₦airaland Forum

gregyboy:
Ha lie from pit of hell towards d 18c when all europeans rushed to Africa thars when they discovered oyo village not the kingom because kingdom don fall by then

gregyboy:
Now i wanna ask you how many hours will it take from lagos to contonou ...modern day Nigeria has influenced them not pre colonial times...contonou to lagos is like warri to benin modern transportation influenced it ..if not there was never an influenced on the oyo village on dahomey in pre colonial times..except the oyo peole they took captive from Oyo as slave and those who ran from been sold as slave so with those who ran from the kiriji war...apart from this yoruba had no historical ties on the dahomey people....yoruba is know to be cunny and a weakling right from time thats y all your kings surrendered at a little kobo and threat to the british conquest...i spit on the race of weakling

davidnazee:
Very funny. The only renowned cowards in Nigeria are yorubas. Don’t try to deny ur traits...

gregyboy:
As influential as your kingdom his it was not even seen by the europeans ..it was shoen that europeans visited Ghana nd dahomey if truely you conquer this people or even influence them i bet the Europeans would have located oyo but it wasnt so y

prolog2:
Your statement confirms you don't understand what you are talking about. This also confirms your lack of honnesty. A debate is not a battle , it is a work on both sides to grasp the truth. The aim is not to dupe the other side. You are supposed to accept proof when you see one. You are supposed to bow to logics. All you have proved here is that you are a troll.

davidnazee:
If Midwest was fully armed the biafran army would not be able to enter the region.
It was the Nigerian army led by the Fulani general buhari and ogbemudia that liberated the region.
Yoruba no get levels.

Olu317:
What primitive Art?

prolog2:
And you were there to witness it all (time travel much ?)
FYI: you were also there to witness the emptyness of Lagos before awori arrival ?
Also, you were there to witness the existance of oduduwa ?


Yoruba low self esteem as usual, rewriting o history is yoruba national sports.
It is very weird that the same yoruba who says a lot of things without proof also goes on to say that Edo need to prove their claims.
Can any of you yoruba-centric foools prove that Omo n'Oba n'Edo originates from ife ?
An other irony is that the fellow accusing Edo people of having a "story pregnant with fables" is the same who brings up a mythical figure "Oranmiyan" into a serious conversation.


Let me repete this to you yoruba lots. You are highly misguided and your efforts to deny your history is pushing you into madness !
Nobody originates from ife. Ife is just one small village/kingdom which had a shrine and that is all. Don't take my word for it, look at the precolonial maps. Also stop talking about "Edo-story". The documents I keep bringing are historical documents (made in the same period as the events they describe). We Edo are being objective and proving each of our points. Yet you yoruba madmen are still tcalling this Edo-opinion while you keep telling stories with no proof and confusing fairytales with actual history.

Reality check:


Benin Kingdom:

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2

An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2

An other map of Benin from the 17th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0

This one date to the 19th century:
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8469390z/f1.item.r=Benin.zoom




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8flCwvoAU

Olu317:
Were you there to witness how Bini fought Aworis? How come Oba of Lagos Island bore bears Yoruba names all through? You are a bloody clown. Do you even know the meaning Ologun Kutèrè? Do you even know Olu has no etymology in Bini ? You are chronic liar.

EdoNation:
Yoruba's have no pride or sense of self worth , such a pity..... Tufia!!

davidnazee:
Moneywoman, here is more account of Great Benin exploits in Yorubalands. Copied from the scholarly work and research of a honest Yoruba guy.

"Eastern Yorubaland felt the impact of its powerful eastern neighbor, Benin. When Benin invaded Ekiti between 1818-1823, the aim was to quell provincial revolt and regain control over the region’s economy. Indeed by reasserting control over the trade routes, which linked it with Yorubaland, Benin strengthened the position of its long distance traders, the Ekhengbo (from Ekhen Egbo) (ekhen, traders; egbo, forest). Akure and Benin traditions agree that the invasion of Akure was precipitated by
a commercial dispute following an attack on a Benin tobacco trader, Ogonto, who was accused of violating an Akure law. Even though the information is scanty, it is possible to situate the Benin invasion at this time and the economic dispute at its root, within the context of the rise in the supply of slaves by the wars in Yorubaland and Hausaland. Benin traders would have desired to tap into the northern Yoruba slave fields as well as send foreign goods into the interior. They would have also wanted alternative markets, even if temporary, to counterbalance the disruptive effect of the Nupe political crisis on Benin’s trade with the Niger. Consequently, Benin soldiers, under Ologbosere Imaran and Ezemo Erebo, carried out punitive expeditions, which left so much destruction that the fear of Benin lingered on till the early years of colonial occupation. Several Ekiti, Akoko and Owo towns were sacked and in them were created Benin colonies under the Balekale (consuls).
With the victory, Benin reasserted its control over trade in Ekiti, Owo and Akoko, and Benin enclaves in Owo, Akure, Ikere and Ado-Ekiti became the nexus of trade between Benin and Yorubaland. Both Akure and Idanre traditions agree that owing to Benin commercial activities, a nineteenth century ruler, Deji Gbogi and an influential woman, Olokoju both of Akure founded Alade village/market (near Idanre) as a meeting point for Ekiti, Idanre, Ondo, Owo, Ijebu, Benin and Ijesa traders. Imported items such as guns, salt and metal implements from Benin were sold as far as Ilesa, Ekiti and Ilorin. This earned the Ekhengbo the distinction of being called the “first long-distance traders in Ekiti.” Although the Akure king’s list seems to put Igbogi in an earlier century, the reference to the importation of guns would put his reign in the mid-nineteenth century. Most significant was that commercial metal products point to the position of Akure as a regional market. As we shall show in chapter four, Benin traders undermined direct commercial contacts between Ekiti and Ondo for a greater part of the century.

Immigrants into Ekiti also included traders, soldiers, administrators and their dependants from Benin. These colonists set up farm in the forest straddling the Akure-Idanre border and occupied what is now called the Ọgbọn Ado (Edo quarter) of Ado-Ekiti. Similarly slaves captured by the Benin from some Ado villages and some refugees were settled at Ikere where they established Ogotun, Afao, Are, Iluomoba and Agbado quarters, all named after their previous towns."

Truth is Benin owned and still has claims to Eastern Yoruba. It is Benin territory.


Benin greatness is motivated by link with Yoruba nothing more ..your rule over some part of ondo and ekiti is not by war but monarchical superiority

hurrycayne:
I taya for oba o. E no dey sidan one place again. Laho, make una help me talk to am o

you people are half baked you've never undergone proper process of transformation to a better human being full of chaos that's why you were named land of anger by oromiyan. i can understand why you will be insulting the stool of of oduduwa or ekaladeihan , izoduwa what ever you called it in Benin ..i dare not insult insult oba benin ...Don't drag the obas into this ..

prolog2:
It seems you don't understand the meaning of the word "proof".
It doesn't matter where it is coming from.
It is obvious that the myth of oyo ever being an empire was created to steal the glory of Benin empire and give it to a yoruba entity.
Yoruba low self esteem is making them try to actually engage in history theft.
ife wants to steal Benin monarchy and artwork, while oyo wants to steal Benin military might and empire status.
You think you can just own Benin history and share it among your lazy yoruba lots ? think again !

Moneywomen17:
if I show u proof written by Dahomey themselves is that enough proof but first u have to show me proof about Dahomey being under ur Benin village.

gregyboy:
Lies show me a dahomey source that state they were under the oy empire ....all written account are from the yorubas non is from dahomey ....no trace of oyo influence in benin republic apart from oyo people who were captured by dahomey warrior as slave in the present benin republic....
But benin didn't not conqurer oyo but it influence rose to the entire kingdom they adopt the name benin as thier country name not oyo

If i were to go buy this and judge who would someone believed had influence on dahomey..
Yoruba should stop lying on people head...

Moorish:
The Ijebus (Imagbon war) and the western Igbos of delta (Ekumeku war) fought most valiantly against the British.
that is not war of savages ..without guns ..do you how those people were running around butt naked in the forest ..they can't be ruled indirectly because they were savages

gregyboy:
Lies.....a site written by the same yorubas how do verify if its the truth....it was written by the yorubas

I gave you a link wriiten from an unkown source about the three kingdom oyo,Benin, dahomey
Which clearly state that the Dahomey female warrior invaded the oyo empire for slaves around 17c to 18c

Now if be it dahomey was under oyo empire that wouldnt have happened
Thesame dahomey h claim was under your pop has a little of edo pop ..came as well in d 1990 to revered the old empire in honour to adopt its name for it country

Moneywomen17:
u said nupe traded bead with u before the Portuguese but somehow they did not trade bead with Yoruba that’s what u said that Yoruba did not wear bead till 18c u are the one trying to be cunny