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[quote author=davidnazee post=68150617]another deranged Yoruba man.. welcome to the forum, I hope u have your own deranged points to give oo.[/quo


you need to get your head out of your ass mr david..you are going nut

davidnazee:
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.

stop there..you are derailing MR big mouth ..Arabs ...

davidnazee:
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.

Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.

stop there..you are derailing MR big mouth ..Arabs ...

samuk:
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.

i don't need to look up the date i said 1500s contact with African contact benin 1550..you said 1400s after you said 1485..

but in the late 1400 they were navigating the Africa coast

davidnazee:
Mugu mugu.. where did the name Bight of Benin come from? Oh so the name Bight of Benin existed before Benin was discovered by the Europeans?
Chai!! If you mugus are Yoruba champions then we Edos are a superior race to you.

after they circum navigated the whole African bight of benin was born from source from Portuguese explorer record account giving by Portuguese explorer even dahomey togo ghana bony were called bight of benin . because the map of africa was created from Portuguese source and the first hinter land contact Portuguese will have is with the benin kingdom creating the map they name the region bight of benin

samuk:
You are the fool and confused one here, go and read your post again. You wrote 1500 and not 15th century, I was the one that wrote 1400s and you disputed it. Who was the king the European wrote about when they got to Lagos, provide international sources not the one written by fellow ignoramus like you.

you were trading in pepper what year ...you were the last to be contacted stop spurting rubbish bight of Benin is different from benin city fool the Portuguese were in contact with Lagos Badagry years before stepping foot on benin soil they get to know about benin from the itsekiri..hinter land was in the 1500

trading started in the 1500 at it peak 1550

MetaPhysical:
Benin did not settle in Lagos untill 1600s. Lagos was never part of Benin. Benin had a throne in Lagos to protect against invasions from Dahomey.

Benin did not fight the owners of Lagos, they were invited to secure their farms and lands against invasions from Dahomey. If the original invitation to Oyo had been honored Oyo would be the throne, not Benin.

Benin was on a trading expedition to Ghana as i read they were attacked by the aworis for stepping foot on their soil the expendition was halted they turned back to benin after getting to Benin they narrated the story to oba benin , oba sent his son ado a renown warrior with his elite soldier to attack Lagos as reprisal for the insult on him when the aworis cited ado they knew he was a prince and ife from his regalia they offer to make ado the king of lagos being a lineage of oduduwa ..ado could spaek yoruba fluently

samuk:
You are all over the place and unable to make up your mind. You manufacture your version of history on the go.

You said European didn't get to Africa till 1500, when I pointed you to the fact that they were already in Benin by 1485, you are now saying they got to Lagos before Benin, how would you know that if you didn't even know when Europeans first arrived Africa. When European got to Lagos, Lagos was under and part of Benin Kingdom, itsekiri was part of Benin Kingdom with Benin city as capital.

15 century is 1400 1500 they explore hinterland ,they were navigating the coastal region the late 15 century 1400 .before exploring the hinterland after they had already circum navigated Africa their main expectoration was to trade with indian if they had contacted the benin in 1484 so you were ruling Lagos 1400..when the first lagos king was in 1600 right ..you are a clone ..

MetaPhysical:
Very true!

Portuguese had trading posts in Wydah and Aworis were already exchanging trades with them through the Badagry creeks.

Lagos waters

samuk:
The first European travelers to reach Benin were Portuguese explorers in about 1485. A strong mercantile relationship developed, with the Edo trading tropical products such as ivory, peppers and palm oil with the Portuguese for European goods such as manila and guns. In the early 16th century, the Oba sent an ambassador to Lisbon, and the king of Portugal sent Christian missionaries to Benin City. Some residents of Benin City could still speak a pidgin Portuguese in the late 19th century.

The first English expedition to Benin was in 1553, and significant trading developed between England and Benin based on the export of ivory, palm oil and pepper. Visitors in the 16th and 17th centuries brought back to Europe tales of "the Great Benin", a fabulous city of noble buildings, ruled over by a powerful king. However, the Oba began to suspect Britain of larger colony designs and ceased communications with the British until the British Expedition in 1896-97 which resulted in a weakned Benin Empire.

Portuguese had a port in Lagos strategics point for their navigation and exploration before heaven seeing you mongrels.. claim of them helping you is false


lagoas was in contact with the Portuguese before you even before



A 17th century Dutch engraving from Olfert Dapper's Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten, published in Amsterdam in 1668 wrote:

The king's palace or court is a square, and is as large as the town of Haarlem and entirely surrounded by a special wall, like that which encircles the town. It is divided into many magnificent palaces, houses, and apartments of the courtiers, and comprises beautiful and long square galleries, about as large as the Exchange at Amsterdam, but one larger than another, resting on wooden pillars, from top to bottom covered with cast copper, on which are engraved the pictures of their war exploits and battles..."
—Olfert Dapper, Nauwkeurige Beschrijvinge der Afrikaansche Gewesten
Another Dutch traveller was David van Nyendael who in 1699 gave an eye-witness account.

The Legions of Benin


Copper sculpture from Benin showing the mix of weapons that co-existed side by side during the colonial era. Note firearms in the right hand of one figure, and traditional swords held by others.

The kingdom of Benin offers a snapshot of a relatively well-organized and sophisticated African polity in operation before the major European colonial interlude. Military operations relied on a well trained disciplined force. At the head of the host stood the Oba of Benin. The monarch of the realm served as supreme military commander. Beneath him were subordinate generalissimos, the Ezomo, the Iyase, and others who supervised a Metropolitan Regiment based in the capital, and a Royal Regiment made up of hand-picked warriors that also served as bodyguards. Benin's Queen Mother also retained her own regiment, the "Queen's Own." The Metropolitan and Royal regiments were relatively stable semi-permanent or permanent formations. The Village Regiments provided the bulk of the fighting force and were mobilized as needed, sending contingents of warriors upon the command of the king and his generals. Formations were broken down into sub-units under designated commanders. Foreign observers often commented favorably on Benin's discipline and organization as "better disciplined than any other Guinea nation", contrasting them with the slacker troops from the Gold Coast.



Until the introduction of guns in the 15th century, traditional weapons like the spear and bow held sway. Efforts were made to reorganize a local guild of blacksmiths in the 18th century to manufacture light firearms, but dependence on imports was still heavy. Before the coming of the gun, guilds of blacksmiths were charged with war production—–particularly swords and iron spearheads.



Benin's tactics were well organized, with preliminary plans weighed by the Oba and his sub-commanders. Logistics were organized to support missions from the usual porter forces, water transport via canoe, and requisitioning from localities the army passed through. Movement of troops via canoes was critically important in the lagoons, creeks and rivers of the Niger Delta, a key area of Benin's domination. Tactics in the field seem to have evolved over time. While the head-on clash was well known, documentation from the 18th century shows greater emphasis on avoiding continuous battle lines, and more effort to encircle an enemy (ifianyako).

Fortifications were important in the region and numerous military campaigns fought by Benin's soldiers revolved around sieges. As noted above, Benin's military earthworks are the largest of such structures in the world, and Benin's rivals also built extensively. Barring a successful assault, most sieges were resolved by a strategy of attrition, slowly cutting off and starving out the enemy fortification until it capitulated. On occasion however, European mercenaries were called on to aid with these sieges. In 1603–04 for example, European cannon helped batter and destroy the gates of a town near present-day Lagos, allowing 10,000 warriors of Benin to enter and conquer it. In payment the Europeans received one woman captive each and bundles of pepper. The example of Benin shows the genius of indigenous military systems, but also the role outside influences and new technologies brought to bear. This is a normal pattern among many nations and was to be reflected across Africa as the 19th century dawned.





The city and empire of Benin declined after 1700. By this time, European activity in the area, most notably through the Trans-Atlantic slave-trade, resulted in major disruptive repercussions. However, Benin's power was revived in the 19th century with the development of the trade in palm oil and textiles. To preserve Benin's independence, bit by bit the Oba banned the export of goods from Benin, until the trade was exclusively in palm oil.

Benin resisted signing a protectorate treaty with Britain through most of the 1880s and 1890s. However, after Benin discovered Britain's true intentions, eight unknowing British representatives, who came to visit Benin were killed. As a result a Punitive Expedition was launched in 1897. The British force, under the command of Admiral Sir Harry Rawson, razed and burned the city, destroying much of the country's treasured art and dispersing nearly all that remained. The stolen portrait figures, busts, and groups created in iron, carved ivory, and especially in brass (conventionally called the "Benin Bronzes" are now displayed in museums around the world.

Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin

Portuguese had a port in Lagos " named lagos by them" strategic point for their navigation and exploration i doubt if they would assist you mongrels in destroying Lagos

samuk:
With this your writeup, you exposed yourself as an ignoramus and unable to learn. A simple Google search would have told you that the European arrived and wrote about Benin as far back as the year 1485 and when they arrived the Benin defensive moat was already in place. If this is your level of knowledge, then it's a complete waste of time debating you. I hope your other compatriots on these thread are not as stupid as you are, no wonder you are throwing insults all over the place, you have nothing in your brain.

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you pride your self in ignorance .typical of edoid clan

samuk:
With this your writeup, you exposed yourself as an ignoramus and unable to learn. A simple Google search would have told you that the European arrived and wrote about Benin as far back as the year 1485 and when they arrived the Benin defensive moat was already in place. If this is your level of knowledge, then it's a complete waste of time debating you. I hope your other compatriots on these thread are not as stupid as you are, no wonder you are throwing insults all over the place, you have nothing in your brain.

ouch you said 14 century ...Christopher Columbus was born Before or after 31 October 1451.. Europe made contact with Africa in the 1500s please and Benin around 1550


Vasco da Gama was born on1460 or 1469
Sines, Alentejo, Kingdom of Portugal

samuk:
In my earlier submission I stated that Yoruba as a nation is a modern day contraption, if not why else will Ilorin and Ekiti connive to fight and reject Ibadan leadership of the Yoruba race. If these people shared a common heritage there shouldn't have been problem accepting Ibadan, instead Ilorin and Ekiti connive with the Muslims to fight Ibadan according to you. You just prove my point that you were all different tribes fighting and killing each others until politicians and politics brought you together.

haha ibadan over stepped it's boundary firstly Ibadan had no oba ..Ibadan was just a war camp no direct lineage of the one living deity and they dare step on ile-ife soil .. ilesha sent his soldier to fight the ibadan and ijebu too sent 50 thousand soldier to ile-ife to protect ife.. that should show you how we revered ile-ife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtY9qWXZ8jA

Olu317:
Funny lad you are.So you Yoruba K'OYA? Anyway, kudos for your interest in all these. And like Babaramata1980 had informed you, each Yoruba person you find on here definitely showcase individualism with creativity,when such person inform and does not necessarily mean absurd bitterness but to set the record straight,for people who might stumble on any of these thread in the future. This is the reason we all strive to inform via research and oral information passed down. Even you as a person, kept blundering because you do not know much but hung your appraisal only on Oyo . What you know and acknowledged as power of Shango, which is thunder had existed before Shango lived . In fact, before Oranmiyan was even born , Àra-mfe (IFE's thunder) had being in existence, so you need read more and learn more ,because this is absolutely incoherent with the truth. To buttress more on it, there are Yorubas that can trap Shango's most potent( thunder) power without it hurting anyone . Outside, this, Shango is not worshipped in all yoruba enclave because,he was acknowledged as a descendant of Oranmiyan , a king in Oyo, for his charms( Herbology) prowess and developing the Oyo's military might . Lastly ,there are many groups that have been championing Yoruba course for a long time and result will definitely creep up soon. And cohesion will definitely take place at the right time.

aramfe is the god of thunder ...sango is AKA god of thunder He was declared to be god of thunder due to his knowledge of electrical force and conjuring of Thunder and fire ..to me he was more a scientist rather than a mystical being he made fire explosive from kolaanuts which is practicable " Sango the irumole descended from heaven like the other irumoles they are the force governing the earth ..ogun the god of iron the first god ""irumole "that paved way for or "irumole" forces to the world is at the core of the earth ..core of the earth is made up of iron..

steveosaz:
Obalufon or whatever you call yourself, you are a lost soul. If truly you are from Oduduwa's line which is really doubtful, then it can only mean one thing; and that is that you are another lost Edo pikin cocooned in Ile Ife. But we don't want you back because you have used your left hand to point to your father's house which is a taboo

we are your forefather accept it ..the problem is language barrier if you were yoruba speaking you would not doubt my claim..tower of ba.bel is in ile-ife no bilical story that is not in ile-ife ..Yoruba was not the only language spoken ile-ife in the beginning ILE-IFE the ancient source of human race ...new findings by scientist yoruba gene contain DNA not known to man and our DNA is the oldest DNA in the world .. why do you think akoko edo still claim ile-ife and have oriki in yoruba language rather than their local dialect even in akoko in ondo

samuk:
If Yoruba people actually believe your writeup above, why are you strenuously trying to denigrate the globally acclaimed and acknowledged exploits of the Benin Kingdom? Why not join others and celebrate it as one of yours and there should really be no need for what looks like jealousy on your part, your reaction should have just been okay whatever we are all the same people anyway so no beef, but no you are trying so much to belittle the same people you claimed to have given birth to. If really Yoruba gave birth to Benin civilisation, why begrudge her, it's every parents wish for their children to achieve greater heights than them. The only reason you refused to acknowledge Benin greatness is because you know there was no way a conservative Benin who does not even honour a no native with a chieftaincy title will then willingly invite a Prince they have no connection whatsoever with to come and become their king. What you guys should concentrate your research on is what was the nature of the connection between early Ife and Igodomigodo. It's also obvious that all entities that made up the Yoruba nation today were once in the past viewed as different people, otherwise there wouldn't have been so much war between them. You never hear or read that Benin attacked Ife and Oyo and the itsekiris and the Uhrobos because these people where all seen has people that shared same heritage with Benin from the days of Igodomigodo. Why where there so much war between the so called Yoruba people in the past and why was there so much wars Benin and eastern Yoruba and the establishment of the Lagos monarchy? And no Benin invasion of Oyo or Ife. If truth be told the earliest the word Yoruba enter the global lexicon was in the 1800s thanks to Bishop Ajayi Crowder who is the father of modern Yoruba, in contrast the name Benin has been in global lexicon and European writeups as early as the 1400s.

are you moronic Christopher Columbus father had not been born yet in the 1400 century...

steveosaz:
Hahaha, small, dirty stinking stretch of land and someone is here busy mentioning empire. When we talk of empires, names like the Roman, Greek and the British empire come to mind, not some assemblage of village chiefs in Oyo who were disgraced by the nomadic Fulani's. That's no empire.

read basic west Africa history atleast you will have basic knowledge of history you are talking base on sentiments nothing more .,.you are genetically backward people in comparison to yoruba race is a known fact accept it or not "the fact are out their" ..you people have beast like troublesome behavior with no cognitive capacity it shows way of life also in your ancient art work savage heads with fearsome look

...ibadan fulani war 1840 5yrs after ilorin was taken by the Muslim yorubas with the help of fulanis scholars oyo lost it prestigious northern city ilorin without cavalry northern garrison oyo is useless, after their victory capturing ilorin they tried to expand their territory over other cities in yoruba..Ibadan smoked them out with punitive fire of guns at it's knife savvy swords men .if other yoruba nations had accepted Ibadan ruler ship they would have chased the Muslim out of ilorin.. ilorin and ekiti connive to fight Ibadan because of its growing strength and military might also to the south was incursion of egbas and ijebu were also fighting Ibadan

[quote author=steveosaz post=68129147]If I didn't know Nigeria's story too well, I would have probably given this your comment a like�, But sorry, that's not gonna happen. Though, very familiar storyline I must say, only that you changed the actors. Now here's the real story;

Prior to independence, the Fulani's stuck their dick up Yoruba ass; raped you and took your daughter(Ilorin) as a sex slave(hehehe, they still bitch f#@king Ilorin's ass till date). They then kicked the ass of those your deadwood gods and pierced your damn hands with the sword of jihad and bonded them together with the Koran...wonderful ain't it?
Then the white man came and said; hey y'all niggers, that would just do, we run the show from here now(you should really thank the whites for bandaging your ass, oh, don't thank them just yet). And guess what? They preferred the fulani(your husband) and gave them every damn thing. While the British were kicking Yoruba kings asses(remember what they did in Lagos and to Kings in Oyo?), they were busy setting up a strong aristocracy up north as worthy successors to rule your generations(and that's been happening).
Then the white man says in 1960; Alright buoys, it's time to say good bye, it's been a memorable ride and worthwhile too all these years(but that wasn't until after they had ensured the power was handed over to their knighted successor-the north-yoruba husband and nightmare).
Then came the dawn of another episode of rape. They (fulani)f#@ked Awo in the ass until they f#@ked him right into prison(oh yes, and we must not forget that they did so with the help of a treacherous Yoruba demon-SL Akintola. O wa Lara yin).
Awo got out of prison and teamed up again with his husband- the north. He would eventually resign his position out of frustration when it became clear the northern soldiers weren't going to give him the presidency as they had earlier promised(a promise that made him do a hatchet job against the Biafrans- wait to see their epic payback to him)
Fast forward to 1979, Obasanjo, a Yoruba and Awolowo's kinsman is head of state(though a northern stooge) and he organizes an election. Awolowo quickly seizes the opportunity to achieving a lifetime ambition of becoming president. But not so fast, how can you become president when the British haven't appointed you so? The beautiful bride(Fulani) are still very much around. Anyway back to the matter. So Awo goes in with high hope(though he was only to come out with a high BP). Rewind back to 1967-70; civil war and Awo's role(the hatchet job), it was now time for a cool payback (dayum, karma's such a bitch). Now the Igbo's pitched their tent with Yoruba husband(Fulani) and once again they both raped and ANALized both Awo and the Yoruba. And who did the Yoruba blame? He he, good boy Obasanjo for choosing not to rig in Awo's favor.
Again in 1983, Awo and the Yoruba got a big bad dick in the ass(Hey, that's not the worst yet...hang on). Then Buhari(Fulani) and his soldier boys show up and say, alright everyone, it's time to pack up and go. An in a bad twist of events, The Fulani Buhari begins to rape Yoruba ass one more time(only that this time, in a most degrading way). He would go on to arrest Yoruba leaders like Bisi Onabanjo, Bola Ige, Adekunle Ajasin, Bisi Akande and the big fish - good, old Awo who was not a government official and was nursing a major electoral defeat induced heart attack. But remember the Akintola treachery (a ni o wa Lara yin), Buhari was aided this time around again by another Afonja descendant - Tunde Idiagbon.
Then in 1987 good old Awo suddenly kicked the bucket mysteriously. Some say he took the portion which in local parlance they call rat poison, which was adviced by Babangida as a way out rather than prison sentence after Lateef Jakande(an Awoist has ratted to IBB about Awo's plot to have him overthrown) - treachery again.
With Awo out, another fish steps into the pond, but is it really a fish, or its just suya for the Fulani? Anyway, the fish was no other than the Aare Ona Kakanfo himself, the man at the center of the Fela 'international thief thief, ITT' song. Abeg who im be? No vex, na MKO Abiola.
IBB conducts an election and MKO wins at least that's what we were told (who dash monkey banana), but trust Fulani wayo. This time, they gave Yoruba the biggest dick in the ass. Yoruba ass hasn't closed ever since. They didn't only annul MKO's victory, IBB steps off in the heat of the whole saga and calls in another AWO, MKO kinsman from Ogun state(Shonekan) to head an illegal government. Well, 80 days later, the north(Yoruba husband says it's time for another dick) they say to Shonekan, 'bros, e don do. Your village people in Ogun state are calling you'. And that's how Sani Abacha steps in and rapes Yoruba for another five years. Kills Kudirat, and many others, ruled with a stiff fist, kicks Obasanjo's ass, kick's Oladipo Diya's ass, Kicks Abdulkareem Adisa's ass until the US says 'we've had enough punk' and they give him the last apple he ever tasted in this world. Then comes Abdulsalam Abubakar who everyone thought was going to be different and release MKO(for where?) With the collaboration of the US, he brings out the biggest Fulani dick so far and f#@ks the Yoruba in the ass one more time(oohh... that ass gotta bleed). The man literally kills MKO in prison, but that was not before he settled some Afenifere boys like Bola Ige and Abraham Adesanya (no be me talk am o, na Al Mustapha). Then Yoruba brings out False and reject OBJ as per old wounds. The north decides to reward OBJ for being a worthy and a diligent servant and he wins the presidency. Tinubu would only succeed in getting his party to win a presidential election after he fields a failed Fulani(Buhari) who had been known as a serial election loser. But wait! Was this not the same Buhari who kicked Yoruba leaders' asses into jail in 1984 while keeping Shagari in a palatial prison called house arrest with the Yoruba vowing never to forgive Buhari? Lol... These people and double face sha, no be today ooo.
Now the next thing is restructuring and the Fulani have said they ain't giving you that.

So Mr, if anyone has been raped the most in this country, its clearly the Yoruba. The Fulani have practically married your tribe. Yoruba is currently walking around butt naked with Fulani dick sticking out of her ass.[/quote

i don die ..you are as stupid as your race how many fulani dey for ilorin ..what language is spoken in ilorin? is it fulbe? they speak confirm yoruba even the emir has a yoruba name and will speak yoruba fluently ..Islamic dressing doesn't make you Fulani.. it was yoruba Muslim fighting yoruba nothing more than that the majority are the Yoruba and the Hausa slaves in a band of fulani scholars ilorin them freed by afonja to fight alafin ...in islam no ethnicity you are brothers as far as you are muslim you are equal ilorin then see little Fulani scholars with them as brothers and help then recruiting other fulani to fight war after the death of afonja alimi was made chief imam.. ..if you know the power of religion you won't be saying that rubbish . ,,the emir is a symbol of islam nothing more the culture still remain yoruba

davidnazee:
Mugu go ask your brothers about Nupe invasion of Oyo. Oyo no get levels..
Nupe ended the first Oyo Kingdom, chased away ur monarchy and ruled Oyo for 100yrs..
The Bariba were even the ones that helped set up the second Oyo which later died painfully..

oyo took the war to them first .oramiyan was even given a wife, nupe borgu ,igala and yoruba are cousins . nupes they were under oyo for long years .oyo was a beautiful bride then to the nupes the were successful in burning the old capital oyo relocated their capital and came back stronger with much force to chase them out read history

davidnazee:
Shut up.. which sense did ur senseless brother make?
Ijebu was under Benin rule..
our soldiers were always ferried to Lagos by the ijaw edos.. they acted as navy.
Keep deceiving yourselves and silently cursing your ancestors.. anytime you search archives you will always see Benin owns Lagos yet ur jealousy won’t let you accept that fact. Keep on fighting yourselves, those records and accounts will remain in archives forever and future Yoruba descendants will always read it that “Benin owns Lagos and Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba “..

if you don't stop this bullshit you will hexed for life ..why would compare primitive skirt wearing forest people to ijebu Benin lil city ruling ruling ijebu " you are a bastard " a well orginized people as ijebu ..Benin navy benin navy my ass where is your sea ? ..you na fit swim.. you na get river self not to talk of sea ..ijebu is water borne..ijebu water side haven't you heard of it ...epe in lagos taste is ijebu

Olu317:
shut the Bleep up. I am a patrilineal descendant of Oranmiyan. And a proud Father of a twin. I am an Orisa . Ifa testified to it.....Stop distorting my history.

Orisha reveals its self more secrete to whom worship it in sincerity ..King sango initiated into Sango .his not a novice is right likewise you to olu he revered his god so respect his opinion ..Orisha is like a big elephant different people see in different form.....I'm direct descendant of Oduduwa from ile-ife

[quote author=EdoNation post=68099899] I see a lot of rotten stinky ewedu on this thread ; ...you be ibo useles man..ewedu as if edo no dey eat ewedu even auch idey eat am go agbede akoko ede

davidnazee:
See yorubas using igalas as their talking point.. it shows u have no legacy of ur own. Shame lol
Anyways I will treat the igala issue later but now I’m focusing on Edo people conquest and subjugation of the Yoruba race.
Enjoy the post below, more are coming.

stop posting this bogus write up ..oyo was an empire not kingdom

[quote author=davidnazee post=68099613]I know it’s painful.. ur heart must be breaking now and worst still I’m enjoying torturing you.. anyways see screenshot of what I wrote earlier and after u read it pls tell the nearest person to you make he give u hard knock for your head..
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you lack knowledge 1825 oyo had had it glorious time was on its way down declining..ibadan dealt with the ilorins read history

davidnazee:
See more brushing for Oyo.. chai! poor Oyo.

oyo had weaken then prior to than oyo had ruled them for other 2 centuries

Olu317:
Funny lad you are.So you Yoruba K'OYA? Anyway, kudos for your interest in all these. And like Babaramata1980 had informed you, each Yoruba person you find on here definitely showcase individualism with creativity,when such person inform and does not necessarily mean absurd bitterness but to set the record straight,for people who might stumble on any of these thread in the future. This is the reason we all strive to inform via research and oral information passed down. Even you as a person, kept blundering because you do not know much but hung your appraisal only on Oyo . What you know and acknowledged as power of Shango, which is thunder had existed before Shango lived . In fact, before Oranmiyan was even born , Àra-mfe (IFE's thunder) had being in existence, so you need read more and learn more ,because this is absolutely incoherent with the truth. To buttress more on it, there are Yorubas that can trap Shango's most potent( thunder) power without it hurting anyone . Outside, this, Shango is not worshipped in all yoruba enclave because,he was acknowledged as a descendant of Oranmiyan , a king in Oyo, for his charms( Herbology) prowess and developing the Oyo's military might . Lastly ,there are many groups that have been championing Yoruba course for a long time and result will definitely creep up soon. And cohesion will definitely take place at the right time.

aramfe is the god of thunder ...sango is AKA god of thunder He was declared to be god of thunder due to his knowledge of electrical force and conjuring of Thunder and fire ..to me he was more a scientist rather than a mystical being he made fire explosive from kolaanuts which is practicable " Sango the irumole descended from heaven like the other irumoles they are the force governing the earth ..ogun the god of iron the first god ""irumole "that paved way for other "irumoles" forces to the world is at the core of the earth without it the earth will not be in balance state to support life ..core of the earth is made up of iron..

davidnazee:
Another Yoruba feel good tale again oo..
which ancient traditional council are u talking about?
Where was the alaffin when Nupe invaders chased away Oyo monarchy and ruled for 100yrs? Where was alaffin when Dahomey women was beating Oyo anyhow? Where was alaffin when Benin Kingdom was busy conquering and claiming all of Eastern Yoruba?
Please stop this rubbish story.

100yrs ? some is going bunkers here... nupe never ruled oyo you are sick

BabaRamota1980:
Metaphysical has already clarified that and asked them to name who they fought in Lagos to conquer the land. They are unable to answer, they doded him but kept blabbing about owning Lagos.

When King Kosoko waged war against British the Idejo Chiefs, Aworis, vacated town. They left town for the king and his Abagbon chiefs to defend. They said by tradition they do not fight wars.

So who did Ashipa fight in early 1600 when he setled Lagos....and why did he have to ask for land from Aromire if indeed Benin conquered Lagos?

Historians are missing the point. 1600s was the period that Dahomey was waging wars on Egba, Borgu, Oyo.

Dahomey sought to control trade and commerce routes. The Egbas, the Ijebus, Popos tolled the routes between the coast and hinterland. Dahomey wanted to dominate the coastal line all way to Mahin, the popular salt mine under Ijebu control.

This was part of their reason for wars with Egba but the Egbas were not marine society. So Dahomey would steal through Whydah via the Lagoon and penetrate to Lagos. They were raiding farms in Lagos to feed and also generate revenue for their armies.

Request for help could not be met by Oyo because the Oyo horses would not survive the forest conditions. Request was sent to Benin. Benin, like Egba, does not have water navigation skills or naval skills. Benin did not travel over land to Lagos.

So how did Benin get to Lagos through waters?

Who did they fight in Lagos?

Why is Ashipa asking Aromire for land if indeed he was a conqueror?

Why did Ijebu allow Benin passage through its waters?


Can the igodogigodo people please solve these puzzles since they believe Edo own Lagos.

I go shame all of una uncivilized bushmen. Yoruba don't feed on hoax, we live by facts.

Meanwhile, still waiting on story of that hoax fugitive ....

you made lot of sense here babaramota

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA-R7xflcXw


conference on african origin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB3O0edYuGw


endeavor to watch the video

balogun kuku

davidnazee:
Liar ooo.. you are the worst so far.
Edo people were the first to start using guns and canons. All guns and canons that Yoruba had they got from Benin. Benin Kingdom even supplies you people with weapons during the Ekiti parakpo wars.. so as old as you are you still believe that fairy tales about bows and arrows? U be real dummy.

you people were not trader you are not civilized