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The real recommendation above is ok, thank you. And those teeth above were created by God anyway. I see that His work (like the Bible too) is still not good enough for you

Seriously though, you people lose face when you run. You won't believe how people are writing many of us for more clarity on things we write here because it shakes their trust in CE to see you run. It was one person who pointed out Jo's disappearances made him start to wonder. Please dstay around and answer so your coffins can be nailed shut.

BTW, babies should know more than you do. Mr yaks yaps is obviously retarded to make you so shallow

For P R E S I D E N T ?    Only me? Thank you - I see you're smitten with me to think that for me (probably because of the money you'd want if I got elected). But no chance - I wouldn't allow my neighbors dog date you.  And you even know yourself that Nigeria will become better under people like me? Wow, I am blessed.

Tell us why you're not campaigning that for guyman Chris? Obviously, you know he will eat Nigeria into the ground. Thanks sha

@Jo:

Why don't you answer all the questions yourself & your team have been running from since we chased you from Donnie's thread? Seems you're finally seeing the light for the first time and it is shaking your beliefs. Nowadays, you run away from threads. ole, koleja! Oole, ninu ireke

Bold words truly tell the tale.

aletheia:
^^Is this an attempt at sounding patronizing, woman? What has pocket money got to do with the discourse at hand? Must your thoughts always decline to "money matters"?

Paul in his clear warning:
But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. (1 Timothy 6:9-10)

When you read the commandclem thread; you will see this scenario playing out in the life of your fellow acolyte fyneguy. You will do well to take heed to yourself and ponder on these words:

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and unclothed: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy unclothedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. (Revelation 3:17-18)

Soon. . .very soon, the corruption in your Chris' Embassy will so publicly exposed that even your countervailing cognitive dissonance will crumble in the face of the unassailable light.

I fear that as she is currently an illiterate, she'll miss the import of your words,  Words "bigger" than amazingly cause them to applaud at CE PLC. "countervailing cognitive dissonance" will cause her a migraine. Idiotic, vacuous people who refuse to read truth themselves. And this particular person takes the cake.

^^^

Truly sad!!

If only you knew what/where school is and whom you speak to? You CE paupers have this thing that always amazes me - you get a couple of Mill (usually from your preferred businesses - theft, fraud, prostitution etc), believe you've "arrived", start to live big (on 2 mill ) and forget your place. Try do some research about people here. But then, your education does not avail you such capability, does it?

Mabell,

see yourself  

Why don't you just say you're afraid they won't stand up to true scrutiny and chris'll be exposed again. Anyway, It should be obvious to you that you are daft. Shey you said I don't have electricity abi?

Yes, I agree I don't have electricity - my laptop and your own are plugged into chris oyaks jeri curls. That is how we power things around here. Or we plug appliances into the damage CE members make when they defraud people. Daftee, you are a blight on posting rights on the internet and nobody has a right to be as vapid as you are.

Abi you want to send your "holy" thugs here?   Search well - you'll find me but bring your memorials along.

@mabell:

found your picture online - do you want to see it? No wonder you stick to CE - only them can force a "husband" on you!

Azibalua:
Noooooooooo
You said on some occasions not one message.
That's what you said
Why are you always contradicting yourself
You need to go back to kindergarten and learn the rudiments of elementary English
No,sorry I just remember you grew up in the village
Eewo no kindergarten
Chei

slowpoke!

I defended him when Ganjaseed said only chris yaks does miracles in CE and wondered if the others were not allowed. The idea was as if it was yaks stopping them. I SAID if they didn't have enough faith and he was the only one with faith, no one could blame him. THAT WAS ONE DEFENSE.

I defended him when someone said he was in a cult and showed some pictures of him in some poses as evidence. I SAID that was not enough evidence and I don't think the man is a cultist. THAT WAS ANOTHER DEFENSE.

ON YOUR LIE HERE, WHAT I SAID WAS I have been known to defend him. Exactly what I have shown above. Go back and read - I didn't say I found other good messages on occasions.

If you are a Christian, you owe me an apology. But then we ALL know the truth, don't we? Go plead for forgiveness, Madam Sinner

And how many people do you think know or have come across your local champion? Is it because each of you in his advertising team has 20 usernames here that you think you have reach?

Plus what you think is the realm of the spirit is fantasy. You WISH you knew!

^^

WOW! Aletheia back on NL? Great, absolutely great - where have you been? Totally uplifting to read from you again even if its just a sentence about our lost misguided friends.

Well, at least OP is using his brains here not regurgitating pastor chris

@Azibalua:

As we keep saying, you people are misguided deluded brainless goons.

I see one message and say its the first time I see some sense and you move away to ask people to take a cue from that? Your brains have ceded victory to the wind and its what you sit on that thinks for you, Do YOU realise its one message out of thousands. So people should be happy that a pastor preached one reasonable message in a thousand? Fine - 0.1% for your pastor. Which means he's a total failure. Maybe that's because he has deep-fried his brains.

Eewu moronic talk

^^ All of this is just flatulence.

Rather than listing nice sounding topics, post the messages here. I promise to read ALL & if they make sense to me, I'll say so. And if I disagree, I will say so.

My point remains simple - your pastor can be wrong so I (and you) should not trust him 100%. We should NOT call him father or teacher. Only the HS teaches that makes us TRULY understand. The Bible has clarified - EVERY MAN IS A LIAR AND ONLY GOD IS TRUE. Jesus Himself went as far as asking why some called Him good. That was the Lord Himself speaking to show men that flesh is corruptible. He (Jesus) said only GOD IS good. If you disregard His Words OR the Bible, the Word (not me) says you have not the True Love of God in you and you make your pastor God by saying he is infallible.

Anyway, whether you say it or not, he is not God or a god or divine. The people Psalms called "gods" were not Christians and you believe them inferior to you so don't bring that. If your inferiors (non Christians shey) were gods, then what's special in anyone calling themselves "gods"? Like those jew judges, muslims, atheists, hindus are therefore gods too. Every goat you see is a "god" abeg - it lords it over the grass it eats.

My Bible says let ALL men be liars and that any other god aside Him who created the Heavens is false. Point is - do YOU agree with the Bible?

Bring your messages. I am here waiting

@Azibubu love:

Your people here will tell you I always like to hear good things about people and there are threads on NL where I have defended and supported Mr oyakilome. I was pleasantly surprised by the words above and I expressed my delight. If I see another, I will do same. If he says/spouts rubbish, I will say so.

So please copy those "messages" and paste them on this thread. If fine, FINE! And I will say so. If not, SAD! And I will say so.

He is NOT my God so he can be wrong. Which is where me and you differ - as far as you are concerned, he can't be wrong. But the Bible clarifies that and says ONLY GOD IS TRUE and let ALL men be liars (sinners). I believe what the Bible says. [b]Do YOU? [/b] do you believe Oyaks is NOT always right? Do you believe he can sin? Do you believe the Bible? Or do you believe he is always right and so, the Bible was lying? Think!

If yes, show me where you ever wondered/criticized/saw anything Oyaks did as wrong (a lie). Then we will know you believe the Bible.

Think carefully about the above. Understanding will show you The Truth, The Way and The Life

^^^ Something is definitely worrying you.

I am blinded by my belief BUT I said the above - explain then:- has my belief changed now or the tone of this particular message is different?

THINK ! ! ! Your brain is meant for thought.

Meanwhile, go and kneel down in the corner nearest to you.

nuclearboy:
But Lysaa[b] is supposedly a "born-again"[/b] Christian, ain't it?

He/She/It has confessed Christ according to the dictates and doctrines of Christ Embassy Church - and so is a god, a conqueror, a winner.

Since he/she/it is now able to say "labrasakada sihibobo kasal", he/she/it is NOT a sinner
Sinner ke? Lai lai - Even when he/she/it smokes Ganja
Sinner ke? Lai lai - Even when he/she/it commits immorality

As long as she/he/it "submits" to pastor chris
As long as she/he/it pays tithes
As long as she/he/it brings offer 7, 8 & 25
As long as she/he/it pays first fruit every year
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, as long as she/he/it defends Pastor Chris[b]t[/b] blindly

[size=13pt]Anyways, I hope she was joking[/size]. If not, CEC has added Institutionalized Indian hemp to "fraud", "theft", "immorality" be that!

Trying to visit Yookos.com but it keeps saying "cannot find server". Please let me know when its up so I can see for myself.

^^ I wondered as you can see above.

But a question - a "god" of light playing "Igbo smoking" jokes? Where does light and darkness meet? Except if light is actually faking

Interesting!

This is the 1st totally on-point message I've seen from author. And best of all, money is not mentioned here.

Truly mature

But Lysaa[b] is supposedly a "born-again"[/b] Christian, ain't it?

He/She/It has confessed Christ according to the dictates and doctrines of Christ Embassy Church - and so is a god, a conqueror, a winner.

Since he/she/it is now able to say "labrasakada sihibobo kasal", he/she/it is NOT a sinner
Sinner ke? Lai lai - Even when he/she/it smokes Ganja
Sinner ke? Lai lai - Even when he/she/it commits immorality

As long as she/he/it "submits" to pastor chris
As long as she/he/it pays tithes
As long as she/he/it brings offer 7, 8 & 25
As long as she/he/it pays first fruit every year
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, as long as she/he/it defends Pastor Chris[b]t[/b] blindly

Anyways, I hope she was joking. If not, CEC has added Institutionalized Indian hemp to "fraud", "theft", "immorality" be that!

Trying to visit Yookos.com but it keeps saying "cannot find server". Please let me know when its up so I can see for myself.

@Kunle:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-526272.0.html

By the time you get to the end, you will have laughed so hard you will be angry at fyneguy for making your face ache. Check out the letterhead for Mobil Producing and the amounts they want to collect and why. I almost burst my gut.

These are lazy people who are not interested in work, just an easy score. Sadly, they want to bring Gods' Name into it.

Be sure to check the letter from "HIS EFFICIENCY, KING PROFESSOR C.J.A. UWEMEDIMO, COMMANDER OF THE WEALTH OF THE OCEANS, AFRICA ICON OF OUR GENERATION, ETC ETC. I'm serious about those titles - just check the signatory of the  letter in post #27.

No wonder Yaks also has a Ph.D. That is even small compared to this one that fyneguy is selling here. His attempt to rebute texazzpete in post #39 is standard CE language - "we insist we are right no matter what the truth or evidence is".

^^ Yep, and then they charge 1,000 Naira entry fee per head

Yet true godliness with contentment is itself great wealth.After all, we brought nothing with us when we came into the world, and we can't take anything with us when we leave it.So if we have enough food and clothing, let us be content.But[b] people who long to be rich fall into temptation and are trapped by many foolish and harmful desires that plunge them into ruin and destruction[/b].For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.But you, Timothy, are a man of God; so run from all these evil things. Pursue righteousness and a godly life, along with faith, love, perseverance, and gentleness. 1 Timothy 6 : 6 -12

1st bolded DEFINES what "great wealth" means ACCORDING TO THE NEW TESTAMENT  OF THE BIBLE. Any other definition is criminal and NOT of God.

2nd bolded tells us why so many people from CEC PLC have been arrested for fraud, theft and why they are known for immorality etc. It also reveals the difference between the object of this letter (Timothy) and our modern day Simon Magus (Yaks Yaps) -

The Bible's Timothy          Yaks Yaps Magus
chases right/truth                arranges miracles
seeks God                          follows Mammon
Loves                                if his thugs catch you, ehn
Gentleness                         greedy grasping
Patience in God                   Wants the world

[U] TRUE PROSPERITY[/U]
This pernicious notion is disproved, of course, merely by the example of Paul the apostle, a far more exemplary Christian than any of these latter-day false teachers, yet a man whose earnest prayer for healing of his "thorn in the flesh" was denied, and who died in poverty and martyrdom in a Roman dungeon. Modern examples could also be cited in great numbers—blind Fanny Crosby and her wonderful hymns, for example, or those who have given their lives in sacrificial service on a thousand mission fields.

And this brilliant response cuts to the heart of the matter.

Interesting that its only ONE cult church representing the lie here whist ALL others of other denominations can see clearly though having different doctrines that this is a lie from the pit of evil.

[b]We were as dogs before but BECAME HEIRS. That is wealth because we WILL inherit and OWN ALL things. Wealth is not having 100 million in your account. [/b]Cecilia Ibru had much more than that. Who has ears will hear

^^

Vain, perverts, prostitutes, cowards, lazy-people, thieves, fraudsters, liars, idolaters claiming lies as promises using twisted scripture.

The Blind calling the sighted dim-eyed!

But your entire marketing team, full of sense are in pain, agitated and responding nonstop to NO sense?

Which would mean you're either insane or bothered else why bother? which is it?

@Kunle:

have you seen the commandclem thread? go there and laugh your head off - they are "bribing" God in hopes of a 239 billion DOLLAR miracle. [b]That is their wealth - scams, fraud, easy-money, prostitution, outright 419 [/b]and of course, they are headed by chairman himself - Monsignor chris yaks Ph.d (200 dollar purchase), Ms.e (master of stealing enterprises).

Rather than work, build and prosper, they want it all today and wish to co-empt God into it with them. So they keep jumping without looking hoping they will score big. They keep falling and trying again because they enter debt, have made promises and plans but the debt grows bigger. But CEC PLC has arranged marriage, friends etc so its difficult to walk out and so, they keep hoping.

But the Ogas have money (not prosperity) sha - which doesn't profit them anyway. Which is why even with the noise made about them, Pastors Adeboye or Kumuyi can come out, smile, talk to the world and remain celebrated. Does oga chris have the nerve -

[1] nerve to face independent financial query
[2] nerve to have his "miracles" verified independently
[3] nerve to face almost any Christian on NL in a debate about the rubbish he teaches or is it not that ignorant donkey teaching that people live inside Abrahams' b-reasts when they leave this world?

 Top to bottom, this people are a general embarrassment to decency talk less of Christianity. How does a PROSPEROUS person become a pariah that dares not come out? At least we see other pastors relate to others. This one lives inside his cult and is a prisoner of his own greed and ignorance.

Azibalua:
It's not a question if Christians can be rich or not, they are rich SPIRITUALLY, their riches cannot be quantified SPIRITUALLY, it's just that most are still walking in ignorance
It's like a king not knowing that he owns the whole kingdom (JESUS KNEW HIS KINGDOM WAS NOT BASED ON FLESH) yet he keeps on begging from his servants (WHO CHASE THE WORLD AND HAVE THEIR TREASURE THERE)

^^ Corrected to show some depth rather than vacuous shallowness.

If this were not so, the Apostle Paul wouldn't wonder at the usefulness of Christianity IF HE WERE TO SUFFER HERE and then have NO HOPE in heaven. Seeing as it is words that he wrote that are being misquoted and bandied about now, we ought to ask ourselves a question - Paul worked for his living. Even though he planted most churches and was apostle to the gentiles, why wasn't his life like that of say, chris oyakilome? How many times were his miracles doubted? How many acolytes did he possess. Where does anyone find those he preached to holding him in same regard they hold God? Where does anyone find him preaching money, naira, dollars and cash?

Government agents brought their sick to Christ, Peter and Paul. Governments are TODAY saying if you show a purported miracle, we will verify it and our chairmen are canceling their "shows". Are they following the Christ who we ought emulate by using our wealth for the poor? Are they following the Rock on which Christ built His Church (called out ones NOT conformist ones) who said "Silver and Gold I have not" or are they actually following another master - ergo Satan

As OP said, God is about the SPIRITUAL. He does bless people but usually for the purpose of helping others and being a blessing rather than becoming oppressors or going about in convoys of cars at the expense of the poor.

False teachers are about money, temporal power and world domination (which interestingly is the Biblical description of the Anti-Christ) as we see some people here "conquering the WORLD", "winning the WORLD". They always want the WORLD not God's Elect Ones.

Their fruits bear them witness - in life and even on this thread. Interestingly, most are paupers in real life living off debts and on hope (like the Commandclem thread where they reign wishing to reap where they didn't sow and are praying Mobil gives them 239 BILLION DOLLARS). Lazy lowlifes looking for handouts and hoping they can bribe God to force His Hand

^^ Both sides have presented their case.

Those who have ears will hear. The children of God will follow God because He doesn't lose His Own. The children of belial will not hear and do not matter anyway.

^ See barrage of pain. See expressions of frustration at seeing false walls crumble.

Truth is really painful BUT it must be said. Christians can be rich but their primary blessing is SPIRITUAL

^^^ Itchy ears is your problem as you have hinged your love for money on a false premise and so are desperate to hold on to your false hope of a window opening & Naira pouring down.

Better go and find work rather than wishes - if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Notice your Oga is more sincere - he saw and is reasoning it out first.

Let him who has ears hear

Okay - let me use a God favored friend's style.

Can you, yommuk, pay a tithe of 40%? NO, because a tithe is 10%. But you can GIVE 40%, right?

In you, you have a right heart and thus, you see the words as just semantics since you won't take whats not yours. But these people are using your good intentions to support their own evil intentions.

True Christians who are not limited to milk understand that because of the Sacrifice of Christ, we who Christ Himself likened to children of dogs became Children of God through adoption. Paul said now can we call out "Father". Just now - because of that sacrifice!

That is the "Rich" we became - that we can come before the Throne of the Almighty having legal right unlike prior to the Sacrifice when we were as it were, unknown poor dogs far away from grace to the point of not being seen.

The poverty Christ assumed was that of debt - He assumed and had to pay the price of sin when He took upon Himself our sins. What a debt?

How difficult is this to understand? Christ became a sin debtor so we could become Grace creditors.

What manner of Bible scholarship does a pastor possess when everything he sees/says/thinks/does is tinged with Naira and Kobo? Does ignorance of the above fact not prove these people are shallow lying pretenders to Christianity? Or that they at best carry about undeveloped teeth and need a great deal of teaching themselves?

HOW DIFFICULT IS THE ABOVE?

^^ BECAUSE of those who will twist your words as you can see they already did above, why not simply say "GIVING IS MANDATORY"?

That clears the air and you will see Kunle/Zikky have NO problems with that. It is the traders in God's Temple that will complain at that