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Pastor AIO:
Talking to ya-sef? Oh I see: '[size=14pt]My name is legion[/size] for we are many'.


I always knew that the best thing for the truth of this matter is for CEC members to come to this forum be very active. It would have been better for them if they had stayed away, but like someone said above it must have been the holy spirit that pushed them to be posting. The result is that their heart has been exposed.

Is Pastor saying the other "pastor" inherited the Gadarene hordes?

[size=3pt]Some of them do sound like demons though - mabell (no decency), newmi (wants to crush everyone like a trailer), fyneguy (419), azimouth (boastful yet no IQ)[/size]

Seriously though, the more active they are, the better - their fruit shows and Mehnnnnnnn, Oyaks smells bad.

How much did Jesus pay for the chartered "luxury" yachts and ships? Was it not simply because of the press of the crowd & to afford the crowds on the shore a panoramic view of Him that He used such?

How does that compare with a request for a private jet? Is the "MOG" preaching to eagles or vultures?

This dude; you are going too far with these deliberate errors!

I like Frosbel's definition above - The Lord God Almighty, Joe Agbaje's personal Bingo Machine!

What's sad is they refuse to see it the way they portray it

@Joagbaje:

NOBODY has to my understanding EVER said on NL that prosperity is evil or of Satan. What we say is that FOR THE CHRISTIAN & just like Christ, this world is NOT his thrust, target or kingdom. Jesus made it clear that a fortune KEPT on earth KEEPS your heart on earth.

It may interest you to find out who some of the people you argue against are in real life. Some are multi-millionaires who see all their possessions as belonging to the Gospel and thus these possessions hold NO lasting attraction for them.

You keep making noise about money, getting more, reigning on earth, living it big and whoever reads you sees your target as those possessions. Yet your "supposed" Lord AND EVERYONE we see that followed Him never for once targeted these things. Some NT people must have been wealthy (Ananias and wife at least owned property), yet there is NO mention or dwelling on of their riches or earthly possessions. Why do you suppose that is so? Because it is the least consideration for a true Christian. The LEAST. Eat, drink, sleep and live for Christ. Finish! Paul looked forward to his reward IN Heaven. Christ said this world and its cares were NOT His concern. Stephen did not care for this life. That is why you have no scriptural support and thus have to go back to Abraham who was a very rich man even when his name was Abram i.e. before the promise God made to him. Or would you say it was only after God called him that he became rich? So how can you use that as scriptural support yet look yourself in the mirror?

Paul was blessed. It did not manifest as physical wealth as you erroneously posted above. Jesus was/is blessing Himself - where did he build His mansions? Was Timothy cursed? Or John that got him banned to Patmos? Why is it that EVERYONE that we KNOW was blessed of God according to the scripture not manifested as you say "physically"? Why is their own example not good enough for you?

Its no longer funny or acceptable to lie - it always finds us out as you know. Why not just teach people the sincere truth - work and if God wills it and has purpose for it, you'll become wealthy. But your target is not money, a white house, 200 suits and 4 SUVs. The Christians target is Heaven just like it was for those we claim we follow

^^

Satan (your father) cursed me, But his counsel does not stand.

God cursed you, And His Counsel stands.

Thought you'd fallen off an Okada When we didn't see you again. Apparently, you've found some new customers who are giving you enough to pay cybercafe time. Retard!

Events after this thread was created have answered the question succinctly.

The person who is in the best position to bless you is Dr Albert Odulele. If you have no access to him, Revd King is the next best. And of course, if you need anointing for lying, we all know where to go to for that

Joagbaje NEVER ceases to amaze with his theatrics - what manner of thought process do you have that cannot be satisfied by simple truth.

Why can you not find example in the Apostle to the gentiles for your wealth assertions? Or in Peter? Or any New Testament Christian for that matter? Or in Christ Himself who not only said He had no place to lay His Head but also that His Kingdom is NOT of this world. Who amongst these in the NT is your model?

You go back to the days of Abraham - who was never a Christian, or "god" as you claim, who wielded swords & went to war, had children from different women etc and make him your role model ONLY for wealth.

What do you follow - Christ or Abraham? And what makes you different from Christ's Apostles which stopped them from selectivity when it came to money matters?

oh, okay. Thanks!

I wonder which is more insane - the dude asking for money or the one that gives him SUCH money?

I have a poor connection right now. Someone, please tell what is shown in the video

^^ Society sees these bastards as representative of Christianity but on NL, we are now showing them for what they are. Bring any of such to light and see if we kowtow to their dastardly antics

@Kunle:

What this chap needs to change is his life. If he changes his user-name, everyone will recognize the new one in a few days with his motives and words.

I remember Christs Words about salt losing its taste - it will be thrown away

I thought Jo asked the Mods to delete the thread under discussion and they did so

You keep saying people made your ID public. Haba - what is your username? If you hear femiwilliams, what will you say is the person's name? "Robson Bates"? or what? Or was it Enigma that gave you the username you use?

But lets even assume all the things you claim happened, Jo.

Can you show us from Scripture when a Servant of God (Apostle, teacher, whatever from the NT) decided to lie, misrepresent facts and twist reality to support himself? Name him so such a person then becomes your role-model before us!

Why are WE (babes with milk teeth or outright unbelievers as you call us) not doing same to our own advantage? KunleOshob has had personal threats to his life (most probably from CE thugs like the "rich" okada champion) - why didn't he hide behind other IDs to support himself? What guarantee does he have in Christ that makes him fearless but which Pastor Joe does not have that made him "collect" "azhokem" from a friend afraid for his life? Who as ever threatened you like they did Kunle? What does that say about the trust you have in the God you claim to serve, Mr Pastor?

@Joagbaje:

I hear all you have said!

We can say that Paul said "All is lawful but not all is expedient" and use that to justify anything we wish. Somethings you said here show you realize some of these things were wrong and would pass a wrong message about Christianity so just make amends. The "goats" "supporting" you are your enemies - just appealing to base pride and arrogance in you as ALL of us have but are supposed to "kill" for God's sake. True brothers always leave a meeting "fighting" because they tell selves the truth.

My own is just that you really truly stand aright with God. And as I've said before, you have a gift in painting - you might be surprised you'll earn far more with that thing in you that you think is small. And keep your integrity and self-worth too.

Even me with the aversion YOU THINK I HAVE FOR YOU has a number of your paintings that I downloaded - great stuff that God is using to prick your own conscience whenever you see them. Such gifts should not be neglected and for scriptural manipulation of all things. The One who gave you such has great plans for you except if you did NOT paint those things

God be with you & the Holy Spirit witness I make that prayer sincerely. It however does not mean I will not state the truth if I see error being presented. It just means I honestly truly wish you well ACCORDING to God's Will.

@newmi:

go sit on a ceremonial sword -sideways. or jump on the nearest Okada to go eat at the cheapest buka as you are wont to do

@Jo:

Finally - One last thing which is really sad and shows how truthful/otherwise you are --> you say a friend gave you the 'ID'. But every user-name on NL is tied to the owners email address. Are you then telling the world that your friend also gave you his private email address? When, brother, will the lies stop? Is this the essence of Christianity? For pride to compel lying, deceit and manipulation? For unbelievers to read, shake their heads and say we are deluded liars and thus must be serving a lying God?

I wonder where Mazaje is. Why should unbelievers follow the God of liars?

The above from Kunleoshob is so SO apt.

You told us your name
You informed us of your "job" and how successful you are. Will people not ask/question/investigate?
You over and over made us know the things that were happening in your life. How you murdered the "Devourer" and control "limitless" wealth!
You attack Kunle by saying he's a teacher (if only you knew  ). But anyone saying things about you is wrong and wicked.
You attack us saying we are poor, depraved, unbelievers or babies (terrible lies not worthy of any Christian) etc BUT you must not be attacked
How recently did you boast about your 10 million contract and giving out a 2010 Prado?

But you want privacy?

You are a bundle of contradictions and its like preaching a sermon saying "do what I ask you to do BUT I WILL DO WHATEVER I FEEL LIKE DOING".

Please, look in the mirror !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't want to continue on this disgraceful thread but well,, , ,

@Joagbaje:

Look at what your "supporters" are saying - do you need enemies if your friends are pushing you thus? Anyway, may I write you privately through your email? Contrary to what you feel anyway, I doubt anybody here has anything personal against you or Chris Oyakilome. But some things you say/write are what cause rancor towards you. See Enigma also above showing he has nothing personal against you and asking for proof if he did. When I investigated you, it was only because I wondered how you could say the things you did. Finding out your main income was from Church made it understandable. But none of us is perfect so we cannot judge "absolutely" - we can only say "oh, so this is why this person says these things".

Whist you are defending yourself here, some things you have stated here show your humanity and that you remain a (hopefully) viable project in God's Hands. It would have just been nice if you got your people to keep quiet - what they are saying by "its not new" and "its okay to deceive by using multiple IDs" is that it is okay for Christians to lie. I wonder how non-believers see such words. Please try - remove yourself from the situation and assess all the posts here as a neutral observer and you will get why many people seem to "fight"  against you.

Let it be on record though - nuclearboy has NOTHING against you as a person. It is what you project that makes you a target and here, you have explained the truth- it can put you in trouble and nobody wants problems for you. But there are honest God-fearing ways to finding a solution rather than what you projected in the past on NL

MORE THOUGHTS

I remember that Tudor once caught me at the Auto section discussing a vehicle and started calling me big boy and said I must be making my pastor very rich. That day, I thought to create an alternate user-name but no, I didn't. What was I to be ashamed of? I have met over 200 Nairaland members due to business/other reasons and knew that 2 of them belonged to CEC when I met them. Interestingly, both stopped posting here after we met. Even with the potential risk of being known to people who support pastor chris to the point of insanity, I decided it was not necessary to hide behind another ID - why? God is in control. I have faced the most rabid Muslims on this forum and traded insults with them yet it is a sign of little trust in the God I name myself after if I hide.

Yet here is a MOG who says it is a risk for him to be known. A MOG who pretends to be different people so he can look better in the eyes of man. Who votes for himself so he can win a title that means NOTHING. A MOG who is searching for the approval of man! Like who? Is it Jesus that left you this example? Or Paul? Or Peter? Or James (your baby food Apostle)? Or Abraham? Or Israel? Wonderful. I feel like shedding tears as I consider how proud, vain, shallow and empty this guy must be to disregard God and CHEAT to win on nairaland. Is NL your dream or Heaven?

What more is there to be said especially knowing that his team will soon come here and scatter the thread with posts that offer nothing except insolence and further manifestations of dead consciences. Na wah O. Na real wa wa WA!

Yet look at the self righteous post #2 (third post) attempting to justify greed and to manipulate God's Word to even more personal gain. FRUIT, FRUIT , FRUIT - It always tells the type of plant. I wonder what this says about pastor chris to his followers if his bayelsa state pastor is what we see here

Religious section poster of the year - by voting for himself using multiple IDs & getting others to do same

A pastor praising himself as another person and asking himself questions

A true MOG! chairman Yaks must be proud of you - see beautiful fruit worthy of emulation by "Christians".

Mba (No) Brains:

And it is dry worthless firewood that people burn which is why your idol is always on the flames. You'll note trees like Adeboye are not usually considered as firewood.

^ "my father's name"? This dude is just proving his brainlessness.

Let me give you names - Adolf Hitler, Attila the Hun, Idi Amin and lest I forget your own father - Lawrence Anini. All famous JUST as your desire is just for a known name.

I'm sure you will love your Yaks inclusion into their ranks, right? At least they have names.

And again this just shows the mindset you people have - shallow myopic and brainless.

Truly suited for the brainwashing you've had which SHOWS in your inability to respond once. Messages get through your thick head very very slowly. Pele, slow brain

 Time to go do something better than responding to a wasted life.

Cheers.

What's this above? "wasted brains" is feeling funky and practicing grammar? Okoro binoko? Trust a Yaks follower to insult family & call people " fools" - lack of home training is so obvious in you, dude and so are the values you people imbibe from ole jeri'curls - "fool" comes from his dictionary, ehn? Folly is you. You only prove you don't use your head with your response - what have you said? Where is your defense, scriptural or existential for the rubbish above? You just flailed away stupidly & emotionally showing your lack of breeding and rabid amorality.

Better leave the cybercafe before EFCC picks you up - Yaks prayers will not get you a mugun today. Go find a construction site and help offload cement. Since your brain has atrophied, you might at least use your muscles

^^ Another wasted brain!

You people think success is measured in numbers and cash? So Abacha was a success, Ehn? And CNN is godly since they too have billions of viewers, right?

You're all a travesty of existence

@Enigma:

In defense of Joagbaje, you seem to forget that God REQUIRES people who wish to eat to work. Apostles like Peter fished. Paul made Tents. Even Christ was a Carpenter. BUT lazy people don't like to work and Oyakilome gave Jo an easy way out - "kiss my bleached jeri-curled bottom always and I'll give you a percentage of returns".

Since Jo's treasure is his tummy, Oyaks pays him more than God ergo his choice of Oyaks. But God has this funny thing - Holiness is never enough for someone searching for it. And so it is with money - it never satisfies those who worship it. Plus there is a day of reckoning and when that day comes, all the money will disappear (here on earth) and hunger will take over. At that point, lazy idol-worshiping manipulators will understand why the Preacher said "Vanity upon vanity, All is vanity"

@SirJohn:

Don't mind me abeg. Just pointing out how the god of pastor chris has SO rebuked the devourer for them and blessed them that only the MoG and other tithe collectors drive cars whist the magas like the mumu above are waiting for their own "pastorates" but currently enjoying okadas. At least we have seen newmumu and azibigmouth boast of being able to pay okada drivers - devourer don die for their lives true true. Daft Sharp people with their heads in the sand.

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newmi:
Well who needs the praise of a [size=18pt]successfull failure[/size]. lolll

successfull failures?   Check out amazing grammatical constructs from our okada success.

Dude, Okadas have replaced your braincells with hot air.

And it was your not-clever marketing manager that daftly felt Zikky was praising the "sermon". Apparently, Zikky's (and the praise of man) praise matters more than truth and God's Word to your ilk. Best of all though, Zikky actually spoke tongue in cheek. But brains are not synonymous with you people so he missed it just as you missed that it was your oga that wanted praise - the praise of a "[size=14pt]successfull failure[/size]"

^^ loose brain:

Remember your lying boasts about laptops and prosperity? You speak without thought so your own case is of not reasoning AT ALL

Resurrected!

You cannot hide a light on a hill. What are they hiding? We accept that Miracles happen BUT government said if you wish to televise or advertise Miracles, provide names and addresses of the recipients. Then the authorities/society can check and verify you performed a REAL miracle. How difficult is that IF YOUR MIRACLES ARE REAL? Note that a verified miracle advertised by government will bring muslims/atheists/doubters into your congregation. William Branham did that. Why can't you if you are telling the truth? Why?

[size=18pt]Government did NOT BAN Miracles on TV.[/size] They only said they will verify ALL televised miracles. So why did the miracle workers" run away IF they knew their miracles were true?

Better stop hyperventilating. Also, your qualifications are warped - business tycoons make money honestly which your dude does NOT so don't flatter yourself. Begging poor people & manipulating them are not what a tycoon does. I won't bother qualifying your other adjectives.

Barren skulls belong to those who have heads which are only decorative i.e. not used. You are a prime example of that since your understanding of Christianity is that financial gain is to be made from Christianity. That is contrary to the Word of God which is plain stating that Godliness with contentment is in itself gain.

But you could say I am wrong and show examples from Christs life on earth or even from that of His Apostles where riches became their motive or where anyone of them was Vain (Jeri-curls, specially tailored suits, fake accents) or where they rode on the backs of the poor to purchase a fleet of cars and build a "white house". How fake - the US president lives in the original "white house" so your wannabe "world ruler" also designs and names his place "white house". But the Christ he says he follows said "this world is not his kingdom". Is the servant greater than the Master, Gombilocks?

People giving Christ a bad name are every Christians' concern. But then you are not Christians but money seeking maggots, aren't you - which is why giving Christ a bad name means nothing to you.

He's likely on the phone furiously calling for reinforcements to come and share testimonies of how many lives his fellow "gods" delivered and souls they saved hopping from okada to Molues all over the country so we keep quiet. Rich blessed Okada hoppers!

That is the extent of his scholarship - thuggery, noise, distraction and of course, avarice

And who is praising the rhapsody of errors now?

You think "Chairman" will sit at the same table with this "tape recorder"? I doubt it. Chairman is intelligent to have cornered such a market and must be ashamed of honcho's capability but pride makes it difficult to recall him and send him back to Sunday school to learn a bit more about the Bible so he could at least present partly intelligent rebuttals each time he is discovered foot in mouth (almost daily, it seems).

"Debrief"? How do you debrief the mental equivalent of a painting or a piece of flotsam?

Bah !! Its all just marketing - let them join in first and the poison will be administered. On truths above, give him 48 hours & he'll be back preaching the MOG is the "ONE" gospel

1. Because they are MOGs (as they call them) and thus stand as God to their "idiotic followers"
2. Yep - the pastor "calls" himself when he realizes his lack of conscience and then calls his family to keep the moolah within reach
3. Makes sense TO the greedy MOG who believes it is his God given right to trample on others.
4. To show they are "blessed" when actually they are cursed and acquiring more curses
5. Because the average pentecostal pastor is a lying irresponsible thief who sees ministry as a means to gain
6. Don't you see them?- they advertise with 3 million when they give out 500, 000 and humiliate the beneficiaries into lining up for their handouts

Don't bother yourself, friend - they have no answers and will ignore you. But God will not be silent always