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Goshen360: So are you saying God created the earth like that? in the absence of light in the beginning? Is this what you are saying?

If you have something to say go ahead and say it, the bible says there was darkness first then he called forth light. You like asking questions like a principal jare.

Darkness is the absence of light. There was no light in the beginning.

Goshen360: Thank you jare my sister. At least we will all learn. I believe "IN" God there is no darkness as per the verse you quoted from Joagbaje's comment. Now my question is, in Genesis 1:2. The bible says, ....and darkness was upon the face of the deep". God had not created anything at this time. My question is, where did this darkness came from?

Words mean different things according to the usage in scriptures. In Genesis there was darkness like NEPA took light kind of darkness,so God created light so we can see. Then darkness also mean also evil, the kingdom of Satan is called the kingdom of darkness. So what we are discussing in this thread is not just mere darkness.

Goshen360: Sister Nuella,

Shey I fit ask kweshion ma?

Go ahead sir.

Joagbaje: That's a nice question . If the devil has his way, he will kill everybody. But Gods spirit and the church is a restraining force on the earth. If evil takes place, it's either God covering or restrain is removed. Then the devil has his way. Other times people walk out of blessings in God . God is a good God.

1 John 1:5
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Very true. There is no darkness with God.

musKeeto: hey... cool down lady, don't aruge with SCRIPTURES? ask una oga, JoAgbaje..

Am asking you cos you quoted those verses? Of God bringing disaster. ....

Are you operating on just the revelation Isaiah had about God?

What is the revelation of who God is in the new testament?

You are implying that God is both a wicked and Good God that can kill and destroy anybody at will weda you do wrong or right. And he takes pleasure in disaster. ...no a thousand times no.

musKeeto: If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble? If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? (Amos 3:6, NASB)

I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things. (Isaiah 45:7, NIV)

If Boko Haran bombs a church is it God that has done it? Was it God that has attacked them?

[quote author=Joagbaje]God does not give people sickness. It's the devil that afflicts people. Sin do open a person up for satanic affliction.

Luke 13:16
And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day?
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very true when you break the hedge a serpent will bite.

where is oladegbu? I need clarification on this matter.

lol.

Am not available oooooo

@Harakiri

We are not in the same class, you are a man with blind eyes.

Like I said we don't speak the same language, you can't just decode my language.

I will wait for my kind to come so we can talk sense.

A prominent Edo public figure has been assassinated. Prophecy fulfilled.

Lol..... I know who I am, what you say don't count.

The truth is understanding scriptures is beyond how many times you have read the bible. A man with a dead spirit cannot understand the bible cos its spiritually discerned. The eyes of your understanding has to be enlightened. The bible is not just letters, the letter kills.

Lions are sons of God. Goats are fools that say there is no God. They speak different languages, one spiritual the other natural. I spoke in parables, it was a perfect illustration.
If you like become a prof in theology, the letter kills. Until your spirit becomes Alive to God, what you have is mere literature knowledge and not revelation knowledge. Its like CNN news no life and power, its information.
Sorry I don't know how to pamper your type but the bitter truth.

They have to be richer than Jesus na, the reason he suffered was so we can be rich but the riches he gave us is more than money and houses. Its abundance life, a life of dominion, its eternal life. A place of completeness in Christ, that we occupy.

Maybe you should read my post. Am not talking about men that are influential in this world. My definition is being rich is not according to this world. A man that is not born again may look rich man but he is poor before God.

Am not talking about getting an escape out of trouble cos your rich,there are consequences in wrong doing. Ibori
stole and he needs to pay for it.

Jesus didn't use a jeep but he got most of what he wanted at the time he needs it. A rich man can take a bike or trek that has not changed his status.

I born again man has the potential to have all he needs. Through grace and knowledge. He ought not to be helpless.

The point is Jesus may not have lived in a mansion but he didn't live a beggarly and helpless life.

@Hakiri

When lions are talking goats don't understand. They don't speak the same language. Your mess Dey smell for this thread Abeg comet for my front. You know nothing about Jesus cos you don't believe in him the last time I checked.

Goshen360: ^
But this is the poor we are talking about. We all know he was rich in the things of the Spirit. How is he not poor in material things?

A rich man can get what he wants at the time he needs it, when Jesus needed to to feed five thousand people, without going to borrow from the bank he met that need, when he was to use a donkey he got it, Abi to pay tax e pay am.

He was independent of circumstances, he was never helpless materially or financially.

A poor man is disabled, he can't pay his children's school fees, can't feed,rent etc. A man may not have physical cash but he is rich cos he can get what he needs without necessarily having cash.

My point is Jesus becoming poor was not about earthly poverty. And what he delivered to us is not just about prosperity . There is more......

I no fit laugh. .....

soft spoken ke...when you marry her you will come and give testimony of how the voice have become hard.

what is your purpose in life? what kind of lady will help you in fulfilling that divine calling is what you should look out for.

Marriage ought to be purpose driven and dream fulfilling.

musKeeto: God loves the winners, made these schemers mad yet those that planted the bombs at Madalla on his son's birthday are free... GREAT GOD!!!! keep ON HATING haters.. The annointing on Papa's life is wonderfull....

What is your point?

Many Christians may die in an automobile crash and just one Christian may survive. The just share live by faith, a man's ignorance is his limitation in life. God hears when we pray, we can change a lot of things when we pray.

So many lives were still delivered by God in Madalla don't forget that.

A poor man is helpless, Jesus was not. His becoming poor is not about earthly currencies and estates.

Joagbaje: Nuella

Are you there?



I just re read your post again . Can you be clearer on it?

I thought my post was self explanatory.

Goshen why don't you answer his question since he has answered your own.

Make ona take am easy oooo. Nairaland police is on guard.

Hello Jo, good evening.

This your friends don't get what your trying to communicate, the motives and thoughts is what makes it sin. If not no Christian will masturbate under any circumstance weda medically. But this is simple to understand na.

Husband write one cheque to clear her debts na, you should have plenty money since you don't give like your wife .....you should have saved plenty for wifey up keep.

Thank you God2man,for a very enlightening thread.

Whosoever calls upon the name of the lord shall be saved, when you open the door of your heart he will come and make his abode in you. Just invite him by saying this prayer from the depth of your heart.

Dear lord God, I call on you today cos I believe that Jesus died for my sins,therefore today I confess with my mouth that you are lord of my life. Thank you for saving me, thank you for eternal life in the spirit. In Jesus name. Amen.

That prayer will catapult a man from darkness to light. You are born again meaning life has come to your spirit. Just grow in the knowledge of God, as to know who you are in Christ now. Congratulations.

Great thread.

Can't we pray and change prophecies especially danger. Why do some prophets dwell more on confirmation, I thought prophecies are warnings, meaning even the prophets should not just wait for them to happen but pray and fast if possible to avert it. Is the office of the prophet just declaring what must happen?

Jesus did not turn water to wine everyday, neither did he walk on water every time he was traveling on water.

Thanks Goshen,

Carnal Christians are the ones that loves division is the body of Christ, like am holier than thou attitude, we are better than them,we are growing faster than them, am for appolos and you are for Paul nonsense. That is Carnality, a spiritual man will always walk in love and protect the church of Christ.

We should love each the body and not destroy even if we can correct each other in love and prayers. The test of spirituality is walking in love and faith.

Thank youk so much, will appreciate it if you throw more light on different kind of witchcraft later sir.

Thank you Mabel,Goshen and Joagbaje

I think Rebellion can be used for a Christian, I personally don't think that word is too hard, talking of witchcraft, we have them in churches churches, those group of people are they just merely sense ruled? Is rebellion not caused by a demon? apart from just been sense ruled.

And does that mean no Christian can be called spiritual since most Christians still make mistakes from time to time. Are there level of sins that make you carnal.