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@bashy_demy:

You are folly just like your name. Yet you say somebody married you - she must be deaf, dumb, blind and a slowpoke to boot OR more likely, you visited alfas and you people used your demonic arts on the innocent woman.

You ask if I am ready to face you alone AFTER I told you exactly that? Seems the banging of your head against the floor has so loosened the bolts in it that it turned you to repeating everything you hear or why are you repeating?

If you have the nerve,
[1] open the thread and challenge ME or ALETHEIA
[2] tell your fellow violence-minded donkeys to keep off
[3] swear by that Koran you're so proud of that you will ask a question once and not obfuscate issues.
[4] swear there will be no al-taqiyya
[5] swear that if you see truth about any issue, you will NEVER AGAIN IN YOUR LIFE raise the issue.
[5] We will address your posers first OR my own posers first - no confusion and no scattering
[6] if any of your fellow slaves comes & makes any noise, you agree your religion is violence based and your God cannot defend yourself is why.
[7] NO SINGLE POST will be longer than 10 lines and you cannot post without getting a reply.

The only reason why people like you seem intelligent is because you have numbers who come, scatter everything with lists of idiotic queries, move from inheritance to ghosts to morality to the complexion of your wife's (which one sef?) skin to the idea that you don't eat pork to typing arabic you don't understand to extending the thread so far it becomes meaningless. Follow rules and lets see if you truly have anything upstairs.

One hint before you start - YOU MUST OBEY THE QURAN TOTALLY and I TOO MUST OBEY THE BIBLE - Christianity is the NEW TESTAMENT!

Do you dare, ignorant illiterate donkey?

^^^ The truth is that Mohammed was right when he said "if you are confused or do not understand anything, go to the people of the book for explanation. They are learned and not proud". The day ANYONE of you does so, he never returns to islam.

But another truth is that Mohammed said "Arabians (muslims) are donkeys, illiterate and unwilling to learn"

It is apt to consider that NOBODY argues about whether the sun will rise tomorrow. Apt to consider that real Christians will never be pained or angry no matter what insults you throw at Christ, the Holy Spirit, Paul or whatever. What pains us is your murderous instincts - a guy burns paper and you start steaming from the ears like cartoon characters and you burn people in return. You open your mouths and say "western education/enlightenment is evil" then you go sit at embassies begging to go live in the western world. You say a man gets 72 virgins as reward in paradise but what did the wives of Mohammed get when they died? here they were only 23 but there they'll now be 95 with the 72 extra (thats if he doesn't assign 900 to himself there). You say Islam means peace and then show us peace by telling us that if we say anything you decide is bad about someone who died over 1, 000 years ago, you will kill hundreds of people.

Not one of your leaders has come out to say Muslims who kill or commit suicide are murderous and going to hell-fire! The whole world went crazy because an idiot said he wanted to burn korans. Do you notice how many Christians here condemned him? Why are we condemning him? We respect your beliefs even if we don't agree with them. Why can't you respect other people?

Vedaxcool has posted a story above of someone who left Xtianity for Islam. Good for him! Allow people post the opposite in return. But no, you say it is peace and yet there is no difference between you and the mullahs who killed in Jos. Your violence shows even in NL posts - violence is disorganized, angry, untruthful, gory and without reason. Your posts are disorganized (you veer off into inanities), angry (dead god, mounting ghost god repeating stupid stilted nonsense like someone with mental problems), untruthful (you turn words upside down and when corrected, get more angry), gory (you scatter english so much we don't know where to start) and without reason (okay, so what do you gain in a long reckless post that doesn't address the issue). So whats the difference?

Let one of you create a thread, swear by your Allah and Mohamed that he will not digress ONCE and that he will not use tricks or al-taqqiya and challenge Aletheia, myself, phillip to a debate. Ask questions and get answers. Or better still. One person face me, another face Aletheia, etc but I'm sure that won't make you happy. Its mob action you like yet want to say - the killers are a minority. If you're not like them, here's your chance!

@Aletheia:

Got it thanks! Simon the Rock versus Simon the Priest. Interesting that nothing truly is new under the sun.

@Inesqor:

You know we all missed you. You guys ought not leave NL to the self acclaimed angels and gods O. Some claims have been made in your absence that will make you feel like you were tested by the electric chair for half a sec. Check "joagbaje come defend your paul james , " thread for a sampling

Will eagerly await the stuff. I hope twill be stuff that can illuminate some paths on NL

^^ why don't you go praise oyakilome on your night of bliss thread or buy a car or kabash or whatever it is of those things that matter that you use to re-assure yourself you are prospering in your VISION?

Your presence and actions here are giving too much away, you know - you're making it blatantly obvious true believers are a problem for you.

Obviously, the True church is marching on and as it was said and written "The gates of hell will not prevail against it". That is an institution that is not known for numbers or popularity but for the choices made by its members.

What I find most amazing though about the concept of hell is that satan fights more against the church from within than from without. Jesus and the Apostles repeatedly informed us of such as "Satan is himself revealed as an angel of light", "false prophets and christs" etc.

Why is it so difficult for people to understand that it is insidious teachings and alternative gospels that will form the bulwark of such satanic activity inside religion and will be directed against the church. A warning as dire as Christ Himself saying "even the very elect will be almost deceived" and that "they will come saying we did great things in your name only to be told I never knew you" should be taken as extremely serious and to be kept in mind. Yet what people want is a "Superstar" who has oratory powers, can make them feel good, covers his lies and deceit with religious postulations, tells them to believe and they will prosper and thats it - they've found their solution and their Christ.

Crazy people arise saying they know more than Christ, are greater than Abraham, Moses and Elijah (who are watching them with 2B exercise books taking notes on how to live the kingdom life) and can actually say that some apostles knew very little/nothing. Where Christ lived a modest life, these live life to the full complete with all the trappings of wealth and excessive luxury.

Where the Word says "field based" missionaries (who have left ALL for His work) have right to live off the gospel, these sit in the finest seats in cities claiming they are busier than Christ, Paul, Peter and thus cannot do any work and thus live off the work of their congregations. What are they busy doing? Watching Beyonce and Shakira's "butts" and hoping to "do them" as one of them just informed us is a lifelong ambition he knows will not be realised. Well, at least, he has a 400 million Naira air-conditioning system!

Na wa O. But God's day is coming! And it won't be funny!

@Ogoamaka99:

The lowest of those angels that fell with satan from heaven seems to be the one sending you about. Before he sent you out, he obviously took all your brains and replaced them with dirty water. Thats why you have no common sense, cannot understand the Bible and do not have shame with the rubbish you keep saying making Christianity out to be a fiasco.

God created all things perfect but some like you devised many things including levels of stupidity hitherto inconceivable. You have been so mentally damaged by your demons that you've become a vulture.

I don't know when they started allowing vultures access to computers - go to the desert and look for rotting meat to eat.

@kunle:

Why bother to respond to "it". Ogoamaka99 is a waste of space and time - I wonder if such were not created just so the rest of us know that no matter how bad things are, we have plenty to thank God for. At least our brains are functional and common sense is available to us.

Imagine a human saying the only way to know christians is if they follow other men when Christ Himself said only God has such honor. Dead, rotted, stinking lying fellow. Next you'll hear from him is "poverty mentality" showing life for the mistake is about cash.

@TV01:

Please let it go. What you are/have will be a source of worry and fear to contrary spirits. You cannot expect their love

^^^ Koboko? They don't use koboko much anymore. What they do is chain neck to wrists and wrists to ankles. My bricklayer brought a boy to site and I almost wept. The wounds! His oga laughingly told me the alfas chained him for 4days without food because he was sturbbon. What sturbonness? He didn't answer the prayer call fast enough. 13 year old. His eyes are now dead indicating deadened emotions. He beat him 2ce that day (with me begging like it was me) and it didn't seem to mean anything to the boy. When it was prayer time, he went through the motions. A life basedon fear.

When they eat in those ile-kewu, you'll think its animals fighting - grab and bolt or even stuff into your pocket to eat later. Which is why they'll not leave here - the emptiness has become life and they live in fear. Supporting error is a good thing for them cos they're taught it gives them points.

BTW, the longer and less applicable their stories/posts, the more certain the beatings they received then have dislodged vital brain portions

@Vesc: Again MY perspective!

We're talking God here not any of us so it conceivable that He does things we cannot do. Remember my God identification mantraa "I AM THAT I AM" - I take this to mean a personage that does as He wishes and because of His position in the scheme of things cannot be queried as a matter of compulsion i.e. He owes us no explanation just as the chicken I ate last couldn't query me!.

3 in 1 would to my understanding mean MyJoe, Vescucci and Myself (all being known to each other) sharing an account here on NL. Of course there would be agreement that whatever I say is your/his position.

But in the Bible, you will find reference to God as being just the one except in transitory verses such as that which say "the Lord said unto my Lord - sit down at my Right Hand till I make thy enemies thy footstool". I call these transitory because they show a starting point (so to say) and reward for something seemingly different - a MAN-GOD. As we like to spout, God is spirit yet here comes this "flesh" who has fulfilled the original Adamic covenant. He gets the reward promised Adam. But the only reason why He could fulfill it is because He does not have the nature of the rest of us - He has the God Nature. Read that as God's mind, Spirit, understanding plus the Bible says He was the Word and was God.

I've said this before - Over a phone, I'm a voice and concerning issues I excel in, I might seem larger than life. I've had that happen a number of times here on NL. See me and it looks like "wow, so this is THAT guy". Why? Were they expecting 2 heads or a tail? It was because the expectation especially concerning such things is usually geared towards our own manner of thinking. I can remember wishing I could be God for 5 minutes; its funny the things I wanted that august position for. Have you too never considered such? The desires we have make us believe no-one could have such capability and not be like us - the idea is a major indictment on us (that we are so below such personage) and no one wishes to pronounce himself guilty and send himself to jail (well, except Pablo Escobar).

Separate the Flesh from the Spirit and what you find then is the essence - Creator, Holy, etc. But it was the Flesh that glorified the "person". what would have been the right to do? Throw it away?

I sincerely believe God has approached "individuals" in other forms. But these 3 we speak about are His trademark (pun intended) for ALL mankind. He could come to you as a voice in your sleep or a stranger that offers advise on the street - that was your own experience. But consider - we understand that satan presents himself even as an angel of light! What then stops him from creating multiple instances of manifestations which would gradually derail his audience? Thus Christianity insists "God is ONE" and Jesus put the seal on how to view Him when He said "Baptise by Father, Son and Holy Spirit" which I believe to indicate Spirit, Body and Soul. No more, AND no less!

Even at that, Bro, life is replete with satan trying to pass himself of as one or all of the three. Truly, it can seem complicated. But repeated true study will take differing portions and provide one whole

Image:

Please let it go. Everyone has seen the truth here. If you don't, they will rile you up and you will say things that will cause you to be regarded as apostate. Those who follow truth understand what you're saying and why you will get angry. Those who have itching ears and fake claims excel at making people get angry then claim its a demon talking.

Already they are getting to you. Leave them to their delusions.

BTW, of course they understand more than the Apostle James. He was an ordinary Apostle and they are Angels, God, etc and Moses, Elijah etc are watching right now learning from them.

Assuredly, I see your point. In the spirit of the bereans though, I search for myself and am not a cow in a herd. the choices came down to which to choose - the creeds and traditions of men OR the Word of God? Briefly I found -

[1] Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is One God
[2] In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God
[3] Baptising them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit (with the idea they form a unity)

One God. thats a definite! The Word was God. Still one! That Word became Flesh. Still one. Baptise in the "combined" name of Father, Son, Spirit. considering you and DS have argued that the Spirit is the "force" of God, I'd assume you believe Him the same as the essence of God.

So what are we talking about? History shows us that men have always devised ways to glorify themselves rather than God and thus it makes sense that they would dilute Gods in an attempt to "raise up" themselves. Even here, we see the infallible NL "gods", don't we? Because such abound, the tendency is to take them as the voice of Christianity but one pointer to the truth is that true Christians are "called out" of their assemblies and usually are not conformists. In the case of Christianity, minority usually means truth. Take a look at the thread "Christians on NL" and you'll get my point. I would really love to see if you agree with my choice of "maturing" Christians on NL based on what you've seen people write here.

Again, "Biblical based" Christianity does not teach 3 in 1. That is just the worldly "christian" position ! We have just the one God!   

@Jesoul:

Thanks for your kind words - I've been MC and crowd clown at many gatherings since childhood. Going thru a lot makes you able to find fun in more. But if you really want to laugh, Comedy central has some totally amazing stuff - try New York Friars roasts (Drew Carey, Hugh Hefner etc). And then there were the Dean Martin celebrity roasts of the 70s. Some totally awesome stuff there. If you want specific links, let me know.

Oga mi:

for you, Sir, Free! (But I wouldn't mind the new X6 whether base model or top gun)

But lets wait and see if OP understands how far that is and his response to it. I still sincerely think his threads are a joke anyway - just wondering who here is playing this game.

One pointer to my belief this is a joke is that the only question relating to irete was asked by me. To my amazement, in his response, he asks us to go read about "ogbe-irete"! What manner of practitioner doesn't know iretemeji and eji-elemere do not belong to that orisha class? If he'd have us believe he wasn't answering MY question or refering to me, where did the reference to Ogbe-irete come from?

NL! One thing I've learned here is that the amount of heresay that passes for expert knowledge will leave you speechless if exposed.

Why wasn't it a microwave oven that he fell backwards on?

Rubbish. Dude was probing his prostate!

strange that the victim mentality cuts across all belief systems.

@OP:

I said I wanted to see how truly versed you are. Thus I asked a few questions. There was NO attempt at a bomb of any sort anywhere. If you truly read what I wrote and sat to think of it, you'll have an idea how far I went. I explicitly said I walked away only for one reason - too much knowledge can be detrimental. Ororun (5 days) checks keep you on your toes and thus you make choices based on knowledge. BUT that knowledge is myopic since it doesn't consider enough of the future and/or the effect on other people/issues. It was a choice I made because I made too many mistakes based on thinking I knew enough.

You have practically copied from the Santeria site everything you wrote on NL that actually discusses IFA. all you did was change names from the Brazilian names to their Nigerian counterparts Thats why I am puzzled and would like to know if this is a joke as I am wont to believe you're an old poster here playing games.

Why don't you answer my questions just so we know you truly have an idea? These are very easy questions to answer even for me that never practiced except as the one being divined for. I practiced for years and I'm fanatical about anything I believe. I wasn't a teacher yet the final FINAL step was the only one I shirked from!

@PASTOR:

The Practice of IFA of neccessity provides you with information concerning the future. Divination is the practice and it always says something! I do not know about you Sir, but I never met anyone who doesn;t make choices based on knowledge e.g. if you know robbers carrying AK47s are on a particular road, you'll likely avoid it YET that could be where God wants you to pass having set up some profit/whatever WITH absolute safety for you. Aside that, I do agree that its the practise that matters.

I guess I'll sit back and allow "Baba Tunde" who calls people he doesn't know "son" his day on NL.

@MyJoe:

I remember my last beating and my neck is still in traction from the library so I won't go down that road again.

But you'll agree Mad_Max asked "ME" what I believe.

Sincerely too, what I see is "Hear O Israel, the Lord thy God is ONE God", not three Gods in one. You will accept that the fact that everyone is a killer does not make killing right! Christianity does not teach what you say. Many Christians teach it.

[size=4pt]Now I've vented, should I go wait in the library or just go to jail without passing "GO" or getting $200?[/size]

Amazing how most are non-conformists who "basically" refuse to be affiliated to any "church" and were "delivered" usually from pentecostalism. Makes one remember the issue of some being known as the "called-out" ones! Also makes me wonder anew at the identity of Babylon the LovePeddler!

"ttalks" is especially interesting to me because that obviously was an issue of a person truly "called out".

Kunle is quite a character (to be sincere). tithes Tithes TITHES! But it goes past that, my brother. And I'm honored to call you such!

@Toluxa1:

I missed out your name (forgot since you've been hiding). I also missed out chukwudi44 who I respect except for supporting RCC no matter what!

@Image123:

The penchant to refuse to accept wrong EVER is the only undoing I see. Aside that, Thumbs up to you! Toba supports any thing that looks or sounds Christian - but all that glitters is not gold: we're meant to judge starting from inside.

Our darling Jesoul:



Finally to Noetic 1, 2, 3,4,5,6,7,8 , 17:

NL has no sword/gun logo else I've have presented "arms"!

^^ He did not remove it because of me AND you! Go sit on that.

And all you need do is tell us one thing the TRUE God can do that Christ could not. ergo Jesus IS Lord

I wan laugh die for here.

The Bible says "the Word became flesh" but now Pastor Christ-Embassy says "human body rested upon Jesus".

I must get a copy of every ROR ever produced. laughter incorporated. Twill ensure I sleep laughing every night. Angels must be embarrassed in Heaven at these people

okay, so this is not a "true" Christian discussion but I was thinking - based on what I read here, who would I listen to if I find something I do not understand in the Scriptures or I want sincere CHRISTIAN counsel. I put together a list and would really wish to know what background affiliation these people have i.e. Baptist, RCC, Pentecostal, Seventh-day, whatever.

Those I view as being truly maturing Christians here would be

Jesoul (ladies first)
Pilgrim1 (never knew her though I hear she re-incarnated as the Angel Viaro, commander of the linear-tarradiddle hosts)
TV01 (I call him "Teach"
Aletheia
Enigma
Ttalks
Viaro
Inesqor
David-the-Giant-Killer-dylan
Noetic 1 - 17 
cgift
Olaadegbu (sincere even though I saw him as dogmatic and trying too hard. But definitely clean and straightforward)
yommyuk
No2atheism (where's that dude?)
Kunleoshob (tithe-Master)

PS: I was/am still Pentecostal though I've been everything in and out of Christianity in the past too.

If its not too much to ask, whats your "church" type?

PS: This list may not be exhaustive and I may have forgotten some biggies. One name escapes me but I also know him as "Modamo"!

^^^ Don't bother with fyneguy! He's fulfilling his assigned role to support his leader here on NL.

If that is what bakes his potatoes, allow him his kicks. I will ignore him forthwith knowing they have naught to offer.

The functions of the SELF are to think, judge and act. When you give the decision over such to another, you become an extension of such and lose your own self.

You, Aletheia, are obviously an extension of Christ. Allow these people show the world who and what Oyakilome is since they're given to him.

As we all can see, their leader here is doing a great job already and I hope his master is quite proud of him/them

some funny, warped yet predictable responses here.

Luckily the Bible is unambiguous about the form. Plus any worship/reverence for ANY picture/figurine/representation no matter how sincerely done is idolatry.

@Missy:

Please share with us what you've learned/confirmed today!