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^^^ Atimes I wonder if God doesn't allow some of us pass through such experiences just so one would be able to help others having issues with such later. God knows I've had my share of helping many past such issues. But the knowledge is great and very interesting

As to poster responding, I wouldn't bet on it. He already started another thread totally ignoring this one since those questions.

Funny thing is, his postulations on the new thread, come directly from http://homepage.mac.com/drmaryann/trono.html which makes me think its an old poster here playing games with those who'd jump at any semblance of solution or knowledge to issues real or imagined.

The Spirit of God knows EVERYTHING because there is NO distance and no limitations in the spirit.

Jesus DELIBERATELY limited Himself because of Aletheia myself, etc, and ALL the people making noise here about Him. He limited Himself by putting on flesh and that is why the Bible says "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God". "And the Word became flesh and dwelt amongst men". Our own God lives with us in LOVE and does not promise us hellfire as reward but His presence for always!

When He "became" flesh, He limited Himself. The limitation made it to be true that "AS FLESH", He did not know the day or time! As limited as He was however, He MADE SURE THERE WOULD be no controversy about who He was as even your own Koran testifies that Jesus is God. There is NO attribute you can find for God outside of Flesh that is not recorded in your Koran as being manifested in Jesus Christ. NONE![/b]

All the ATANATU rubbish is simply that - rubbish!!! God is a Spirit. Therefore if you want to show us your scholarship, the "truth" in you and the honesty of your belief system, remove the flesh portion of Jesus (if you have enough imagination) and show us ONE thing God can do that Jesus cannot do.

[b]Show it to us even from your Koran which you say is infallible. Or keep quiet! Remember your own Koran says we are to teach you!

On the infallibility of your Koran, you still have not and cannot explain how "god" does not know arithmetric. 2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8 = 9/8 NOT 8/8 which is 1

How can you expect someone to pity "god"?

Even if I must say this type of "god" is wonderful - imagine god asking how to modify an ordinary post when his mates are creating galaxies and planets and animals like the rhinoceros. I'd have expected "god" to confess/claim what he wants the post to be and pronto - a healing miracle on the post! One thing truly suprises me however - I thought Michael Jackson died last year (I must be growing old ). When did Christians start praying for dead men to get saved? Cos it seems to me that "praying for" is a phrase that falls into the "present continuous" not "past"! Abi "god" too don dey talk > Michael Jackson (SAW)

PS: DS will definitely get the joke. He's got that and more mental capability. Its the "gods" we need to teach what a joke is

Another brilliant writeup by Chukwudi44

WOF people,

Since the Bible says "the righteousness of THE RIGHTEOUS shall NOT deliver him when he trangresses" etc, how do you explain your "nature of righteousness"?

Verse 17 above is particularly directed at such eisegesis. Please let us have your take on your doctrine of confession as opposed to the direct statements above which clarify that any supposed "nature" of righteousness ALONE will NOT save a transgressor?

^^^

nuclear --- boy, now woman!

ce ------- thief, criminal, cross dresser, scammer

call off your dogs, Jo!

@Vescucci and Jesoul:

Which of these scenarios? [1] Nuclearboy gets the ax [2] Jo gets the ax [3] DeepSight gets the axe

[1] Nothing'll happen except I lambast Jo with my mouth for making a mockery of truth and deepSight of course supports him since his problem is hatred for the Nazarene which would ensure he supports an enemy of Christ against me. The ax being in my arms will stop both from attacking me

[2] You will bring me out with shovels and mops with DeepSight postulating legally that his primary task was to protect himself from ax-man Jo. A hidden camera will show he actually cheered him on during the massacre.

[3] The door, walls and the very air will take off once DS starts his legal battles against himself. I mean, how does anyone strive with ineluctable, staggering, undeniable proof that you're saying the opposite of what you are since a staggering shintiyan-lifter has decided what he wants to hear you said? Both me and Jo will be dragged half insensate, me moaning "satan had the ax" and Jo moaning "my father had the ax"

BTW, Did you read about the drunk who sat at a bar screaming "I hate Lawyers, I hate DEM Lawyers, Lawyers are arseholes". Up comes a guy who walks up and says "I take exception to your statement". So the drunk asks him "why, are you a lawyer" and the response "No, I'm an arsehole".

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I have feelings for the poor, but I DO NOT subscribe to the notion that it is blessed to be poor, it's not in the Bible.

Bro:

Luke 6:20 (New International Version)

Looking at his disciples, he said: "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God.

Luke 6:20 (King James Version)

And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.


Luke 6:20 (Amplified Bible)
And solemnly lifting up His eyes on His disciples, He said: Blessed (happy--[a]with life-joy and satisfaction in God's favor and salvation, apart from your outward condition--and [b]to be envied) are you poor and [c]lowly and afflicted (destitute of wealth, influence, position, and honor), for the kingdom of God is yours!

Footnotes of Amplified from:
a.Luke 6:20 Hermann Cremer, Biblico-Theological Lexicon.
b.Luke 6:20 Alexander Souter, Pocket Lexicon.
c.Luke 6:20 Joseph Thayer, A Greek-English Lexicon.

No one wishes poverty but rather than the curse it is portrayed to be from pulpits, God has them in mind as the Bible says. Consider he was talking to His Apostles

Oh okay, so todays an anniversary of the day the reckless fornicator was found peeping (even as a babe) into assemblies of sin in Sodom and Gomorrah and initiated into the order of the libertines! Wow

Best wishes anyway, for many happy returns to Infinity's Anointed Apostle

Mad_Max:

You ask questions and I think you've answered them too whist probably not knowing so

For clarity, whist some posters here obviously have as scholarship, graduation from ile-kewu where they learnt to recite arabic (not understand it), some of us went to conventional schools.

We know that "western education is bad" according to some religions and based on what we've seen them do because they hated western education, but please do NOT argue with adherents of western education when you are bereft of it.

Your people would have beheaded Einstein rather than listen to him.

And your arguments here are an insult to reason. It is idiotic to try to use refraction or relativity to add fractions - Einstein had NOT developed the theories yet when you were given that 2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8 = 1. No human being uses quantum mechanics, strength of materials or relativity to divide inheritances. You are wasting your time arguing against educated people when you are illiterate just to make a lie true. Its impossible.

Please do what we know you for - swing off on another tangent pretending this never happened. But this has been settled and the score is obvious 1 - 0 plus of course - Jesus is Lord

The real issue is that "Truth is bitter". You all are hot, bothered and smarting, hence your sweat. Rather than come out of the dirt you live in, you try to drag others down (but by word, not truth).

Call me a BOY - e no pain me. This BOY is smarter, sharper, more truthful and is born both of blood and of God.
Call me unintelligent - e no pain me. Even you do not believe that but you see your image when you dress your curls. You remind me of the Jerry Springer Show
Call me unregenerated - but why is it you that is smarting and accepting correction from everyone?
Call me whatever - means nothing to me OR EVEN to you. Its truth thats bitter ergo why e dey pain you. Lies are funny and sound stupid -

like when you say you are Christians. You are "yaps-yakkian dummies"
like when your transverstite swivel hipped "Oga" claims God uses faith. Moronic!

Thats why people are amazed when you say anything thats true (the once or twice that ever happened on NL) - because they know you're dead rotting meat from the backside of a skunk

Thats why its you that steal from hotels, banks, even yourselves all to give chris. Imagine the extent of derangement that makes your people steal from your own bank to give your oily chairman.

They say show me your friend and I'll tell you who you are. I have NO friends that are criminals, moronic, man-worshippers or dunces. As I once told Jo-boy, Balaam's donkey would have kicked you to Paris and back.

BTW, the word is "apologise" not "appologise". This is an international forum - go learn good english! Or come pay this BOY to teach you some.

Next!

^^^ You have neither trumpet nor capability to blow one. What you're known for is the dance of fools and the worship of chris yaks

@Ilo-Baba: Iba fun eyin agba!

@Toluxa1: I won't tell anyone not to search his path. Just be careful - you're getting on a path where it could easily become about what you want, rather than what God wants. It creeps up on you.

Meanwhile, as per Nuclearboy, a lot has passed under this bridge.

Many years back, people like some business advertisers on this forum made me to believe Christ was a lie so I walked away. Islam did not last 3 months before I walked past it, then came the eastern religions and meditation. Finally someone took me to a 102 year old who was so kind, patient, and so POTENT. I started the initiates process and got to the penultimate level.

But I've always been a thinker and one day, it struck me that the Bible acknowledges the capability of such (divination, readings, etc) BUT posits that its not always, that knowing the right, gives you the right. I was MADE to see that clearly as over and over, I found out what was ahead and eventually found I made the wrong choice BECAUSE I knew. Its complicated but my wanderings always brought me back to Christ - I always found Him in amazing places and believe me, I waka pass small. All the big things we see on AfricaMagic yoruba - I had them all and my home became an armoury the traditional way and then some. I finally walked away when it became too obvious to me where I ought to be. And thats why I'm sure of what I hold - I know what it cost me to walk away. And my knowledge is based on experiences, not books or discussion.

I ask the questions above because like Pastor_AIO, its somewhat disconcerting to see someone with those claims coming out like he's soliciting. Lets see him get past them before we talk further

Would you mind if a small verification is done on you sir? Please note this is small -

[1] The first step in Ifa initiation is to "rin 'fa"! how many steps follow that and what are their names in ascending order?
[2] Can you give us details about the "Ogbe" ifa class? The names, seniority and basic precepts?
[3] Suppose I throw "Agba" twice and 1st I get "ogundabede" and then "iretemeji", how would you explain this if I were female?
[4] What if I were "male"? How would you explain it especially if my Ifa is "eji elemere".
[5] If I "te'ifa " and what I get is " "
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what would my ifa be called and what are the guidelines you would give me following that?

^^^ First time I hear Jo accept he is not infallible. Normally, what we hear is that he is God, angel, righteous etc when Christ Himself humbled Himself (knowing the limitations of FLESH) and said "no one is good except God". If God then was humble, do we have right to strut about proudly?

If you are ready to continue like this Bro (and hopefully put God in His place and MEN in theirs - starting from Oga chris), maybe its time for such as me to leave the religious section as a poster and become just a learner. Whist Pride goes before a fall, humility is the true mark of a servant child of God. 

anything you people want to say is fine by me. But even you know the truth - thats why for lack of something to say, Sule the american maiguard is bringing math that is so childish & claiming moroccan solutions. Did anyone hear of the liars creed? They always say thier witness is far away. Vedaxcool, there is nothing God can do that Jesus cannot do - plus he could use the toilet too. What a great God that humbles Himself. If you say I'm lying, show us from the Koran what God can do that Christ cannot. All the math, inheritance, atanatu shows fear of truth showing so you bring in rubbish stuff. On Atanatu - an electric socket does not have any excretory facility so pls start worshipping them. Jesus is Lord and thats final. Even the Koran compares Him directly & determines He is God

Sagamite:
Attention (Zombie), prosperity, salvation (Zombie), tithe, first fruit (Zombie), Thanksgiving , offering (Zombie), sowing, special prayer (Zombie) . . . . .

Zombie should be replaced with "bring-money"

@Enigma:

I dey feel you O. Its a wonder.

vedaxcool:
Like I simply said the verses must be read in their context and fI asked the simple question to Alethia and co, why is it that women in Christianity women only started inheriting in the 16th centuary. Yet we know Missionary blindness afflicts entire generation of Christians, that is probably why you remain blind to that par of my reply eh, alethia.

Why did christian women start inheriting in the 16th century? What do that have to do with the price of anything? Nothing, no reason, Or ok, that was when they started - thats the reason.

What does that have to do with 2/3 +1/3 + 1/8 = 9/8 which we are being told is equal to 8/8?

@Rhino:

When/how/why did ratios enter this thread? Please show exactly where so we understand your point! Because I see nobody fighting saying ratios are the same as fractions! What we want is to see how the FRACTIONS above add up to one.

Please no digression. Let us listen to the professors

Thanks Vescucci!

Yes, MyJoe and Mad_Max, I meant 1 "as" 3.

Scenario 1:

I call you. You hear my Voice (my essence)
I write you. You read my words (my soul, thoughts, whatever)
I visit you. You see me physically (but that doesn't mean you know ALL of me)

Scenario 2:

I am a father          -------
I am an employer              |---- same person
I am a friend          -------

But again as in scenatio 1, thats not all there is to me.

I could also be a stranger (if you get my point) and you may even decide that since you never had experience of me, I do not exist or if I do, do not matter.

With the Bible (especially as regards today), what I see is a lot of flatulent people claiming God is a Father and that exclusively. Yet the Bible is all about relationships - children, friends, servants, enemies, whatever. That view then, remains stilted and I daresay initiated from some one(s) trying to get something out of you by offering what is not real but tickles your fancy.

@MyJoe:

Don't laugh at me, abeg. Mad_Max reminds me of my teacher in Nursery School. She "loved" us till we feared! I wouldn't want to write "I will be a good boy" 100 times or have to kiss the girl (urgh  ) I poked fun of to makeup.

^^ @Rhino:

are you saying that 2/3 is not a fraction but a ratio? Or 1/3? or 1/8?

Two thirds is not a fraction?

You find it easy to see small problems with other people's beliefs and now that you have this staring at you, you wish to re-define math.

Abeg if you have nothing to say, go find a prayer mat, pray then go to sleep.

2/3 +1/3 = 1 and + 1/8 = 9/8. No controversy there.

^^^ Furthermore, the religion under which those commandments were given is known as JUDAISM, not Christianity.

nopuqeater:
Its hard number and it is not a guess work that is an art. I have a better of math and I did many senior math courses. More than necessary for engineering and close to a major in math.

Columbia University advertises that they can turn a music major to a medical doctor. I see your problem in applied science. Go to any University in Nigeria, a country that you live in and tell them solve this problem and the muslim man solved it but i dont believe him. Let him do the mimor miracles in front of you. And by the way, how did 19 divides 95_5x, again and you have a ard number? Now thats magic.

Mehn, I didn't know Imesi-Ile Ahmadiyya Arabic School taught math! Wonderful! Really sad that they don't teach good english, only "mimor" miracles.

But what "senior " maths is "hard number", more than neccessary for engineering, close to a honours degree in Mathematics AND can be taught at ile-kewu (arabic school). I thought the main course in those schools were "beating 101", "bang your head 211" and "recitation 495".

Now, thats Miraculous!

@Aletheia:

Better mind yourself - this is hard number. Stop being proud. Columbia teaches musicians recitation, hang bombs around their necks and they become doctors - they can perform surgical operations with machetes and decapacitate in 1 wrist flick 

Jesus Is LORD

ps: "elementary" ile-kewu maths proves that 9/8 = 8/8 = 100%. How? Cos I said so, damnit! Quiet or I'll bring my cutlass.

Ah Vescucci, behold - said "deludee" ^^^

Let theiving MoGs' prosper financially on earth and get their reward from followers - they have no reward from God.

@Sagamite:

Chuksxp was innocent. The guilty are now here

^^ Maybe the criticism is because those "fellow" theists prefer truth to cultism and honor to a "US versus THEM" mentality.

Mad_Max:

After your last three posts, I wonder if I have the nerve to type the following. I'll just cross my fingers and log out instanta.

Truth is, I never thought about it. That said, I personally believe there is only one reality - God and that all of us etc are minor portions of that existence. Its the only reason I can find for the (to God) seeming importance of your fellow man and he is important, as I trust you know. Returning to the biblical story of Eden and considering the idea of God coming down to be with the man in the evenings, I feel a desire for something outside of humanity to share with humanity. To achieve that, I believe we come across what Christians refer to as "1 in 3".

But this is just a personal feeling and I sincerely hope it won't be held against me particularly by DS.

See you all next millenia (if Mad_max doesn't take the spanner to me)

^^^ N o p e !

Got better things to do --> sleep, watch tv, eat, drink water, pee, read, take a walk, myriad stuff! And all more fulfilling and profitable.

Basically then -

[1] Fela sold tickets to his show at 10 "pa" per head.
[2] Many people wanted to watch Abami-Eda but couldn't afford his tickets
[3] They stampeded, broke down security and watched the show free
[4] Fela's intended customers lost the chance to be "manouvered"
[5] Fela's show thus, was a flop
[6] But Fela didn't lose - the cost was on his band members. Praise the Lord!

Next!

aletheia:
^^Really. Some more obfuscation. Don't you just love the logic of maths. Your question above just proves my point! Here is the solution using elementary maths.

So your farmer would buy 1 cow, 5 horses and 94 chickens, spending exactly $100 to get exactly 100 animals. Proving the point that starting with one pie you will get one pie when all of the slices are added together. However according to the guidelines in your qur'an (defying all laws of mathematics):

When a man dies, and is leaving behind three daughters, his two parents and his wife, they will receive the respective shares of 2/3 for the 3 daughters together, 1/3 for the parents together [both according to verse 4:11] and 1/8 for the wife [4:12] which adds up to [size=13pt]2/3 + 1/3 + 1/8 = 9/8 (greater than 1).[/size]

A second example: A man leaves only his mother, his wife and two sisters, then they receive 1/3 [mother, 4:11], 1/4 [wife, 4:12] and 2/3 [the two sisters, 4:176], which again adds up to [size=13pt]1/3 + 1/4 + 2/3 = 15/12[/size] of the available property.

The neutral observers will note how you went outside the qur'an to try to explain it's illogical maths.

Please 1 + 1 in maths = 2 always, not sometimes.

A "mighty " problem handled with elementary maths (according to the solver)

aletheia:
^^^Is it every "Christian" that defends them?

Are the people who defend them "Christians" or just claiming to be christians?

@Mad_Max:

Sorry but I lost my concentration and stopped following this thread for awhile. Just saw your question in post 194. Do you still want an answer?

All this long story just to run away from truth hoping nobody will see it?

Anyway, thank you for the no Controversy - [size=14pt]Jesus is God[/size]!

@aletheia, you are about to have mail