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lebete3000:
And you think I inferred giving tithes grants you access to heaven??

No bro, accepting Christ as Saviour is the way to heaven, but to enjoy God's blessings on earth you must apply the principles of tithing.

There are numerous principles in the Bible to achieve what one needs in life, none of them takes the place of the other, for example giving to the poor doesn't guarantee success when you haven't worked anything, he blesses the works of our hands not just the giving. Same also applies to Tithing.

Ppl just misconstrue the whole issue due to lack of understanding. Tithing is one of the pathway to abundant blessings, it has nothing to do with heaven. But if you choose not to apply it, God can also choose not to honour the agreement therein.

It's as simple as that.

Yes, like Bill Gates, Dangote and co.

sweetcocoa:
These people can lie sha!

Its really crazy how someone can convince themself they hear from a non existent being.

Stop saying rubbish and keep shut, you have no place here, this thread is for Christians.

Desyner:
I can hardly make sense of what you posting. I suspect the anti-seed movement is recession inspired.

Of course you are not supposed to understand. The word of God does not really make sense to carnal Christians.
Because you only understand what you hear people say and not what the word of God says.
I really don't understand what you mean by ANTI SEED. Tithe is not a seed.
Whatever you mean by recession I do not know. All I know is that I give more than mere 10% of my income to the expansion of the word of God. And I do not need to say that I have people that are not even related to me that I pay their school fees yearly. As am writing to you I'm paying somebody's house rent tomorrow.
Please don't always be in a hurry to pass judgement.
Study your bible and don't read it as a novel, it is a powerful book God bless You and happy Sunday.

Desyner:
if you interprete the above verse to mean tithe is less important what do you make of this part :

"and not leave the other undone" ?
Tithe is should not be left undone. You don't place something that's mandatory in a scale of preference sir.

In the same passage, Jesus clarified that they were still subject to the seat of Moses, and were still under the law (Matthew 23:2, Galatians 4:4)
In the same passage, Jesus also commands to observe and do what the Pharisees say, so why is only one of Jesus’ commands relevant? (Matthew 23:3)
What is commanded under the newer, authoritative law? (1 Corinthians 9:14)
If Jesus’ command here was confirming tithing for the Church, then he was also confirming that food was still the only acceptable gift of the tithe. So why do you give money?
If 10% tithing is still commanded because of what Jesus said here, then you must obey the strict guidelines that go with it, because Jesus not only endorsed their tithing but also the Pharisees’ meticulousness as well.
Jesus also kept the Passover as well. So why not keep it too? (Matthew 26:17)

ponziponzi:
Stop defending stupid things, I live in Canada. Even if you work minimum wage, you can pay your bills. You can only be homeless if you do drugs or make some terrible fininacial decisions. About 45% of Nigerians are living in extreme poverty, Nigerians don’t even understand what it means to have constant power in their homes for a week. If you are in the west as you claim and attend a white church, you should know that many of the teachings in the African churches are false and are just for enriching the pastors. They brainwash human beings and make them do foolish things that can be equated with slavery. I volunteer in a charity organisation run by a church that feeds the homeless and provides accommodation for them, for free, daily. Stop defending what is improverishing your people, it’s your duty to humanity!

Thank you very much. If you have really travelled to other countries you will know that the poverty in Nigeria is to the extreme.

Hiccups:


No church is under attack, some pastors have been criticized though. Why do OP see Freeze as an unbeliever? Do all of Christ Embassy Teachings agree with RCCG? Does this in any way makes them unbelievers?

The problem with people like OP is their inability to realized Pentecostal churches is a product of disagreement with some teachings in protestant churches. Until OP clarify how pentecostal churches sprang up, you lack every reasons to demonize Freeze

May the God of Heaven bless you. That was how Martin Luther was spoken against as a devil then, but now we have the freedom to read the bible.
Back in those days if you are caught with a bible you could be killed, because only the priest could have access to the bible. I think Christians should go to the library and read a bit about church history.

PointZerom:
If One stole a vehicle and repents afterwards but refuses to return the vehicle to the owner or police .....has old things passed away in his life?.


He that breaks the hedge, the serpent will bite.

A person who repents will not keep a stolen vehicle my brother if he has truly repented.

Back in the days there was an evangelist who was formally an armed robber. After repentance I didn't see any punishment that he received, except s very vibrant and buoyant ministry. If God should mark iniquity who shall stand?
I have a lot of life examples, even of most of these celebrated ministers in this country and beyond.

PointZerom:
There's repercussion for any sin one commits even if God had forgiven him or her. See what God did to David for sleeping with another man's wife after forgiven him.

2 Samuel 12:11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun.

12 For thou didst it secretly:but I will do this thing before all Israel, and before the sun.


His penalty was that his own son slept with David's wife.

My brother you got it all wrong, read 2 cor 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
David was not in Christ because Christ had not sacrificed himself for the sins of mankind. There's really no time to go into this. I've heard what you said from people before but there's no where in the new testament to show such.

PointZerom:
His case is different from other apostles due to his wickedness before his encounter with God.

He's the most beaten, flogged, imprisoned etc, and he ended up not marrying. Though his sins was forgiven him but his crimes against God and humanity was out of this world for him not to be visited with the consequences.

What you are saying is that God doesn't forgive completely.
David committed more wickedness than Saul who later became Paul, yet he was a man after God's heart. And God was always with him and he was never defeated in any battle.
Have you ever read the Foxe's book of martyrs? you will see the horrible death of all the apostles. Was it because they were wicked before becoming christian? No.

If he actually said that, then he has finally agreed that Christian tithing is an error,because paying 30% is disobedience if God actually says 10%. paying either below or above is disobedience.
They are using style to change.

Hmmmmm

I'm buying two next month, but my worry is, will Mukaila my mechanic be able to service it?

Kennydoc:
Bro, I was careful to say, 'some' and I knew what I was saying.

Compare pentecostal churches like Deeper life, Assemblies of God, Mountain of Fire to churches like Christ Embassy, Living Faith, Redeemed etc. In the former churches, giving isn't taught that much and many members live in poverty. In the latter churches, giving is actively taught and fewer members live in poverty.

Let's forget Catholic Church and orthodox churches now. That's where you have the most corrupt Christians in Nigeria. Majority of the corrupt politicians, occult people, armed robbers, prostitutes, fraudsters, kidnappers etc who go to church attend catholic and orthodox churches. Mind you, I was born an Anglican, and still attend Anglican church occasionally.

Well as we have it in Orthodox churches so we have in Pentecostal too I've been part of both both as worker and minister. The old occultists in orthodox and the young cultist in Pentecostal, even most of them are in service groups. I'm talking from experience . Most of the Pentecostal pastors are even occultic themselves.
My dear brother its the same but just just different shades.

OK I've seen those four earthworms.

I think this is the best private university hostel in Nigeria, in terms of interior. At least the ones I've entered, ( C.U, Landmark, Bowen)

Kennydoc:
Now let me ask you this, have you noticed that some of the churches where giving (tithes, offerings, seed sowing etc) isn't taught and people rarely give either to the pastors or directly to the church, has some of the poorest members?

That is the greatest lie of the century. That is what you've been indoctrinated with. This is simple psychology.
All churches have poor people as well as rich people.
So my dear brother, it is an assumption.

Kennydoc:
People celebrate boys like Wizkid, Davido etc who have been more of a nuisance to our societies than a blessing. They can pay thousands of naira just to attend their shows thereby enriching them the more.

But I'll ask, is he not also enriching Gucci by buying those unnecessarily expensive wears too?

I know of a preacher who will not collect a dime from any member. It's not all pastors that are greedy.

Barbeque guy, you are welcome back I really miss u!

Must everything be on social media? All the wedding posts are enough. Now see where overdo has landed him. The wife won't take this with a pinch of salt o.

Murder or manslaughter? This country self.

Goliath's pant fall on him.

This guy could be high on something.

Those pots are only good for storage and nothing more.

cmecproblem:
I gotta say ironically this treatment is "inhuman"

No it is inanimal.

These guys are attention seekers, freeze did not insult any pastor, he only pointed out their excesses and they are all throwing words at him.
Who is this humble self, I think he should just keep quiet.
This thing really pain am o.

you can just read this in your spare time, it will clear all doubts about tithe.https://www.nairaland.com/4184887/answers-tihte-questions#62510220

Man, woman, garden before serpent appears let me just take my leave!

sontoly:
For those shouting marvel copied pls visit this links and know that both Marvel n DC have been copying each other and more since.

https://www.quora.com/Which-characters-have-DC-copied-from-Marvel

You are right its been vice versa all the way.

Now, this is what i call accurate response.

BruncleZuma:


No difference, they've been copying each other since 1939.

Flash - Quicksilver
Martian - Manhunter
Antman - Atom
Thanos - Darkseid
Dr Fate - Dr Strange
Banshee - Silver Banshee
Booster Gold - Long Shot
Hawkman - Angel
Clayface - Sandman
Moon Knight - Dark Knight
The list is long so dere gawa zie

I read a lot of DC and Marvel comics when i was growing up. They are copying each other, you said it right.

Americans are heavy consumers, they buy things they end up not using. Once visited a family in Houston Texas, their garage was packed full of all sorts of things some of them were never used for more than once. They were planning to do garage sales then. Minimalism is good anyway.