davidnazee: The British governed us directly becos they know if the tried the Egba deal with us we will arm ourselves and bring war to them if given the opportunity. They knew we are warriors and don’t relent in our fight.. unlike the cowardly Yoruba tribe.
You people are animals you can't be ruled indirectly you need to be ruled directly with brutal force . The north was also ruled indirectly because they have a good system of governance likewise south west too ..Also they were very sensitive about ruling us direct they knew the implication you can't rule an empire directly or caliphate directly there will be uprising ..but a little kingdom you can rule
davidnazee: History 104.. Benin sent a punitive expedition to Akure to punish the city for the killing of the Benin administrator of Akure and Edo citizens.. Result was the crushing of the Akure people, part of the city burnt, ur traditional ruler tried and executed and it princes jailed in Oko prisons in Benin.
History 105.. Your Oluyin of Uyin was killed in his fight against Benin. His dead body paraded along the streets of Uyin and later burnt. Yoruba una weak ooo.
Your chiefs and oba were stripped naked in the street flogged dehumanized by ijaws askari soldiers that fought along the brits and the chiefs were later hung openly like the dogs left to rot hanging without proper burial ..
Moneywomen17: history 105 after the Benin were easily defeated by the owo and every Benin chased from akure back to Benin an army led by ogedengbe conquered into the heart of Benin village and conquer their way through Benin murdering every chief and community leader along the way and parading their dead body around to show who the new ruler of their land his and also taking numerous slave as price. In the capital Benin the king quickly came out to beg the warrior ogedengbe and offered him numerous wealth and female slave to appease him which he took along with one of the king wife. Chai Benin boys cowardice no be here begging instead of fighting smh
Your chiefs and oba was stripped naked in the street flogged dehumanized by ijaws askari soldiers that fought along the brits and the chiefs were later hung openly like the dogs left to rot hanging without proper burial ..
steveosaz: Guy, if you are using a smart phone to type all these crap, Google dictionary is just one click away. Stop shaming yo-ROBBER people now haba!
So at your age, you don't know the meaning of 'marched on'? No Yorubastard tribe could have ever marched on the great Benin, not possible, never recorded in history.
Yoruba has effectively suffered colonization twice at least on official records. The Edos first colonized Yoruba which lasted several centuries while at the same time, maintaining diplomatic and trade relations with the whites(Portuguese). And with Portuguese guns, Bini established its dominion and chokehold on Yoruba people. The evidence of this colonization is clearly seen in the cultures, customs and dressing patterns of the people of Owo who share striking similarities with their Edo lords and masters. Second colonization of Yoruba came from the British. You already know that story.
We were suzerains over you and your territory for ages. Bow to your kings!!!
davidnazee: Marched on Benin lol. Between 1830 and 1897 Benin executed your Deji, killed your Oluyins, mudered ur Baales, hanged many Obas, beheaded your Ewis, imprisoned your crown princes and took thousands of your people into captivity.. and u are here celebrating like a slowpoke.. your weak uprisings was suppressed easily.. una no reach. Continue thanking the British they are your liberators..
were you there na that beheaded part sweet pass for your mouth..and i can tell you are fucking lowlife coward na only mouth edo people get nothing more false pride on nothing Fulani herds man dey your back yard go tackle them
davidnazee: So you believe the white mans excuse of human sacrifice in Benin to invade our kingdom lol.. an excuse they still use till this day whenever they want to invade any nation that doesn’t agree with them. Well it is not news that Yorubas are the most brainwashed Africans on earth.. I sorry for your people.
As for human sacrifices and rituals who does that if not the Yorubas? Everyday u hear news of children, women, people being used for rituals in Yoruba lands.. Hardly you will hear that news any other place in Africa only Yoruba.. You guys are doomed..
British think of you people as barbaric savages that needed to burnt at stake ... the order given by the British was to capture your king and hang him and his chiefs ..But they spare the king and hung the senior chiefs openly as a deterrent for other like you people ...
steveosaz: Obalufon, please stop distorting my comments. In quoting my comment, you crookedly sneaked in the line that "Benin was never and empire, but a little kingdom" thereby creating the impression that I wrote that. If you don't know how to use NL, ask for help.
Meanwhile, Benin was very much an empire. Argue with your ancestors.
Benin was never an empire ....what is the meaning of empire ?...your kingdom didn't reach an empire level or a state level .. Oyo was a great empire oyo ruled over large verse region from Nigeria to upper volta togo ... fulani. hausa, bariba nupe fon Allada abomey , togo...all this region were assimilated into the empire and they were recruited into oyo army some grew in the army to become general ..first generalissimo of Oyo was from portnovo......
steveosaz: There was absolutely nothing smart about the yorubas. Being able to negotiate access to arms and use them to strengthen formidable armies against opponents is where the real smartness lies and the Edos more than sufficiently had that. That the yorubas only got hold of guns after several centuries only showed how much behind time they were - this also explains why Yoruba was a rich market for harvesting slaves by slave merchants. Your people were just too damn docile!
It's utterly ridiculous when you want to use modern day rules to explain happenings of the past. Rules of engagement in wartime is relatively a new invention. If that is what you want to now hang on, then I want to know how you would explain other battles fought across Europe in the middle ages. It was basically a case of the stronger man takes the day and for several centuries, Bini was the stronger man, in fact arguably the strongest man on the battlefield.
Benin was never an empire is a little kingdom...
Meanwhile, Benin empire outlived the Oyo empire for more than 70 years.
Tell us what led to the collapse of the Oyo empire. Because even in it's hay days, they were disgraced when they tried recapturing Ilorin.
Benin was never an Empire never grow to be come and empire.. is a kingdom
steveosaz: There was absolutely nothing smart about the yorubas. Being able to negotiate access to arms and use them to strengthen formidable armies against opponents is where the real smartness lies and the Edos more than sufficiently had that. That the yorubas only got hold of guns after several centuries only showed how much behind time they were - this also explains why Yoruba was a rich market for harvesting slaves by slave merchants. Your people were just too damn docile!
It's utterly ridiculous when you want to use modern day rules to explain happenings of the past. Rules of engagement in wartime is relatively a new invention. If that is what you want to now hang on, then I want to know how you would explain other battles fought across Europe in the middle ages. It was basically a case of the stronger man takes the day and for several centuries, Bini was the stronger man, in fact arguably the strongest man on the battlefield.
Meanwhile, Benin empire outlived the Oyo empire for more than 70 years.
Tell us what led to the collapse of the Oyo empire. Because even in it's hay days, they were disgraced when they tried recapturing Ilorin.
steveosaz: I don't know about that, but Oba of Benin would never bow to an ordinary afonja descendant like Saraki. Not even Buhari.
Can you picture Alaafin of Oyo greeting Saraki in that manner? I don't think so.
you people are myopic as your thought..i sent a picture of saraki paying obeisance to oni risa..the picture you base your argument or claim on was taken in motion oni was only praying for him or exchanging pleasantry not bowing ..our oni is very humble man
steveosaz: I don't know about that, but Oba of Benin would never bow to an ordinary afonja descendant like Saraki. Not even Buhari.
Can you picture Alaafin of Oyo greeting Saraki in that manner? I don't think so.
you people are myopic as your thought..i sent a picture of saraki paying obeisance to oni risa..the picture you base your argument or claim on was taken in motion oni was only praying him or exchanging pleasantry not bowing ..our oni is very humble man
steveosaz: Shebi you say you are a product of Oduduwa's loins? If you can point to Oduduwa's tomb(it doesn't matter even if it was yesterday you people created one since historical manufacturing is your favorite past time) then, you have also found Ekaladerhan's tomb.
steveosaz: Obalufon, Ekaladerhan is your ancestor since you want us to believe that you are a direct descendant of Oduduwa this is because Oduduwa/Izoduwa/Ekaladerhan is all the same person under a different name at different times. So take note.
After all, you Yoruba's do say; omo ale ton fowo osin juwe ile baba e. Stop behaving like a bastard. Its not good for you.
where is Ekaladerhan buried i need a DNA TEST on him ..please ..you people are off shoot of ile-ife.. but you were far away from the source that is why you were in turmoil before you requested for king from ile-ife your source.. you people speak language from the older lexicon of the source ..have you heard of oro ife? language barrier is what is causing the issue ...gberufu of badagry , egun even dahomey claim ife as their ancestral lineage up to togo, why are you people distancing yourself from the source of creation ife ooye olori aiye gboogbo ibi ti ojumo ti mo ..200yrs ago we were seen as one .. talk about benin conquering down south of the niger ,,but your histroy will not becompleted without mentioning ekiti ondo Lagos why
steveosaz: This is why and how you people keep twisting and maligning history. Even with a picture, you still paint a different scenario. This should tell the state of mind of you folks.
A king when seated and wants to acknowledge greetings from his subject would pat that subject on the back, but in this case, your ooni didn't only bow, he received the handshake with both hands while Saraki offered only one. This is even a kings that usually has a staff in one hand.
No matter where you meet the Queen of England, she would never greet you in such a way. The Queen is highly respected in and outside the Buckingham palace. And same for the Oba of Benin. That's because royalty is royalty any time, any day.
respected from where ..who respect your oba tell me .. you are delusional senate president of Nigeria ..
steveosaz: Samuk, exactly what I thought when I saw the post by Y0ruba. The guy has practically murdered himself.
Every damn thing in that post of his showed that the Edos peppered these people for centuries. Yoruba should really be grateful to the British for amalgamating Nigeria, otherwise, Benin for don't sell them into slavery finish.
Self entrapment... Hahaha I love this. The guy totally bombed the entire yo-ROBBER war craft on here. That's what happens when you pick up a sword for a fight without being skillful, your opponent wouldn't even have to kill you, you'll do it yourself.
i'm glad to know ogedengbe conquered you people ..he would cut of the head of oba but it would a taboo to cut the head of oduduwa lineage
steveosaz: Just as yo-ROBBER are reputed for armed robberies and yahoo yahoo abi?
Guy, you are gloriless. Tell yourselves the truth, the rot in Edo nation is nothing compared to that in yo-ROBBER land. To make it worse, you people even degrade yourselves by kowtowing to your largely illiterate Fulani overlords.
Americans don't deny their country, neither do Europeans and same for Israelis. But yo-ROBBER bastards are littered all over the north denying their Yoruba origin, repudiating their Yoruba ancestry and culture and adorning that of a more superior state-the Hausa/Fulani state. Even in your lands, strangers have been ruling you. Lam Adeshina of Oyo was Igbirra, Same with Olusegun Mimiko of Ondo, all Igbirra ruling you people and you aren't even ashamed of yourselves.
Why would anyone want to be Yoruba when even the children of the house are running away and denying it.
you better go find your stray prince ekaldheran before dog eat his testicles. without his balls you go lose your lineage .. how many fulani you see for yoruba land but they are busy killing your people for edo without any resistance na mouth you get
steveosaz: Hahahaha, these people are bastards by nature. This is a symbolism of Yoruba bowing down to Fulani again. Ife bows before Afonja/Alimi... Shameless people.
How can a king of this status stoop that low to receive Saraki's handshake with two hands while bowing down? Tomorrow, yo-ROBBER demons would tell you it never happened because it doesn't agree with their sensibilities.
what is wrong about the picture saraki approached the oba on seat and gave decent greeting oni welcome him with open heart as a son . he stood there receiving the blessing of his father . ..Saraki is the senate president of Nigeria..you people are so fool of yourself .. if saraki visited him palace and his no more senate president of Nigeria he will prostrate to honor his ancestor
davidnazee: This screen shot of the Benin study you posted doesn't say anything to dispute what my argument has been, that Benin was a super power compared to the Yoruba Kingdoms.. From the post you can see it says Benin was the only powerful Kingdom in southern Nigeria ruling from coast of river Niger through Yoruba lands to Lagos and beyond.. If you have more documents to discredit my argument please post it but if this is all you have to show then you are a big fool.. You post document that says Benin ruled Yoruba and you insulting me..
superpower my ass.. battle of imagbon was before Benin invasion our oba and chiefs were not disgraced like your oba and chiefs killed and hung like a dog rather they were placed on royalty and pension
Olu317: Not ready to disgrace your Edo servants . And the Oba Bini who was the third son of Esigie ,called Okpame (Ozolua) became king, he was the one who had military incursion into Owo but not successful Even the incursion into Akure, saga, you were chased away. Even arounnd 1820s/1830s, another attempt were made by your infamous warriors ,when they formed alliance with some Égi chiefs but were crushed by Derin Olongbenla.What exactly did you Edo do to make you great apart from pepper,ivory,sculpture wore? You could not subjugate Urhobos,Eastern Ibos, Lukumi, etc . I don't want to keep exposing Bini king past leaders inconsistenies because he is a Yoruba man.
welldone bro..our great oni of ife derin olongbenla warrior crushed them
davidnazee: Please mention and as usual I will post real and documented articles that discusses a time when Eastern Yoruba princes were mandated to serve as slaves in Oba of Benin palace before they could go back home to become King in their lands.. I get thousands of documents on Yoruba history..
davidnazee: shut up there.. as if you and your yoruba brothers don't know the Deji was executed by Benin for messing up.. I don't need to even discuss what you already know with you.. unless u are a dummy. It should even be shameful to you yorubas that the execution took place towards the end of the 1800s.. that was a time when everyone was getting more civilized and developed.. but yet at that time yoruba was still under Benin Kingdom..
when edo was getting civilized not everybody coconut head .. i'm glad you accepted you were n't civilized at all till 1800s your barbaric behavior still stinks
davidnazee: I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.
Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
School who ..Europe were trying to find another route to India they navigating the coastline of Africa with hope of circum navigate to get to Indian ocean DO you know why ??
their first contact was cape Verde after guinea sierra leone Lagos.
they weren't looking for no fucking jungle kingdom ..The known kingdom in west Africa documented by Arab scholars are mali Ghana Songhai bornu Oyo ..oyo was writing ajami Arabic as early as 13 century those are the known empire in west Africa and they had contact with themselves through trade ..The Arab had contact with them through trade oyo was mentioned by great African scholar Ahmed baba and also Moroccan explorer and historian Ibn Battuta .. Benin is a fucking jungle !!!! brother what the hell are you saying your people were not known trader then.. your are hostile pillaging weaker forest people ..
samuk: Hopefully you will eventually lean something today, the bight of Benin is a body of water that was named after Benin for her greatness just the way Victoria falls and Victoria island was named after queen Victoria of England. You are already contradicting your compatriot Metaphisical on the history of Lagos just like I stated in my earlier post, you all come out of your ethnic enclaves in the name of one Yoruba and start distorting other peoples history, you guys have nothing to do with Lagos but trying to rewrite her history and start contradicting yourself in a show of shame, do even have shame?
Olu317: Mr. what are you even informing on? Have you no knowledge that Bini was landlocked? The Itsekiri was the link way between Bini and Portuguese, simply because of pepper before ivory, sculputure work etc....
these fools even claimed contact with the arabs yet nothing to show for it .
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by Obalufon: 2:06am On Jun 08, 2018
na that beheaded part sweet pass for your mouth..and i can tell you are fucking lowlife coward na only mouth edo people get nothing more false pride on nothing Fulani herds man dey your back yard go tackle them
. And the Oba Bini who was the third son of Esigie ,called Okpame (Ozolua) became king, he was the one who had military incursion into Owo but not successful Even the incursion into Akure, saga, you were chased away. Even arounnd 1820s/1830s, another attempt were made by your infamous warriors ,when they formed alliance with some Égi chiefs but were crushed by Derin Olongbenla.What exactly did you Edo do to make you great apart from pepper,ivory,sculpture wore? You could not subjugate Urhobos,Eastern Ibos, Lukumi, etc .