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wouldnt the balloon need a pilot and FAAN approval. i think it would be akin to running an airline. you may have to go through the government first

even if they were giving away free food in cameroon or benin, you'd find some nigerians going there for it. doesnt mean the whole country is starving. or even the whole north

he will be remembered as a necessary evil to take us from darkness to the shade. perhaps yar adua will take us to the light. he was a brute and lacked sophisticated thinking, but he was able to get a few things done like allowing gsm to grow and paying off our debt (which im still not sure is as great as its made out to be)

ultimately he played the role i expected of him, which is a bridge from the ugly past of generals running the country (he is an ex general turned civilian) to a pure civilian running the country. the next step is for another civilian to take over. he will be remember as our rawlins, without the bloodshed

what knd of dogs do you breed?

What are the steps and costs of starting a not for profit or NGO in nigeria?

They should be tied up and killed because they have an opinion that differs from yours or because they had the audacity view their opinions? Yeye man

because they are stupid and are a drain on resources

glo all the way. mtn is a fraud

thanks again. great site

he said the election had short comings. he did not say it was not free or fair. big difference

justifying it in principle is different from approving the mode of application, I'm sure you can distinguish between the two Wink

I support emissions control in principle, that is what I tried to make clear.

how did i know you would be in here talking nonsense like the stupid shit you are

the good news is hat it helps the government make a distinction between th legitimate groups and the criminals. those that continue their violence despite these overtures from yar adua should be treated harshly. hopefully this is a first step and the new administration invests in the ND to bring a better life to the people there

well he has been released
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By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: June 14, 2007

Filed at 7:12 a.m. ET

ABUJA, Nigeria (AP) -- A court on Thursday ordered a top militant leader from Nigeria's oil region free on bail, partly meeting a key condition for ending attacks that have roiled Africa's oil giant.

Judge Peter Olayiwola ordered Mujahid Dokubo-Asari freed -- after two Nigerian citizens signed court papers as guarantors -- and said his trial would recommence when medical staff declared him fit to stand. Dokubo-Asari suffers from diabetes and other health ailments, his lawyers say.

thanks everyone. your responses have been great and helpful in forwarding my hobby and overall goal

thank you isho. fact remains we need in objectivity in how our nation i presented.

@the dumb and dumber clowns i was dealing with yesterday: folks like you should be tied up on bar beach and killed. i'd gladly do the dirty work.

a lazy argumentative style is to change the focus of the topic. fact remains that mend is not unique, hence the reference to ira and eta. im sure there are other groups out there than one would add to the list. i want to see a staged report on those groups or a presentation similar to what we saw in the ND

as i stated earlier, i understand why they do it. they own the media.

but your reasons stem from ignorance and worse

i'm not going to be dragged in BS. stick to the issue of the media portrayal of nigeria and your twisted mentality regarding the country.

@It can't be presented in the same way because the situations are significantly different.You can't compare Bilbao(Basque-Spain) to the Niger-Delta.Bloody hell!

thats your position. the situations are very similar.

where in Europe is an area producing 15billion dollars yearly in income unable to have drinking water, hospitals, electricity, housing and other basic amenities?

are you saying this is why jeff and cnn staged the story? because of the injustice of the nigerian government?

the issue at hand is the image portrayed in the western media. the double standards, the fact that the issues that exist in the ND also exist in their lands, but is not presented the same way. if you are lost, go back and reread the titled then the subject of the posts that follow.

once again you are showing your stupidity. your are losing focus? this is not about the actions of the central government. but you know what. you are just avoiding addressing the central issue at hand,

@I-man, i don't need to prove it to you. frankly you're incapable of understanding anything. the gay trailing you, the one i called stupid shit is now running behind you, with you guys hi fiving each other over BS.

fact remains, i've shifted your arguments from painting the ND problem in nigeria as all of nigeria to pointing out it exists in the so called bastions of civilization. the best you can do at this point is fake thar it is worse in nigeria. you cannot say it does not exist there in europe. and has existed a such for 40 odd years

You have told us that there has been violence in the UK or Spain,which was never in dispute.You have failed to show that it is more dangerous than the ND(presumably Niger-Delta).

The media potrays the reality on the ground.You asked why the media doesn't highlight the IRA problem in Ulster.The simple reason is that there hasn't been an IRA attack since 1998.The IRA has been disbanded since 2005 as a para-military organisation.

ETA's problem still exists but on a much lesser case than what we have in the Niger-Delta.Lack of media coverage of the violence is mainly due to the fact that there is little or nothing to cover.2 fatalities in Dec 2006,2 more in 2003.What are they supposed to cover again?

why must i show you it is more violent in the ND than in basque. why?

the two of you are dumb and dumber.

The above exposes the fact that you are grammatically challenged.The death toll in the UK and Spain is "relatively puny" compared to the Niger-Delta.It is dishonest to remove the term "relatively" to give my statement another meaning.

Utter drivel! Which deaths are happening in the UK?There hasn't been any separatist killings by the IRA or any of its splinter groups since 1998.The fact that violence in the Niger-Delta is significantly worse than in the UK or Spain is apparent to all but the most phenomenally ignorant.This is for the simple reason that there is no violence happening in the UK and there has been relatively fewer deaths in Spain(4 in the last 4 years).The Niger-Delta is witnessing violence that exceeds anything one may find in Spain or the UK.

presently yes, but so what. im comparing the entire movements, not convenient pockets in their history


Your ignorance is unparralleled.The IRA has not called for a ceasefire.The IRA has renounced the armed struggle and decomissioned its weapons.This has never happened before.Comparing the IRA 's renunciation of violence to MEND's call for a ceasefire is utterly fatuous.


Why?

Your posts veer from the moronic to the blatantly dishonest
The "disparate treatment" is due to the simple fact that there is no violence to cover.Which violence are they going to cover in the UK, for instance? Is this not complete lunacy? When there has been violence,like in the early 90s.The media gave it wall to wall coverage.They hid nothing,unlike our notoriously quiet NTA.

i lived in the UK before the ceasefire and I also lived in the US before the ceasefire. at no time did the coverage ever paint the violence there as they do in nigeria. you keep harping on this period of the ceasefire. im speaking of the larger history and actions of these two groups. calling me a lunatic or whatever may make you feel better, but doesnt carry your point


IRA doesn't kill at all anymore.ETA has killed 4 people over the last 4 years(2 in 2006 and 2 in 2003).However,even the very link you cited noted that MEND has killied much more-10 on the 2nd of October 2006,9 workers for ENI earlier in the year.This death toll,while not by any means an exhaustive toll of the deaths caused by MEND,is much worse than the exhaustive death toll,attributable to the IRA and ETA in the same year-0 for the IRA and 2 for ETA in 2006.This is 9 times as worse and appears from your very own link.

once again, you talk only about the honeymoon period. why avoid the other par of their history?

For God's sake,shut up!3,000 people were killed in Ulster(N.Ireland) since then,900 people in the Basque region.In between that time,Nigeria has had a civil war(I million dead) and innumerable casualties from a variety of conflicts.

now the civil war is blamed on MEND. what is the point of raising the civil war in this argument? your rage is showing and you are losing focus

The burden of proof rests on a person who makes a claim.I have cited a multiplicity of sources(Shell,Amnesty International,Global Security.org) who claim that the total death toll in the Niger-Delta hovers around the 1,000 mark per annum.You have cited no source to vindicate your claim that the deaths are limited to "one or two unfortunate Nigerian police or soilder".Put up or shut up.
http://www.loccidental.net/english/spip.php?article62
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6269351.stm
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13248051.htm

for 1000 to be killed a year, we would need close to 100 people killed a month in the ND. my friend, do you really believe that. i mean honestly. do you really believe 100 people are killed a month in the ND?

[b]"Such grievances are one of several reasons for the escalating violence, which according to conflict experts and security analysts, left over a thousand deaths in the Niger Delta in 2003. Amnesty International’s calculations based on local and international media reports, show that the number of people killed in the Delta, Rivers and Bayelsa States in 2004 up to and including incidents in late August, could be in the region of 670"

Where does the above state 1999? Huh What an oaf

"Annual casualties from fighting already place the Niger Delta in the 'high intensity conflict' category (over 1,000 fatalities a year), alongside more known cases such as Chechnya and Colombia.

No rational person will believe that the above refers to the one-off conflict in Odi back in 1999.One of the links I put up,put the Odi death tolll at 2,483 fatalities.


Let me end by repeating the question I put to you before-Is Bilbao(Basque-Spain) less safe than Port-Harcourt? If you weren't so inebriated in your imbeccilitty,you would know better. [/b]

you really should take my advice and read what you post carefully. the category 'high intensity conflict' refers to fatalities over 1,000. meaning that fatalities of 2,483 would also qualify. it doesnt have to be exactly 1,000. thats why the Odi incident is part of the list you provided to me.

On November 20, 1999, barely six months into his first term as civilian president of Nigeria, President Obasanjo ordered soldiers into Odi, a town in the Niger Delta. By the time they left, the destruction of Odi was complete and 2,483 people had been slain. The dead included women, children and the aged and infirm.

so even though its not exactly 1,000 people dead, but its over 1,000, it still falls within the category. looks like you dont even understand what you are posting.

So calling you or whoever, stupid shit is what is paining you. LOL. anyway, to answer your question I can't tell you if PH is safer because i dont have the population figures for both regions. i also dont know the source of violence in both regions. If you want me to tell ou where I think is safer, I can do that. but none of us really know. we'd base it on perception. and i can already tell how you perceive nigeria. At any rate your question is off base. Port Harcourt is not the base of operation of MEND. They don't have a base per se, so I don't know why you singled out PH.

I don't need to prove that 1000 people die a year from the activities of MEND. thats your assertion. the links you provided don't state that. besides, idiot, you are doing the very thing that is the basis of this thread. which is basing your opinion on my dear country on the western media. is that all you have to tell you about nigeria. what about your experience in the ND perhaps?

the fact remains that the media paints nigeria and africa in an unfair light. without me bringing up the ETA and IRA in this thread, few would have compared the coverage of those regions and the ND and seen the clear hypocrisy. you may not want to admit it, but statements about that reference "relatively puny' death tolls, don't help your point, but hurt it because it signifies that these major world countries grappled with the same problems that nigeria does. and they also fail at solving these problems. and stating that the violence has reduced is weak. the violence ranged for 40 years; a short stay of the violence is the exception in britain and spain, not the rule.

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@big shishi: can you find me the names of any of these kennels or contact info about them.

naija king: i don't eat dog, but it's a part of my culture and i don't hold any grudge against those that do, even though i love dogs as pets.

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your response was funny, mamba. im a calabar man, but im looking for breeders of diff dogs to organize and start a club. it's a hobby of mine and i want to take it further. if interested, do write back.

and those that want to keep harping on the dog eating business, we don't eat pure bred dogs anyway.

This is nothing but brazen idiocy.I live in Europe,Britain to be precise.Nobody feels threatened by the IRA.Apart from the obvious fact that the IRA renounced violence since 2005(must have escaped your notice),there has not been any known significant acts of violence by the IRA or any of its splinter groups since the Armagh bombing in 1998(9 years ago).

ETA in Spain is still violent( 900 people have died since 1968) but its death toll is relatively puny.Very few people,if any get killed by ETA these days.I don't know the precise yearly casualty figures from ETA's activities but I do know that 46 people have been killed since 1998 .That works out at 5.1 deaths per annum.

Compare this,to the current situation in the Niger Delta.Here are some reports on the situation in the region

You are so desperate to defend the europeans over your country that you have stooped to calling the deaths by these groups "puny." try telling that to the families. the fact remains these deaths are happening in supposedly 2 of the richest countries in the world with the resources to stop the violence. yet they have not done it. yet, you guys want to make nigeria's own seems worse. c'mon. compare the 'puny' killings of any of those groups and tell me, honestly, which is worse. mend or those euro killers.

I guess it also escaped you that MEND has also called for a cease fire. and that the IRA has also called for a cease fire before and yet resumed fighting later. let me also point out to you that most nigerians are not afraid of MEND either, because the ND is remote from most places in nigeria, especially places of significant commerce like lagos, abuja and kano, that most of the attacks take place off the coast of nigeria in oil rigs, and also because MEND and co tend to attack mostly foreigners, not nigerians. I when i say attack, i mean kidnap. IRA and co tend to blast anyone, even children, and do it in very public places like trains and what not as my links point out. if anything, you are making the point that these groups are very similar, with slight and differences. and the differences play out in favor of MEND, who are less violent.

so why the disparate treatment in the media and in the minds of unpatriotic nigerians like yourself.? the first part is easy to answer, since we don't own the media, they will continue to talk nonsense about us. but how can you explain the fact that supposedly intelligent nigerians like yourself also buy into that same crap. perhaps i'm being too generous by assuming you are intelligent.

you keep pointing out that "these days" basque and ira dont kill as much. well mend never killed much, and will probably kill less in the future. doesn't something shake in your brain when you write that these movements have been around since 1968! i mean think about that for a while. that sort of violence for close to 40 years! spain and britain have lived with these movements and are still first world countries. these separatist movements don't take away from the progress of those countries, and fools like you that believe mend classifies all nigeria are one of our biggest problems because you go around parroting the same lies. pointing out that the IRA and britain are trying to solve he problem by agreeing to a cease fire does not dismiss thier violent and bloody past.

how many of you here want to bet that nigeria solves the mend problem before britain or spain EVER solve their separatist problems?

the article you listed shows you are a stark raving idiot.

1. only a fool like you would believe that over 1000 people have been killed in the ND yearly. the papers constantly report one or two unfortunate nigerian police or soldier died. if you believe 1000 people are killed there a year, (greater than the annual loss of soldiers by americans in iraq and afganistan annually) than you are as big a fool as i imagined.

2. read the articles that you bother to post. it states that the killing is as a result of OBJ ordering soldiers to raid and level villages in the ND. this was not killing done by MEND. your article is misplaced.

3. the killing done by OBJ happened in 1999. years before MEND was even formed.

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dude quit it, to even compare the violence level in those countries to the ND is simply unreasonable. it cannot be defended in anyones imagination except yours

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Provisional_IRA_Actions#2000s

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/sierra/spain1968.htm

these are links to the amount of people killed by both movements in both spain and britain, you stupid shit. now read them and let me know which separatist group is more violent.


this is a link to MEND and their activities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movement_for_the_Emancipation_of_the_Niger_Delta

the point being that one would never think these countries even have this sort of activity within them. yet nigeria is painted as though the whole place is in conflict. of course shit like you cant tell the difference because the white man's dick is so far down your throat.

There are some comments that one encounters in life that can sap one's energy to respond.Faced with brazen ignorance,one cannot find the words.

you have no words because you cannot disprove anything i have stated. are there not seperatist movements in spain and britain? and are these groups not violent?

uyai, dont mind them. some posters on this site want to dismiss nigeria but yet they can't stay away from it. if they hate it so much they should leave it for those that love it instead of running it down.

fact is nigeria is like many other countries have separatist amongst them. jeff didnt simply show the militants, but the most damning thing he did on his report was stated that the nigerian army was not even aware of the hostages being held by these guys. that MEND had 24 filipinos hostages and the fed gov didn't even know. it was a major insult. and proven to be false.

Enlighten me!Must have missed the countless reports of kidnappings for ransom in the West by militant groups.

are you aware of the separatist movements in both spain and britain that have festered for years? yet these places are always presented as safe havens and romantic spots. they isolate the problem and present a clean view to the world. in fairness the same should apply to nigeria. the ND problem is in small pockets of the ND, and frankly it is not as dangerous as the IRA in britain or the Bath (spelling?) in spain that bomb innocent citizens. as least the ND target specific groups and can be predictable

this nonsense about making nigeria out to the be the heart of darkness is clearly racist and betrays their motives. the sad part is many of the posters on this site are so ignorant and uneducated that they can't even see that very clear message