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Alariiwo:
Jesus Christ didn't live this kinda life... so what do these guys preach exactly.

Christ said His kingdom is not of this world, why He was always lowkey but seems these pastors are after wealth and riches of the world.
Most of them collected money from GEJ tho. so I'm not surprised. Like one said he will open gates of hell if we vote in PMB (mere mortal o). Till today nothing has happened.
God pass una

Let me tell you the truth, the preachers of today are so attached to the world even more than the world itself, and any attempt to correct them, the result is insults,they won't respond from the bible they are carrying. This is worrisome.

Have you ever heard one of these prosperity ministers give a powerful sermon on I John 2:15:
"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life is not of the Father, but is of the world."

What is this world turning to sef?

Hunting is a game. RIP

BEENUEL:
[b]
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BANKY AND SUSU.
GOD BLESS YOUR UNION

Is today also their birthday?
meanwhile,

ugolinze123:
99% of nigerian youths are social media addicted...that is why its leaders continue the recycling of old cargoes to rule em cus we aint got future leaders....make una dey there dey wait for ebuka suit..mumu youths

I tell You!

If this one should treat your file for promotion, na to wait till Jesus come.

Luiz1:
Are they from Brazil?

No.

Luiz1:
Are they from Brazil?

No.

This one no be shoe? Nounshensh!

Happy Bafday ooo!

Abeg where is the barbeque guy I really miss him.

Glo should just not move near so that they will not turn it to GloGo slow for us.

ediko5:
Lol.

I don't think Nigeria has up to 50 premium AdSense publishers [/q

[quote author=VocalWalls post=62693088]False information.

Even normal publishers can use more than 3 ad units per page.

The whole premium brouhaha is just a facade.

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ediko5:
Lol.

I don't think Nigeria has up to 50 premium AdSense publishers

I don't think Nigeria have 1 premium user.20million views per month? that's no joke.

I wanted to talk about the no of advert too. moreover the more your advert the more the distraction for your users.

Black Friday where long overdue goods are sold for less.LOL

Osashalom:
The Tithe: No controversy - Oluwamuyiwa Okuseinde

Since the hoopla about tithing surfaced, many who know my teachings on the subject in the last one decade or so have requested my opinion on the matter. My usual response had been to direct them to the Bible and to the two mini books I have written on the subject. I feel there is no point engaging in any debate with anyone. God has warned us to beware of such arguments from scoffers who would abound in the last days. But in the last one week, a dear friend and brother has put so much pressure on me, literally begging me to say something. It is therefore in response to my friend (just as Dr Luke wrote for Theophilus, Luke 1:3-4) that I'm making the following submissions, hoping also that it would be of help to every genuine seeker out there.

I will reduce my contribution to only seven of the many issues that there are on the matter.

First, the idea that the tithe is not applicable in the New Testament is false. In His comments on the attitude of the Pharisees, Jesus upbraided them for paying tithe of little things while neglecting weightier matters of the law like justice and mercy. Then Jesus made a statement that I thought is clear even for the blind to see: "these [weightier matters] ought you to have done, and not to leave the other [tithe] undone" (Matthew 23:23). How could Jesus - the New Testament personified say that a particular thing should not be left undone and a true believer in Christ will presume to say that thing is a scam? Yet the righteousness of the Christian is supposed to surpass that of the Pharisee.

Today, it is convenient for us to claim promises of the Old Testament when they suit us but when it requires that we part with our substance, we quickly remember that we are in the New Testament. That is hypocrisy.

For those who may want to know, the tithe is neither Old nor New Testament. The tithe is 'trans-testament'. It transcends both testaments and is applicable to both testaments. The tithe was definitely before the law, being practiced 430 years before the law and what did not come with the law cannot go with the law. Abraham was the first to pay it, and he gave a tithe of all the booty he brought from the war (Genesis 14:20). The "all" must have included garments, gold, silver, animals, weapons etc. This clearly faults the argument that tithe in Bible times was only from agriculture. Jacob promised God a tithe of all that God would give him and we know that Jacob was not only rich in livestock, he had monetary asset with which he bought food for his huge household during the time of famine (e.g., see Genesis 43:12).

I have heard many make that mischievous statement, that they won't pay tithe because Jesus didn't pay tithe. Did Jesus give offering? Did He build a house or own one? Didn't He say that the son of man had nowhere to lay his head? Well, just as you argue that if a man pays tithe, he should go ahead and fulfill all the other Old Testament laws, so also, since you won't pay tithe because Jesus didn't pay, you should equally refrain from giving offerings, owning a house, riding a car or flying in a plane because Jesus did none of these things. If you are not being mischievous, apply the rule to yourself and ensure that you refrain from everything Jesus didn't do, including getting married and having children.

Secondly, this idea of the tithe not being for Gentile believers is a misreading of the New Testament. In Christ Jesus, there is neither Gentile nor Jew. Christ came to destroy that dichotomy, breaking down the middle wall of partition (Ephesians 2:11-22). We have all been baptized into one body, whether Jews or Gentiles (1 Corinthians 12:13). There is not a separate rule for Jewish Christians and another for Gentile believers. In response to such uniformed opinions, Paul asked, "Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also" (Romans 3:29).

Thirdly, the assumption that the tithe is the financial bottom line of God’s servants is false. Interestingly, none of those making this false claim have come out with empirical data to support their opinion. It will surprise you to know that in spite of the hue and cry about tithe, not more than a tenth of the church actually tithe faithfully. I know this because in the last ten years, I have been privileged to go from church to church, city to city, within and outside my country Nigeria to teach the saints on the subject of tithe.

Everywhere I go, without a single exception, approximately 90% of the congregants would respond to altar calls as tithe defaulters. This is something I have empirically verified and not a mere opinion. I find it disturbing to my rational mind that supposedly cerebral persons, even from the ivory towers, would make sweeping generalisations in matters they have not verified.

Even in the Old Testament, the Levites had other sources of income apart from the offerings of the children of Israel. While they had no inheritance as a tribe, the Levites had lands given to them in all the tribes of Israel. When the people failed to bring the tithes, the Levites resorted to working on their land. This happened during the time of Nehemiah (see Nehemiah 13:10-14).

The truth of the matter is that most servants of God are simply blessed of God, tithe or no tithe. If you are doing what God has called you to do, He will bless you. It is only a matter of time. For example, I am personally very blessed. This is the 23rd year I left my job as a university teacher to serve God full time. For more than two decades, I have not collected a dime as salary. I have a house that God built for me without a dime of any man's tithe in it. All the vehicles I have used (except two) were given to me by people. Hardly would tithes from people represent up to 10% of my sustenance (with my family) for more than two decades. When you don't know my story and you conclude that I must be living on the tithes of some people, it is both unfair and uncharitable. Sometimes to want to find out how a true man of God is sustained is like wanting to know what is talking inside the radio! It will lead to many errors.

Fourthly, to reduce the tithe to what a man eats and washes down with a glass of beer is to make mockery of sacred things. Truly, there is a biblical practice of eating a particular tithe in the house of God. But it is also clear from the Bible that the Levites were to receive the tithe as part of their sustenance. If the tithe is for you to eat, which one goes to the Levite? Doesn't it suggest already that the Bible is not talking about a singular item? In any case if the tithe is for you to eat, why should God be angry as He obviously was in Malachi if you don't want to eat? And like I always say, if the tithe is yours, it would make no sense whatsoever for God to say tithe defaulters are robbing Him. It is impossible to steal what belongs to you. If the tithe is simply something for you to eat, why would God tell defaulters to add a fifth (Leviticus 27:31)? Selecting a portion of the Scriptures to make general assertions is as wrong as it is foolish and ungodly.

A careful reading of the Scriptures shows that three different tithes were paid in Bible times, viz the Levite tithe, the festival tithe and the Poor tithe which is also called the third tithe. The tithe eaten by the giver in the house of God is the festival tithe which is done yearly. The Levite tithe (which is what the church teaches) remains the minimum irreducible obligation of God's children to His house.

Sixth, it has been observed that the major cause of the tithe discussion is the opulent lifestyle and stupendous wealth of some men of God which many assume (wrongly so) is being financed by the tithes of their members. While I won't stop you from having issues with extravagant lifestyle of some pastor, it is wrong to teach revolt against the word of God because of the actions of men. That a particular town is filled with fake or incompetent doctors won't remove the fact of the authenticity and necessity of medical practice. God's word remains true irrespective of how men behave.

Sev

Please you need to read this
https://www.nairaland.com/4184887/answers-tihte-questions#62510220

bezimo:
Christian for more than 40years and even written a few books yet arguing 10% tithe, obviously you must be a super fake christian..

When you check the link you will see other super fake Christians like me who are denomination founders.

bezimo:
I like how you cleverly excluded Malachi(concluding chapter of the old testament) were God said his people should return to tithing and stop robbing him and also Hebrews were it was shown how not only the levites who can be intepreted as our modern day pastors are to receive the tithe but Jesus himself receives the tithe in heaven each time it is brought.

Like one of my revered mentors would say if you are looking for scriptures to support your error, you will find one..at the end of the day its a matter of spiritual insight, convictions and choice to do what is commanded..so if you like continue not tithing. When devourers finish with you, you will know how far.

My dear brother, I've been in the Christian race for more than 40 years and I've written a few books. you can't be telling me any nonsense about devourers.

I give generously and I will continue to give more than your tithe because my God deserves more than mere 10%.He has really blessed me you are the one that should go and carry your bible and study it properly. What you don't know is that the real devourers are your pastors. check out what I wrote about tithe, you will surely learn from it , if you want to.
https://www.nairaland.com/4184887/answers-tihte-questions#62510220

bezimo:
Tithing is biblical and commanded by God as shown by Gods servant Bishop Oyedepo..He was preaching at Dunamis not Winners..while encouraging the brethren to continue the kingdom principles of tithing..so you that have never tithed, what is your problem..Is God forcing you, is Bishop forcing you..Abeg make I hear word.

In his words he said "if you are not a tither you end your journey as a beggar"..I believe him as my prophet and father, moreso..i believe God who commanded it. So your anger and frustration for those who tithe wont make any difference..

For those pious and religious hypocritical christians, you are free to go to heaven like lazarus did after suffering poverty on earth, but I have chosen to enter heaven like Abraham after enjoying kingdom wealth on earth. Make your choice.

If tithing is commanded by God, then the present church is not obeying it because, you have changed it.

Here’s a list of changes that the Church has unlawfully created for tithing today. None of these changes that we have made are found anywhere in scripture!!
You’ve changed When you give the tithe (Deuteronomy 26:12- The tithe was only given at certain times of the year)

Who you give it to (Nehemiah 10:38- the tithe could only go towards the Levites the poor, or festivals; not towards buildings or pastors)

Where you store it (Nehemiah 10:38 – The tithe could only go into storehouses/silos, not churches). Also, the Israelites only gave a tithe while they were in the promised land. Outside of their land whether in captivity or in the wilderness, they did not tithe.

What you give as a tithe (Deuteronomy 14:22- The tithe only consisted of food and animals)

How it was used :for parties and festivals. (Deuteronomy 14:23)
How the tithe is used (The tithe was never used for building construction or maintenance.)
Those not eligible to tithe are the Gentiles, the widows, the fatherless and the poor. Fishermen, cobblers, potters, soldiers, carpenters, tax collectors, laborers who earn wages and all other professions outside farmers and herders. Because tithe was never money.

Infocitadel:
please I plead with you, say what you know.

I have been a winner for years and still one, NEVER has any fundraising been raised, Infact we don't even lay emphasis on money. winners is one of the churches where no one puts pressure on your finances. offerings are taken just once, no financial obligations from anywhere

Offerings are raised for Covenant University project during shiloh programs, unless you are anew member.

Brazilian theologian Inácio Strieder accuses churches of resorting to tithing to "solve their institutional problems" and labels such practices "illegitimate, abusive, and a theological aberration." The result, he observes, is that "unemployed people, widows, slum dwellers, and those who are incapable of critical thinking conclude that God has abandoned them and that they are obliged to give so much to 'the preacher' that their own families go hungry."
“He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again”. Proverbs 19:17
Hear what Jesus says about caring for the needy;
“And the king shall answer and say unto them, verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” v40. Matthew 25:35-46

In as much as I respect this pastor, I really don't agree with what he said take a look at the following pastors, evangelists and theologians who had great ministries and never begged. They all disagree with tithe.

Arnold Fruchtenbaum Ph.D.
B. B. Warfield (1851 – 1921)
Bob Utley Ph. D.
Bruce Metzger (1914 – 2007)
C. S. Lewis (1898 – 1963)
C.I. Scofield (1843 – 1921)
Charles Buck (1771–1815)
Charles C. Ryrie (1925)
Charles Spurgeon (1834 – 1892)
David Croteau, Ph.D.
Erasmus (1466 – 1536)
F.F. Bruce (1910 – 1990)
Francis Chan (1967)
Francis Turretin (1623 – 1687)
Frank Stagg (1911-2001)
Frank Viola
Franz Pieper 1852 – 1931
G. Campbell Morgan
George Barna (1955)
George Fox (1624 – 1691)
Irenaeus (130 – 202)
J. Vernon McGee, Th.D., LL.D (1904 – 1988)
James Montgomery Boice (1938 – 2000)
John Bunyan (1628 – 1688)
John Cotton (1585 – 1652)
John Huss (1369 – 1415)
John MacArthur (1939)
John Milton (1608 – 1674)
John Nelson Darby (1800 – 1882)
John Owen (1616 – 1683)
John Piper (1946)
John Robinson (1576 – 1625)
John Smyth (1570 – 1612)
John Wesley (1703 – 1791)
John Wycliffe (1330 – 1384)
Justin Martyr (100 – 165)
Les Feldick
Lewis Sperry Chafer
Mark Driscoll
Martin Luther (1483 – 1546)
Matthew Henry (1662 – 1714)
Origen (184 – 253)
Richard C. H. Lenski (1864 – 1936)
Roger Williams
Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D
Tertullian (160 – 220)
Thomas R. Schreiner
W.E. Vine (1873 to 1949)
Walter Elwell, Ph.D. (1937)
William MacDonald (1917 – 2007)
Many of them are founders of denominations that are still vibrant today.

You will just wake up one morning to discover that your house has moved to the next town.

We were all paid with Intercontinental Bank cheques.
OP please correct this. Intercontinental bank had ceased to exist long ago.

styless:
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Nairaland is a forum and not a blog sister.

I once conducted interview for Bsc holders and I wondered how some of them got their certificates.

There is a governor in that state, I don't think mending or construction of roads is the responsibility of any individual. The state collects allocation every month from fg. Don't they have a Rep in the state house of assembly?
I don't even think Chris have a house there.

Ishilove:
Creative!!

Source?

Here is the source: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/16-surprisingly-funny-palindromes/

Never odd or even

Are we not pure? “No, sir!” Panama’s moody Noriega brags. “It is garbage!” Irony dooms a man—a prisoner up to new era.

oluwaseyi000:
for me as a web programmer and software developer, chrome is not just the best, it is the only browser.

Gbam! you have said it all.

UC and opera mini for downloading. Chrome for perfect rendering. The good thing about chrome is that I can continue from where I left off on my PC to my mobile. Chrome eats up data anyway but I like it.

Ignorant people everywhere, they will just pick a verse in the bible and turn it upside down. Was there even trouser in bible days?

Who is your own Mugabe? Zimbabwean children ask people from other countries.