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Impressive and very realistic.

^^about time you two get a room, do whatever, kiss and make up.

^sent

^sent

And I remain the Finance minister

lol

President Mapomeji

happy birthday ileke.

Whao! this is bigger than I thought. Never knew Libya unrest will get this far.

Becomrichn:
Andre Uweh an igboman trying to tell us who should lead the yorubas. you make me laugh.

OAM4J, you see each group in nigeria has different culture. ever igbo man is a king of his yard. that why you see the way igbo build houses. when igbo tell you abroad. they are eze. and you find too many people making that claim. is because every igboman is obi or eze of his yard.

Yoruba culture is different. OAM4J. you can not compare yorubaland with others places.

you see, look at this pictures of lagos state school and look at ota. and you would know why we are taken over leadership from people who have rob our people.

OAM4J you can not rob a people and steal from them and claim you are thier leaders. look my friend. Do you know what is called OLE in yorubaland. OLE is a thief.

It is Abomination under Yoruba culture for a thief to be King.  And you cant rob the Yoruba people and claim you want to be Yoruba leader OAM4J.

We own the next generation of Yoruba children a better life. and the only way we can do this is to take over the leadership and remove criminals from power.

I should print these and keep it  for my unborn grand and great grand children, how many times did Becomerich mention my moniker?

Anyway Becomerich, can you lay down your life for the cause of Yorubas if we make you our leader, how can we sure you will not leave us in the battle and run to Ivory coast Liberia or back to Canada?

fstranger3:
^^^

Kokoro jobijobi

Err!

Kokoro jowo-jowo/nanwo-nanwo

Katsumoto:
Ki ni mo fe ra fun awon ano mi ti mo ba ti ra fast cars ati SUV fun eyin?

If you are not up to the task, abeg let us know on time o. You think it is easy to get a clean, intelligent, well brought up, beautiful, well educated girl just like that?

If you cannot afford to buy your ano a house on Osborne Rd, Ikoyi, and a SUV for me, make you waka far & fast. Isale gangan is the only child of the parent o.

Who is the leader of the Hausas, Igbo, Kanuri, Ijaw, Urobo, Itsekiri etc ?

When you give me the answer to that, I will tell you the Yoruba leader.

Katsumoto:


I was about to bring Mukina into this thread but since you don chill for me, no sweat. E se o egbon wa.

Se ki awon temi la ti lafiaji wa ki yin ni Epetedo?

lol

If you bring in Mukina, then both of you will be losing your posting privileges/sec, even for putting a coma instead of a period on a sentence will attract a ban.

Am sure you know you cant come to Epetedo empty handed, and I dont eat yam and kola nuts but I like fast cars/SUVs

^^^dont be 'naive and trusting' like me.

I tot i made you Balogun for a reason, why you dey ask for my aburo again?

Katsumoto:
I am going to agree with my girl (Isale) on this. I love that poem and I can relate to the words. The man 'may' love his mistress but he wants some coochie and he wants it now.

BTW

Moni kilo fun e mo kin to ron awon boys mi si e. A word is enough for the wise; fi omo mi sile. 

Bobo yi rora o. Ara e ti ngbona ju. O je ma fu ara ni hypertension.

Am not contesting her with you, she is my aburo from Isale gangan, ni eko ile. But you need to show me some goddamn respect from now on, if you want me to give you my sister. Be wise.
[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7766364#msg7766364 date=1298207952]Are you my soulmate?  If so, why did you even feel the need to add "Isale" in the bolded? We all know you have not the reputation of chasing tail all over Nairaland!  Who else is there?  Spill it!!!

I am glad you love the poem.  It is really awesome and has survived the test of time.  Artistic and literary talent is a special thing.  I count myself lucky when I get the opportunity to enjoy the works of my fellow man.   

Also, I shall not be too hard on our dear OAM4J.  He is a real gent, and oh so naive and trusting.  BTW, I too resemble that remark.  [/quote]hmnnnnnn! Noted!

BTW, eyin melo ni 'our'?

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=590933.msg7764755#msg7764755 date=1298176750]hahahaha.  You're usually so observant.  That poem is not a love poem. Is it to you?  Did you actually read it?  I guess, from the point of view of a man, it could be.  When i first read it, I thought it was lovely.  Then I read deeper - it is just some Hot guy.  That's all it is. If you read my conclusion, you would have at least realized my interpretation of it.[/quote]I dont fully agree with your conclusion (anyway, that is the beauty of poetry)

to me that sound more like the desire of a determined lover, who will pursue and not give up on love till death, if need be, but desire to cherish/enjoy every moment while there is opportunity.

^^^hahahahaha 

anyway, the thread has been somehow quiet lately, was expecting you to respond as soon as i post. You dont disappoint at all, do u?

Love in the air? Should have dedicated this to someone on d 14th, anyway not too late.

manny4life:
Most of your money went ot offsetting TRDAE DEFICITS and not propping Naira. These are two different meaning that is if "propping up Naira" has any economical sense. What you quoted said CBN dipped into foreign reserve to meet foreign exchange demand, so your money went to offsetting deficits. I hope that answered your question.

That means we are spending/consuming more than we are making, right? Why is that, especially at the time of oil boom?

Saga, how will those gbogbo big boys prove to their girlfriends dem betta pass you wey dey overseas if dem no pay more to see 2face than you'll pay to see Usher?

Next time you brag you are more intelligent, dem go remind you how much dem pay to see Dbanj compare to the chicken fee you paid to see Beyonce booty.

manny4life:
Just because Nigeria makes revenue of oil doesn’t mean it earned revenue. Even at that, we need more than just fixed asset income, we need volume. Oil ain’t just one of it; we earned revenues from the sale of oil, then what? That’s it?

You are not getting my point, I agree we need volume and real earnings from many other sources, other than oil revenue, but my concern is; why is the 'little' we are getting from oil not well accounted for? or should I say why am I not seeing any tangible thing its being spent on.

If from the same oil, we were able to safe billions under obj, paid our debts and built up ECA of over $30B, how come while we are still making money from oil, after exhausting the ECA, we now need to use our reserve to defend the value of Naira? What happened?

yeswecan:
Everything is wrong.

Our earning - my friend we have no real earnings. What we have is money derived from sale of our resources. Tell me a powerfull economy that achieved real growth - not figures- from selling off resources. Russia never really experienced growth until it moved into Production, now she is part of of emerging world not because of her gas but production and sales. Even all though the cold war years Russia was never an economic power because all she does was sell off resources without creating wealth.  Creation of wealth is what empowers the people, what creates the bourgeois needed to drive the economy. you sell off resources and share the money among governor and senators - use less than10 % of the amount sold for development and you are talking about economy. Economy is the system of production and distribution and consumption, we have none.  Don't be deceived.

We have to start allover again. Yes we need true capitalism in Nigeria where government gets out of the way and allow those who owns the oil sell them and pay tax for it, create policies that will make people flourish. The government needs to be hungry for the people's tax not people's resources.

manny4life:
I believe I have answered the same question previously. We lose billions because we don't have any revenues let alone earnings at all from export to balance our trade. @yeswecan answered most part of it. The sale of oil isn't a true source of earnings; it's just revenue. If I begin to explain now u would say I'm lecturing. Nigeria has no earnings (profit) is zero. Unless the govt starts earning (taxes, foreign devs, developments, investments, etc) other than sale of oil, we would continue to plummet and borrow etc. If the Naira fall, then you would wish the worse never happened.

Am not keen about those economic syntax or semantics. Fact remain we are making money (whether it is from sales, earnings, revenue or not). My concern is what have we done with that money? And what do we have to show for it? And why do need to spend more than that? on what?

For me we can not begin to to talk of real developments and building industries and infrastructures if we can not account for what we are making.

I was expecting us to see this as consequences of spending more than 70% of your budget on recurrent expenditures and having to borrow to to finance more than 50% of your capital expenditure. Our government is wasteful and we must cut down the cost of running government otherwise, whether we agree with IMF or not, if things continue this way, we will soon be carrying Naira on sacks to get $1000 because the reserve is bound to finish if we are not saving.

47, Name The nairalander famous for letting everyone knows he is better than them because he has a PHD and the statement he always uses.

fstranger3:
Sagamoron!

The statement or word? He often uses words like Reeetard, Mor-on, and Cretin

:::::Tell me something wey I know fit do:::::

lol

No, I think it's Nchara, not sure though.

At the risk of being accused of siding my girl ( of course i will side her), let me react to this:

Kobojunkie:
Let me help make it simpler for you. You are not dealing with kids but ADULTS. If you tell someone that HIS OWN insults reflect his upbringing, which is a fact, is that an insult? If this person has a problem with having this fact pointed out to him/her, then it is probably best for that person to stop insulting his/her own upbringing.

You do not need to mention someone's parent to prove the person is not well brought up. BTW, how do you know it is the fault of the parent and not that a child refuse knowledge? You can make your point without referring to the poster's parent.

Kobojunkie:
How many times do you need me to use that for you to get that I don't need to do that because there is actually a moderator  -- a room captain around whose job it is to see that everyone chats right,  not for me to TELL YOU who to go after and who not to. Unfortunately, the forum -- basically each and every page you read is filled with filth. Yes you are here to tell me I am not allowed to tell an ADULT with brains cells and thinking faculty intact that when he insults another, what he really is doing is insulting his upbringing --- his mama and papa??

Please, if you find it in the dictionary or some insult encyclopedia somewhere, please let me know and I will go back ask out ancestors if they really meant it that way.

The moderator can not afford to read all the posts, they will only know about an insulting post if they read the post because they are interested in the topic or if someone reports the post. If you want the moderators to  act, you have to keep reporting and even if for whatever reason they do not act, you still cannot take laws into your hands cos it is not your forum, you dont make the rules.

fstranger3:
Stop whining and Mukina is old to be your mother, flirting with her is going to get you no where

fstranger, even though I dubbed you the Balogun/Warrior title, next time you make such comment about my sweet sixteen babe, I will dethrone you and ban your 7 monikers at once.

fstranger3:
Eti bere si n p'ogede?

I fear for you oooooooooooooooooooooooo

If I have ever offended you, please forgive me ooooo

what you need to do is sacrifice.

I demand for 7 black and white sheep, 2 cows, 5 gallons of palm-oil, 2 kegs of palm-wine, 24 pieces of kolanut and 10yrds of while lace materials (you know ifa do no longer wear cheap cotton materials)

naijababe:
I think you mean Orunmila baba Agboniregun. The only connection according to the Odu is that Ifa learnt divination from Agboniregun, not sure of any other connection but I stand to be corrected.

Still remember this particular odu:

olu gbirin, osa gbirin loruko Orunmila

Orunmila baba ifa

ifa la o bo, orunmila la o bo

Katsumoto:
Naijababe is correct. Obatala is God; not a person. Nothing connects Orunmila and Agboniregun to Oduduwa. Yoruba people can not even agree on the origins of Oduduwa. I have my theory about Oduduwa.

You cannot claim to know the true origin of the Yorubas if you cannot trace their history to at least Orunmila and connect it to Oduduwa. I brought this up because you were at least able to state that there were Yorubas before Oduduwa and Oduduwa children only expanded Yoruba kingdom.

naijababe:
Apart from Obatala, no one else there is proclaimed as a deity. Ifa is largely regarded as Atona (guide), and Agboniregun supposedly inherited the science of divination from his father Orunmila, don't know how they are connected sha

Well I know ifa is a child or a grandchild to Orunmila. There is a part of odu that called Orunmila baba ifa.

What I heard was that Agboniregun children and grand children were the Yoruba people that received Oduduwa in Ile ife.

naijababe:
Accordingto Odu-Ifa
Obatala is the creator of humans and he gave power to Orunmila who is the father of Agboniregun who tutored Ifa on the science of divination

that is one of Yoruba myths that projects these people as deities, right?

but there is a faction of Yoruba history that connects them to Oduduwa and by large proclaim Obatala as the true founder of Yoruba race.

Katsumoto:
According to Oral traditions, when Oduduwa arrived at Ife, the ruler was called Oreluere and there were at least 5 rulers before Oreluere. Oduduwa's wife's name was Okanbi. There was an uprising at Ife and the rulers of Ife went on exile and migrated to present day Ugbo (Ilaje). Oduduwa was subsequently made king because of his skill in hunting and herbal medicine.

Oduduwa, though his sons expanded the Yoruba kingdom.

Clearly, there were Yoruba people at Ife before Oduduwa. I don't want to go into Oduduwa's origin as its still subject to controversy.

Who are these people below in Yoruba history? are they real people or just deities? If they are people where is their place in Yoruba history?

Obatala, Orunmila, Agbomiregun and Ifa

denzel2009:
Yelz, whats up matey?

Cant you see its becoming obvious that your girl busybody is suffering from insufficient kobokomycin, about time you give her a full load so she can rest and keep quiet for a while.