₦airaland Forum

Okobola146:
he is an agbero

Tinubu is the father of all agberos.

Just ask MC Oluomo

Bomboiy:
Atiku going for Okowa is a good news to me, Okowa doesn't have any influence outside Delta State. Wike would have been a very strong option.


As for Tinubu,this is the beginning of his failure. Choosing a northern Muslim VP in a country with Christian majority,he doesn't value the presence of Christians in Nigeria.

APC has sent a clear message that they don't care about Christain. President, presidencial candidate, Senate president and now VP Candidate are all Muslim. Where is the justice for Christians?


Anyways na Obi we know.

Where you take get the info say Christians na majority for Nigeria

Credit to Peseiro.... Good reading of the game and tactical changes

Changing from 442 to 433 to stabilize our midfield and improve our build up play.

Removing Chukwuueze for Ademola and Aina (on a yellow) for Shehu

nathyx:
Senator George Akume Benue North-central will make excellent running mate to Tinubu.

Akume will not even be able to deliver Benue state for APC so it's a waste of time. The same problem lies with Amaechi otherwise he would have been a good one.

Okorocha perhaps?

Lekan239:
read ur post I commented on again, then come back and tell me if what you wrote is based on merit or just sentimental
Water head

Spoken like a true product of the streets. Agbero

Lekan239:
u people have started ur daydreaming politics again abi. So APC is the mumu party that will just leave power to PDP after only 8years.

After Buhari first term failure, Atiku has better chance to win the election then, why didn't he win?

So ekiti,oyo, and ondo will leave tinubu a Yoruba man and vote for Atiku Fulani men that just massacre lives in owo.

You get sense atall? Or u get, but u no dey use am

Bros learn to make your points logically and rationally and not resort to insults like a typical agbero.

Did you follow the primaries at all? Did you see the massive turnout for Atiku from those states

Did you read where I said Tinubu would win SW but. Atiku would secure good number of votes from the region There would be massive rigging and vote buying in the SW because of the high level of poverty in the axis. This is the reality like it or not.

Do you think Nigerian election is about votes or vote buying?

Go figure.

Akurakambe:
It's only desperation that can make Atiku choose Wike as VP. Two of them cannot work today.

Look at it this way:

Atiku will bring in northern votes PDP
SS will be secured by Wike PDP
SE - Peter Obi but Easterners would choose Atiku/wike over Tinubu
SE - those agberos will largely support Tinubu but pockets like Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo could be won by PDP with some serious bribery.


Nothing is impossible

4 month used.... Lie lie too full your mouth

How is 2.35 affordable? Na wa ooo

Yahaha Bello... ( Why does autocorrect keep changing Yahaha to hahaha)

Does he have the cash (bullion van) of the big boys to .....? (Atiku, Tinubu, Wike)

Does he have the political backing and connections? (Atiku, Tinubu, Tambuwal, Saraki)

Does he have the economic nous of Peter Obi?

Is his tenure as governor viewed by the people of Kogi as successful or otherwise?

Miracle2022:
one step at a time.
Privatisation of electricity was not given 100% to private companies.

The question is which step have we taken forward in the power sector?

Fairmedia:
Read carefully...most times they charge N200, N500, it is small money compared to the value the heavy duty truck or transport bus is carrying. Good services takes taxes, levies or such tolling system. How many times do you trave?...it is the Dangotes and other transporters who are getting paid daily from the road, that will always pay. The amount of toll is quite insignificant to warrant a huge change in the overall cost, toll gate levies will not make any serious transport company raise fares. But it accumulates for public service and utility. Read well am talking of either concession, or public assets but run and managed by private consultants.

Bros you keep forgetting the Nigerian factor or rather, the multiplier effect that makes the market woman increase the price of pepper because dollar price went up. You may look at it that it's just N200 owe car but what if the vehicle passes 3 roads along it's journey? Doesn't that build up. If it's a commercial vehicle don't you think these added costs will be transferred

Yes transport companies may not increase bus fares but you can be sure that private transit vehicles and buses will transfer the cost of ferrying commodities to their customers who will transfer it to increased market price for their commodities.

It's better to impose a road tax on licensed trucking and bus companies for maintenance of these structures than create another pool of funds that supposedly serve the masses but instead will end up in the wrong hands like the fuel subsidy.

Fairmedia:
Tolling has a security advantage, because security personnel are also deployed at toll gates,.it also helps to slow down fleeing criminals, by paying for toll, you are paying for good service on the highways.

A country like Nigeria needs such a system, for effective security coordination, as well as providing essential services on the highways, such as free vehicle towing service, when cars break down, free services, cleaning and maintenance of the highway etc. Giving the toll to a private company to manage on behalf of government, is the way to go. Government owns the entity (tollgate), but employs private consultant to run it. It's mostly heavy duty trucks and transporters that will feel the impact of tolling, for they are always on the road, it is okay for government to tax businesses because it leads to more revenue for the state, to be used on the society. Most people hardly travel and use highways.

Bros we were all in this country awhile back when the FG cited reasons for toll gate removal and implemented same.

We are always quick to quote other climes when it comes to government's core function of providing basic amenities for its citizens arguing that management of these resources will be better in private hands , that is why our refineries don't work and our privatised power sector is basically moribund. Look at what is happening in the country regarding fuel scarcity. EVERYTHING has skyrocketed. Airlines are on the verge of shutdown.
Nigerians are suffering badly and now you want to impose road taxes which further increase the cost of transportation and goods. Which way are we going?

Miracle2022:
we don't need to continue doing the same thing year inn year out without good results. We need to change tactics.

What are the good results we have enjoyed from privatising the power sector?

Why did the government not hand these roads to private companies to construct and then manage? Why incur extra debt

ogawisdom:
Maga don pay, congratulations

There is market price n maga price

Na u sabi... Bring your own for 800k let me buy abd and pocket the difference Oga market price.

ogawisdom:
Since it's manual it's 800k max

Sold sir at 1.6m

Miracle2022:
Mr man, most of the good road you are seeing in UK are manage by private agencies. If Nigeria should hand over infrastructures development to private agencies, I promised you 80% of our infrastructure problem will be solved in 2 years.
It is better we have good road that are tolled than not having the road.

Bros.... I have 2 questions for you....
1. If private companies would be more efficient infrastructure managers, why was the construction of these roads not concessioned to them in the first place instead of government incurring massive debt?
2. Where in this country has public roads been efficiently managed by private tolling companies in the past?

budaatum:
And you think that's a good thing?




But we do. Oil subsidy, wage subsidy, and I'm certain you are worth a lot more than 30k a month.

Bros we don't. It is standard global practice for serious governments to subsidize production of essential commodities instead of consumption. Saying subsidies is not good for economic growth is simplistic at best and elitist at worst because no economy can flourish without government intervention either via regulation or spending.

This is why we're canvassing for getting the refineries working again and government doing everything to ensure they operate optimally for the common good.

And you can keep on singing it that we need to pay international wage rates to attract the best oil workers. I refuse to believe that with our daily production quota we will be unable to pay those costs unless we sell crude in dollars.

Big lie.

budaatum:
Still subsidies, which suppresses price, and discourages investment.

Remove current subsidies for pms importers and modulars will become profitable since they would not incur transport costs that importers incur.

Remove price controls too so they can sell at market price. Price at pump will initially go up, but increase in investment chasing profit will soon bring it down.

More propaganda. The US subsidises domestic agricultural production and this has not discouraged farming in the US in any capacity. If anything it has encouraged farmers to farm in the confidence that the government would cover any losses they incur if their produce is not sold or gets bad. So what are we saying?

China employs protectionist policies to ensure the interests of their indigenes are protected and that locally produced goods are way cheaper than what is exported to other countries.

Why can't we emulate these good practices

budaatum:
The difference is, we are incompetent while Saudi Arabia is competent.

If as you say we are incompetent. Why then do you want incompetent oil workers to be paid at par with their competent counterparts in Saudi Arabia?

budaatum:
I needed an excuse to sell my electric tomatoes, again.

Bros two words for you: 'essential commodities'.

Google that and the role governments have to play in ensuring these goods are available and affordable for their people.

backbencher:
But as i said it won't be cheap.

Plus in my opinion goverment setting prices for anything, crude inclusive, is a disaster awaiting

At the end people should be allowed to drill for oil.and people should be allowed to sell it at any price, international price included

At the end, fuel cannot cost less than 300 naira per liter .

Forget about whether it would be cheap or not. if the government is serious, Let's get the refineries working first and stop using our scarce Forex to import fuel at international rates and further deepen our economic woes to satisfy the cabal who are not in the least bit interested in the welfare of the people. Let's get an accurate picture of our domestic consumption and use it to set a quota for domestic refineries to produce. Let them buy from the nnpc in naira, refine in naira and sell in naira to Nigerians. I'm sure if the government beams it's eyes on the oil industry a lot of scams and padding in the so called production costs will be revealed and eliminated and as a result you will find out that these costs are not as expensive as you think.

backbencher:
Basically you are advocating government sets the price, instead of the people doing the drilling.

That's called price controls. And i bet you that the government set price would be set at a level below the actual cost of.drilling because cheap fuel and a need to keep subsidy low

I agree with you that crude sold locally need not be at international price. But it won't be as low as you want it. And it won't be free as some suggest it should be. And it won't solve our money problems because we need to diversify

This is the only sensible thing you have said so far
. Get the refineries working. Sell crude to them in naira for the local market. Determine the rate based on an in-depth independent objective analysis of the costs of oil exploration. Export the rest at international price. This will insulate the domestic economy from price fluctuations in the international market. This will reduce dollar denominated imported inflation. This will eliminate subsidies being eaten by the cabal and free up Forex for more productive uses. It's not rocket science.

You may call it price control but the truth is that every developed country adopts protectionist policies for its people to some extent. If economies like China and the US do it why can't we?

Also your analogy on the farmer is DOA. Even if the garri he produces costs 1m naira in the market, no responsible father would sell all his produce and send his family to buy garri at the market because he wants to make profit.

budaatum:
You are funny. Does this so called "natural resources" naturally just flow from the natural tap I wonder?

You "pay fat salaries of oil workers" (3 months work one month off, an Indian driller in Nigeria once told me without revealing his salary while sitting next to me in first class his company paid to get him home), to get the "natural resource" out of the ground. And if an oil firm finds it unprofitable to drill the "natural resource" out the ground and get it to market, in the ground will it stay earning zero dollars for you so you will have to "live in pernury".

Nigeria does not determine the price of crude oil, is what you miss here.

Lie from the pit of hell.... Crude oil quotas sold on the international market is determined by OPEC yes but we determine what we export. crude oil remains our resource. We are not constrained to sell locally at international prices.

backbencher:
So basically goverment should drill for oil at a loss while driving out all.companies drilling oil because they wish to.make a profit doing so.

And then government shoukd also pay workers drilling the oil bad salaries because fuel must be cheap

And you know that governemt can apply.that logic to other businesses too?

Countries that do what you advocate end up collapsing economically.

People have the right to make a profit..whether phone seller or oil.company drilling for oil. You won't work for half your salary, so that the poor would benefit, why should you force others to?

Oga sir government is not drilling oil at a loss. Get that propaganda out of your head. Other oil exporting countries remain profitable denominating their domestic quotas based on local costs and in their local currency and export the rest at a premium at the OPEC price and remain HIGHLY profitable doing so. There are so many inefficiencies in the current oil exploration process that if government increases its scrutiny will for one challenge the current quoted figures put out by oil companies as their daily oil production output because basically the current practice is that no one actually verifies the quantity of crude oil they claim they produce daily. So if they declare 20% of their actual output then that is what government shares and sells only then to go ahead to import fuel and subsidize.

Also many questions have been touted about how much we actually consume in a day and why more efforts are not being made to reduce smuggling across the borders.


It's a lie from the pit of hell that oil companies will become unprofitable because of this. Crude oil remains the property of the federal government. Oil companies get paid for exploration yes and this covers whatever costs they incur with a premium and this can comfortably be covered in the quota sold to the international market. This will also eliminate the need for importation and subsidies for importation.

Insisting that domestic refineries should buy at international rates is akin to a farmer insisting that his family go to the market to buy his produce instead of saving some for his family's consumption.

That is akin to shooting one's self in the foot and sacrificing the good of the greater for the satisfaction of the few. This is what gave birth to the so called cabal who are milking the nation dry at the expense of the majority. Even if it comes to choosing, As a responsible government there is only one real choice to make between the good of the people and paying oil companies fat bonuses at the detriment of the people. It's people like you who shouted for privatisation of Power and other government agencies instead of tackling the endemic corruption inherent in them and till today what is the result?

backbencher:
We don't set our price per se...we set it in concert with OPEC and with a lot of other countries. That's why we have things like Brent crude oil price, and suchlike. We can control the cost of producing a barrel, though.



Government.


The fact that at the end, the drillers who drill for oil , companies and employees, would earn less as a result.

What you are saying here is the equivalent of 'why doesn't the local farmer get paid less for what he produces, so that I can have cheaper food'. That's not how it works in reality.

Also, if we want to improve our forex reserve, and balance of trade, we must get away from oil and diversify. Our dependence on oil is why we have a lot of economic issues and problems.





They can work profitably if they are allowed to sell the products they refine PROFITABLY, after buying crude that they process...PROFITABLY...so that at the end of the day everyone earns a profit, and can pay for things like maintenance, staff salaries, upgrades etc.

When you said government you hit the nail on the head. Your analogy with farming is quite incorrect. Oil is a natural resource which is the wealth base of the country and the government decides the quota for export and domestic use. Government provides licenses to oil firms to prospect oil. Any oil firm who finds it unprofitable to explore oil at government determined prices is free to exit the market because more important things like the common wealth of the nation is at stake. We can't live in penury as a nation to satisfy the fat salaries of oil workers if we are serious as a nation.

backbencher:
They would, but for that refinery to work, they need to be allowed to sell PMS at market price, not at subsidy price of N162, because that refinery is not going to refine fuel at a cost less than N200/

I have a question for you sir? Who determines how much we sell our crude for but us?

Who determines how much of our crude we earmark for sale to the foreign market and the the quota for domestic consumption?

What stops the government from selling in naira at an affordable rate to local refineries to enable them produce and sell at a profit locally and then sell the remaining crude in dollars to the international market at the OPEC regulated price? Won't this even reduce the pressure on our foreign reserve and improve our balance of trade position? Won't this slash the monumental amount being expended on subsidies yearly?

Please stop peddling these lame excuses and propaganda that modular refineries cannot work profitably.

Well... Let the people of Imo state decide if the Supreme court governor is deserving of a second governor.

Who is Sam Chibueze? What are his achievements either in the business, academic or political world to be able to rub shoulders with Professor Pat Utomi??

He is simply some paid political psycophant seeking to trend.

920k

NGpatriot:
All the billions they budget from all the previously neglected roads by the PDP clowns you voted for are not nepotism, even the 2nd NB is not nepotism, it's only nepotism when it's in other parts of the country.

Seems you people are not fully and socially devloped to be part of any sane society.

Give it a rest already.... We are into the 7th year of this administration. Name one road completed by the Federal government in the south.... And by south I refer to the west, east and south-south parts of the country. Name just one federal road!