₦airaland Forum

davidnazee:
Shut up.. nobody is running to the Southwest. Only place people are running to is the Benin colony of Lagos. Used to be Benin’s property but now the igbos are using their wealth to claim it. Nothing for the Yorubas..

davidnazee:
Liar ooo.. you are the worst so far.
Edo people were the first to start using guns and canons. All guns and canons that Yoruba had they got from Benin. Benin Kingdom even supplies you people with weapons during the Ekiti parakpo wars.. so as old as you are you still believe that fairy tales about bows and arrows? U be real dummy.

davidnazee:
Ranting of a pained and frustrated Yoruba man. It’s nobody’s fault your ancestors didn’t leave you people a legacy or history to be confidently proud of. Rather they left u guys a history full of servitude and of being conquered and enslaved. Abi u never notice that only available documents of Yoruba history is full of how your fathers were conquered by the Edos, ruled by the nupes, sold into slavery by fellow Yorubas and islamized and forever ruled by the Fulanis
Not my fault boy..

EdoNation:
Hahaha

davidnazee:
Thank you very much for the picture now I like u a little even though u are still a mugu.
Didn’t you read the BBC narrative under the picture? It says over a thousand years ago Edo people built a Kingdom!!
Edo was first, Edo saw the birth and death of weak Oyo, conquered and ruled Yorubas when yorubas migrated from wherever to West Africa..
History had judged Edo to be greater than Yoruba.

davidnazee:
You argue out of frustration at the facts and evidence around you because they point to Edo as supreme over Yoruba.
In the whole of present day edoland Yoruba only lay false claim to Oba of Benin with no evidence.. but throughout out present day Yoruba lands Edo lay true claims to almost all.. Alafin is Edo, Osemawe in ondo is Edo, Owo ruler is Edo, in Ekiti too, their rulers are Mostly Edo, Oni is not Yoruba, he is descendant of Oduduwa slave an Ijaw Edo.. and the lands too were Edo colonies..
so now who was under who? Who was conquered and ruled?

Yoruba should swallow their pride and accept history as it was rather than lie about it..

davidnazee:
Ekiti, ondo and environs are all Western Edo. Even Ekiti and ondo governments recognize Edo as part of the people’s culture. Till tomorrow seniors citizens in Idanre and other parts of western Edo still speak the Edo language.
And FYI Yoruba juju don’t work on Edo people. You guys tried it during the period we were conquering you it didn’t work.

davidnazee:
See this mugu that said Oba of Benin is Yoruba now desperately defending Emir of Ilorin as Yoruba and not a Fulani.
Emir of Ilorin is full blooded Fulani man that is ruling yorubas. His staffs are Fulanis, his bodyguards are Fulanis, he hangs out and parties with Fulanis. Yorubas are just his conquered subjects.

davidnazee:
Which culture is foreign in Edo or foreign Monarchy in Edo?
Go do your research again.. Why is it claimed that Eastern Yoruba shows traces of Edo culture and not Yoruba culture?
Babaramota I have said it before that you are deluded.
Your Oni that you worship is a descendant of Oduduwa’s slave and not Oduduwa lineage. So you see why I say slavery and servitude is synonymous with Yoruba.

davidnazee:
Please there is no Emir in Auchi..
just say it in your own words that the Emir in Ilorin is Fulani. Say it now!!

davidnazee:
Please there is no Emir in Auchi..
just say it in your own words that the Emir in Ilorin is Fulani. Say it now!!

davidnazee:
So is the emir Yoruba or Hausa/Fulani.. or you Dey shame to admit the truth that Yorubas are Fulanis subjects?

davidnazee:
So the emir in Ilorin is a Yoruba man?

gregyboy:
Have u read the benin akure chiefs....just goggle you ser why you see benins having Yoruba names not only yoruba names Igbo names as wells as urohobo making sound its only yoruba binis bear thier names make you look ignorant ...

Benin bear names like ojo idowu etc this are Benin's who ruled yoruba state and later came back to benin after benin fell to british to help oba akenzuwa restore bck benin

Names like oghene ese, efe,most urhobo bear the name also benin do also

Names like okoro,okojie which both deltans and igbos bear are also names in edo....

The problem with nigerians is we tend to leave the pre indepence history and focus on the post indepence history.... History were also made after 1897 after the fall of benin the oba was given two choice to remain in seat either he marries a white lady or he gives up his vassal territories and stay in Nigeria which he made a choice to give up his territories than to have a white lady in benin stool ...benin chiefs all over its territories all came back to benin to help benin build it state back after the destruction they brought new names like the yoruba names you see edo bear some also stayed behind...i leave you to judge

gregyboy:
Why accloade oyo as an empire its not even fit for a kindom it had no flag no symbol of authority
No planned street no form of document no walls no moat no internal defence ..nothing to befit a kingdom not to say an empire...benin fought in thier war and proclaim victory over it and culptured their city in return the ekiti ibadan war .
Is a place called an empire if the people who made the empire where its family members even upto benin republic ...pls always tell them they had no empire thier history started at 12century
Till it ended it never had a kingdom nor empire if it did the Europeans would have a way notice just the way the notice benins ...
If you check nigeria map you would see yorubas were more closer to the coast than edo or benins ...oyo ,ogun,lagos,Delta etc where all closer to the coast land he could be the europeans saw this people as very primitive and nothing to associate with them it could also be that they visted yorubas towns closed to the coast but found benin influenced on them ....

And yorubas come here to say because edo lies close to the coast thats why the europeans visites them. they forget they are closer to the coast lands than Edo's.. But edo made use of the coast lands before the knew anything about coast land....edo is birth of civilisation in west africa....

davidnazee:
So Yorubas are the moors that conquered Spain and also built the pyramids??
You even gave your commander a Fulani name to show that you are forever subjects of the Fulanis.
You moorish is a disgrace to moneywoman, Olu, YOruba and other Yorubas on this forum.

EdoNation:
[[s]quote author=laudate post=67971505]
Unfortunately for you, I am not even from the Southwest, or even Yoruba. I speak based on experience and encounters I have had, in various parts of Edo state. You need to step out of your backward place, and take a tour round all the 18 local govt areas in Edo state, from Egor to Etsako to Owan local govt areas, and you will discover that it is true. Not only Akoko-Edo people bear Yoruba names. People from other parts of the state also have one or two Yoruba names, as their middle name, if not their first name. The strange thing is some of such people, may not even speak a word of Yoruba. Take a trip to different communities, and you will be shocked. Just free your mind.

You are the disgusting one, who is calling another person insulting names, simply because you cannot handle the truth. Stop throwing tantrums, and grow up![/s]

Everyone on this website knows your are a craw craw faced Yoruba impostor , fvvck off nobody needs your input on this topic , it stinks of foolish lies!!

laudate:
Unfortunately for you, I am not even from the Southwest, or even Yoruba. I speak based on experience and encounters I have had, in various parts of Edo state. You need to step out of your backward place, and take a tour round all the 18 local govt areas in Edo state, from Egor to Etsako to Owan local govt areas, and you will discover that it is true. Not only Akoko-Edo people bear Yoruba names. People from other parts of the state also have one or two Yoruba names, as their middle name, if not their first name. The strange thing is some of such people, may not even speak a word of Yoruba. Take a trip to different communities, and you will be shocked. Just free your mind.

You are the disgusting one, who is calling another person insulting names, simply because you cannot handle the truth. Stop throwing tantrums, and grow up!

davidnazee:
Now I believe you are just a foolish liar.. Why didn't you include how Ogedengbe fled from Edo lands with only just a warning from Benin Forces and at the sound of approaching Benin soldiers? It is all in your source you quoted.
When Benin heard Ogedengbe had penetrated into Edo land, an army was dispatched to destroy Ogedengbe, before the Benin Army attacked a message was sent to Ogedengbe to vacate Edo land and he will be spared and not killed.
Even Ogedengbe's drummers and soldiers advised him to leave or face destruction. That was how your Ogedengbe fled like a coward from Edo land. When has Benin ever fled from battle with just words or warning??

Here is what Ogedengbe's drummers sang to him that made him flee from Edo lands;

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

All in Ogedengbe's camp heard the drums and were surprised. Anger filled Ogedengbe as he heard the drums say over and over:

"When has Benin ever been defeated?

Never has Benin been walked on by its enemies."

Doubt came to Ogedengbe. He thought: "It is true. Benin has never fallen in war." His fury for battle softened. His warriors with their weapons in their hands, they too were thinking: "Have Ogedengbe's drums ever spoken a falsehood? What they say now is so. Benin has never been beaten to the ground. Although it has many enemies Benin has only survived and grown greater."

Ogedengbe's eagerness to attack Benin diminished, until at last he ordered his fighting men to withdraw to the outskirts of the city. There he had his drummers executed for making their drums say at the very moment of attack, "When has Benin ever been defeated?" After that Ogedengbe and his army returned to Ilesha.

Y0ruba:
Is that attack meant for me or for Prof. Akitoyevor or the numerous sources he used?

Provide a source for your post, thank you.

EdoNation:

davidnazee:
Now lets discuss your #3 Akure. Benin occupied and administered Akure. You can only punish who you occupy when they go against your rule.
Read below about Akure.

"The Oba's Palace in the centre of the town was built in 1150 AD.[5] During its long history, the city-state of Akure was at times independent, at many times subject to Benin Kingdom. There is a sizable population of Edo origin in Akure. When the Benin monarchy was restored in 1914 the Edo community in Akure made strenuous efforts to reestablish ties with the Oba. They were stopped by the British. A tribute they had sent to Benin was actually returned!
Akure was the main base for Benin's trade in the area, and at times seems to have been considered within the western frontier of Benin. Historians refers to suppression of resistance by "rebellious Akure" during the reign of Oba Ewuare of Benin (1440–1473), although the king was allowed to remain as nominal ruler. Another rebellion is recorded a century later during the reign of Oba Ehengbuda of Benin.[6]
Akure had regained independence by the early 19th century, but around 1818 it was recaptured by Benin forces and the Deji was executed.

Oba Osemwende ordered the Akure punitive expedition of [1818AD] to revenged the murdered of Osague the Benin empire goodwill ambassador to Akure who was murdered with the order of Arakale the Udezi of Akure. when the news of his killing reach Benin city Battalions of royal troops under the general command of Ezomo Erebo assisted by ologboshere and Imaran were sent.
Akure was captured, but Arakale manage to escape to Ado for help, he was expelled by Ewi of Ado for fear of Benin royal troop invasion. Arakale fled from Ado to Uju from Uju to Uhen there he was finally handed over by Arinjale of Uhen to Ezomo.
Arakale was later trialed and executed. Osemwende also conquered Ekiti kingdom."

Now we shall discuss your #4, which is Benin's colony of Lagos which the whole world knows belongs to Benin.

davidnazee:
Do you know the origin of Oduduwa and his chain story? Let me tell u;

When Ekhaladeran was released into exile he still had the chains he was bound with when he was initially inprisoned. He had the chains on him when he wandered into Ife.
It was this chains the people of Ife saw on him a stranger who had knowledge of herbs and mystic powers so they assumed he came down from the sky with the chains!!
So my friends you now see that ;
Ekhaladeran + chains + mystic knowledge = Oduduwa from the sky!

Moorish:
Bro, you said something that I agree with 100%

God sees my heart

You said at its peak, the Benin kingdom would have been wrecked by ekiti

I honestly agree with that assertion. I just feel it

But it seems ekiti respected those Benin guys because our brother was on their throne

davidnazee:
Maybe if I explain things point by point Yorubas will understand..

1. Great Benin kingdom conquered and ruled Eastern Yoruba
2. Yoruba towns and villages were sacked and burnt by Benin armies.
3. Yorubas were taken hostages by Benin and resettled in different places (like Babylon did Israelites)
4. Yoruba Obas were paying tributes to the Oba of Benin.
5. Yoruba princes in lands under Benin control were required to serve as slaves in our palace before they could go back home to be king
6. About 40% of Eastern Yoruba are Edo people making eastern Yoruba Edo lands.
7. When Benin armies are coming whole towns and villages are evacuated and the people flee into bushes and mountains to hide.
8. Benin kingdom saw the birth and brutal death of Oyo.

Moorish:
You remain my subject, tiny edo man

prolog2:
Sometimes I just feel pity for the yoruba who need to constantly lie to themselves about their history.
One third of you guys descend from slaves, one third are Edo, one third are affiliated to dahomey.