gregyboy: U just make me laff ..neither am gonna believe d fuckinf British write up yprubas also influence their writing so as the British did everything at thier best to demolished Benin so u don't expect to believe i would rather believe the benin who documented history through out again if oba of benin is a village king am just imgining d glorified ooni or alafin would be i know d female dahomey raped ur kingdom during war took ur people as slaves nupes caught ur empire under seizage for centuries ur shrine onni came from benin...
Village king hahaha i know you are high thats what ur moniker say
Tell me y ur kingdom is not z villagw rather than mine
davidnazee: Thank you bro for a very enlightening piece. I have asked them same question before when they said Aworis invited Benin. Why would the Aworis bypass all the Yorubas kingdoms and come to Benin? Even if it is true that Aworis came to Benin for help then doesn’t that proves Benin was a mightier, more powerful kingdom than all the Yorubas kingdoms and the Aworis must have seen Benin conquer and ruling over Yoruba lands hence it came to Benin for help.
The problem with the Yorubas is that no matter how much they lie and twist the truth their stories will always work against them and show that Benin was more powerful than Yoruba and ruled over the Yorubas.
Benin presence in Lagos was through the Portuguese,,,Portuguese had had 200 years of contact with the aworis before Benin ever stepping foot in Lagos 1682..Benin were not seafaring people how could they get to Lagos . .Portuguese were using Benin soldiers to control the trade route and also to capture slaves for the slave markets ....
davidnazee: I see that you are another misinformed Yoruba man or just twisting true accounts which is a common thing for the Yorubas.. Or should I say the Yorubas can only discuss history starting from post colonial Nigeria.
All these divisions you mentioned were created in recent times and didn't exit pre-colonial times.. I guess you know that but as usual will choose to lie about it. In earlier times the area know as Lagos was only restricted to the island of lagos and Iddo island. The main land part of lagos was unpopulated and wasn't part of Lagos till recent times. The Aworis who were mainly hunters and fishermen occupied the Iddo Island.. What is fairly certain is that the Awori settlement in Lagos was earlier than that of the Benin which eventually subjugated the emergent settlement. Lagos Island was an unoccupied territory at that time and did not belong to the Aworis, neither was main land Lagos Awori territory (you cannot claim an unoccupied area because you are close it).. The Yorubas were never part of Lagos. They migrated to the area when Lagos began to develop in a formidable settlement.
The Edo warriors were the first settlers on Lagos Island which served as a military camp and from there they carried out their expeditions in to west africa.. Over the years the warriors paved way for their families and also Edo traders to settle in Lagos Island and the camp began to take shape from just a military camp into a city.
Yoruba elements started migrating to and settled on the lagos mainland in later years after the Island of Lagos has become a booming city and trading center. As wars began plaguing the Yoruba lands more Yorubas started migrating to Lagos mainland till the danger of an attack by he warring tribes plaguing Yorubaland drove them to seek the security of the nearest island, Iddo, from where they spread to Eko. These Yoruba traders and war refugees were the first wave of Yorubas in Lagos. The second wave of Yorubas into Lagos were the returnee slaves. By 1851 after the abolition of the slave trade, there was a great attracton to Lagos by the repatriates. Mainly freed Yoruba captives and their descendants who have been set ashore in Sierra leone, responded to the pull of their homeland and returned in successive waves to Lagos. They were granted land to settle in areas of the island.
The areas of Badagry, Ikorodu and Epe Local Governments were never part of Lagos. These areas were only merged as part of Lagos by the British at the end of the 19th century.
Any history of Lagos always accounts the Aworis and the Edos as the first settlers of Lagos. The Aworis never identified as Yoruba hundreds of years ago, but were assimilated into the yoruba culture in later years. Yorubas are migrants to Lagos.. Yoruba lands closeness to Lagos accounts for its large numbers in Lagos..
As I always say; Lagos was founded by Benin Kingdom and built by the collective efforts and wealth of all Nigerians (Ibo, Hausas, etc).. If Nigeria breaks up as being drummed by some Yoruba elements, Lagos will be a war booty.
Ibo boy We dey wait for you na..bring the war we go show you what it takes to be Yoruba.. you people are morons ..Okay benin would fly over ijebus, ilajes to get to Lagos no evidence of route taken by Benin to get to Lagos ..They claimed they sent sea expedition to Lagos yet they are not seafaring people .. they were assisted by Portuguese to rule Lagos, Lagos was Portuguese colony long before the British ..major slave port in Africa the benin soldiers were used by the Portuguese to rule over Lagos
davidnazee: Maybe breakup will be better than living together and hating each other. And Yoruba can eat their music when we breakup becos nothing else for them. As for Lagos it will be a war booty becos the yarribas aren’t taking it. Edo has claim, igbos have claim even Hausas have claim.
you people are claiming Lagos we will see ..We have the Aworis in Lagos island and the mainland children of olofin from ile-ife ijebus water side in epe ,aja and ikorodu from and the gberefus egun people in badary ...we are waiting for you people ..
Moneywomen17: am an huge supporter of disintegration and at least regionalism where Yoruba can have their own army, and police force and control their border. But a war must happen for total disintegration or civil war cuz they way Nigeria today is set up with northerners having the upper hand in government they will never agree and if they never do and tension continue to rise like this there will be civil war that will do the job and I feel it’s only a matter of time.
WAR WAR!!!..Disintegration .....This primitive people are slowing us down .... We can't continue to live with people that have not fully evolved to be called human
am just telling u how different edos percieve the oduduwas story told by d yorubas....and i have been to different edo state... .is better u know how the edos stand in terms of thier perception to this story.am neither trying to divide the edos
dumb ass the oba is on seat receiving saraki the senate president of Nigeria ..retard!!!!.. i don't blame you. your brain is upside down you are drown in self acclaimed greatness ..yoruba are busy building empire around the world ..you people are here busy spitting venom like poisonous snake if the sting of termite pepper you for body bite your self to death because you are like a snake ....that poison you have in your mind within you against Yoruba will kill you and your generation... your bite or poisonous venom can't do nothing to us you na go strike you na self to death ...like it or not we are great people
steveosaz: Ignorant twatt. Where was your head when his father Olusola Saraki replied Bola Ige that they aren't Yoruba but according to him, they are hybrid of Fulani and yorrobber?
that was political statement and he didn't speak for the whole state or ilorin people what language is spoken in ilorin??Answer Yoruba .. there is nothing wrong in mixing of blood that is what make you people genetically weak less intelligent... hydrd of fulani ?
steveosaz: Is that what your crook of an ooni saw that made him to quickly go bowing down and prostrating to Fulani man Saraki? Slavery no go ever comot for Una body.
are you people myopic saraki na fulani? ..okay oni with saraki and other kwara state leader paying obeisance to oni risa
steveosaz: Tell that to your Igbo food suppliers. You are leeches feeding on others.All your states are depending on Niger Delta's oil for their sustenance. Lagos is a collective effort. Lagos was made by the colonialist then successive military governments in Nigeria. Let the federal government open up all sea ports in southern Nigeria with adequate facilities and see mass exodus of goods from Lagos. If Nigeria breaks, you lazy spineless minions would be sorry. Those oil companies hiding their HQs in Iagos would be forced to relocate to the Niger Delta or forfeit the regions oil.
You people can't do business in your own region, you can't also go out to other regions and excellent except to be engaging in amala and ewedu gossip. In Lagos, the igbos and other would be hustling and making money while the yorubas would be doing agbero, omo mobile, area boy, badoo. Yeye people.
yes the iboism is coming out i love this you people are killing your selves for little goodies your people are bring from south west ...your people are criminals high way robbers ..why you ibos or what you called your selves or edo can't stay in your land and hustle why? your land is cursed you can't live among yourselves you are animal you na enjoy southwest social life beast
steveosaz: Nothing like tolerant abeg. The igbos are basically feeding you lazy lot. You should be ashamed of yourself. You say they are making wealth off your backs. So what the hell were you guys looking at that you couldn't explore your so called 'wealth' that it now had to take the igbos to do for you.? Tomorrow you'll tell us the white man also is living off you jokers.
feed who?? i'm laughing ..Our land is filled with milk and honey you guys are derailed without southwest Nigeria is doomed...i know you guys are ibos ..Masquerading as edo oba go hex you for the shame you've brought to the kingdom. ..we are making history everyday you people are languishing in your delusional self acclaimed glory or past..
steveosaz: Nothing like tolerant abeg. The igbos are basically feeding you lazy lot. You should be ashamed of yourself. You say they are making wealth off your backs. So what the hell were you guys looking at that you couldn't explore your so called 'wealth' that it now had to take the igbos to do for you.? Tomorrow you'll tell us the white man also is living off you jokers.
feed who?? i'm laughing ..Our land is filled with milk and honey you guys are derailed without southwest Nigeria is doomed...i know you guys are ibos ..Masquerading as edo oba go hex you for the shame you've brought to the kingdom. ..we are making history everyday you people are languishing in your delusional self acclaimed glory or past..
davidnazee: Why is it that all your analysis of Yoruba history are those written by Yorubas themselves? Why don't you actually read thos not written by Yorubas. Go to the internet and study West African Kingdoms.. The only notable ones you will find are always Ghana, Mali, Songhai and the Mighty Kingdom of Benin.. All documents always describes Benin as "A Mighty and Imperial Kingdom".. Why do you think Benin is described like that?
mighty my foot ...your kingdom never an empire not known before coming of whites
steveosaz: Eeeyaa, relics of a failed empire again. Oga first, with all your so called first Nigeria and even worse the entire yprubaland is a shithole. Yorubaland is the ritual kidnap yahoo yahoo headquarters of Nigeria and indeed Africa.
lazy pigs, the igbos are still the ones developing your lands. Shameless people.
I was expecting you would say you are now on the same level with the whites. Dirtiest tribe in Africa.
Ndi offemmanu
ibo should be grateful we are accommodating to accept them and their shit ...saying they developing our land is rubbish they are benefit from us they are flocking to south west in mass monopolizing the trade done by the indigen prior to them coming we are the greatest consumer in Nigeria why can't they develop their own land why not edo they are making wealth off our back without yoruba they can't survive we are civilize ,tolerant we accept people
gregyboy: Sick boy lemme school you...throught out history btw yorubas nd edos ...yorubas just got d chance in a lifetime to rub itself with grt benin history by lending us our son ...which he came and ran like a yoruba coward that they trained him to he never got the chance to rule nor implement any of is yoruba customs in edo ...his son who he left behind had no knowledge him nd his custom he fellowed d edo custom....so now am asking how did yoruba custom come into edo Without any influence the only influence history recognised is the edo influenced on yorubas ,eko,akure,ekiti,ondo,ibadan so many to mention with these you should know our custom migrated through that
The first pics is a priest at the oba shrine while the other is from the west replicating the first now tell me logically who transfered the custom nd religion out of one
Yoruba introduced beads making to edo ..Beads making is from yoruba land ile-ife to be specific the culture is from is from ile-ife is not Benin okay Mr man. seeing Olo owo adorned himself in beads doesn't make him from edo or influenced by edo you can see his breeches is adorned with beads not skirt like the edos and his faced is covered with beads ..All the ivory carving in your kingdom were done my owo craft men...""iyun ""beads making is family lineage in yoruba land...Adorning oneself with beads symbolize royalty in yoruba land is part of culture of ile-ife ..is an archaic way of dressing and its ceremonial.. ..Red Coral beads that is peculiar to the Benin were brought by the Portuguese ...
steveosaz: Imagine this dick headed fucker! You have proved only to be thieves and crooks. We have clearly rendered you bleeps to be trashbin scavengers.
If anything, inferiority complex is clearly your problem. The Edos would never take a people conquered and ruled by the Fulani serious and worse still, those who don't know their history and allow sons of slaves to become thier kings.
Ekaladerhan is your progenitor and you will continue to bow to him as long as you bow to Oduduwa. Hahaha... Losers.
edo has no glorious past compare to yoruba race then and now....accept it or die ..
gregyboy: Its sad reading all through the comment Yoruba's Are having upper hand shutting the edos down only money4woman is doing a good job for the yorubas...
Thats why the whole 36 state will continue to believe on this fairytales of thiers even arguing with a calabar boy recently he took the side of d yorubas untill i showed him reality from fairytale
Yorubas are using fairytales and edos is using the same fairytales with them they are the master of it .....they will win in fairytale instead edos shld attack with prove nd logic ....example oyo was never an empire obatala never existed ,oduduwa is a benin prince with prove to them
monkey man shot up and read more stop bringing out jargon from your deform skull and little brain
Favor99: There’s a lot of hateful people here on nairalander. There all over nairaland saying all kinds of foolish stuff. What tribe are you? But yes we should unite. Enlightenment is key Our people one, need to know how badly oyinbos hate us and that were in this together.
People also need to stop watching TV movies and all this mind control stuff that brainwashed us and whitewashes us.
We need to restructure everything
you people started it.. abusing us out of jealousy yet you people can't do without us you live in our land make money riches in our land yet you people hate us ..we are playing your abusive game with you now you are preaching bullshit ....they are more ibos and edos in southwest more than their various states..they've encroached somuch on us little allocation given to us is not enough and their state are all ghost cities no one is living there
davidnazee: You are really patient listening to these Yoruba weaklings whose ancestors gave them a weak and failed history as legacy.. Their history is filled with subjugation and conquest by Benin kingdom who ruled them for over 500years.. Bro we ruled these guy for over 500 years.. That's why they are so pained and angry at Edo people forgetting that in life there has to be a conqueror and the conquered.. Lucky for us we were the conqueror..
And that Olu is talking about economic power and awareness.. Edo state is richer and more developed than all Yoruba states (lagos is not yoruba state) and Edo people are on the average more exposed and and aware than the Yorubas.
You people are genetically less evolved which can be seen in you people animalistic and barbaric behavior your cognitive development can't be compared to yoruba, is scientifically proven ..the little intelligent you people have or posses is through genetically pool contributed by the Yorubas .even down south to delta state through the lukumis . we are first in everything in Nigeria first graduate, first doctor first engineer, mathematician ..go to to sankore University yoruba Islamic scholars were teaching there before the white men ever set foot in Africa our forefather foot print are seen and present are felt as far Sudan, mali ghana Senegal ,Mauritania ..little the world know about your kingdom is through the white man where as yoruba were known before white man ever coming to Africa ..Ibn Battuta African historian and world traveler wrote about yoruba and oyo ..
davidnazee: I see you are still reading the script given to you by your white masters to whom u humbly surrendered your destiny and also aided them in robbing Africa.. Do you know that the first Yoruba man to start selling Africa lands and heritage to the white man was Akintoye of Lagos? Do you know that after that Oyo sold themselves followed by the Ijebus?
Please did Brazilian government sign documents with Oni to acknowledge the Brazilian state as part of Yoruba nation? or is it just word of mouth from a slave Oni you guys are excited about? The Igbos have long been declaring everywhere there are Igbos majority as part of Igbo nations and installing monarchs there.. Na now una start and u are celebrating lol..
you people will be merged/ join with the ibos at last, we don't know you people again ..100 yrs ago your forefathers see the yoruba as their cousin, now you people see us as your enemy ...when biafra run over your city without resistance na small yoruba boys that enlisted into the army voluntary as young as 15yrs/yrs16 that liberated your kingdom yet you people hate ...Nigeria we break and you na go be slave to the eastern soon..
prolog2: A person with half a brain knows how to use the zoom option. Liars are often very dumb. Why would those places be bearing those names in that period of time ? It is as if you guys are brainless bots. How dumb can one be ?
davidnazee: Which past?? A past that is filled with Edo conquests and suzerainty over your tribe? Or a present in which Edo State is more developed and richer than almost all Yoruba states? I pity you. Express don leave u since.
BabaRamota1980: A true Empire, a civilized people know their history throughly and then know the history of their neighbours as well. Why is it Yoruba is teaching Edo its history and that of its neighbors? Because they are uncivilized. Can you believe they had no clue that their palace face mask is in posession of Attah. They were at first arguing until we proved it.
Nupe and Yoruba, Baruba and Yoruba, Kanuri and Yoruba.....even Daura, yes...the Hausa Origin in Daura....hold on let me say this clearly.
There are two sets of people in Nigeria, the Aborigines and the Immigrants.
Ife aborigines (Ugbo), Nupe aborigines, Igala aborigines, Edo aborigenes (Efa), Ijaw aborigines, Ibo aborigines (ngwa), all these people have one root and that is the Niger-Benue basin.....these were descendants of NOK.
The traces of commonality in spoken language of Southern people have its roots in the Niger-Benue clan.
Then there is a band of Nilotic/Semitic settlers that arrived in waves. These ones brought with them king-priest covenants.
They entered here through the Chad water basin and settled there. A band of them remained in Chad. The rest moved down to the Niger-Benue water basin and remained there.
There were two distribution paths.
1. The Chad band spread westward into another water basin in Daura. From here they formed the Habe dynasty. The group that remained in Chad formed the Kanemi dynasty.
2. The Niger-Benue settlers went westward as well. They stopped on the Niger River. From here they broke into three directions.
a. Nupe b. Baruba c. Ile Ife
Each had its dynasty.
The Ile Ife party formed Oduduwa dynasty. They are known as Yoruba.
The Ife dynasty further spread out into the East, including Bini. Bini also gave spring to more dynasties.
So all the aborigines now have foreign settlers ruling over them. How about Ngwa?
A band of Nilotic people had also migrated further away from Chad and down into the Congo basin. This group are nomadic. Some of them settled in Cameroun and others found their way into Nigeria and into the Ngwa land. Strangely, they had no dynasty and did not establish rulership. This due to the fact the settlers were hunters, not Kings or Priests. This set is the Igbo clan. Their King and Priests were left behind in Congo.
Similar movement occurred with Awori, a priest lineage that went and found new settlements on the coast but did not set up dynasty but Bini came afterward and extended its dynasty to rule over them. Bini dynasty also ruled a part of Iboland.
There is strong link between these tribes bariba/borgu, nupe , igala/,bornu and yoruba...
davidnazee: Which past?? A past that is filled with Edo conquests and suzerainty over your tribe? Or a present in which Edo State is more developed and richer than almost all Yoruba states? I pity you. Express don leave u since.
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