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Deep Sight:
Somehow I never expected us to sink to these.

I will have to sign out at that, thanks. I really don't know what warrants your abuses. Enjoy.

What exactly is wrong with this joker that takes himself so seriously?

You know what esteem we hold Christ and God in and you call one the jewish Carpenter in an offensive manner.
The other you called "jewish landlord". Then you say the Bible is a book of myths YET YOUR repeatedly lying deluded confused arse that has had practically everyone here from A to Z calling you a liar, twister, every-friggging name is what nobody can address as daft when you proffer daftness as scholarship.

Yeah, better to sign out. Please ensure the door hits you on the way out and pushes you into the mud you should live in

^^^ daft response, I must say and a prideful attempt to move the target since you see your folly.

For others reading, the point is any slowpoke can call themselves god which is why I stated the cow from which the beef you ate last was a god before the knife struck. In that context, you and Agbaje are gods.

In the Biblical context, only one God exists thus you, Malu and Jo are fakes (but you can call yourself whatever). I'd expect you to prefer to call yourself satan anyway you're obviously closer home there though I wager even there, you're cause for embarrassment

Your own post #258 defeats you and shows what you were responding to. Those who read have brains.

A simple sequence =

He says he's a god or God (according to the word HE claims to believe, there is NO difference).
We say the context of gods in the Bible says he's a false god (if he wants to take the letter rather than the spirit)
He says man was god on earth before satan overthrew him (to advance his case)
Aletheia shows that to be a lie simply by stating if man was god THEN, satan couldn't use the desire to be as God to tempt him
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you jump in head first into a dry pool saying God said man became as the "us" which was AFTER the fruit.
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Was Aletheia speaking of "AFTER" or "BEFORE" to prove man was not (which is why man wanted to); thus showing Agbaje lied putting cart before horse?

BTW, the statement was "become like one of us, "KNOWING GOOG AND EVIL", not "become a God like us"

Knowing good and evil is not why you believe infinity is God, is it OR does your (and Agbaje's) godship start and end with that capability?

Deep Sight:
Your reading is incomplete.

1. First and foremost if the temptation was that ye shall become as gods, then eating the fruit fulfllied that, no?

2. Secondly, God himself confirmed the words of the devil regarding the effect of eating the fruit by saying - "behold, the man has become as one of us, knowing good and evil" - Gen 3:22.

CASE CLOSED! GBAM, GBOGA GBOSA!

IF THEY WERE ALREADY GODS, WOULD THEY "BECOME" GODS AGAIN? The argument is IF THEY WERE ALREADY, not what came after! Plus what came after was they had the knowledge without the wherewithal to make "profitable" use of it, thus they became false gods! Is that not what the Word you hate so much says? So what is new that you said? How difficult is it to comprehend that IF THEY WERE, they would NOT be becoming and the argument is some said they already were BEFORE?

How many more times do you want it repeated? Or you want it in other languages?

Why don't you use your intellect for something that supports truth for once rather than exposing the spirit that hates truth in you so blatantly? You start to bore with the senseless hatred that flies to err without even considering what is being discussed. Kilode?

InesQor:
@nuclearboy: This whole man is god thing is hinged on a lie that grew deep. The funny thing is that there is a spurious theory with no Biblical backing, that man was god on earth till the devil took it and became god of the world. Its wishful thinking at best! The Bible calls the devil the god of this world BECAUSE whatever false god that people have in this world, is a perversion, and eventually leads right back to the devil. Whatever the false god is named, the worshippers are dealing with the false god called Satan. So when these guys line up as false gods, they simply state that they are of their father, the devil, and lies are their native language, as the devil is the father of lies (John 8:44) FROM THE BEGINNING. What was this beginning lie? Setting yourself up as (a) god is a lie, the same lie of Lucifer that he sold to Eve, from the start. What a reunion, after thousands of years!

The anti-christ starting to be revealed! Insidiously and in a round-about manner, they start to deny Christ His position and glory. Making themselves out as gods, they bring God down to their level.

Truly a re-union and which is why - EVERYTHING he does, Joagbaje starts with the truth (calling upon scriptures) and turns it to a lie - just like his father chris and grandfather satan say - "you will be as god"!

I am sorry, Christians, but whist I have nothing for or against a book burning, I wonder if you CHRISTIANS ever sat down to consider how many human beings MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD the crazy muslims who react to such things would have killed worldwide?

You burn their book! So what? How does that change the price of fish in the market? And then they retaliate by killing maybe a thousand people - is that what you want? Please let us truly love others by telling the truth. What he wanted to do would have been a terrible waste of human life and for what? Some deluded claim to fame and a feel good emotion for 5 minutes!

I personally believe the baby came at full term i.e. 9 months which would mean "foul play" according to the tenets the pastor preaches. But it would really be nice if we have "PROOF" that the baby did come at 9 months, rather than supposition and suspicions.

It would only be at that time that one could be justified accusing the man. Of course, they'll hide such information (if true).

@Ganjaseed:

I thought GOC meant "General Officer Commanding"; which is a term used in the military for a divisional commander. Abi Christianity is now having battalions, brigades etc ? Meanwhile, you do know I don't subscribe to the "Man of God", special rubbish - yet you ought remember its men that are making these people out to be more than human.

They remain just human beings and humans will lie- only God is true! This is just a reminder of that.

^^^ Agbaje is twisting the Word into a pretzel!

mba emeka:
i am a god in this world!!!!! if you dont like it say your own- just say ''nuclearboy is not a god'' ''alatheia is not a god'' dont tell me what to say. I AM A GOD IN THIS WORLD! NOT IN HEAVEN, BUT IN THIS WORLD! GLORRRRRY!!

Ok, I see your point. This world ehn?   So tell me, was it in heaven that satan was a god? Was it in heaven that baal was a god? Was it in heaven that Nimrod worshiped the sun and called it his father "god"? Was it in heaven that ps 82 called non-christians "gods"

How many prayers did baal answer? or satan? or the sun? or you? whats the difference between you and those from ps 82? Your "claims" -just like your confession of Christ abi, which says you are exactly like and NOT different from the demons who also believe and tremble and "confess" like you then sit on their bottoms.

In the beginning was the Word and the Word [size=18pt]WAS[/size] God.

The Bible says Jesus was God, not an Image of God.

Jesus Himself said, "Before Abraham, I AM" and "Abraham rejoiced to see my day".

Were you there in the beginning? What was your identity then? Did Abraham know and call you Lord?

You want me to ask Jesus why He equated Himself with Psalm 82? Is that because you don't know and thats the only way you can avoid a sure fall?

The "gods" in Psalm 82 - were they born-again Christians? Were they new creatures? Were they divinity because of the new birth? So why were they called "gods" and what difference is there between your godship and theirs?

Why didn't the dude just get a G class. This must have cost that much.

^^ Mine is partly deliberate seeing as Christ tried to use everyday situations (showing wisdom and understanding) while the pharisees were the "word" (legal rigid letter) people. When I 1st joined NL, yes but now, its almost embarrassing.

When one finds such as Aletheia, scripture comes alive but its so easily twisted by these WOF people that I almost fear using it on the same pages. - for them, it somewhere says so and so and thats it - I am God, heavenly, eternally and always was etc.

Maybe if we used our brains and what nature makes obvious more , , , Sad.

^^ Which was meant in the spirit of a joke!

@Vesc, nope, not Image! I don't know whether its me or him but Image is becoming more objective adays.

^^Next time you look into a mirror, ask yourself if that is a man! Can that "IMAGE" bleed, die, punch you? That is how an image of God is not God no matter how you try to turn it.

Plus you avoided this - who was Ps 82 calling "gods"? Were they Christians? If they were not, tell us who they were and what is special about you if they too were "gods".

No long stories. No searching for props. Just address the above. But I know you'll not

InesQor:
A king throws a lavish 1-week long banquet for his son the prince, and invites some people. Not all attend, but for all that do, they are clothed like the prince, attended to by royal hands just like the prince, and they eat and drink all that the prince and king do. A stranger would think they are all royal children, cos they have been adopted for that time. They are the prince's brethren but would it not be foolish for one of them to rise to the king's face and demand his share of the will, forgetting that he is not royalty? Thats what these people do when each one calls themselves god or divine. Dont get it twisted. What you have is a rich introduction, courtesy of Christ, into God. You are NOT Christ. You are NOT God, whatever the character case. This rich introduction to His Majesty is what made the psalmist ask "WHAT is man that you are mindful of him?" and I guess Joagbaje's response would be "Im a god!". Smh.

Jo's not one of the guests. He's the stranger; a half drunk beggar who looked in, got a bottle of hard liquor and in lieu of food to eat, drank it all up, went to sleep dead drunk and in the haze, dreamt up this insanity about an imaginary christ-like capability.

I don't even know where to start but I praise God- serious christians are here stating truth and dispeling this insanity? I still wonder where the fyneguys are

Well, maybe its time I came out into the open myself

@Vesc:

Please ignore in the interest of peace. Bad advise (I know ) since I wouldn't if it was moi. But then you're normal, ain't you?

Mid-thirties? A mere gal bullying me Next I'll hear is MyJoe is mid twenties. All these people sef - una suppose dey fear me O.

god joagbaje has spoken - "Jesus did not exist before He became Flesh" how dare all of you argue with him.

god has also told us it was him who died on the cross and therefore was the one who saved us all

Where's newmi, mabell, fyneguy and donnie AND pastor chris when you need them?

The beauty of this all is that the world is learning the truth about these teachings and the spirit behind them now!

@babyteethimage123:

who told you joagbaje is not omniscient? have you forgotten he is christ died and risen PLUS god?


Joagbaje = Ignorance laminated, framed and displayed for all to see

There are too many questions that can be raised about this issue. I can think of like 5 or 6 big ones However, lets accept he is a human and none of us has right to cast a stone. And it is true "God cares" but He also forgives (if any wrong has been done).

God be with the child and bring him/her up to know God truly!

Whist undeniable that zeal and fervour are often misplaced, it cannot be denied they CAN also be rightly directed, even if inadvertently. Anyways, all in all, I hope you're not as suspicious a character as I am about motives etc. It makes for sadness.

And the point I was trying to make concerning authorship was actually, outside of the "authorship". Take it as a personal view (as everything with me is) that I believe God chose what He wanted us to find in it and what not to find and shaped/worked events to "that" end/destination. Which is why whether Joagbaje wrote 1 Peter or MyJoe wrote it is secondary to me - what matters is the message (to me). Even the deliberate mistranslations could be understood in the context of "Let him that hath understanding" - some will, some won't! The confusion has reason (there is reason in insanity) just as God has reason for not making us all Mad_Max or boko haram members (pbu-them-all).

Anyways Mummy, MyJoe was right - you ought to write: what comes forth makes compelling reading!

I always seem to be fighting but this is all so easy it puzzles me how people can miss it. Jesus and the Word! Whats the difference?

Can anyone touch himself? Yep, you can touch your head or shoulder or nose or whatever! The only way YOURSELF IS EXPRESSED is when someone calls you and you answer! Who answered? YOU! ! ! You are your word! So what was Jesus? Was it the flesh or the essence, the spirit/Word behind the body? I'm sure if He fell down, he would bleed - can God bleed? Why does the Bible tell us God is Spirit yet we insist Jesus is flesh? What then separates you from muslims and aboriginals saying "Atanatu - God does not use the toilet"?

How can Christians say these things and feel happy with themselves when it is stated that the "word BECAME flesh". That word was the real person and it was that word that created all things!

How hard is that to comprehend?

^^^

One reason why I really want to meet you - whist some prefer (insist) to believe only the lies, you choose to listen and whist not accepting everything, at least sift in a manner that makes your objectivity obvious.

I'll lift a glass to you any day.

Serious request this time - What happened to the thread "Christians on NL"? I got a mail it was moved to "General" but it ain't there.

@Image:

I keep telling you - very soon, you'll be called babyteeth, roforofo fighter, degenerate etc with the way you're challenging pastor chris. PLEASE don't forget you're an ordinary chritian, Paul, James and John were ordinary apostles whist joagbaje and pastor chris are "god".

Moses, Enoch and Elijah are also watching and learning from them, by the way.

You better be careful.

@Mad_Max:

Not querying you or defending anything but does it really matter who actually wrote 1 & @ Peter if they carry the message they are supposed to carry? If the animal who despoiled, tortured and killed a 2 year old was stopped by either of a man or a woman, would the sexuality of the baby's defender really matter to you? Would it not be that she was defended that would be your "peace"?

On demons, I believe Man (maybe I should say men) to be the greatest demon. Thats why Truman said "the buck stops here". We blame satan, demons, other men, God, even babies for the evil we do. But if there is a God, there is an enemy and we cannot totally absolve him of guilt. But 97.5% probably comes from us

^^ Whats with this your "#okbye" ? I hope Seun won't accuse you of designing scripts to hack into his servers?

The quotes you've highlighted from the "Talmud" seem to me to be the exact reason why we ought to read them. That way, any supposed Christian leader who uses ideas rooted in them however insidiously will be better easily recognised by the listeners ability to reference the source of information.

I find it hilarious though that the designers could not find better to say than "fornication with a jackass" and "3 year old girls are marriagable as long as they're one day past that august age". Total lack of intelligence though I can think of one person here who will find this ineluctably logical.

Any link to where-ever I can get to read a copy? The toilet honey thingy? - I hope not too many of such are in it though

^^ No wahala.

This "connection" thing you mention would be insane if true - jo, newmi, mabell, nuella, drmightie, kenyan22 ? Scary yet apt when one considers the motive is targeted adverts designed to fill the pews and the money coffers.

Make we all continue - one day, the chaff will be separated. Whats interesting is total disregard of "I never knew you" and the accompanying judgement. Also, cut to the chase and you'll find empty barrels with nothing solid down - the faintest breeze strips such naked which is why they're desperate to have acolytes who'll support them and fight to keep such in bondage

Very recently I said Joagbaje is to Christianity what Abuzola is to Christianity. I should have said "Nopuqeater" - So the scriptures have been altered ehn? And God was unable to keep them AND Jesus wasn't "always" - no wonder it is ROR that is authentic and unfortunately, chris embassy has refused to show us the "authentic Bible". Any talk now would be considered as insults and abuse.

And of course, delusional idiotic moronic statements like these are the ones that have sound background to the apostle of infinity. Both of you fit perfectly anyway - delusion + abstraction!

@newmi:

Jesus wasn't always? Thats what you support that makes you expect me to cheer you on? Of course, Yahweh was lying when He said ALL other gods (including you, joagbaje and chris) are false gods? And it was Joagbaje that was referred to in Ps 82 as a "god", right? For if it was not a born-again christian, what does that tell you about your claim except that anyone and anything can make it? I did not insult you - I tried to call you to reason. As Enigma said (and I rephrase), this is about insanity thats gone cross-country.

@Inesqor:

Please come into this and where exactly is Viaro? He knew how to handle these people without losing it.

@Vesc:

Aliens too?

5 naira, 15 naira, 200 naira, 1 dollar, a bag of cowries, my bathroom slippers, the breeze blowig right now - all na god then depending on the viewer!

So whats new?

I get your point and its well made - petitions are prayers and thus we all have prayed to others (still do). But its not just pray. There's the worship angle (amongst others) where again, you brought up lovely indicators. When my daughter kneels to thank me, is that worship? Men have told us they worship their wives - is that true? When they lose them to divorce or death, does not the illusion eventually dry up? Will the end not bring an end much as dried up rivers eventually lose their goddesses?

And your dog?

Which is why I accepted on the other thread that yes, ALL have "effect", "power", whatever, over something else and thus ALL are "gods". But being transient, limited and graded on a "as is influence" basis, ALL are fake except for the one true God who stands out of creation and its fickleness and IS, rather than "became" and then "could lose" it.