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Ok so let me spice it a little I see Some of you are associating the Term or name Nephilim to mean " giants" based on their descriptions in Numbers 13:33.
But is that what Nephilim really means? Nephilim comes from the Hebrew word Nephal or napal which basically means to fall or the fallen ones..

Let this simmer and then we would move on..I have realized due to lack of understanding of the scriptures it is better to go step by step with people than writing an epistle Cus then people lose the meaning of what you are trying to convey..

Goshen360: Gat you bro. Funny though However, the people believed the sons of God in Gen. 6:2-4 were fallen angels. That is what we are treating and looking at. I don't also believe they are fallen angels in the context of Gen.6:2-4 but children of God who pervert themselves as you mentioned in your example (perfect example though) because the sons of God in that context don't carry the nature of the daughters of men meaning the sons of God in that context are people of God who carry the nature of God in them because they now know God.

Because if they were fallen angels that mate with daughters of men to produce "giants", and after that was the flood, then were did another "giants"
came from during the accounts of the spies sent to spy the Canaan Land? If they were fallen angels that produced giants, and the flood wiped them out, there will be no more mention of giants anymore in the account of the spies.

@Buzugee nice breakdown but where I disagree is alluding to the sons of God been from Seth line and daughter of men from Cain's line
.. the ‘daughters of men’ can hardly be restricted to only the daughters of the Cainites.

@ Goshen The sons of God as used in that context just means angels. I will see if I can connect everything for you tomorow. It's been a long day and I have to head home but I will leave you with these two quotes concerning sons of God for you to ponder on..

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, Satan also came among them (Job 1:6).

Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came among them to present himself before the Lord (Job 2:1)

^^^^Lol you is a funny guy man.. He is alright man most people just misunderstand certain things about the bible but they are usually the ones always first to attack.. We will all get there though

buzugee: cant believe i am agreeing with the charlatan Frosbel. but yeah what he said is the correct answer.

is the charlatan addressed to me or frosbel or you trying to be funny Cus last I check I answered that

^^^^^ didn't realize you have already explained the confusion with " angels" wouldn't have bothered with my last reply..

Lol see confusion I thought both of you were better than that.. @ Goshen and frosbel

Is it the sons of God or the word angel that is confusing you guys? It's all about understanding brothers..Btw what do you guys think angels look like when they manifest on earth? Shining lights or funny looking creatures lol.

When the angel of the Lord(who is jesus by the way) wrestled with Jacob was the angel of the Lord not in human form. When the three angels appeared to Abraham were they not in human form?

And the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, as he sat at the door of his tent in the heat of the day. He lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, three men stood in front of him. When he saw them, he ran from the tent door to meet them, and bowed himself to the earth, and said, "My lord, if I have found favor in your sight, do not pass by your servant." Genesis 18:1-3

Fellas the most usual form in which angels appear, both in the Old Testament and the New, is the human form. It was in that shape they showed themselves to Abraham, Lot, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, Manoah the father of Samson, to David, Tobit, the Prophets and in the New Testament they appeared in the same form to the Holy Virgin, to Zachariah the father of John the Baptist, etc

It was also in a human form that the angels showed themselves to the holy women after the resurrection of our Savior. The angel who appeared to Joshua on the plain of Jericho appeared apparently in the guise of a warrior, since Joshua asks him, "Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?"

What you guys have to understand is we are all spirit beings, the difference between an " angel" and us is that, we have a common soul base. We all came from Adam whereas angels were created individually. They are a company of beings we are a race of beings, but in essence we are all spirit beings..

Now the "angels" weren't supposed to mate with the daughters of men but they did and I have already explained why..

No the Nephilliums are not fallen angels but the offspring of fallen angels and females humans. They are superhumans and provide most of the mythological tales of the gods having offspring from human. Your Hercules and etc. Half fallen angels or devils and half human gives you a corrupted mixture of superhuman beings . Not how God intended it.

Angels cannot reproduce among themselves but they can reproduce with female humans. They weren’t supposed to but they did so to mix the blood of humans with the seed of angels.
The question is why would they do that ?

The reason is that Lucifer the head of the fallen angels aim was to corrupt the human metaphysical configuration so as to prevent the messiah from being able to be born of a pure human gene. Now again why would lucifer want to do that?

Well the promise of a coming savior was given to Adam and Eve when God spoke to them and said that He will put enmity between Satan and the woman, and between his seed and her seed. Satan’s seed shall crush the woman’s seed but her seed shall crush his head The seed of the woman is a designation for the true humanity of the Messiah.

Lucifers first attempt to prevent the coming of the messiah was to possess the woman's heir Cain and then killing the next in line Abel, but the Devil realised the fulfillment of the coming messiah will not ne in Eve's immediate seed but sometime in the future..

His next plan then was to corrupt the genes of the seed of the woman through the angelic infiltration since the messiah was to be born from pure humanity genes.. But God is not to be mocked and you know what God did.
When the pollution of the human race be are much God destroyed them with The flood and another uncorrupted human race was started which did eventually usher in the Messiah..

Kay 17: Mixing religion with science will always cause confusion and disaster. Cos two entirely different system are thrown into the same pot.

A conflict is inevitably. Liberal theists have little problems with reconciling scientifc findings with their faith, unlike the creationists and IDers.

The theory of evolution doies recognize the tree of life is incomplete but it patches up, every piece/fossil is instrumental in setting the right picture. Thus every fossil is transitional. Changes also take time, creationists who claim they don't see dogs transforming to donkeys are simply barking at the wrong tree.

As complexity in life, evolution owes that to the mechanism of natural selection and a gradual build-up.

Nobody is claiming evolution is an absolute truth, but its a goddamn good explanation.

lol I can't tell you the number of times I have heard that said in different ways in defense of evolution .. Dude there are a lot of goddamn good explanations about alot of things including scientific theories, it doesn't make them true. False sold as truth repeatedly doesn't make it true.. And oh a lot of ignorant evolutionists consider the theory as absolute truth. The theory might have made sense when it was first published in 1859 but not today.. it is a dead science and they know but so many people are benefiting from it that they refuse to take it to where it belongs, the trash can..

There is no fossil evidence to support the theory that life emerged from nonliving chemicals, or that life gradually underwent a series of changes until new and different species were formed.

The bottom line is evolutionists assume evolution is true , and then write endlessly about when and where it happened rates and lineages etc but if macroevolution is physically impossible in the real world, which it is, then all the rest and bla bla is fantasy..

Truth is the only evolution is evolution of consciousness.. I'm done with this evolution thing sef.

ronkebp: ^^^^^ lOVE YOUR thoughts!!!!!

I LOVe you too friend

thehomer: You misused it in thinking that the implication of the speaker was that there are no transitional fossils.
The fossils are available and constitute one of the lines of evidence that evolution occurred.

Dude you and I know unless, you blind to the truth that, there are no true transitional fossils. His statements spoke for itself the after effect and the back and forth was all to save face.. Can you explain to me what he implied by " There is not one such fossil for which one might make a watertight argument."?..While at it can you also tell me about any found transitional fossils that proves the theory of revolution. I'm waiting

Im asking for your best estimate. Why are you suddenly afraid of giving an estimate? If I asked you for your age, you could give me just the years or the months years and days or you could give me the answer in hours. Simply present the best estimate of the age of the earth that you accept. Even if science is speculating, simply use the best source of information you have to say what you think.

you're not making sense and blowing air. My answer was I don't know and if you know o how do tell me. so why the going in circles?

I ask you a simple question and you just dance away? What is wrong with you? I'm asking you what you think transitional fossils are to see if your idea of it actually matches the scientific concept.
What do you mean by "how so"? If I said diamonds are rare, would you be asking the same question?

lol keep playing dumb. You stated about the rarity of fossils and I ask you how so and that's the best you come up with? Is that rarity that you speak of the reason why there is not one credible " transitional fossil" found to prove the theory? Because the last time I checked there has been a lot of fossils found since the days of Darwin.

This is a very silly response. Do you have the knowledge, awareness and workings of the metaphysical for you to go around creating your own reality all over the place?

yes I have knowledge of them though not all of them..what you seem not to be aware of though is that whether you have knowledge of the metaphysical or not you still create your own reality in this life.

he reason is that you're talking about creating your own reality. You sound as though you're suffering from a delusion of grandeur to be thinking that you make your own reality. I'm just trying to decide one way or another.

my brother there is nothing delusion of grandeur about what I'm saying it is what it is.. whether atheist Christian Islam etc we all create our experiences whether aware or not. That's one secret hidden from the masses nothing is fate. You call it fate because you don't know.

What are the two versions you're talking about? The last time I checked, there was only one theory of evolution.

well since evolutionists want so much for the theory to be true they seem to be always shifting the goal post.At first it was the main or classical one , the Modern Synthesis or Neo-Darwinian but Since the fossil record does not show tiny changes between one type of creature and another, a few of your kind proposed a modification to the main evolution theory. It says that change occurred by occasional leaps (punctuated equilibrium), not gradually. Im sure you already know this though ..

This is my last response on evolution to you but we can continue on other stuff if you want.. but I'm going to ask this because I know the theory clearly defies these two laws of science. Do you think the evolution theory defy these two laws of science ? The second law of thermodynamics and the law of biogenesis? And if not why

Martian: I'm copacetic.

well glad to know

You're going to die and it won't be an illusion. lol

lol I actually chuckled on that ignorance..I will move on from this world when I'm ready trust me on that..

The real you is an "unembodied" leprechaun which resides in your chest cavity. Your body is like a biological space suit and when you disengage, the mothership from the contstellation Z11-88*9 will send a lightspeed traveling pod to retrieve you and transport you to another world where you will inhabit another biological body suit. If you have experienced the Chakalozoid vision, you would have an idea of what I'm saying but we all know that's not going to happen to you.

goodluck with that.

You don't create your reality, you create your own values. Reality is objective and exists with or without your consciouness. How you choose to perceive and embellish it is your business. How you choose to live your life in it, is also your business and your freedom is only constrained by the social pact of civility men have choosen in order to live in peace with each other.
What men perceive to be freedom is also relative, but the only objective fact is reality itself and it's not based on anybody's beliefs. People are born, they live and they die. That's reality. Whatever else you tell yourself is your business. Call physical death an illusion till your face turn blue, it won't make it true.

yes you create your own reality through your beliefs whether consciously or unconsciously. Every experience that you ever had was created by your thoughts/mind my friend. What you have to know is that reality is both objective and subjective..And yes the objective is governed by the physical world but know that even the physical world is governed by a higher reality.
As for Subjective reality, it is the aspect of reality that you have immediate and direct control over because it is made up by your thoughts and interpretations of your experiences. It is the inner world of your mind. This reality can be shaped influenced and transformed by you.

Quantum physics states that everything in the most minute level is actually pure energy that is conscious, intelligent and living. This energy is directed and governed by consciousness itself. Therefore the physical laws of the universe are actually governed by the mental laws of consciousness. The physical is ruled by the mental or spiritual ..

Your perception of things is based on your core beliefs. Everything is based on beliefs. You are what you think. Events are manifesting In your life right now based on past thoughts. Your past thoughts created your present condition and your present thoughts will create your future reality.

What makes you think that jewish mythology is historical fact?

what makes you think it is not..

First of I don't think women are looking to rule the world that's quite the contrary..it is not in a woman's nature to lead. That's not how nature intended it.. it seems like that is happening because men have refused to be men. When the captain of a ship refuses for whatever reason to steer the ship to safety its only natural and inevitable that the assistant takes that initiative or they both perish..

Now it is equally stupi.d and ignorant to think that a woman is not equal to a man.. In essence A man and a woman are both equal and one and the same. They are both equally human.. The difference between a man and a woman are the roles. The man is built to lead direct and be the head. The woman follows, assist and submits to the man. For the relationship to be harmonious both have to do their roles. You can't have one without the other just like one is also not greater than the other..

The man being the head or the leader doesn't mean he is greater than the woman. That's ignorance.
So men out there start taking responsibilities and be the men you were created to be. To lead is to take responsibility and responsibility gives you power and power is freedom..

Cheers01: Lol....got banned again.


Anyways,there is no physical evidence for God or god.

what did you do? Back to my question though,how and what do you perceive him to be? And how would you want him to manifest to you physically..

Also do you agree that you create your own reality and everything is about beliefs including the creation of your reality ?

Jack65: For me its a "Disbelief" because there is no evidence for the existence of God

ok what evidence are you looking for and whats your definition of evidence. Will pose same question I asked logicboy " do you agree that disbelief in something does not necessarily make that something nonexistent ?

logicboy01: Sorry for the mistake


I dont believe in God because there is no evidence for him (or her).

lol pas de probleme Mon frere..
Ok so there is no evidence as in what? Physical? And what and how do you perceive God to be.

Do you understand the words eternal and infinite? Some of you should stop asking stup.id questions

logicboy01: disbelief is not = belief.


You dont believe in Allah. Does that make christianity the belief in the non-existence of Allah/Thor/Ogun/Sango?

did you understand my question at all? I don't think you did.

What is your last question got to do with my question? Do you realise your agreeing with the point I'm making?

logicboy01: Atheism is the disbelief in God. There is no evidence of God.


If there was evidence of the supernatural, then therefore God is a strong possibility. By deduction, an atheist doesnt believe in the supernatural as well.

ok that's what I thought it was. Now my question.. Ok do you agree that disbelief in something does not make that something nonexistent in the bigger scheme of things?

I understand that to believe in something you need faith and to have faith is to trust. Now is there a disbelief because you guys don't trust God/ supernatural or for the mere fact that there is no evidence

Martian: Yes, you're scared. "physical death is not an illusion", and conciouness won't survive the death of your brain. Youre not moving anywhere this life is all you have, stop thinking that you will go and be a slave of some ridiculous Jewish coccept. They enslaved your ancestors once with that same story, time to come back to reality.

lol calm down son. I repeat physical death is an illusion. The real you is Spirit. In other words you my friend is a spirit having a human experience. Your body is like a vehicle and when you disengage or " die", your spirit the real you moves to the metaphysical realm. If you have experienced out of body experience you would have an idea of what I'm saying but we all know that's not going to happen to you.
( I said that because everything that happens in reality is based on beliefs. If you don't believe you don't experience because you create your own reality as long as you're here).. btw what is reality to you since you brought it up.

Better to be an atheist who at least tries to learn new stuff everyday unlike you who has swallowed the rat poison of Christianity while holding your stomach and begging for the antidote from the idiot who fed you the poison.

Excuse me. But your ignorant my friend but I will let you enlighten me about your new stuffs. Tell me some of the stuff you learning so I may also learn.. So let's talk tell me why you dislike Christianity and chose atheism. We may learn something from each other

thehomer: People misuse the quote when they use it the way you did in your response because it implied the opposite of what the original person was saying.
What do you mean when you say transitional fossils do no good to the theory of evolution? I mean, if these fossils were available, they would be evidence that evolution occurred.

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I think there is a need to have an idea of what transitional fossils are in order to claim that there are none of them. The rarity of fossilization is true whether or not you like it.



I'm not asking you to speculate, I'm asking you for you best estimate of how old the earth is not how old you don't think it is. I didn't say the earth was 6000 or 7000 years old. And saying that doesn't mean you don't think it is 100,000 years old. If you don't wish to go scientific on that question, then what are you willing to go scientific on?



Can you create your reality where gravity is absent yet you continue having this conversation?

1. I don't see where I misused the quote but you're more than welcome to show me. His whole lresponse letter speaks for itself...
It does no good because instead of proving evolution it is doing the opposite and most honest paleotologists and evolutionists know this. The theory of evolution is a dead science my friend. But let's entertain your statement for a second . You said " if these fossils were available it would prove that evolution occurred " Any reason why they are not available and what is not available?

2. I have already told you I don't know and that's a fact.. Even geologists don't know.. saying could be 4.5 or 4.4 or 4.6 doesn't make it factual. The bible doesn't say anything and science at this point is also speculating so I don't know..If you know kindly tell me.

3. Well if there are different versions of transitional fossils go ahead and state it I'm all ears..And did you say rarity of fossils? How so

4.That's a very silly question and this question could be answered a number of ways depends on what you believe you as a man is capable of.
The simple answer to your question though is No. If you don't have the knowledge, awareness and workings of the metaphysical and you try to defy the laws of this physical realm YOU DIE or disengage from this focus.

This question is typical of minds like you though. I talk about creating your own reality and boom you come up with this question lol. Whats your reason for that question again?

Btw before I ask you a couple of questions which of the two versions of the evolution theory do you support?

@atheist I have this Quesrion for you guys.
Is atheism the non believe in God/supernatural or its non existent or both? My understanding is that it is believe in no gods/ God but someone correct me if I'm wrong because you hear different versions of definitions from atheist

thehomer: If you've actually understood what the Dr. meant, then you will understand that your fellow creationists were quote mining him. Dr. Patterson is the one who actually made the quote that was being misused.



What do you think a transitional fossil is? And how old do you think the earth is?



There is no fate or chance? If neither God nor Satan is to be blamed, then is God to be praised when things go right?

I'm using phone so will answer them numerically..
1. Well I don't know how other people mis uses that quote.. But the bigger picture is that most of the so called transitional fossils does no good to the theory of evolution ..

2. there is no need defining transitional fossils. I will leave that to you. But I will say this that none of the so called transitional fossils supports the gradual change mantra and I'm tired of hearing the famous because of imperfections of fossils record melody.( like I said I'm not into the back and forth evolution stuff anymore more )

I don't know how old the earth and I'm not about to speculate or get scientific on that question .. I know where you going with this so I will satisfy your curiosity. No the earth is not 6000 or 7000 yrs old.

3. And yes there is nothing like fate and chance because you create your own reality as a freewill being ..people attribute everything that happens to them to the devil or God because of ignorance.. ask yourself this If everything depends on God and the Devil, why do we even need to have a mind of our own at all? that's absurd and wrong thinking..

Martian: I think they just refuse to learn. There is a lot of misinformation out there but any reasonable and educated person can tell the difference between reasonable theories and outright lies unless their religious convictions stops them from doing so. It all adds up to fear. They are scared.

Scared of life. Scared of death. Scared of not existing. Scared of illusions. Scared of their own superstitions. And they refuse to believe that they have been hoodwinked from birth. "God JUST HAS TO exist"

No one is scared of nothing I know I'm not and there is a lot of people like me.. Im here to live and experience and will move on from this world when I want.. Physical death is an illusion..

Speaking of misinformation I think you and I know the misinformed are " atheist" but I know you will disagree.. A false mixed with some truth and sold as THe Truth does not make it true.. I always say there is a reason why rat poison is 99% food and only 1% poison.

thehomer: You have been mislead by your fellow creationists. This simply shows the sort of dishonest quote-mining that they do.
You're welcome to read this short article which clarifies the entire issue. You need to learn not to swallow whatever you come across from those creationists.

Dude I have read one or two articles concerning this quote.. This article does not prove anything .. Did Dr. Patterson disprove the quote ? The writer of the article only sort to explain what the Dr. meant and in opinion ended up saying the same thing Dr. Patterson meant to say..

Like I keep saying there will never be " true transitional fossils" found that will prove the evolution theory the way we've been told because they do not exist period.. One life form did not evolve into another. It may appear that way as a result of similarities in form but that's because all life forms are designed by the same God, intelligence, Force or whatever you want to call it.. Every life form is unique and purposely created, no need for one to evolve into another...

Everything in this universe is created by thoughts and unique and purposely done.. And we are all co creators with God. There is nothing like fate or chance. We all are living the reality that we have created not by chance or fate..Once people begin to understand that they would stop blaming God or Satan for their misfortunes, plights and misgivings..

logicboy: Religious people like you always talk big but always fail to provide facts, proof or evidence.

The evidence for evolution lies in the human transitional fossils and the current evolution of man why are humans not neeuding their wisdom teeth? Why are humans bigger than they were in the middle ages?


Transitional fossils;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96bkdohMZE




http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=%5B13+mya%5D+Pierolapithecus+catalaunicus+&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=on

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=+%5B4.4+mya%5D+Ardipithecus+&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=%5B3.7+mya%5D+Australopithecus&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=%5B1.9+mya%5D+Homo+rudolfensis+&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=%5B1.9+to+1.6+mya%5D+Homo+habilis&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0

http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?hl=en&q=%5B1.7+to+.25+mya%5D+Homo+erectus+&btnG=Search&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_ylo=&as_vis=0


These are scientific journals for all the human transitional fossils mentioned in the video

Fossils Displayed (dates are approximate):
[13 mya] Pierolapithecus catalaunicus
[4.4 mya] Ardipithecus
[3.7 mya] Australopithecus
[1.9 mya] Homo rudolfensis
[1.9 to 1.6 mya] Homo habilis
[1.7 to .25 mya] Homo erectus


Please feel free to try and debunk them

hahaha see foolishness and ignorance.. so those are your transitional evidence that proves evolution.. Are you sure you understand evolution? Look you are an amateur and I don't have your time..

I never took you serious when I came across your reasons for being an atheist and I'm not about to do now..

Btw what did you expected me to do with those journal websites you presented? Did you expected me to get your points through those numerous journals lol. Is that how you present your proves and your arguments? This guy self

I repeat there are no intermediate states of life forms. I don't think you really understand evolution because if you did you would know what a " transitional fossil" really is and not what you have been fed.. I will leave you with this though:


When asked about why he didn't put one single picture of intermediate fossils in his book about evolution;
This is what one of your own, Dr. Colin Patterson a respected well known evolutionist, Director of the British Museum of Natural History,( where there are about 7 million fossils) said concerning transitional fossils .

"I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossils or living, I certainly would have included it.… I will lay it on the line. There is not one such fossil for which one might make a watertight argument.'"

Literature is filled with statements from evolutionists who know the fossil record lacks truly transitional forms and I can quote many. But you are an amateur and these kind of back and forth don't excite me about evolution anymore because I know what true evolution is.

Btw this what Dr. Colin said to refute his critics when he got the heat from his colleagues for that statement
"We have access to the tips of the tree; the tree itself is theory, and people who pretend to know about the tree and to describe what went on it—how the branches came off and the twigs came off—are, I think, telling stories."

Martian: This is great. You have mananged to deny evolution, accept the big b@ang theory, apply evolution to the big b@ng theory, accept evolution, credit it to your sky fairy, and then deny evolution again. You're a breath of fresh air!

ok whats your point ? Where did I deny evolution or the big ban.g theory.

I said both theories are faulty and that the way it has been explained to the masses is false.. I then explained what the real evolution is. Just like the big ba.ng evolution is half the truth that people know or have been revealed..

I said from the beginning that once people begin to perceive the real truth about these theories, they will begin to understand the harmony between religion and science..

Science does not discredit religion in anyway only ignorance does.. when you have knowledge of the workings of this universe everything makes sense.. when you don't things don't add up

Btw @ logicboy I don't care if you become a believer or not that's your prerogative..we all have to make our choices

logicboy: My god, your sheer ignorance almost converted me into a believer!

I am lost for words! Where does one even start to begin with this foolishness?

Ehem, so do you ignore the human transitional fossils and the current evolution in living organisms today? Can you explain why humans no longer need their wisdom teeth?

lol this guy self. Speaking of ignorance and foolishness..Dude I been there done all that son trust me I'm not impressed come harder..

I repeat evolution the one way you have been told would never be proven.. Trust me there is nothing you know about evolution that I don't know.. Look, for every number of articles talking about the proof of evolution that you know I can provide evidence contrary to that.. but unfortunately for you I don't have your time because we are not on the same or level of consciousness.

And did you say ignoring human transitional fossils? Lol keep ignoring your brain.. look the truth is there is nothing lime transitional fossils son. Evidence of transitional fossils are all bogus ..

What you need to understand is that it is nature or logos of God/universal intelligence to take the most efficient route in forming the universe. It began with the big bang of light into all other states of matter. The different states of matter were then shaped into different forms such as stars, nebulas and planets. God did the same thing with the formation of life. It starts from the most basic and advances from there. It always lay the foundation first and then builds upon it. This sequential ordering of events explains why evolution is the process.

The process of evolution is not evolution of organic matter or species but evolution of consciousness or intelligence. From the simple to the complex.. There are no intermediate forms of life and will never be one.. humans are humans and apes would be apes...

Jenwitemi: Exactly. This is what i believe in.

@ Temi why do you believe in many paths and why if I may ask?

logicboy: Wow. You're very confident in your ignorance. Do you know what a scientific theory is? You dont think that it is a strange coincidence that of all the scientific theories, the ones that religious people say are faulty are the ones that go against their doctrine?


Why not reject germ theory or the theory of gravity?


Evolution has proof/evidence. Cant say the same for God or gods

you are actually the ignorant one who thinks he has any iota of intelligence.. Trust me an intelligent person is like a fool to super intelligent being..

Your views are corrupted. Not having knowledge or understanding/wisdom to or about something does not make it wrong or nonexistent..

Btw do you see how ignorant you sound why should Christianity or religion not accept something (germ theory etc even though in the bigger scheme of things diseases are caused by thought patterns )if it is true.?

I repeat one life form does not evolve into another.. yes evolution exist but the only evolution is evolution of consciousness and not species.. Human beings did not evolve from any other species .. That is a bigger ignorance and lie ever told.
Evolution the way you have been told will not be proven because it is faulty period..

Jenwitemi: Actually, nyameke, i am not an atheist. So, kindly count me out of the atheist population of nairaland, please.

well glad to know you are not an atheist good choice .. Btw I don't have problem with atheist. People can believe in whatever they like not my problem.. we are all here to make a choice

Lol some of you are delusional.. Questions for born agains to prove their mettle? And answering in favor of Christianity?..First of this is not a competition and Christianity is not competing with anyone.. And no one also needs to prove their mettle to anyone but themselves and their God. Unless of course you are saying you are THe God of born agains.. Some of you all are really funny