person next to you may not, and may fall sick

gozzlin:
Does it mean Italians naturally do not have strong immune system or what?

I read that some italian textile manufacturing was outsourced to China and along with that industrial exchange, large amounts of Wuhan residents were working as expatriates in Italy. If I find the article, I'll link it

eni4real:
How are you faring now??

fairing well.

salford:
I believe the virus has been in North America (Canada/US/Mexico) for a while Dec/Jan I think. The Chinese government kept it secret for a longtime. I am in Canada, and I had a similar experience but mine was shortlived (maybe in a space of 2 weeks). I had symptoms on maybe 4 to 7 days in between the two weeks. The symptoms were not consistent too so it makes it more confusing. Like heavy breathing on day 1, fever on day 3, sore throat on day 7. They dissapear quickly just as they came. The symptoms occured separately and not together. Told my wife and she thought I was hallucinating or something.

I suddenly woke up from sleep and found myself breathing heavily. If I was a sound sleeper, I probably won't even wake up or notice. I almost went back to sleep immediately and up till today, that experience was still strange to me. This was sometimes around late February. I had a few chills (like very mild fever) in between. I later developed a sore throat few days after. I have rarely have a sore throat. Now the sore throat is gone after I started gaggling with hot water.
Interestingly, some people, wont even know they had it. They would just think they had a cold or a mild flu. It's when it gets into the body of the elderly or those with serious underlying condition that it causes issues.

I agree. With all the rapid intertravel in today's time, it has definitely been around for a while. There is a cnn youtube video where one guy in Georgia state caught it and was turned away from the hospital because they hadn't yet got coronavirus test equipement, so he went back to his church and sung in his choir and everything, his wife is a flight attendant and a few others in the choir now have it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcb38Pbmmpw

DAVE5:
Jeez, I don't know what to type or ask you at all


Most important question of all

Are you ok now?

I am okay

YorubaKinging:
I am not doubting the existence of this virus
But I think the drastic measures are far more over reactions
What's alarming is these measures are employed throughout the world making it the first time we are closer to making religions unlawful

This is the beginning of the end
The new world is shaping up
Believe it or not

Caution has to be taken. I'm in the US; I'm going to be honest I caught it. It's no joke and is very strong. I had the shortness of breath, I've never had trouble breathing all my life, but all of a sudden my breathing was heavy and slow and it felt like I was only taking in about 25% of my normal Oxygen intake. I had to take lots of home remedies as they temporarily let the symptoms subside. Who knows how much of my breathing would have been eliminated otherwise. Someone with asthma = dead. I also had muscle pain around my body and intense chest pain in my chest. It started with a concentrated sore throat, and at some point I just started feeling phlegm drop down my throat. Luckily for me, I can connect to my job from home. At the end of January, I know someone who traveled from Hong Kong, and arrived with a nasty cough and was under bed rest. I attended an event in their apartment for about 3 hours. This is when the news had just broke out and only Wuhan's Hubei province was under quarantine so nobody thought much of it.. It's very serious, and even for those that will get past it, they will cause harm for others that are either old, have asthma, sickle cell anemia, etc etc... not to be taken lightly, it's not conspiracy, it's a real contagious virus. I understand where you're coming from where you are only hearing about it but can't see any results, but there is no doubt when you catch it

They need to close the borders now

Ok Yorubas, we need to stop this

Korede Bello - Sun Momi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=jhjNBhkxY7Y&feature=emb_logo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhjNBhkxY7Y

There's a thin line between activists and disguised-to-be activists. I hope they are not attacking actual activists. Everyone you disagree with is not interfering with your elections. But then again, if they were working from that troll factory in Russia, then that's pretty suspect.

NaMeAboki:
My bad, it was the Alaafin of Oyo; not the Ooni of Ife - it nonetheless suggest he could have done so to the Ooni if he chose because he clearly had the capacity to do so.

https://www.legit.ng/1108797-how-chief-obafemi-awolowo-dethroned-alaafin-oyo-oba-adeyemi-adeniran-married.html

At least, not without consulting the other Obas in the land:

"Awolowo then stated that the government had outrun their patience and could no longer tolerate his insubordination, and after consultation with the other Obas, he was suspended from office and removed from the native authority. Read more: https://www.legit.ng/1108797-how-chief-obafemi-awolowo-dethroned-alaafin-oyo-oba-adeyemi-adeniran-married.html"

NaMeAboki:
Check your history on how Awolowo dethroned the former.

Bruh, stop lying

hisexcellency34:
Nobody can try that with Ooni of Ife or Oba of Benin

We need to try that with the Emir of Ilorin. Looks like this is how it's done..

Guys, I have a wonderful idea!

https://sites.psu.edu/global/files/2017/04/Africa-1wpffkr.jpg

Premises:

The position of a presiding official (President) is necessary at each highest level established

The 3 body government (as utilized by the US) is advantageous for replication

The following is a good idea

I will give a short dissertation including the following divisions:
Subcontinental; Regional; National; State(Departmental/Provincial) ;City(Municipal); LGA(Sud-divisional); Neighborhood

I will use where I was born as an example:

A. Subcontinental - West Africa
B. Regional - Greater Benin-Oyo-Togo
C. National - Yoruba
D. State - Lagos
E. City - Lagos
F. LGA -Kosofe
G. Neighborhood - Anthony

A. Here is a proposal of the constituents of West Africa

Benin
Burkina Faso
Cabo Verde (Cape Verde)
Cameroon (ADDED)
Chad (ADDED)
Côte d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast)
The Gambia
Ghana
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Liberia
Mali
Mauritania
Niger
Nigeria
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha (United Kingdom Overseas Territory)
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Togo


B. Here is a proposal of Regions

THESE NAMES ARE JUST THE BEST I CAN DO, DON'T LOSE THE IDEA

1. Greater Biafra - Spanning Cameroon to South-East Nigeria, roughly
2. Greater Benin-Oyo-Togo - Spanning Benin Kingdom to Togo, roughly
3. Gold Coast - Spanning Ghana to Liberia, roughly
4. Pular Coast - Guinea, Gunea-Bissau region, Sierra Leone, roughly
5. Historic Mali - Senegal, Gambia, Mauritania, Mali, Burkina Faso, roughly
6. Greater Chadic Region - Niger, Hausa States, Kanuri States, Chad, roughly


C. Here is a proposal of Nations -- a quite unfair one frankly, but a possibly useful one
Prerequisite: a population of say at least 2 million adherents

Hausa
Yoruba
Igbo
Fulani
Ashanti (or simply Akan)
Fante (or simply Akan)
Mandinka (or simply Mande)
Bambara (or simply Mande)
Soninke (or simply Mande)
Ijaw
Kanuri
Mole-Dagbani
Ewe
Songhai
etc (including Edo, and many others)
Much smaller groups that already live in proximity can conjoin to form nations of joined identities


D. States will exist as they currently are

E. Cities will exist as they currently are

F. LGAs will exist as they currently are

G. Neighborhoods will continue to exist for their purposes

Colonial borders will be rethought

*******LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT******

A The West African Subcontinent
- One elected President, elected by all West Africans
- Three elected Senators sent from each Region each (Eg. The Benin-Oyo-Togo) to make Subcontinental laws
- A proportionate amount of Representatives sent from each region to reflect the population sizes of the regions.

B The Regions
- One elected Chancellor (regional president) each
- Two elected senators sent from each Nation (Eg. Yoruba) to make Regional laws
- A proportionate amount of Representatives sent from each nation to reflect the population sizes of the nations.

C The Nations
- One elected Head of Nation each
- One elected senator sent from each State(Eg. Lagos State) in the Nation to help draft National laws
- A proportionate amount of Representatives sent from each state to reflect the population sizes of the states..

D The Sate
- One elected Governor
- Their Council/Board/Congress

E The City/Town/Village
- One Mayor/Chief/Ceremonial King
- Their Council/Board

F The LGA
- Their Council/Board

G The neighborhood
- Their Council/Board for neighborhood development

Corresponding judicial bodies will also exist at each higher level, like A to E.

********implementation******

Okay, so two obvious barriers to change will be Religion and Asset Control (e.g. a sitting official will not accept restructuring in their territory because of what they stand to lose in the process)

Few things...

1. No restructuring, as suggested above will be necessary from points D to G. More officials may be elected, but there will be minimal changes, if any there, as these things already exist or can be built on without losses

2. Point A is non-existent and will need to be created through West African elections

3. Point B to C is where problems lie and where the bulk of any changes lie.
Eg. In order to have a Yoruba Head of Nation, a Fon President from the Republic of Benin will need to dissolve the country that they preside over. This is obviously contentious.

My suggestion is this: In order to create the offices of Head of Nation for capital ethnic groups (about 2 milli or more, or sizable conjoinings of smaller groups) in the West African Subcontinent, all sitting Presidents of an ethnicity will default to the Head of Nation of their respective Ethnicity for the rest of their term with all existing amenities in place.

This will mean that a Fon president of the Republic of Benin will default to the President of the Fon people, without election for the rest of their term with all salaries and presidential amenities in place and unchanged; elections will resume at the following election cycle exclusively for the newly designated nation of a region of the sub-continent. In the case where more than one individual of the same ethnicity preside over more than one country, all preference will be given to them in presidential re-designation within their newly designated nation of a region of the subcontinent. For instance, if a Fulani is the president of Guinea, Guinea Bissau, and Nigeria, one will become the chancellor and vice chancellor of the Pular Coastal (or whatever name), one the Head of Nation of the Fulani Nation and another the vice Head of nation of the same group. The idea is that all governmental privilege and right of way should be tailored to those in office at implementation time, with the upscale direction taken as much as possible; eg. priority given to the pres of Guinea in being the chancellor of the collection of both Guinea and Guinea Bissau is up-scaling.

For the Regional Chancellors, new elections will need to be held, unless contentions necessitate, as discussed, up-scaling priorities for the length of the contentious sitting president as everyone deserves their place, but it is unlikely that many of these cases will arise as there aren't many cases where one ethnicity is presiding over many of the listed countries.......

For the Subcontinental President, new elections will need to be held.

The Subcontinent will be on par with the status of a modern nation, and it is this President that will represent a country/lead the army, which brings me to the next point.


********DEFENSE**********

The army will exist on the Subcontinental level and provide defense to the entire Subcontinental Country in war-time

There should be police from levels A to either D, E, or F.
Eg.
A WASP - West African Subcontinental Police
B Benin-Oyo-Togo Regional Police, which will acquiesce to the Subcontinental Police in the same way the NYPD acquiesce to the FBI
C Yoruba National Police, which will acquiesce to the Regional Police in the same way the NYPD acquiesce to the FBI
D Lagos State Police, which will acquiesce to the National Police in the same way the NYPD acquiesce to the FBI
E Lagos City Police, if desired by the state and city governments, which will acquiesce to the State Police in the same way the NYPD acquiesce to the FBI
F Kosofe LGA watch or something like that, or even LGA police if the higher governments agree to it for security reasons.
G Neighborhood Watch committees, if desired too


************IMPLICATIONS and SCALABILITY***************

The Idea here is to have the Continent stop being so fragmented for little reason, but to form countries based on similarity in region and cultures without compromising our individuality, roots, and own unique contributions to contentious extents. If Countries can be formed out of Sub-continents as in the attached pic, it sets the stage for Continents to be joined later...

Eg.

Adding one layer of Presidency and Congress could lead to the Union of West Africa, Central Africa, East Africa, and Southern Africa, when the world is ready for such harmony. 4 senators and proportionate representatives sent. This will be an Eighth layer, accordingly
Adding another layer of Presidency and Congress could lead to the Union of Sub-saharan Africa and the Arab League, when the world is ready for such harmony. 5 senators and proportionate representatives sent. This will be a Ninth layer, accordingly

I tend to divide the world into three large sections, the West (North, and South America, and the Caribbean), The Middle (Europe and Africa), and the East (Northern, and South, and South Eastern Asia, and Oceania, with the Pacific Islands)

Adding yet another layer of Presidency and Congress could lead to the Union of the collection of Sub-saharan Africa and the Arab League with the collection of say Western and Eastern Europe, when the world is ready for such harmony. 6 senators and proportionate representatives sent. This will be a Tenth layer, accordingly

Adding yet another layer of Presidency and Congress could lead to the Union of the collection of Africa and Europe with the collection of North and South America, and the collection of all of Asia and the pacific,, when the world is ready for such harmony. 7 senators and proportionate representatives sent. This will be a Eleventh layer, accordingly

Many positions in government will be open at any level of implementation and a divided government system can further act as check and balance where needed.. But the expansion is only speculative, the main level of interest is Western Africa


Notable Addition

***********LANGUAGES*********

A Subcontinental Level - Official language could be the largest one spoken, E.g Hausa
B Regional Level - Could be the largest one spoken in the Region, Eg. In the Benin-Oyo-Togo Region, Yoruba
C National Level - The Nation's language and the Colonial Language, eg. Yoruba and English for someone from here
All lower levels will not introduce new languages... therefore a Yoruba person would be able to communicate in the Subregional language, the Largest Regional Language, and the Colonial language that particularly applies to them.

This is Nairaland, I post ideas. I want feedback, or just someone to steal my idea and run with it on some level

What else is she supposed to do? I don't think some of you understand how bad trump is. There are literally kids on the Southern border dying without their parents due to this administration. Ripping up his speech was hella refreshing. She's got my support

What else is she supposed to do? I don't think some of you understand how bad trump is. There are literally kids on the Southern border dying without their parents due to this administration. Ripping up his speech was hella refreshing. She's got my support

This is bad

Salatiel & Daphne - Comme Ca

Must See!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqRzgOwNf3Y

Turantula:
Thank God I didn't read it before some people will come for my head. Thank God also that nothing like Igbo was mentioned in the whole article, but before the thread gets to next page some people will start blaming Igbos for their ordeal

I mean, technically, it is the Igbos fault

Moving this to Politics section..

Came across this article.. interesting!

https://punchng.com/plan-to-install-yoruba-oba-in-ilorin-not-over-kasum-leader-of-afonja-descendants/ :

The President, Afonja Descendants Union, Alhaji Olola Kasum, in this interview with SUCCESS NWOGU discusses the relationship between the Yoruba in Ilorin and the ruling Fulani

Kindly recount the encounter between Afonja and Alimi?

It was quite a long time ago. In the course of history, Afonja, the Aare Ona Kakanfo in the then old Oyo Empire, had a conflict with the Alaafin of Oyo. Afonja was accused of undermining the king. What actually happened was that when Alaafin Abiodun died, Afonja and Awole contested the throne but Awole got it, so Afonja returned to Ilorin, his base, where he was the Garrison Commander of the northern Yoruba boundary. The tradition in Oyo town then was that a new king would tell his personal guards those he considered as his enemies. Awole told his guards to see Afonja as his principal enemy. Afonja knew that something like that would happen because he had contested the throne with a lion (Alaafin).



When Afonja got wind that Alaafin was preparing for war against him, he mobilised the Oyo Army under his command. It was in the process that Alaafin Awole shot arrows into the North, East, West and South and declared thus, “Afonja will be a king wherever he goes. His children will be princes and princesses but they will serve under slaves.” It was the curse of Awole that made the Afonja lineage in Ilorin to be perpetually under the Fulani domination till today.

How did it happen?

Alimi, a Fulani, whose real name was Jinnata, came to Ilorin from a town in Niger Republic in those days. He was actually Allahmi, meaning a great scholar. The Yoruba reduced it to Alimi for ease of pronunciation. He was a herdsman. He first settled in Nugusha and from there, he came to Gwandu. He had a child called Al-Salihu, who embraced the Islamic religion. Before then, they were all pagans. So, Al-Salihu went to Sokoto to learn under Shehu Usman Dan Fodio. He was a member of the 14 flag bearers, who were assigned to spread Islam all over the world. Al-Salihu took it upon himself to come down south and start the propagation of Islam in the old Oyo Empire, populated mainly by the Yoruba. He was of the view that Yoruba land was the only place that he could spread his religion by force. He first settled near Ogbomoso on his way to Oyo but the people of Ogbomosho consulted their oracle who told them that Al-Salihu’s religion would grow and submerge them. They drove him and his people away and he fled to Oyo. The Oyo people also consulted their oracle, who also warned them against accommodating the Fulani. The oracle specifically told them the man would seize their land, possession and crown if he was not immediately chased away. That was how Al-Salihu left Oyo and settled at Guwo (near Jebba), which is 60 miles from Ilorin. It was when he was at Guwo that Afonja learnt about him. Al-Salihu performed a miracle there, which actually attracted the attention of the populace. There was a big python that was swallowing up children. They prayed to their god for help but there was no remedy. Al-Salihu prayed to Allah and lightning cut that big python into two and it died. So, his (Al-Salihu’s) fame spread far and wide.

By that time, Afonja was having serious confrontations with Awule and was looking for soldiers to fight the Oyo king. So, he told some Fulani group who were already settled in Ilorin that he wanted to see their man. They went to Guwo and brought him to Ilorin. When he was coming, he came with a large number of followers and settled them in different parts of Ilorin. He put some in Idi-Ape, some in Idiakwe, and some in Okelele. They became so powerful until they invariable dominated the Yoruba in Ilorin.

What is your impression of the Fulani?

The Fulani are very aggressive, unforgiving, tactical and cunning. They plan before they act. They take you by surprise and they are enmeshed in mystic powers. I recall a story when a Fulani man was caught dropping a concoction into a well so that whoever drink it will always be thinking about him. That was what happened to the politics of Kwara State. The Fulani used their mystic powers to make other tribes in Kwara State, become their slaves. They did it to us (the Afonja dynasty) too. That was how virtually everybody became their slaves till today.

Did you also drink from the water?

I was born in Ghana; so I didn’t fall into their diabolical practice.



But the Fulani who live in the cities are not violent.

Those who live in the cities among them are not violent but those in the bush are very wicked and mean. Those in the bush are called the Bororos. The Fulani in the towns, who are well-bred and refined, are tactical. They would get you whenever they want to get you. They do not forgive. If you offend them, they will never forgive you until they die. They are quick to take over power. They are very clever and very cunning. They know how to trick and get somebody out of a position.

How did the Fulani become the rulers of Ilorin?

The leader of the first set of Fulani (Alimi) came to Ilorin as a helper so that he could assist Afonja to build an empire for himself. But in the long run, they had a disagreement. He was a man who knew the way of Allah and he taught the people the power of God and how to get closer to Him. He combined religious powers with politics and within a short period, he converted the Yoruba to Muslims and made sure they act and behave like the Fulani.

How did he achieve that?

There is an erroneous belief that the Ilorin people never celebrated the egungun (masquerade) festival. We actually did before Alimi came with his group. We used to celebrate egungun as an annual festival. Because Afonja was a kind-hearted man, he gave the Fulani freedom to conduct their Islamic activities without any form of restriction. The Fulani built mosques and established Quoranic schools. Afonja even appointed Al-Salihu as his special adviser. During a particular annual egungun festival, the Fulani Muslims were also conducting Tafsir (teaching of Islam). The Muslim cleric preached against the celebration of egungun and described it as idol worshipping. The people who were celebrating egungun were not happy because the Islamic adherents were laughing at them; so, they started throwing stones at the cleric and his members.

The Muslims fled from the spot of their open crusade and they ran to their community but the egungun worshippers followed them there. There was a big fight which snowballed into a big conflict and it consumed our area, Idi-Ape. Some people were killed.

Also, when Alimi died, there was a clamour for a system of government whereby one person, who would combine religious and traditional role, would be the ruler of Ilorin. So, the position was contested by the Fulani, the Hausa and the Yoruba. So, the Fulani Muslims, who were Alimi’s family, the Hausa (bag and rosaries’ makers) led by one Bako from Kano and the Yoruba, who are the Afonja descendants based in the Okesuna area of Ilorin, conducted an election.

When Alimi and Hausa people were alarmed with the threat posed by the Okesuna people based on their intimidating population, they combined their votes to beat the Okesuna group led by a Yoruba man, whose dynasty was leading the community even before the Fulani came. That was how the Ilorin royalty shifted from the original Afonja family to the Alimi family till today. That was how the Fulani came to power in Ilorin.

Is it still possible to have a Yoruba Oba in Ilorin?

It is possible now because the Yoruba are in the majority and already, there is a hybrid. The younger sister of the current Emir of Ilorin, Alhaji Ibrahim Sulu-Gambari, married my brother. She is fondly called Iya. She married the late Aare Adisa Suberu. So, my late brother was the husband of Emir’s daughter and they had many children. Our family is very close to the palace. We are friends and we cannot fight unless there is a great reason why we should fight. We are one family. When the late Emir, Sulu Gambari, was dying, he appealed to all the Fulani to cooperate with their hosts (the Yoruba) and told them that he gave his daughter to my brother, the late Adisa Suberu, as a bond of love and unity. Some people are expecting that we should fight and kill ourselves so that Yoruba could be Oba in Ilorin but that will never happen. We may disagree about who will be the head, but it will be a minor issue. The children of the Emir are married to us. The problem will be solved one day. The only problem is that the Fulani are too greedy and hungry for power. They want to occupy the position alone.

What stopped the Yoruba from installing an Oba of Ilorin?

Yoruba can install an Oba in Ilorin because we are the majority tribe. The challenge we had in the past was that we were not educated but in the present era, we are highly educated. During the colonial period, the Fulani seized the opportunity of indirect rule to educate their people in Ilorin at the detriment of the Yoruba. The Emir (a Fulani), was the chairman of the Scholarship Board (in the defunct northern region). He included mainly the Fulani in the list of beneficiaries. That was how the Belgore brothers and other Fulani youths in Ilorin studied both in Nigeria and abroad on full government scholarship. The Belgore brothers went to London and studied law and came back to hold influential positions. During the period, one of my brother, the late Atanda Kassum, applied for scholarship when he completed his secondary school education in Ghana but the Fulani denied him when they discovered that he was Yoruba. However, the current hybrid situation has solved the problem. We do not see ourselves as enemies any more.

Are you saying you have jettisoned the idea of having a Yoruba Oba?

Yoruba will still install an Oba because despite the fact that we are in the majority, we are being denied a lot of things and we are dissatisfied with the present system. We and the Fulani are now blood relations. We are a hybrid. So, it will be difficult for me to kill the son of my brother. I will not do that but I will like to aspire like my brother. The Yoruba people want their own chief so that they can promote their culture, religion and tradition. We have not dropped the idea of a Yoruba Oba in Ilorin because that is the only way we can promote our culture, tradition and values. We are not Fulani but our kith and kin in the South-West see us as Hausa simply because we are being ruled by a Fulani emir.

How do you think you can achieve the agenda?

We can achieve the agenda by utilising the opportunity of the current democratic dispensation in the country. All what we need is to move for referendum and if the majority of the opinion favour a Yoruba Oba, no Jupiter can stop it.

What was the role played by the Oodua Peoples Congress to install an Oba in Ilorin?

When the late Governor Mohammed Lawal was there as the governor of Kwara State, we tried to use the opportunity since he was from the Afonja dynasty but he frustrated it because he wanted to satisfy the Fulani interest that installed him as governor. Despite his opposition, I still led the OPC on a mission to install a Yoruba Oba but it ended up a tactical error.

Will you approach Aare Gani Adams to make fresh moves for a Yoruba Oba?

Adam’s role is not to fight but to make peace and make sure that Yoruba people are not marginalised. He is to make sure that the Yoruba enjoy the good things of life. He feels that democracy has afforded everybody the opportunity to get education, become literates read and know his or her rights. So, Gani would want us to maintain decorum and take advantage of our population in Ilorin, to move peacefully, for the installation of a Yoruba Oba. He would not allow the Yoruba to be cheated and starved to death. He would also not want Yoruba to be marginalised. Adams will fight for that. So, a Yoruba man will not allow himself to be killed by demanding Oba through violent means. The Yoruba will fight back if you fight them but they will not attack anybody for any reason. We are not asking for another person’s land, we are simply seeking a better way to preserve our forefathers’ land. If you want to take our land by force, you must face the battle. That is why we are preparing for war not that we want to engage in war. If you sit down, the enemy will kidnap you. Adams’ function is to bring peace and unity to Yoruba land so that we will jointly fight for our rights, for our self-determination and other things.

When did you join the OPC?

Adams, Fredrick Fasehun and I formed the OPC at the Century Hotel (Isolo, Lagos) in 1994. Before then, I had formed the Afonja Descendant Union. I was the Kwara State governorship candidate for the Peoples Redemption Party in 1979.

Who did you want to install as the Oba then and where is he now?

We did not have a particular person in mind to install as the Oba but we have shortlisted all those who are qualified for the position. When it is time, we shall make their names public.

What is your opinion about the current herdsmen killings across the country?

What they are doing is completely wrong. The Fulani had completely taken the laws into their hands. It is because this government under President Muhammadu Buhari is weak. Buhari is a Fulani man. There was a time he went to the West (Oyo State) and he and Lam Adesina disagreed over a crisis between some herdsmen and farmers. Adesina asked Buhari why he, a former Head of State, was fighting a tribal war. Adesina reportedly said, “You are ethno-centric and you call yourself Head of State.” In the last election, people wanted to drop Buhari, that he would fight on the side of his people but some people said we should leave him; they wanted Buhari to fight corruption. But now, Buhari is fighting corruption halfway and fighting ethnic war in favour of the Fulani. That is why many of us are saying he should go. He is not fit. He has made people hungry; there is no petrol and people are suffering. He should go because he is making things worse. Buhari is giving a bad impression about Nigeria to the world. There can be no good government with Buhari. He should go and rest and recover well. Enough is enough.

What exactly do you think is responsible for the attacks by herdsmen?

You can attribute it to so many things. In the first place, herdsmen are restless. Farmland is not easy to come by. Government aided their activities. Government did not provide grazing land for them. They have been moving and roaming for a long time and their cows have been eaten people’s crops. They have become lazy to have their own farm and if there is no farm, the cattle will not see food to eat. Cattle are difficult to control. You may not easily direct them; they go astray anywhere. The Fulani are very emotional about their animals. When you touch their cows, you have touched their lives. The government has been careless and reckless for a long period. I think the government should be blamed because the herdsmen must find food for their cows. We want government to teach the Fulani people how to respect the rights of the farmers. Food is more important than cows. There are other animals that can be used to replace them. Food is very important and government must do something urgently to prevent the impending food crisis in the country. Some top government functionaries have been quoted to have described the killer herdsmen as Fulani from Niger and Chad but Buhari kept quiet. He has exhibited nepotism. He is very close to his people and he realised their aspirations but he does not address that of other tribes. The Tivs are good farmers but today they have been chased away from farms. By supporting the cows, Buhari is voting against the right of the people. What is happening is a deliberate action by the government to destroy a particular section of the country so that they will be in greater number and subdue us.

Why do you think herdsmen carry arms?

They carry arms because they are afraid of attacks. However, there is arms proliferation in Nigeria because of bad government. If there is good government, how can arms enter the country without the knowledge of the government? All these things are still a reflection of bad government. During the colonial time, were there no cows? Why did you not see a Fulani man fighting the farmers? It was because the government then was disciplined but the present government is not disciplined.

The government should mop up arms. Government officials at the borders must be disciplined. They must be trained to be patriotic.

As an OPC leader, where do you think they got the arms from?

They got them from nearby countries like Niger, Chad and other places. Sometimes, trailers and big cars, imported by big men, carry ammunition.

How do you think the government can stop the violent killings by the Fulani?

Buhari has not called the stakeholders and address them. I was lucky to be one of the leaders of the Myetti Allah Cattle Breeders Association of Nigeria. I was their secretary in Kwara State and the Miyetti Allah leader in Afon, Alhaji Gambo, was my friend. We formed the group for the benefit of both the farmers and the herdsmen. We never struggled for them to be fighting farmers.

The government of the All Progressives Congress under Buhari is not performing. I am an APC stalwart but I believe in discipline. Buhari’s government is the worst I have ever seen in my life. We want Buhari to go. He is weak and being controlled by a cabal that is using his government to their own advantage. We need radical and new set of people who are faultless and have no skeleton in their cupboards, who can talk and people will follow them. Not the current crops of politicians, full of questionable characters.

Thoughts?

Moved to Nairaland/General/Politics

I found this Website as I was innocently strolling through the internet

https://imgur.com/r/paradoxplaza/lvwaG

If you click on this page https://dhsprogram.com/What-We-Do/Survey-Process.cfm and follow the links under "Methodology" you will find more information on how the survey was carried out.

What I will say so far is this.

1) A regular census has forms sent to each household and gives household representatives a chance to mark up the number of people living there. This is not that. This is an effort to collect an informed opinion on health matters representative of every section of the country using select representatives, particularly emphasizing on rural representation so their contribution is not left out.

2) If the Enumeration Area Demarcations used in 2006 did not account for higher population densities in areas like Lagos and Kano and the Clusters are based off them, then we have another blind side to the large amount of people in the cities.

3) If the North has more LGAs than the South and the Clusters are based off LGAs and geography, then we have another discrepancy... IF.

4) The fluctuation between the results from the 2003 Health report to the 2008 Health report to the 2013 Health report kind of imply that these numbers will change according to who gets access to these surveys during the next DHS survey which will happen every 5 years.

5) There is one going on this year, as can be read about here: https://www.von.gov.ng/nigeria-commences-2018-nigeria-demographic-health-survey/ and they have adjusted the Clusters to have higher representation in Lagos and Kano, which was not representative of the 2013 Health Survey.
See where it says "The sample size for the 2018 NDHS consists of a total of 1,400 clusters (small geographically defined areas) with each state and FCT having 37 clusters with the exception of Lagos and Kano States which have 53clusters respectively."

6) The 2006 census seems like it is still the most official Nigerian claim to census results, considering that the CIA winged it and used Health survey numbers for this one.

All I can figure out so far is this:

From said 2013 report, it says

"With respect to ethnicity, 28 percent of women and 27 percent of men are Hausa, while 15 percent
of women and 13 percent of men belong to the Igbo ethnic group. Fourteen percent each of women and
men identified themselves as Yoruba. The Fulani ethnic group constitutes only 7 percent of women and 6
percent of men. There are more than 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, but most comprise only small numbers.
For instance, the Ibibio, Ijaw, Kanuri, and Tiv ethnic groups each account for only 2 percent of the
population."

Other reports for previous years can be found here:

https://dhsprogram.com/What-We-Do/survey-search.cfm?pgtype=main&SrvyTp=country

From the 2008 report, we have

"The ethnic composition of the sample indicates that Hausa (22 percent), Yoruba (18 percent),
and Igbo (16 percent) are the major ethnic groups in Nigeria. Other ethnic groups constitute about 44
percent of the total sample, underscoring the multiplicity of ethnic groups in Nigeria"


From the 2003 report, we have

Hausa: 25 -27
Igbo: 13.4 - 13.6
Yoruba: 11.4 - 12


Keep in mind, these are not census results. They are only reports on the sample size having access to the Health Survey which is conducted every 5 years by the US DHA in many countries all over the world.

Now, after a little work to find out how representative the sample size is of the population, I found this at http://microdata.worldbank.org/index.php/catalog/2014/sampling:

"Sample Design
The sample for the 2013 NDHS was nationally representative and covered the entire population residing in non-institutional dwelling units in the country. The survey used as a sampling frame the list of enumeration areas (EAs) prepared for the 2006 Population Census of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, provided by the National Population Commission. The sample was designed to provide population and health indicator estimates at the national, zonal, and state levels. The sample design allowed for specific indicators to be calculated for each of the six zones, 36 states, and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.

Administratively, Nigeria is divided into states. Each state is subdivided into local government areas (LGAs), and each LGA is divided into localities. In addition to these administrative units, during the 2006 population census, each locality was subdivided into census enumeration areas. The primary sampling unit (PSU), referred to as a cluster in the 2013 NDHS, is defined on the basis of EAs from the 2006 EA census frame. The 2013 NDHS sample was selected using a stratified three-stage cluster design consisting of 904 clusters, 372 in urban areas and 532 in rural areas. A representative sample of 40,680 households was selected for the survey, with a minimum target of 943 completed interviews per state.

A complete listing of households and a mapping exercise were carried out for each cluster from December 2012 to January 2013, with the resulting lists of households serving as the sampling frame for the selection of households. All regular households were listed. The NPC listing enumerators were trained to use Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers to calculate the coordinates of the 2013 NDHS sample clusters.

A fixed sample take of 45 households were selected per cluster. All women age 15-49 who were either permanent residents of the households in the 2013 NDHS sample or visitors present in the households on the night before the survey were eligible to be interviewed. In a subsample of half of the households, all men age 15-49 who were either permanent residents of the households in the sample or visitors present in the households on the night before the survey were eligible to be interviewed. Also, a subsample of one eligible woman in each household was randomly selected to be asked additional questions regarding domestic violence.

For further details on sample size and design, see Appendix B of the final report."

A few things come up here... more clusters are representative rural areas as opposed to urban areas. Now, I have to admit, I have not been able to find what the Enumaration Areas in 2006 were. If someone can locate that, that would be cool...


I will continue this later because I have a life

I finally got a response from the CIA.

Using their Web Form at https://www.cia.gov/contact-cia# I asked for a report on their methodology.

This is the response generated:


"Thank you for your interest in The World Factbook (WFB). The WFB’s breakdown of Nigeria’s ethnic groups comes from the Nigeria Demographic and Health Survey 2013, published in June 2014:



https://dhsprogram.com/publications/publication-FR293-DHS-Final-Reports.cfm"



The information is attainable here: https://dhsprogram.com/publications/publication-FR293-DHS-Final-Reports.cfm


I'm going to need some of you savvy Nairalanders to go through this.. Let me know when you draw conclusions lol

alizma:
by tomorrow I will send you an excell example of what happened but before then, I want you to ponder over this, an AVERAGE family from other-tribe is
made up of 6 members(father, mother and 4 children) while and AVERAGE family from Hause or Fulani is made up of 10member. if you agreed, at least 80% to this assumption, we can at this point conclude that while other tribe grow their population arithmetically, the northerners had grown theirs geometrically. by tomorrow you will have the data analysis of this theory.

Eagerly waiting..

SultanYoung:
bro abeg carry brain put for your head and stop thinking like a nigerian, americans are the most realistic set of bieng around the worl d when it come to reaserch not to talk of C.IA or do you thinks they are like nigerian police or dss that commom on folding a simple crime they cant

This is nonesene. They need to show their methodology. I've been unable to retrieve it so far.

blantyre:
Fulani did not conquer hausa per se. It was not an ethnic but religious war. Yes the religious leaders were mostly fulanis and after the war, they being the commanders found themselves in positions of authority. So get the facts right, it wasn't an all out Fulani vs Hausa war. We in the north don't see it from that prism

It was a religious war.

It is an ethnic rule.