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Serendipity: I don't have confab with juveniles. But
let me educate you, in Law for instance, it is trite that HE WHO ASSERTS, PROVES.
You tried to rebut the irrefutable and only succeeded in making yourself a simpleton. You have nothing substantial with which to back up your ill informed rejoinder.

lol" I tried to rebut the irrefutable"? You call that rubbish you put up there irrefutable? You're even more ignorant than I thought.. Money does not get anyone love dummy.. I mean how does your uncles wife sticking around against all odds because of money disprove number 7 on the OPs list?. Dude go sit down you're the juvenile in intelligence here..

[quote author=Isale_eko]I am sorry to say but all these dos and donts are all a waste of time. These kind of things stop you from being yourself. You try to be an alpha male when God made you a beta male. Anyway the Kim Kardashians of this world date alpha males while the Michelle Obamas of this world date beta males.

If a woman does not appreciate you for who you are, then move on with your life. Trust me, you will get to meet the woman that appreciates who you are. You cannot just go ahead and change your personality. It doesn't work that way. What works is making yourself a better person, not changing yourself.[/quote]I don't think you understand what beimg an alpha male is.. God didn't make others beta and alpha. That's fallacy of the highest order.. being alpha is a way of life to put it simply...

you re contradicting yourself son..
Dude if a woman doesn't appreciate you for who you are and you disregard it and move on with your life guess what? That's alpha. That's what any normal sane alpha guy would do or any guy should do.. But a beta guy would rather stick around hoping to convince or be even more nicer for eons hoping for a different outcome. Now that's beta and stupid ..

Btw to insinuate Obama as beta shows your lack of understanding of alpha and beta qualities in males ..

Serendipity: No SEVEN is fallacious and bogus.
LET me indite ferociously that money as opposed to the view expressed in No SEVEN above can increase the love a woman has or will have for you.
I'm not talking about what is written on books, things that are utopian, quixotic, chimeric and lacks feasibility.
I' talking about what is practicable and obtainable in the society.
GO and aske my uncle's wife while she refuse to leave his house after she was almost thrown down from a three storeyed building.
THE guy's containers then was landing at Onitsha Main Market with careless abandon. She saw money and vowed to leave as corpse. She later used jazz which she later said was to make the man head over heels with her, because the jazz made the man go nuts.
He was later taken to a native doctor at Nsukka. This is just an instance.

you didn't make one sense or prove that number 7 is fallacious .. you're just an ignorant boy who thinks using unnecessary big words will somehow miraculously compensate for your lack of intelligence.. Stop trying so hard bro

To bring it all into perspective, the bottom line is if you want to swoon women You have to be an ALPHA male and act like one.. being beta will never get you the girls you want bottom line..I don't see how this is so hard for guys to understand

^^^ Yep the bastards had no respect for human life let alone public safety. The posse were the most violent organized criminals IMO

^^^ lol I grew up with Caribbeans so I know and you are right about their disdain for education just as much as AA if not worse.. most drug kingpins in new York and jersey are headed by blacks of Afro Caribbean descent

TerryCarr: blacks in the Caribbean have it better at lease they value education and have Good HDI(exclude Haiti) most blacks in America value Butts, and Nicky shoes

That's why I said its very debatable but I will still stand by my statement..

Lmao at the bolded though. you had me chuckling.. but you have to admit that statement is very condescending and hypocritical because you and I know Afro Caribbeans are just as guilty.. in fact all of us black men value and worships butts lol and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. There is just and place and time for everything that's all. The only sad and bad thing is when one makes butts the major and only priority.

TerryCarr: Brazil never had this after slavery
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/1943_Colored_Waiting_Room_Sign.jpg
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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Lynching-of-woman-1911.jpg
yea black were disadvantage but not in fear for there lives

ok I had figured your statement was based on some of the inhumane atrocities perpetrated against dark skinned races in America.. But having said that , your statement should have been " being black in Brazil WAS hell of a lot better than being a black in America " because as far as I know blacks in Brazil are more or less like second class citizens as compared to their counterparts in America now ..

its debatable but nonetheless I will go as far and even say blacks in America have it better by whatever social equality perimeter or standard be it equal rights, economic equity etc than all the other blacks in the diaspora...

The good thing about blacks in America was and is that they sought , fought and are still fighting to obtain and enjoy the rights( equal, economic etc ) they currently have while south American blacks just settled with the status quo..

fellis: Please stop it, longevity genes exist. This is something scientists have researched and found to be true.

of course I know " longevity genes"exist and have been a lot of research about it but I am giving you the bigger picture.. Trust me so called "longevity genes" would not help anyone if they stop living an active lifestyle

Ok so how does your title harmonize or tie in to the content of the thread or am I missing something here

Lol does incest run is his family? There might be more to this than he is telling you.

chaircover: To a certain degree, i believe so. All my mums siblings are in the seventies and late eighties and they all all very active and healthy. Walk to church every week and other places. My grandparents on my mothers side lived well into old age too.

Some diseases which tend to cut peoples lives down short such as breast cancers tend to run in families.

Your mums siblings are not living long because of heredity but simple because of the reasons you stated. Active lifestyles!! Among other things they are just following one of the rules of life knowingly or unknowingly..

No sir.. Only a healthy lifestyle, right mindset or decisions and beliefs about life will make you live long..
Coupled with all this the most important is to be active and be progressive or you die..

A fact of life is, anything that stops being active and moving, stops living and therefore dies.. One reason why people in the villages and countrsides tend to live longer, is because of their active lifestyle. There is nothing like retirement in those places..You will see a seventy yrs old woman or man still attending to their farms and other things and most look nothing like in their seventies..

Most people that retires die early especially if they don't have other things going on in their life. These people on the average die within five and 7 years after retirement because of their inactivity. When you retire and starts doing nothing you are indirectly telling the universe or nature that you have no passion left and nothing else to live for. Natures listens and takes the inevitable action, DEATH!!

MsDarkSkin: I havent the slightest of ideas...

lol more like " I'm guilty as charged" ..... Woman "I know what you did this summer" starring dark mama, shollopoz , .... Etc

Btw speaking of dark mama are you cute Msdarkskin and proportional in all the right places cuz I like darkskin women..most especially the intelligent ones..

TerryCarr: being black in Brazil is hell of a lot better then being black in America

what? How did you come about that conclusion

What the hell went on here

pro01: Very interesting thread. I belong(ed) to the same school of thought as the OP, but then - there are so many things I've seen and experienced in this society of ours that I just can't explain, which means that there is indeed a possibility, no matter how slim, that some of these 'superstitions' are real here. If I have to go into the tiny details and explanations, my post would be unbearably long, and I don't want anyone to accuse me of writing a 'thesis'.

In a nutshell, however, I think some sort of spiritual force exists that affects how things in the physical realm happen; but then, I also have doubts as to why, in Africa, this spiritual force is not replicable on a ceteris paribus basis. For instance, if a man supposedly has a formula that makes his body impenetrable to bullets and machete cuts, why can't that formula be reproduced on a mass scale and commercialised? ? ? Why would national armies not want to adopt that formula for their soldiers, if it really works? ? ?

Frankly, that is why the White Man's 'Jazz' is superior to ours: it can be replicated; it is science. Inventions such as the aeroplane, television, mobile phone, the almighty Internet, and pretty much everything else the White Man has invented are probably more spiritual than mental/intellectual, but the fact that they enshrined these inventions in reproducible science - and put forth the formulae in ways anyone can learn how to replicate ceteris paribus makes Africans look like cavemen when we talk about this our 'superstitions' that are inconsistent and unscientific. In any case, with all our superstition, mere shiploads of drunken White expeditionists conquered entire African kingdoms, colonised them, and whisked them off in droves into slavery. Since these superstitions are supposedly real, why did the African warriors not 'disappear' or overwhelm the White invaders with their black voodoo? ? ?

The thing is that I'm not quite sure what to believe anymore. On one hand, I doubt that these African superstitions hold water, but on the other hand, I have also seen things in our society that defy logical explanation - and reinforce the idea that 'Jazz' actually exists. I really don't know what to believe anymore to be honest.

I have two words for you " beliefs. and " reality" your beliefs form your reality and what you don't believe in has no bearing in your reality. That's the simple truth..

African warriors could not or would not disappear or overwhelm their white invaders simple because both groups had different beliefs and thus realities.

Chubhie: I dont really seem to get your stand in all this....Is it the case that
...You are a Christian
...Believes in trinity
...Believes in Magic/magick
...believes that only the seen world exists? What really is your own position

lol Yea he is as confused as most of the masses out there .he is scattering his thoughts and contentions all over the place and not making much sense..he lacks understanding of how the universe works and so going back and forth with him is futile.. Jou can't force people to understand stuffs when they are not willing or ready for it..I let nature takes it course

I always say reading.seeing, knowing, analysing and in this case debating something is NOT the same as understanding it. Let me repeat reading , seeing and knowing about something does not mean you understand it..

Only application and physical action on knowledge brings genuine understanding. They say knowledge is power and sets you free but I say complete freedom comes only when you understand the knowledge in your grasp..

cuteonyii: is the definition of something not Good enough to establish a fact?? generally speaking, people believe that spirit is a form of being that move around the world. It can come to you in the mid night and talk to you, play with you, stay in you, be friendly or enemy. But I am saying it is ridiculous when people say that they saw spirit. Because spirit is something you can not see or touch. is just an imaginary thing. which means something we believe that exist but do not haveclue on how it looks like but we assume any ways that it could be in this or that form. When i say imaginary lines, i mean there is assumed line along this place even though we can not see or touch it.
which of the part do you not understand??.. Go ahead and lecture me about Spirit..if you think you know more about it.

dude we are all spirit beings created from the Spirit of God .. we are all gods. Your essence and who you really are is spirit. You are a spiritual being having a human experience. The human body is like a vehicle for your spirit to experience this physical dimension. When you disengage from this focus your spirit enters a dimension different from this current one..You do not see so called " spirits" because they live in higher dimension different from our dimension.. So speak for your self and not others.. There are plenty people out there including me who have sensed and seen "spirits" in the astral plane..

Btw You still didn't make one sense in your post.. your logic and understanding is flawed. Not being able to touch or see something does not make it imaginary. It's like saying God is imaginary because you cannot see or touch him.. its stupi.d mentality to have .

cuteonyii: Ok since you do not want to be more matured in your argument by using the word ignorance and lack of understanding. I put it this way, you are the one who is ignorant, lack of understanding and so blinded with the theory of magic and voodoo. you are as confused as your statement by mixing up miracle with magic and voodoo. Im surprise that you even mentioned Bible here. yet you went ahead by saying that MAGIC came from God. Tell me any where, or any version of the BIble where Gods works are referred as Magic. Are you atheist, christian or traditionalist so that i can know where to start to heal your diseases?
read other peoples opinion about magic and miracle here...if you care..
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090313112334AAYVBtN
http://malaysia.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20111003190029AA1Ql2C
does that make every thing right? i do not know. but you can make sence out of it.

What is the meaning of formula and Pattern? any thing that has formula and pattern must follow same rules and procedure, otherwise the result will not be achieved. Magic is pre determine, which means the trickster already knew the rules and the result. magic can only produce illusion to deceive people like "YOU"
IM STILL CHALLENGING YOU TO SHOW ME ONE MAGIC..AND I WILL TELL YOU HOW IT WORKS!!!!
Exodus 17:12. we are told what method God used to do his miracle. does it mean it has to follow same pattern all the time? Nope God can do his thing in many ways he wants to. no rules, no formula, no incantation, no procedure. Bros, no magic or voodoo happens out of no way. I do not want this to get more complicated by going into the scripture. because if we do, then we will end up diverging the topic.
If i want to use the bible, i will ask you to explain the meaning of " IF YOU HAVE FAITH AS BIG AS THE MUSTARD SEED, YOU CAN MOVE THE MOUNTAIN" is faith voodoo? is faith magic? Miracle is the only place where faith is required... which voodoo or magic preaches or teaches about faith
all those things you mentioned from the bible are just telling us that God is a guy man. He can do things the way it pleases him. Ok the Israelites are still there in the middle east surrounded by their enemies. let Benjamin Netanyahu raise his hand so that Israel could defeat Iran, Hezbollah, Etc..

Miracle is the only place where faith is required? Really son? Ok Your whole post was full of ignorance but with that statement I can see we are on different levels of consciousness and thus it is futile going back and forth with you Cus nothing I say will make sense to you..So no hard feelings but this is my last response to you on this topic..

Oh and I'm a Christian son

cuteonyii: Which one is ignorance? that i showed you a prove that spirit is nonphysical?? Breath can u see or touch breath??.. what is the meaning of nonphysical??

ok are slow or what. You postulated that spirits are just imaginary beings and I then ask you how or why did you come to that assertion. Instead of answering you go make a 180 and answer my question with the definition of spirit from wiki( a definition which absolutely has no correlation with your assertion that " spirits are just imaginary beings).." And you turn around to ask me which one be ignorant again? Lol or are you saying breath= imaginary ?

cuteonyii: So now you are saying there are real and fake voodoo, magic?.. Ok why not give me an example of real magic let me see how real it is..
I think mixing miracle with magic is ridiculous. Miracle does not have any procedure or form, formulae to follow other than trust and obey, hope and faith, wish and pray. Besides, miracle can occur even when one is not expecting it or put any effort in it. unlike magic and voodoo which requires a certain pattern, rules, formulae, incantations and procedures to trick and produce illusion of deceit and amazement.
Just show me one real magic or voodoo and prove it to me how real there..too easy.

lol no mixing miracles and magic is not ridiculous, you're just ignorant and lack understanding of things that's all.. Understand that we sometimes use language to separate inseparable things in order to describe them. In essence miracles and magic are the same just as bone and morrow are one and the same..

2. Miracles and magic both have a formula and a pattern. Btw most things if not all things have formulas and follow procedures..I also see that you are confusing rituals with magic work. Rituals are not the reason why magic works infact it has no use at all. Rituals are just props in magic work..

3. Using the bible for instance to give you examples of magic, understand that many men of God have used various supernatural means to exercise power over their world..
Moses brought victory by raising his arms. Joshua stopped the Jordan by touching it with a Holy item. Samson increased his strength by growing his hair long. Elisha healed Naaman through a complex ritual of washing. Peter also healed by his shadow . Jesus walked on water and healed a blind man by mixing his with with clay.. These are all acts and forms of magic my friend.. They also all involved the use of rituals except the one about jesus walking on water. That was just all pure intent and will but it is still magic..

The truth is all magic comes from God contrary to what many Christians believe and its God's power and it is only evil evil when we use God’s power while denying God’s personality,( in this case voodoo practitioners etc )

cuteonyii: Spirit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpiritTheodor von Holst, Bertalda, Assailed by Spirits, c.1830. The English word spirit ( from Latin spiritus "breath"

spir·it/ˈspirit/
Noun:
The nonphysical part of a person that is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.





i hope this will help to explain what spirit is.

ok this where I leave you in your ignorance.. what part of what you posted makes spirits imaginary or explains your stance.

cuteonyii: The only reason why you call him trickster is because i disclosed to you the secret behind his voodoo power right?.. otherwise you would have call him one the greatest voodoo man on earth.

It is very easy easy easy to deceive a typical african man in the name of voodoo because none of them will be eager to do research on the principle behind the so called voodoo. of cou rse they already believe and accepted only one thing that they know and believe.

I still ask why is it only in the third world countries where clueless people dominated are the only place where voodoo is strongly practice and believed.

you are still mixing apples and oranges here son. I have seen plenty of those videos you posted. It doesn't prove anything atleast as far as real magic is concerned. It only exposes the so called " magicians" pretending to do real magic.

Let me put it to you this way again real magick is different from what you think it is.. let me enlighten you a little. Real voodoo and Magick is all mental work. Real magick in essence involves the creatiing of change in reality using the power of the will . When our intentions are willed to manifest instantaneously and it happens, we call it a miracle or magical but in essence we are all magicians because all of our manifestations follows the same procedure. However not all manifestations works are instantaneous thus the ones that are deemed miraculous .. How fast you manifest your intentions is based on the power of your mental strength/focus/ and Faith/belief. It's all mental or spiritual work.

If you don't understand how the metaphysical world works, what I just described will seem like mamba jamba to you, but I really don't feel like going into details right now..just know that you can use the power of magic to do harm, heal the sick, cure all kinds of diseases, bend realities in your favor etc etc if you have the understanding of the mental/spiritual world. We can all do miracles and not just voodoo priest , pastors etc

Fulaman198: It is because it is, so many cultures in the world are kneeling before the West and imitating them. This is due to Westernization and it hurts the more traditional cultures of the world. When Africans start going by the imaginary territories placed before them by EUROPEANS, and saying nomads must do as they say, it is destructive to those traditional cultures who want to keep living the way they have for thousands of years.

I won't let my culture or any traditional culture disappear, as long as this body of mine has life and God gives me strength I will not waste my youthful energy being a faceless puppet to society.

you still have not defined what culture means to you..

Btw the bolded is soo ignorant, stupi.d and hypocritical and stems from low self esteem that I cant begin to even take you serious. Dude even your barbaric forefathers would not want to live how they lived 1000s of years ago if they lived until the present time.. People evolve dummy and so does their cultural beliefs and ways. Only fools live in the past. The target is always moving and when you keep firing at the same spot, you’ll miss the mark. I have already told you that what was a good way of doing things in the past might not be the best way in the present..

You're not a very smart man. You want to live like how your forefathers lived 1000s of years ago yet you are here using the internet. Writing in a foreign language and probably living in a western world. You watch tv Etc and use all of the modern stuff invented by modern men and yet you're here talking nonsense..
Only cowards talks the talks but never walks the walks. Shouldn't you be in a cave or tent somewhere living the nomadic lifestyle that your forefathers lived?

Fulaman198: Don't steal my fiance

lol man up

[quote author=~Royal~][font=times][color=#770077][i]This thread is all over the place, the last on topic post i read was sybellah speaking about how her and her Sister have Two different Phenotypes.

So in other words.

Her momma was a Ho3.[/quote]why insult her moms. How is that your problem if her mamma is a Ho.e or not ..Don't be stupi.d son. You insulted her earlier she ignored it and your wussy as.s is still calling her moms names..

cuteonyii: The most funny part of it is that people will tell you how they saw spirit..
First of all do you know what Spirit is?.. Spirit is something you can not see or touch. It is an imaginary being. so how can you see spirit..

lol spirits are imaginary beings? Dude do you know who you are? Btw how did you come to that conclusion..

cuteonyii: we create our own reality I totally agree. But does it mean all the reality people create and believe are all true and realistic? I answer Nope.

You just need knowledge and most importantly understand how the metaphysical works I totally agree with you. And that is the only reason why greater number of people that practice and believe in the tricks of voodoo are from the Third world countries because they lack the knowledge and most importantly the understanding on how the metaphysics works.

I strongly argue that Voodoo or magic is a trick that has formula that when followed will amaze someone who do not understand the knowledge, formula behind it.
A friend of mine who use to be a native doctor and was believed to be a powerful voodoo man use to carry a basket full of water around the village Making people to believe that he has the power to hold water in the basket. Guess what, It was all a trick. He later explained to me how it was done using a local water melon fresh juice to sill the basket and let is dry for a long time then wahooo!!!.. do your voodoo.. to me apart from local water melon which i believe they use because thats what they can afford, there are many transparent glues one can use to achieve same goal.
Tell me any single voodoo or magic and i will tell you how it works..

I'm using my phone so I will answer your contentions numerically.
1. I'm glad we agree that we create our own realities because that's a FACT and one secret kept from the masses.. people realities are created by their perceptions and subjective mind based on their acquired beliefs etc ( which unfortunately are most times faulty and limiting beliefs) and so yes I agree with your first point. Why I said earlier that atheist not believing in God does not make him non existent..

2. Voodoo works are not fake or tricks they are real. I don't see how the use metaphysical forces to manifest things in the physical makes it fake..if I use a clothing or picture of you to cast a spell on you I dont how that is a trick.. I don't think you really understand metaphysical works..
Yes there are fake voodoo priests just like there are fake pastors or magicians but it nonetheless doesn't mean all voodoo works are fake..
You are also right people are amazed about all these works and miracles because they have no knowledge of how the process works, but , the process is real.. The funny thing is most of the performers of these works also have no idea how the process works, they just know it works..

3. Your so called voodoo friend is just a trickster/pretender and played on the intelligence of gullible people that's all. There are game people everywhere including fake pastors doesn't mean all pastors are fake.

^^^ why not and do you believe in God?

vislabraye: @ justaqad.
Don't be naïve all in the name of civilization. There are witches every where. What do you think is the reason for some of the crimes and strange behaviours we see.
Even if you watch discovery channel you would hear some stories that would shock you.

what do you mean by witches every where? And stop blaming people stupidity and evil ways on witches.. This is the major reason why the continent is in this pleep up dire situation. People refuse to take responsibilities for their evils ways and forever shifting the blame to witches, Satan this Satan that, demons, poor grandmothers etc. Their misfortunes is always the fault of someone else other than themselves.

When will people get it into their skulls that the only power the devil or just about anyone else has over you is the one you give them.

cuteonyii: Hey guys, i'm not trying to offend any body here. But sometimes my friends finds it annoying when I tell them that I do not believe in the following.

1. That someone can make me appear on a mirror and cast a spell on me.
2. That someone can tie my destiny with my picture taken to some where.
3. That I can get ill when i walk over something buried under the earth or in front of my door.
4. That someone can changed baby in the womb to something else e.g stone, tortoise, etc.
5. That dead people can come out and hunt me.
6. I can see ghost.
o7. That someone can get shot at and the bullet will not get into the body.
8. That Ritual will make money fill in your room.

Is not because of religion but just they way I grew up. I was born and raised in Africa for over 30 year i'm yet to get any prove for those stuff. I strongly believe in magics and poison, but when it comes to voodoo I do not believe in that.
I have actually seen people break, chew and swallow bottle when i was in Aba. But I call those stuffs magics because thats the only thing they could do all the time. I think we Africans call most things voodoo simply because we do not have explanations to them.
What do you believe??

The disbelief in something does not make that thing non existent. We create our own realities and experiences and so you not believing in those things means that they are not evident in your reality but it doesn't make them any less True or non existent..( why atheist can disbelief in God all they want it still wouldn't make God non existent) The things that manifest in your life in this existence are the things that you believe in. All the things that you listed are all possible and can be done by anyone if you have the mental power, strength and the know how along with faith. You dont have to practice voodoo, Christianity, Islam etc or join the occult to do these so called supernatural phenomenons. You just need knowledge and most importantly understand how the metaphysical works.

So yes all the things you listed are real possible and are what we call real magic because it makes use of the metaphysical.. belief in something is a choice we all make..

Fulaman198: LOL not in a million years, actually I'm too proud of it. It is what separates me from say an American or Brit, a French person, a German, etc.

Many Nigerians do not even want to be seen as different, and they feel that being different and not themselves (aka an original) is a bad thing.

Lmao about not in a million years. You re definetly really ignorant like a lot people out there.. So this begs the question " define culture in your own words ".