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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 9:41pm On Aug 09, 2018



Looks worse than Aba grin grin
How come Kenyans never told us about this city before.. wink

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 9:37pm On Aug 09, 2018
Pictures of Kisii, Kenya



Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 9:31pm On Aug 09, 2018
Kur17:


Hahaa ;DDon't u see shocked" Kisii" and "Abuja" there grin

kisii is ugly... Abuja is wayyy better... That comparison doesn't even make sense
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 9:27pm On Aug 09, 2018
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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 9:22pm On Aug 09, 2018
Kur17:

Nice place like Kisii town of Western Kenya

No, she said something in swahili like "Abuja is a problem".. something like that...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 8:48pm On Aug 09, 2018
BabiiKE:
Hehehe, hii abuja inafanana kisii

What do u mean?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 8:43pm On Aug 09, 2018
Kur17:


The problem with Lagos,Abuja just like Dar is that all major or landmark buildings belongs to the government... and they're telling us they have a stronger private sector

In Abuja, yes landmark buildings will be government owned.. but not the case of Lagos... Because Abuja is the Capital of Nigeria and it's a new city.

Here are some buildings in Lagos(not goverment owned)



Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 6:55pm On Aug 09, 2018
TayserMahiri:


How would you know when the games are played in SA? You are in Nigeria grin Its clear SA takes special care to ensure whoever they want in power in Abuja does so.

Thanks for letting Nigerians know... wink

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 6:24pm On Aug 09, 2018
TayserMahiri:


They influence your elections my friend! Did you read that part? You are like pawns to SA.

grin grin grin grin
Nigerians, South Africa influences our elections...
I hope South Africa gives us a good candidate next yr

cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 6:19pm On Aug 09, 2018
TayserMahiri:


MTN has only paid half of the fine as at 2018, which was actually reduced after the ANC govt overbore on your govt. The fine had nothing to do with South African domination. They will still recoup it from your market anyway so if anything it only strengthened their resolve to milk you more. What would you do without SA companies anyway? Most of the goods/services they provide you wouldnt be having them.

Lol... You realize if MTN leaves, Glo(nigerian telecoms) will take over its customers... or the other competitors in the market(9mobile, Airtel... and so on)
Banking... we can do with out them... manufacturing... we do with out them... construction... we do with out them... entertainment... we do without them..

The only sector i would say Nigeria could hardly get by without SA is formal retail(shoprite) but that's changing, more indigenous retailers are popping up

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 6:09pm On Aug 09, 2018
TayserMahiri:


MTN has only paid half of the fine as at 2018, which was actually reduced after the ANC govt overbore on your govt. The fine had nothing to do with South African domination. They will still recoup it from your market anyway so if anything it only strengthened their resolve to milk you more. What would you do without SA companies anyway? Most of the goods/services they provide you wouldnt be having them.

Lol... You realize if MTN leaves, Glo(nigerian telecoms) will take over its customers... or the other competitors in the market(9mobile, Airtel... and so on)
Banking... we can do with out them... manufacturing... we do with out them... construction... we do with out them... entertainment... we do without them...

The only sector i would say Nigeria could hardly get by without SA is formal retail(shoprite) but that's changing, more indigenous retailers are popping up

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 1:48pm On Aug 09, 2018
kikuyu1:


Words,words,words! Why do you think I or any Kenyan would never argue with Morocco,Algeria,RSA or Bots? trust me if this was about say Namibia and not the 'Giant,' I'd have deleted my 'net presence and vanished long ago! Dangoteland is a delusional dwarf which is what the consumption data conclusively shows. Btw,most of your Muslims are actually moderate southerners and IIRC one of them even said Muslims can drink.

Yes they're muslims in the South but majority of them are in the North... In the North they have sharia law that bans the drinking of alcohol.. They also have sharia police

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 12:08am On Aug 09, 2018
kikuyu1:


This topic is REALLY REALLY NOT FOR YOU! If you can't understand HDI metrics how will you begin to discuss soldier spend per capita, comparison of working platforms,no of said operational platforms etc etc that go into any military comparison?

Go to the military thread and ask which country ranks better militarily, Kenya or Nigeria... u might sound stupid though..
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 12:03am On Aug 09, 2018
Kur17:


Yes in population...but I hope you know what happened to your last national census, and it's the same thing that happened to your GDP estimations, manipulation

Even if Nigeria's GDP and population are supposedly manipulated, those figures would still be bigger than Kenya's... Am i wrong?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 11:54pm On Aug 08, 2018
gallivant:


When you come to Kenya you don't see mtn, shop rite, castle beer etc. That's where we got the idea. grin

Just answer this question...
Do you believe Kenya has a stronger/bigger private sector than Nigeria?

rvp2018
rvp2017
rvp
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 11:51pm On Aug 08, 2018
Kur17:


These folks are out of this world

smaller countries tend to have bigger gdp per capita, higher standards of living.. For example Switzerland and USA... Switzerland has a higher standard of living(hdi) and gdp per capita than America... Switzerland has a much smaller population...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 11:48pm On Aug 08, 2018
Yobeezy:


Your huge population is the cause of your own problems,no wonder there's a big income disparity between the rich and the poor.

The only known Nigerian multinational companies are some of your banks the likes of eco bank and the rest,those banks aren't such that viable in other countries like here in Kenya due to stiff competition from our local banks and the mobile money technology.

Kenya too has multinational companies like banks for example equity which run its operations in eastern and central Africa,so nothing spectacular with this multinational thing.

Like i said Nigeria has more multinational companies on the continent than Kenya... Certainly South Africa's might/economic prosperity is proved through its numerous companies on the continent
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 11:46pm On Aug 08, 2018
TayserMahiri:
South Africa's Nigerian slaves.

South Africa has joined the older imperial powers in looting Nigeria’s resources and dominating its economy in just a decade.

South Africa has played an intimate role in the recent Nigerian elections. Despite what the ANC government claims, South Africa’s foreign policy towards Africa is not based on Pan-Africanism or anti-imperialism; it is rather based on promoting South Africa’s expanding business interests on the continent. In reality, the South African state’s interests, in both the domestic and African arena, have become fused with those South Africa’s capitalist elite. The ruling party in Nigeria has served the South African capital and the state’s interests well. It has facilitated the process whereby South Africa has become a major economic player in Nigeria in only 8 years.

From the very start, the recent Nigerian elections, which saw Olusegun Obasanjo placing his hand picked successor, Umaru Yar’ Adua, into the Presidential palace, were mired in controversy. The ballot papers for the election, which were printed in South Africa, contained no counter foils or serial numbers – features which would have made vote rigging difficult. In fact, only 40 million ballot papers were even printed; this for an election where over 65 million people had registered to vote [1]. To make matters worse, only 30% of these ballot papers were ever sent to Nigeria; the rest remained lying in a warehouse in Johannesburg on day of the elections [2]. Of the ballot papers that were sent to Nigeria, most were rushed off to areas that were and are strongholds of Obasanjo’s and Yar’ Adua’s ruling party, the People’s Democratic Party. In contrast, areas where there was strong opposition to the government, such as the Niger Delta, did not receive enough ballot papers. On the day of the election, independent observers noted that vote rigging and fraud were rife. Yar’ Adua supporters were even seen stuffing fraudulent ballot papers into ballot boxes at voter stations across the county [3]. Intimidation of opposition supporters was also widespread. In fact, over 200 people, mainly members of the opposition parties, were murdered in the run up to the elections [4]. This situation that led most independent observers to declare the elections deeply flawed.

The South African government, however, had a very different view of the elections. Spearheaded by Thabo Mbeki, it came out and said the elections had been free and fair. Indeed, South Africa was the first country to congratulate and offer support to the ruling party’s candidate, Yar’ Adua, on ‘winning’ the elections [5]. Immediately following this, he was invited to Tshwane to have a personal congratulatory meeting with Thabo Mbeki. The question is: why would the South African government fall over itself to congratulate Yar’ Adua on ‘winning’ an election that was so clearly rigged? The answer to this question lies in South Africa’s policy towards Africa, in the form of New Partnership for Africa’s Development (NEPAD), the relationship that it has with the ruling party in Nigeria, and the expansionist agenda that South African corporations and parastatals have in Nigeria.


South Africa’s bi-lateral interventions in Nigeria

Prior to 1999, South Africa had a poor political relationship with Nigeria. At the time, Nigeria was ruled by a military junta that was politically hostile towards South Africa. This, however, dramatically changed with the end of the military government and the election of the People’s Democratic Party’s leader, Obasanjo, as the Nigerian president in 1999. From that point on, the South African state built a strong, but unequal relationship with the People’s Democratic Party government under the leadership of Obasanjo and Yar’ Adua. This relationship was also helped by the fact that Thabo Mbeki had formed a strong friendship with Obasanjo and Yar’ Adua when he was in exile in Nigeria from 1976 to 1979 [10].


In October 1999, a South Africa-Nigeria Bi-National Commission was also established by the South African and Nigerian governments. The Bi-National Commission has been meeting twice a year ever since, and aims to increase the amount of trade and investment between South Africa and Nigeria. The Deputy Presidents of South Africa and Nigeria head up the commission. Representatives from all government departments attend the meetings along with top South African business people. At the meetings, trade and investment opportunities in Nigeria are identified and plans are put in place so that they can be realised. In this way, many deals that have proved very lucrative for South African companies and parastatals have been facilitated through the Bi-National Commission.

All of the above measures have been extremely valuable in furthering South Africa’s business interests in Nigeria. Indeed, the South African state has used its diplomatic power and the relationship that it has with the Nigerian government to assist South African corporations and parastatals to become big players in the Nigerian economy.

South African corporations and parastatals have become big players in Nigeria

Prior to 1999, there were only 4 South African companies operating in Nigeria [17]. This situation has dramatically changed with the assistance of the South African state, and the signing of bi-lateral agreements and the establishment of a Bi-National Commission. Today there are now over 100 South African companies doing business in Nigeria [18]. Within a mere 8 years, South African companies have become major players in almost every sector of Nigerian economy.

The biggest investment by South African companies in Nigeria has been in the telecommunications sector. In 2001, MTN was awarded a license by the Nigerian government to operate a cell phone network in the country. In return, MTN had to pay licensing fees of over US $ 285 million. Added to this, MTN has spent a further US $ 1 billion on setting up its operations in Nigeria [19]. Currently, MTN is the largest cellular network company in Nigeria and has over 10 million subscribers [20]. This has seen MTN making massive profits in the country. In 2004 alone, MTN recorded an after tax profit of over R 2.4 billion in Nigeria [21]. Such profits have led other South African telecommunications companies to also set up shop in Nigeria in a bid to get a piece of the very lucrative pie. This year, Telkom announced that it was buying Multilinks, which operates a wireless network in Nigeria, for US $ 200 million [22].

South African companies have also become dominant in Nigeria’s construction sector. Entech, a Stellenbosch based engineering company, headed a consortium of South African companies that were awarded a tender worth R 2.1 billion from the Lagos State government to redevelop the Bar Beach and Victoria Island area outside of Lagos. The idea is to turn the area into a complex akin to the V&A Waterfront [23]. Another South African construction firm, Group Five, was awarded a R 585 million deal to build a power station in Nigeria for the Ibom Power company [24].

Many large South African companies have also invaded the tourism and leisure sector in Nigeria. Under NEPAD, the South African parastatal, the Industrial Development Corporation (IDC) has become one of the largest investors in Nigeria’s tourist sector. To date it has invested over US $ 1.4 billion in tourism and telecommunications ventures in Nigeria [25]. Another major player in the tourism sector is the South African company Bidvest. Through its subsidiary, Tourvest, it has purchased one of the biggest tourism companies in Nigeria, Touchdown Travel. The biggest development in the Nigerian tourism sector, however, is the massive Tinapa Project in the Cross River State. This project falls under the auspices of NEPAD and has the full backing of the South African and Nigerian governments. The project entails the construction of a massive entertainment complex, consisting of 4 shopping centres, 5 bulk warehouses, 4 hotels, and a casino, and is set to cost over US $ 300 million [26]. The major stakeholders in this development are South African companies, such as the Standard Bank, Tsogo Sun, Broll, Johncom and Southern Sun. Indeed, the centre pieces of this development will be a 300 room hotel owned by Southern Sun and a casino owned by Tsogo Sun. Another South African company, Broll, will be the leasing agents of the complex. The South African state has provided direct assistance to these companies so that they can carry out this project. Indeed, the state owned IDC has provided finance, and has underwritten these companies’ investments in this project.

In the Nigerian retail sector, South African companies also loom large. Massmart and Shoprite have opened a number of stores in Nigeria. Added to this, Johncom has established a number of stores selling books, CDs and DVDs in Nigeria [27]. A number of South African companies have also entered into the fast food business, including Famous Brands, St Elmo’s and Nandos. In fact, South African companies control almost 50% of the international fast food franchising industry in Nigeria, and have out competed companies from both the European Union and the United States. Considering that the fast food industry in Nigeria is worth over US $ 2.5 billion a year, this control over the fast food franchising business in Nigeria has meant that South African companies have made super profits 28]. The South African property management group, Broll, has also landed a deal to manage 594 retail fuel stations across Nigeria [29]. This deal too is worth millions of dollars.

South African companies are also heavily involved in Nigeria’s media and entertainment sector. DSTV is a major force in the television industry and accounts for 90% of the viewers that watch satellite TV in Nigeria [30]. This has seen DSTV growing into the sixth largest company listed on the Lagos Stock Exchange. Johncom has also eagerly entered into the Nigerian entertainment sector. It has established cinema complexes throughout Nigeria. One of these cinema complexes, in Lagos, cost US $ 40 million dollars to develop [31]. Along with this, Johncom has purchased one of the largest daily newspapers in Nigeria, Business Day [32]. South Africa’s parastatals have also ventured into the entertainment industry. For example, Arivia.com was provided with a contract worth R 140 million by the Nigerian government to assist with the running of that country’s lottery.

Since adopting NEPAD, the Nigerian state has been accelerating the privatisation process in the country. South African parastatals have been one of the major beneficiaries of this process. Indeed, through its parastatals, the South African state has become directly involved in accumulating capital in Nigeria. For example, as part of the move towards privatisation, the Nigerian government provided Umgeni Water with R 350 million contract to manage Port Harcourt’s water services for 3 years. At the moment, this contract could possibly be extended to 20 years [33]. If it is extended, it would be a massive money-spinner for Umgeni Water and the South African state.

As part of the privatisation of the energy sector, the Nigerian government allowed the state owned ESKOM to buy a 51% stake in the Nigerian Electric Power Authority (NEPA). With this, ESKOM received contracts worth US $ 165 million from the Nigerian government. Eskom has also entered into a partnership with Shell in Nigeria to upgrade and operate gas powered power stations. The Nigerian government has granted Eskom and Shell a US $ 540 million contract to operate power stations in Port Harcourt [34]. It is very interesting that ESKOM, a company owned by the South African state, wished to enter into a partnership with Shell considering Shell’s appalling human rights and environmental record in Nigeria. Indeed, Shell has destroyed the environment of the Niger Delta and has been directly responsible for over 3 000 oil spills in that area since 1976. Added to this, Shell, along with the Nigerian government, has been implicated in the murder of over 2 000 activists in the Niger Delta since the 1980s [35]. Clearly, the South African government and ESKOM are not interested in this; what they are interested in, however, is profit.

Prior to 1999, the Nigerian government awarded all of the oil concessions in the country to companies from the United States, the United Kingdom, France and Italy. As a result, companies from the Northern imperial powers dominated Nigeria’s oil sector. After 1999, this situation began to change, in part because of the close relationship that the new Nigerian government had, and has, with the South African government. Companies from the Northern imperial powers, although still dominant, no longer have a complete monopoly over the oil concessions in Nigeria; companies from South Africa, China and India have also got a piece of the action. One of the first actions of Obasanjo’s government in 1999 was to award the South African state the right to market 50 000 barrels of Nigerian oil a day. In 2003, Thabo Mbeki intervened to ensure that this was increased to 120 000 barrels of oil a day. However, the South African government has selected to pass on the rights to market this oil to a shadowy company, the South African Oil Company, which is registered in the Cayman Islands. The South African Oil Company in the Cayman Islands is 70% owned by a Nigerian-American businessman, Jakes Lawal. Who owns the other 30%, however, is a mystery [36]. Indeed, the Cayman Island law system protects the identity of the shareholders that own the other 30%. Lawal, however, has close connections with leading ANC figures. In fact, the Mail and Guardian, reported that rumours have been circulating that the ANC directly benefited from this deal. Indeed, it is interesting that the Cayman Island’s South African Oil Company also has a sister company registered in South Africa. It is perhaps no co-incidence that some of the shareholders in this sister company happen to be leading ANC figures. These shareholders are:

• Nomusa Mufamadi, wife of Sydney Mufamadi
• Hintsa Siwisa, brother-in-law of the Eastern Cape Premier
• Miles Nzama, leading figure in the ANC Fundraising Trust
• and Brian Casey, a confidant of Penuell Maduna [37]

Other, more genuine South African companies have also enjoyed receiving oil concessions from the Nigerian government. Ophir Energy, owned by Tokyo Sexwale’s Mvelephanda Resources, has been given the right to drill for oil in several blocks in Nigeria. This is bound to add to Ophir’s current value of over R 14 billion [38]. The parastatal PetroSA has also been given the right to drill in a number of oil blocks. Added to this, PetroSA owns Brass Exploration Unlimited in Nigeria. Through this company, PetroSA and the South African state have a 40% interest in the Abana oilfield off the Nigerian coast. Currently, the Abana oilfield is producing 22 000 barrels of oil a day [39]. Some South African companies have also entered into partnerships with well established multinational oil companies operating in Nigeria. For example, SASOL has entered into a 50/50 partnership with Chevron to develop a gas to fuel plant at Chevron’s Escravos oil terminal [40]. This plant will cost US $ 1.3 billion and is planned to come on line this year [41]. It will initially produce 33 000 barrels of fuel a day, but this will be increased to as much as 120 000 barrels a day over the next 10 years [42]. A number of South African firms have also become involved in providing services to the oil multinationals in Nigeria. Most notably, Grinaker established an oil-rig fabrication yard in Port Harcourt in 2000. It assembles and services the oil rigs that multinational oil companies use in the Niger Delta at that facility [43].

The Nigerian people have not benefited from South Africa’s expanding investment

[b]Despite all this investment, the people of Nigeria have not benefited. This is partly because South African corporations operating in Nigeria are allowed to repatriate the profits that they make out of Nigeria. Added to this, many of Nigeria’s economic sectors have become completely foreign owned, which has had negative implications for the country’s sovereignty. The majority of South African corporations also source most of the products that they use or sell in Nigeria through South Africa and not locally. This means they operate in an enclave and do not promote the creation of up stream or down stream industries in Nigeria. South African companies operating in Nigeria have also created very few jobs. The jobs that they have created have tended to be casual. At many South African owned companies in Nigeria, workers have been denied the right to join trade unions [44]. For example, despite its massive profits, MTN has only created 500 permanent jobs. Most of its employees are casual or temporary workers, and it has denied all of its workers the right to join a trade union [45].[/b]

South African companies have also been involved in blatant profiteering and looting in Nigeria. Indeed, MTN charges the highest rates in the world for cellular phone calls in Nigeria [46]. Along with this, some South African companies have implemented heavy handed tactics to recover revenue owed to them by Nigerian consumers [47]. In fact, ESKOM/NEPA has hired 10 South African companies to collect the debt that it was, and is, owed by Nigerian consumers . Some South African companies have even been involved in, or were complacent in, human rights abuses in Nigeria. For example, in 2005 there was a community protest outside of the Escravos oil terminal where Chevron and SASOL are establishing their gas to fuel plant. Representatives of these companies at the Escravos oil terminal called in Nigerian security forces to break up the demonstration. On arrival, the Nigerian forces opened fire on the crowd, killing one person and injuring a further 30. Some of the protesters were then severely beaten with rifle butts and other weapons. Added to this, access to the healthcare facilities at the Escravos terminal was denied to the injured protesters. The result was that it took several hours for the injured protesters to find their way to a hospital [48].

Conclusion

From the above, it is clear that the ruling party in Nigeria has served the South African capital and the state’s interests well. It has facilitated the process whereby South Africa has become a major economic player in Nigeria in only 8 years. Indeed, South Africa has joined the older imperial powers in looting Nigeria’s resources and dominating its economy.

https://www.pambazuka.org/governance/south-africa%E2%80%99s-role-nigeria-and-nigerian-elections

https://allafrica.com/stories/201603090499.html

Yet Nigeria fined MTN 5.2 billion dollars... and other South African companies have been threatened since the xenophobic attacks on Nigerians in South Africa
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 6:53pm On Aug 08, 2018
Yobeezy:


If Nigeria is more oil rich than Kenya,why is it that it's hosting poverty capital in the world?

Having the richest person on the continent doesn't necessitate that Nigeria has a stronger private sector than any other countries in Africa.
Kenya too has a stronger private sector in which some black kenyan tycoons plays a big role in owning and running them.
Most of them are regional tycoons to the extent that they've extended their big private investment to our neighbour nations within east and central Africa?

Which multinationals are you talking about when Nigeria lags behind Kenya in FDI?
Even your country has failed to host the regional headquarters of prominent multinational companies like Google.

Google,Cisco IBM are all world's senior tech firms and have all established their regional headquarters in Nairobi.
Very soon HUAWEI giant tech firm will follow the suit to set up their regional headquarters in Nairobi.

You're clealry confused... You can have a rich government/country but a poor population ie corruption...Nigeria's large poor population comes from its huge population.. btw Nigeria has a bigger middle class than Kenya

I mentioned that Nigerian companies are more multinational than Kenyan companies... undecided undecided wasn't referring to [b]foreign[/b]companies..
It's obvious Nigeria has a stronger/bigger private sector than Kenya... The data is there

BTW Nigeria has just received the free wifi from Google... one of the few countries in the world

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 5:20pm On Aug 07, 2018
gallivant:


Soft power? Nobody likes Nigerians in Africa
Military power? Yes, tell that to boko Jaramillo

...size of the bite....

Nigeria's entertainment sector dominates Africa from Nollywood to Afrobeats.. soft power
No one likes Americans yet they dominate movies and music worldwide..

If Nigeria and Kenya were to go to war, no one would even doubt Nigeria would win

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 5:12pm On Aug 07, 2018
gallivant:


It's not the size of the dog that matters, it's the size of the bite. Case in point, Kenya and Nigeria or Kenya and Tanzania. It's all about the bite Annael. wink

let's see... which country has more soft power... Nigeria
Which country ranks better in military power... Nigeria
...size of the bite

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 5:07pm On Aug 07, 2018
Kur17:

The two rats in the name of TZ &Nigeria have to join efforts to take the big cat(lion of Africa)

Lion of Africa(Big cat) with a 80 billion dollar economy...
What's ur gdp per capita(ppp) again??

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 5:00pm On Aug 07, 2018
gallivant:


Nope, just delusional like the rest of Nigerians.

And just like international official bodies...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 4:56pm On Aug 07, 2018
gallivant:




Can't you hear the SCREAMS OF LAUGHTER?

Am i lying??
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 4:52pm On Aug 07, 2018
kikuyu1:


If you must insist make it 30 bn$ while you're at it! Here;s the thing,my dude. We,by which I mean men mature males who look at data and use logic to interpret data and see the whole picture see Dangoteland as the 'Giant.' We see the bare facts like this critical metrics on road standards where you're holding up the table with the likes of Sierra leone and Chad,GODDAMMIT,HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN!?

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/7522899_img20180803113013057_jpeg3cc912405c96e324286dcb834e78ff11

Here's another extremely valid data set confirming as important as steel/oil/sugar revealing a country's real development level and living standards especially in Africa,where we all eat meat,whenever we can. The stats I have are old,but important in that they're off your 'pre recession',imo,proving beyond doubt the smoke and mirrors of your economy were shown to be nothing but BS.

Meat consumption per capita 2002 2009

Kenya 14.3 kg 16.7 kg

Dangoteland 8.6 kg 8.8 kg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

How is this possible,Genius? Maybe your Ind....s are wayyyy more than you admit or know? Ohh,wait,I know! You're a tall dwarf deluded into thinking you're a Giant! I swear,your projection is actually beneficial cause you never hear everyone's SCREAMS OF LAUGHTER!!

Anyone else,let me specify request a thinking poster,feel free to unpack this figure for further discussion.

While you're ranting, international official bodies recognize Nigeria as the biggest economy in Africa...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 4:44pm On Aug 07, 2018
Kur17:


Both Nigeria and TZ are sh!‡holes, TZ is like a virgin land while Nigeria is like a ground zero of Armageddon, meaning TZ has a brighter potentially than a doomed dead giant


Kenya's also a shithole..
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 2:53pm On Aug 07, 2018
Jay254:


If you had brains Nigeria would be the one constructing, but your stupidity wont allow you.

So morrocco??

What do you mean?? both countries(Nigeria and Morocco) will have to pay for the pipeline...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 12:25am On Aug 07, 2018
Just30:
your N Gas will collapse if Ghana stops buying their gas
that is how far your country is dependent on Ghana to keep it revenue stream flowing

That's why N gas officials are all over Ghana begging that we don't abandon their gas fro Equatorial Guinea
Poor country like Nigeria

Bro get ur data right... Nigeria is the 4th largest exporter of LNG(Liquefied Natural Gas) in the world. It doesn't depend on Ghana for revenue lol. Besides, Morocco is in talks with Nigeria to construct a gas pipeline from Nigeria to Morocco and probably to Europe...
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 2:06am On Jul 28, 2018
Yobeezy:


Nigerians should also stop this cheap idiotism of forcing to compare themselves with other rapid developing nations in Africa by creating stupid country comparison threads.

We're also not at your class neither because you're too way above us most bad news in the continent.
Nigeria is an example of a shithole nation,if you remove oil from its economy,it will collapse..

And sorry to say, but both Nigeria and Kenya are shithole nations... Nigeria's just richer and bigger, Kenya is less corrupt and much smaller

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 2:05am On Jul 28, 2018
Yobeezy:


Nigerians should also stop this cheap idiotism of forcing to compare themselves with other rapid developing nations in Africa by creating stupid country comparison threads.

We're also not at your class neither because you're too way above us most bad news in the continent.
Nigeria is an example of a shithole nation,if you remove oil from its economy,it will collapse..

oil only contributes 10% to Nigeria's economy/GDP
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 12:16am On Jul 28, 2018
check out this video of Lagos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM8zIc-GR64
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by nwoke39: 3:15am On Jul 24, 2018
Jayceon:
I'm not surprised,a microscopic brain like yours can't comprehend wink

lo cheesy cheesy :Dl... u clearly don't understand pidgin... he complimented you

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