Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 6:08pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
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Didn't you see the map? |
Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 6:03pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
GAR3TH: No your wrong, the south west was part of the Royal Niger Company after the British captured the area. The Royal Niger Company was later merge with the Niger Coast Protectorate to form the Southern Nigeria Protectorate in 1900. The colony of lagos only included the lagos area and not the entire SW. The Protectorate of Southern Nigeria includes the areas once under Royal Niger Company and Niger Coast Protectorate and never included the present day SW. |
Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 5:56pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
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Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 5:46pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Aigbofa: You don't know what you are talking about. There was the colony of Lagos and protectorate of Southern Nigeria. Yes there was Colony of Lagos and Protectorate of Southern Nigeria, Colony of Lagos is the present day SW while Protectorate of Southern Nigeria is SE/SS. |
Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 5:32pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
GAR3TH: I thought the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria did include the SW expect for Lagos. The Colony of Lagos was not the entire SW but on the city of Lagos and the area around it. No it does not include SW. The Colony of Lagos covers SW. |
Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 5:21pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
ilugunboy: The revisionists are back !! ... and who is a revisionist? |
Politics › Re: Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 5:10pm On Aug 15, 2012*. Modified: 9:09am On Aug 25, 2012 |
The talk of Southern Nigeria is a farce! Colony of Lagos was not part of Southern Nigeria. Southern Nigeria includes only SE and SS and that's why we have always seen a common ground in so many issues from being overwhelmly in a common party NCNC to voting jointly for resource control in 1995 National Political Reform Conference. Every indices points to the fact that the peoples of Southern Nigeria and the people of Colony of Lagos have a strong ideological divide that can NEVER be bridged. We have to make this honest distinction in going forward. www.nairaland.com/attachments/799572_Countries_in_Nigeria_1900_pngae5a5c9931b6bc3903a8e6d3854bdde5 |
Politics › Don't Blame 1914 Amalgamation Rather Blame 1906 Amalgamation by Obiagu1(op): 4:49pm On Aug 15, 2012*. Modified: 6:24pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Often times, we blame Sir Frederick Lugard for causing the problem in Nigeria by amalgamating Protectorate of Northern Nigeria with Colony and Protectorate of Southern Nigeria in 1914 but that was not actually the root of the problem. The root of the problem dates back a few years in 1906 when Colony of Lagos was amalgamated with Protectorate of Southern Nigeria by Sir Walter Egerton to form the infamous Colony and Protectorate of Southern Nigeria.
Before this infamous amalgamation in 1906, the present SE and SS (including Edo) had nothing to do with the SW. It was Sir Walter Egerton that started using the resources of the Protectorate of Southern Nigeria to develop Yoruba land after he moved the capital from Calabar to Lagos in the same year. The once booming Southern Nigeria or call it Niger Coast Protectorate started losing its steam.
So Sir Frederick Lugard was not the problem. Sir Walter Egerton caused our problem and we will revert it. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 3:47am On Aug 15, 2012*. Modified: 4:14pm On Aug 15, 2012 |
Katsumoto: There was no war; just the miseducation of Biafrans and the attempts by others to educate them.
Trust me, Ndigbo isn't ready for another war.  Don't worry, now I know how to draw the Yorubas into any war in Nigeria. Start a war, circulate information from your enemy that discredits Awolowo and exposes who he truly was, bingo, Yorubas will take up arms. We are learning ...  |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 3:36am On Aug 15, 2012 |
The war is still raging on  |
Business › Re: China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 3:33am On Aug 15, 2012 |
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Business › Re: China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 3:27am On Aug 15, 2012 |
New business district, Yujiapu, Tianjin
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Perhaps you can copy a small English town, but how about Manhattan?
If Chinese developers have their way, the name Yujiapu will be synonymous with international finance a decade from now.
They say they are laying the foundations of the world's biggest financial zone in the muck of the northern port city of Tianjin.
However, the Reuters news agency suggests that they had to scale back their ambition recently to achieving something short of "the next Shanghai".
Tianjin now styles itself as China's home of private equity, offering firms generous tax breaks to set up there.
Meanwhile, the city looks set for a glut of prime office space.
"Tianjin... will soon have more prime office space than will be filled in a quarter-century at the current absorption rate," says business magazine Forbes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19049254 |
Business › Re: China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 3:26am On Aug 15, 2012 |
Thames Town, Shanghai
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Photographers who visit this imitation English town generally come not to capture decay but newlyweds, posing in front of mock-Tudor buildings and red phone boxes.
The Shanghai suburb boasts a market square, a castle, a neo-gothic church, cobbled streets, a pub, a chip shop, Georgian-style houses and statues of well-known English figures, such as Winston Churchill, James Bond and Harry Potter.
As a backdrop, Thames Town is a hit with the wedding industry, but that is about it.
"The city is a virtual ghost town, with empty shops and unused roads," according to an article in Business Insider.
Yet perhaps not all is lost. Apartments have reportedly been sold, to buyers who want them as investments and second homes.
The proof of the developers' pudding may lie in news that the construction of another mock English town is being planned near Beijing.
"Four miles of polluted rivers running through 1,000 acres of blighted semi-rural land will be restored and landscaped into scenic standards becoming of the English countryside," http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19049254 |
Business › Re: China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 12:33am On Aug 15, 2012 |
Wonderland Amusement Park, Nankou Town, Changping
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The Disneyesque castle and medieval ramparts of this theme park north of Beijing, conceived nearly 20 years ago, lie abandoned. Local farmers grow crops among the empty buildings.
In the mid-1990s, developers had promised to build the largest amusement park in Asia, but the project got mothballed over a land rights dispute.
The site does in fact attract visitors, according to locals quoted by Chinese media, but hardly the sort the developers had in mind - they are drawing students, photographers and artists from Beijing, apparently, in search of a "ruin culture". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19049254 |
Business › Re: China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 8:26pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
New South China Mall, Dongguang, Guangdong
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The distinction of being the world's biggest ghost mall, or emptiest shopping centre, may belong to this vast complex on the outskirts of Dongguang, a city of 10 million.
You may think the mall would be booming, with a population of that size, but the vast majority of its 1,500 stores have been empty since it was finished in 2005.
It has been hurt by poor transport infrastructure. As one blogger puts it, "unfortunately it was built in the middle of nowhere".
When Australian broadcaster SBS visited, they found a solitary toyshop owner who waits days at a time to sell a toy.
It is not as though the developers did not try. They threw in a canal, windmills and replicas of the Campanile from St Mark's Square in Venice and the Arc de Triomphe in Paris. The mall's website says it is "bound to be a miracle of commercial history".
"It's a building where you can see that there was some activity earlier - though very little - but it's like a ghost town," writes Netherlands-based blogger Mathilde Teuben, who visited two years ago.
"The very few shops that are there are deserted of customers. It was also funny to see some of the promotional posters for the mall which mostly depicted happy Caucasian children." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19049254 |
Business › Re: China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 8:24pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
New city of Chenggong, Yunnan
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"In Chenggong, there are more than 100,000 new apartments with no occupants," according to the World Bank's Holly Krambeck. Designed as an overspill point for nearby Kunming, a city of nearly six-and-a-half million, Chenggong began to take shape in 2003.
High-rise apartment blocks have mushroomed but today it is still largely deserted after failed attempts by the authorities to attract new residents.
Matteo Damiani, an Italian journalist who worked for seven years in Kunming, has visited Chenggong several times, photographing empty tower blocks that loom over gigantic plazas, peopled only by enormous works of art.
He found a small community of students, workers and security guards but nobody else.
"The suburbs and even the city centre are empty," he says. "You can find a big stadium, shopping malls and hundreds of buildings finished but abandoned."
There is even an area for luxury villas that is totally abandoned, he adds.
It is said to be one of the biggest ghost cities in Asia. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19049254 |
Business › China's Ghost Towns And Phantom Malls by Obiagu1(op): 8:23pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
As growth slows, China's huge investment in infrastructure is looking ever harder to sustain, leaving a string of ambitious projects - towns, shopping malls and even a theme park - empty and forlorn.
"We have spoken a lot about these ghost towns in Ireland and Spain recently [but China] is Ireland and Spain on steroids," says Kevin Doran, a senior investment fund manager at Brown Shipley in the UK.
Investment in infrastructure accounts for much of China's GDP - the country is said to have built the equivalent of Rome every two months in the past decade. And with such a large pool of labour, it is harder to put the brakes on when growth slows and supply outstrips demand.
"You have got seven to eight million people entering the workforce in China every single year, so you have to give them something to do in order to retain the legitimacy of the government," says Doran.
"Maybe 10 or 15 years ago they were doing things that made sense - roads, rail, power stations etc - but they have now got to the point where it's investment for investment's sake." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19049254So which are the most striking of these white elephants? |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 7:41pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
[size=16pt]Stop tribalism, stop the hate.
Yorubas please support Biafra, we will support Odua Republic.[/size] |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 7:28pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
A pro-Biafran group has formally applied that Biafra be accorded the status of an observer member of the United Nations. I hope my Yoruba brothers support us and I hope the UN accepts the application. No more tribalism. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 7:19pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
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I'm still waiting for you to challenge Fani Kayode and be bold to call him a lie. Stop ranting on NL. |
Politics › Re: Biafra Group Applies For UN Membership by Obiagu1(m): 7:17pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
Nawa o! Why are Yorubas angry? This love-hate by the Yorubas is really confusing. Can somebody please tell me what they want? |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 6:19pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
Goddess12: What if Banjo had been a double agent planted by SW to screw you guys up, war is not for the fainthearted, in war there are no rules, anything goes. Nothing is impossible but that still does not rule out, now a fact, that Awolowo was to declare independence too. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:08pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
I have asked so many questions as the stories were not adding up. Why was Col. Banjo chosen? Why didn't Biafrans kill him when he stopped at Ore and push forward?
Now I've got the answers. Truth must see the light at the end of the day. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:05pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
2mch: The revision continues. Abeg, i wan die of laughter from this post. Make una no kill peson for NL. rotflmao! Where is kobojunkie to come an supply the laughing stone. Who again were they going to send towards the SW? A yoruba soldier that knows the terrain and the language of course. Banjo knew that if he did not peacefully ask, him and his ancestors plus generations would have been dealt with. He is not an Igbo afterall. He understood that while choosing alliances, respect for his people and culture was ultimate. Igbo's failed in their unplanned war. just deal with it and move on. Igbo's were fighting to secede, why advance to the SW to rescue them? I thought secession was removal, and not rule over the country. So why the interest in the seat of power? No, they were not sent to rescue the Yorubas but to bolster Western army and give them more confidence going forward. Awolowo has always complained they did not have enough to counter the Northerners in Yorubaland hence the advance troop from Biafra. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:00pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
^^^ ACM10: You've started to inundate us with your lies again. Ojukwu's letter to Banjo. . .Busted as forgery. Ojukwu's letter to Awolowo. . . Busted as forgery. Yoruba enlisted to fight against the Igbos after the midwest invsion. . . Busted as lie. Now, Ojukwu charged landing fees to aid agencies. How long will u continue to disturb our eardrums with your cacophony of lies? Pls can u name the aid agency involved and when it happens? Don't waste your time with the works of hack writers. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 4:43pm On Aug 14, 2012 |
Eziachi: Its not a new revelation, as many of us then knew the truth from the day one. I had told you guys here on Nairaland that Biafran forces original intention of pushing to Lagos was because of the expectant Yoruba declaration of their own republic. That we will be around to help in the event of attack against them by the northerners, but just like Aburi, they changed their mind without notice. 1966 Boys acted because of what they perceived unjust imprisonment of Awolowo and the deep rooted corruption plantation of Balewa's govt, but when it went wrong, it became an Igbo coup, even when the facts said otherwise.
All these are now in the past and the future is what is important but the fact remained that you cannot cover the truth forever. Everything is beginning to make sense to me. -Awolowo had a pact with Biafra to declare Oduduwa Republic -Biafra sent soldiers, led by a Yoruba, to beef up Yoruba army since they complained they did not have enough to fend off the Northerners -Biafra soldiers led by Col. Banjo got stuck at Ore as the signal and the declaration was not forthcoming -Awolowo changed his mind when he was promised Presidency and decided to join forces against Biafrans. -3rd Marine Commandos was constituted led by a Yoruba to attack Biafra. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:45am On Aug 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: What you heard is irrelevant; otherwise, the courts would accept hearsay.
Are you writing a book for adults, kids, or martians? You want to write a credible book and quote a newspaper? You are free to do that but you can't hinge all of your argument on that alone. I told you before, challenge Fani Kayode himself, maybe he will come out with more detail and remember to call him a lie. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:35am On Aug 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: Can you shed some light on the pact Awo had with Biafra?
In the time I have spent on NL, I am yet to meet a Biafran who has articulated this debate about Awo having a pact and backing that position with some facts.
When are you guys going to put up or shut up? Who was present at this pact? Where was it held? What day?
Awo and Ojukwu met and their conversation was recorded; there was no pact. You've been on NL for long and Igbos have always said that Awo was to declare independence too but that didn't happen. Now, Kayode, a Yoruba, repeated the same thing. We don't have proof to back it up because we don't have it if that's what you need to believe it, but we know there was one from what we've heard. As for writing a book, I can write one and quote Kayode, after all, his statement was published on a newspaper. Isn't it acceptable as a reference, the same kind of reference used by some of these revisionists? |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:26am On Aug 14, 2012*. Modified: 6:06am On Aug 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: Can you at least present something to support your position other than 'things that went on behind closed doors'?
Why should Awo have said 'you must fight Biafrans and call upon me when you are ready? Did Awo tell you in May 1967 he was taking sides? The man argued for peace, at least thats whats contained in his speeches and efforts. You guys need to leave all this 'bullshit assumptions' in your village squares. Stop trying to interprete Awo's mind, you are not mind readers. His language is very clear. I'm not trying to interpret Awo's mind. I never heard of the One mile military corridor from Offar to Wharf until now and I doubt if you do either. Some things are hidden until there is a quarrel. This is the problem with historians, you read what others wrote but won't accept any other thing said by anyone. What if Kayode publishes his own account of events, will you quote him? The scenario in which he made this statement makes it even more believable because it is neither an attack on Awo nor an attempt to rewrite history to favour the Yorubas over the Igbos or vise versa. It's none of these. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 5:12am On Aug 14, 2012 |
Katsumoto: Fani-Kayode was irrelevant from Jan 1966; he was not privy to any information of that sort. So we are supposed to take the words of a returnee junkie as gospel just because he has provided 'some truths', your words, which feeds into your predisposed but unproven views?
Can any of you shed light on this phantom agreement Awo had with Biafra? Neither you nor I knew actually what went on behind closed doors. Awo's speech was how a speech should be, you don't give out everything; unfortunately, that's were you're solely anchoring your argument on. The conditional clause carries less weight, just a way to say, "hey, this could happen if" before he goes back to plan how to actualise his plan. He never said, you must fight Biafrans and call upon me when you are ready, did he? North gave their warning, gave conditions like Usman Faruk stated and gave promises like Kayode stated and neither were made public to you and I. I would have doubted Kayode if his intent was to attack Awolowo, but he was just bragging "we Yorubas did it for you" to the extent he claimed 95% of the 3rd Marine Commandos were of Yoruba descent to give himself a sense of pride. |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 4:45am On Aug 14, 2012*. Modified: 4:01am On Aug 15, 2012 |
Katsumoto: It is only on NL that you will see a motley crue of ignorant, disingenuous, and downright foolish personas who will feed on the words of a drug-user like Fani-Kayode to malign the person of the GREAT Obafemi Awolowo.
1. How relevant is the individual Who precisely is Fani-Kayode? Who appointed him a spokesman of the Yoruba? The only relevance Fani-Kayode derives, are from his former godfather, the gorilla of Owu and his father who was expelled from AG and too irrelevant to be killed by the Jan 66 plotters. . Has Fani-Kayode won an election any where in Nigeria? Was Fani-Kayode not a junkie when he was returned to Nigeria?
2. Motive Fani-Kayode’s father was expelled from Awo’s AG and would fall into obscurity after Jan 1966
3. Knowledge Was Fani-Kayode present when Gowon promised Awo presidency? Would Fani-Kayode and the resident idiots on NL have us believe that Gowon and Murtala were foolish enough to believe that Awo would fall for that cheap bait or that Awo was daft enough to fall for the said bait?
In any case, Fani-Kayode showcases the gaps in his history by stating that the 3rd Marine Commando was 98% Yoruba. The 3MC was formed from the Lagos Garrison Office (LGO) and that didn’t even have a Yoruba majority. There's no need to attack his person. His father was a key player then and he was privy to information you don't have or have continually denied. His response to Alhaji Usman Faruk was not intended as an attack on Awolowo, rather he was merely setting the record straight. Igbos have always maintained that there was a pact with Awolowo that he reneged on. Unfortunately for Fani Kayode, he let out the "thou shall never mention" not knowing that it will anger historians like you. You can deny all you want, attack him all you want but you can never twist the truth one bit! |
Politics › Re: Fani-Kayode: Yorubas Won The Civil War For Nigeria by Obiagu1(m): 3:57am On Aug 14, 2012 |
PhysicsQED: If one washed up, loudmouthed, "attack dog" (as Fani Kayode was described) non-Igbo controversial politician from the Midwest who served in some administration comes out and starts making claims about this or that or putting forward his perspective on history, I'm sure Obiagu will be ecstatic and do a backflip right there on the spot , as if that would be anything other than one man's opinion. See how Physics wan kill me for here. I for no mention Midwest at all, in fact, I retract every mention of Midwest. https://www.emofaces.com/en/emoticons/s/surrendering-emoticon-animated-white-waving-flag.gif |