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Christianity EtcRe: Zambian Pastor laments about Nigeria Gospel Junk exported all over Africa by ochukoccna: 3:25pm On Nov 08, 2011
eGuerrilla:
At the height of the cold war, with so many of Africa's newly emerging countries - Angola, Mozambique, Namibia, Zimbabwe - turning eastward, the likes of Billy Graham and the CIA served a new dish.
All this conspiracy theories again? shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
I've read about how the Belgian king used missionaries who were in fact economic mercenaries take over parts of East Africa yet that doesn't negate the fact that God exists even though Europe and America are long lost in apostasy. tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
Sadly, they've incubated their poisonous seed -the godless prosperity gospel- in Africa's womb
Christianity EtcRe: Zambian Pastor laments about Nigeria Gospel Junk exported all over Africa by ochukoccna: 12:40pm On Nov 08, 2011
eGuerrilla:
A lot of Nigerians do not understand the involvement of the CIA in promoting this development.
I recall just like yesterday watching several coaches pull up outside my school, with Nigerian missionaries (Scripture Union students from the College of Medicine, UNILAG)) bearing Greek gifts: bags containing fan ice, biscuits, chocolates in one hand; a copy of Gideon's bible, which dwells on the new testament, in the other.
I am wiser now to know where some of the funds for that project came from grin
CIA? huh huh huh shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Yarn on
Christianity EtcRe: Zambian Pastor laments about Nigeria Gospel Junk exported all over Africa by ochukoccna: 11:18am On Nov 08, 2011
my problem is just hw quik d present prosperity teachn clerics forget what Jesus himself taught,
Jesus said things like **it wuld be easy for a camel to pass through d eye of a needle that for a rich man to enter into Gods kingdom, Jesus also said that we cannot slave for 2 masters,we cant slave for God & riches, apostle paul thru timothy warned that those who love money and d desires of this world are headin for destruction, also d apostles also warned that those who r determined to be rich fall into temptations dat plunge men in destruction, the wisest man solomon also gave timely advice on how material things shuld be viewed, what God assures us of as true servants of His is our basic needs not material wealth,
Hold it
Just hold it
The key thing here is motive
Christ speaking about a rich man meant one who took pride in himself and his abilities and not in God's supply of grace
Paul's admonition to Timothy emphasized the love of money. Money itself is not bad, the love of it is. Remember money is the medium of exchange on this planet not speaking in tongues.
Same goes for the apostles, they were pointing out the motive, determining to be rich [which in the original language interprets as strong compelling lusts]
Nicodemus was rich, Christ never told him to be poor
Joseph of Arimathea was influential that's why he could have audience with Pilate for Christ's body
God is not against us been rich

What counts is the process we come about it
Especially not in the way this Babylon themed Papa and Mama churches go about theirs


woodcook:
Is like Nigerian pastors are trying to run him out of business in his country. Guess he should to be at the top of the business. He should step up, re-strategies and stop complaining. grin grin
The true church is not a business
So there is nothing to re-strategize about it
Same message then, Same message now
Jesus Christ is the only way, truth and life
Gerrit? undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Zambian Pastor laments about Nigeria Gospel Junk exported all over Africa by ochukoccna: 10:31am On Nov 08, 2011
Gadols:
I agree with the Conrad guy but again he needs to realize that this phenomenon is not only in nigeria
and it will be wrong to come up with such title. Nigeria is sure corrupt but the church you would agree has help
in curbing the menace. it could have been worse.
It is true that the phenom is not peculiar to 9ja yet as of today its epicenter is located here
America pioneer this technology
9ja has modernized, patented& exported it
Imagine worshiping mammon and calling him God
Even Nigerian gospel music is seriously infected with this virus

How many times have you heard Ron Kenoly or Don Moen songs singing about money, houses and cars like hip hop gangsters? undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
CelebritiesRe: Michael Jackson's Doctor Found Guilty Of Involuntary Manslaughter by ochukoccna: 10:41pm On Nov 07, 2011
Any discerning person would have seen his conviction coming.
The evidence against him was quite significant.
So here's another black man looking at 4 years staring @ prison bars.
CelebritiesRe: Michael Jackson's Doctor Found Guilty Of Involuntary Manslaughter by ochukoccna: 10:35pm On Nov 07, 2011
^^^
Who made Jackson a junkie?
Was it not Conrad Murray?
EducationRe: Masters Degree Enquiry by ochukoccna: 8:17pm On Nov 07, 2011
Have yoou tried this
www.google.com ?
It works like magic
EducationRe: Books Vs Electronics? by ochukoccna: 7:22pm On Nov 07, 2011
we need both
both
especially in Africa
EducationRe: Need Good Calculus And Physics Ebook by ochukoccna: 6:35pm On Nov 07, 2011
HealthRe: Why Is Smoking So Hard To Quit? by ochukoccna: 4:40pm On Nov 07, 2011
@ hothead,
This is about 2 years after, have you overcome smoking. huh huh huh huh huh huh
I see from your profile that you still posted around August this year indicating your account is still active.
HealthRe: Why Is Smoking So Hard To Quit? by ochukoccna: 4:37pm On Nov 07, 2011
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If you want to help people, attach the PDF here. All this mail my email sound like scams
HealthRe: I Always Feel Feverish Each Time I Try To Stop Marijuana Smoking by ochukoccna: 4:32pm On Nov 07, 2011
kinjiggy:
The last time I smoked was On Saturday 30th Jan. though not as promised, but by the grace of God was able to resist it and started having feverish symptoms 5 days after, but didn't allow it to weigh me down. The reason is that If I don't report to work on health grounds, there must be an evidence of my visit to the company clinic, and I don't want to visit the company's clinic 4 fear of testing positive to cannabis.

How many days do I need to be sure this cannabis is no longer in my blood? for someone who's been smoking 4 years.
Cannabis stays in the blood stream for about 45-50 days after you smoke your last joint
Have you gotten over it now?
HealthRe: I Always Find It Hard To Get Mad At People by ochukoccna: 4:28pm On Nov 07, 2011
This one na big time blessing O! grin grin grin grin
You are naturally meek cool cool cool cool
Your inborn gift is in great demand as a customer service rep
Christianity EtcRe: I Believe Pastor Chris Should Be Respected by ochukoccna: 4:21pm On Nov 07, 2011
Basito:
What is the misunderstanding and quarrel over the simple truth 'Pastor Chris should be respected'.?God will be so disappointed at any man that uses his intelligence against God's wisdom.The wisdom of God is not taught in universities but in the churches(1Tim3v15), the church of God, the pillar and ground of THE TRUTH.The word of God is the only tool that  can help us analyse and judge all Christian activities.
How would you feel to know that all your criticisms against this great man of God, Pastor Chris, are unfair characterisations made out of ignorance and do not represent what happens in the church?
Romans14v4(TLB):They are God's servants, not yours.They are responsible to him(God),not to you.Let him tell them whether they are right or wrong.And God is able to make them do as they should.
If we must accept the truth, this scripture knocks of what one of the persons said that God has anointed them also to criticise pastor Chris.
The bible shows us from the scripture above that they(the likes of Pastor Chris, Prophet T.B Joshua, Bishop Oyedepo etc) are God's servants and no man has the responsibility of talking them down, it is deadly to call men of God names. I thought, intelligence should rather help us to understand and accept the truth.
1Tim5v17:Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
We can see clearly from the scripture above that Pastor Chris deserves honour and respect from all of us, and this has nothing to do whether you like it or not, whether you believe it or not, because it is God's idea for his men to be respected.You will only endanger your own self if you choose not to respect them.

It is true that the church should be the platform to demonstrate God's wisdom [read Ephesians 3:10] but not the crazy religion & atrocities taking place their now in the name of God's wisdom. undecided undecided undecided
Nigerians are renowned for their intelligence globally but their gullibility in the hands of this celebrity ministers sitting as gods in the temples of commercial Christianity is mind bogging to say the least


It is true they are God's servants  [if indeed He and not their bellies] called them to ministry in the first place
None the less, Christ severely warned His followers to be wary of ministers who inwardly were wolves and outwardly sheep
He spoke on what was expected of a minister's lifestyle in regards to character and worldly attachment to possessions
Many times Paul spoke of the deprivations he purposely undertook in order that the gospel he preached would not be tarnished and no one would accuse him of greed and covetousness
He wrote on what was expected of a pastor's family
Even scripture warns us to test all spirits
If you apply half of the above to your celeb pastor club, you will find they fail woefully



You may choose to honor chris O for all you care shocked shocked shocked
It's a free world undecided undecided undecided
Yet what deprivations has he suffered for the word of Christ?
Where has he labored in word and doctrine?
Even Christ said take heed to what you hear
Do you?
Are you like the Bereans who heard Paul speak and went through their bibles to see if it was so?
Many in today's church would gladly fall down at the feet of the apostles who followed Christ and Paul to worship
Yet Peter forbid Cornelius from doing so reminding him he was a mere man saved by God's grace like him
Paul and Barnabas tore their clothes and rebuked men from worshiping them at Lystra
Are your celeb pastors this humble?
They peddle cunningly devised fables to you and you scream preach it
This deceitful workers masquerading as apostles of Christ
Go read 2nd peter again
But you love it so seeing you have developed itchy ears to the truth
May God himself open the eyes of His straying children to the truth
Maranatha
Christianity EtcRe: I Believe Pastor Chris Should Be Respected by ochukoccna: 3:45pm On Nov 07, 2011
Pastor Kun:
Joagbaje sharrap and stop giving all these flimsy excuses for your thieving Oga. Someone already used an example of a politician returning campaign donations becos the source was questionable, should we expect less from a church or a supposed man of God? The church is supposed to be at the epitome when it comes to morals, ethics and righteousness. Stop giving daft excuses for your thieving boss cause he is just a shameless common criminal. Imagine a pastor looking for legal loopholes to justify crime instead of doing the right thing. The other excuse you gave that it is God the money was given to is also highly blasphemous. Are you now saying that God receives stolen money? Maybe the mamon god you zombies worship in CE, but the almighty God whom true believers worship does not even receive clean money from believers how much less stolen money. The bible makes it clear God has no needs we humans are capable of meeting so stop telling lies to justify crime in your cult.
Tonye-t:
At least I am a dunce to acknowledge that a man who has championed the course of the christendom is worthy of respect

At least I am a dunce to have pointed out that this man's spiritual achievements are evident in the number of transformed lives

I feel proud to be a dunce by giving respect to a man i find no faults in. . .his messages and lifestyle have helped provided a picture of what a true mentor and servant-leader should be.

I still feel proud to be a dunce because I see a man who helps millions out there by providing them means of getting to understand the precious words of God in simplistic manner.

And You mr.wise guy is busy making everyone believe the pastor is a fraud on the base that a member of his gave offerings from a stolen means and therefore means the humble Pastor is a thief without understanding a thing about the law. How pathetic!

You mr. wise guys is always quick to point at the speck in the Pastor's eyes yet not removing the pathetic big log in your stu.pid eyes.! I see who is dunce.

You mr.wise guy is on Nairaland dishing insults on a man whose achievements as a humble Christian pastor will never be attained by your sorry self in this life and life to come. How pathetic are you Mr.wise guy

One word for you. . . wipe your sorry arse.!
Abeg make we hear word bo!
Chris O na big time crook, who dash am pastor! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Pastor na for men of God, is He one? grin grin grin grin grin
The first time I had my doubts was when I heard him say Christ was not resurrected by God's Spirit
Blasphemy! shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Then the fake miracles & receiving of stolen funds by his members followed
What broke the camel's back was his pioneering in 9ja of gate fee charging in the name of new year crossover service
Christ told his followers to be gentle as sheep but wise as serpents
Unfortunately, too many Nigerians are docile church goers reaped off by this sheep like looking conmen who are really wolves
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Bishop David Oyedepo Is Not A Living Legend? by ochukoccna: 3:33pm On Nov 07, 2011
How dare you ascribe legend status to a servant of His who is a bloody sinner just like all mankind if not for Christ's grace?
He might have been God's servant before, but i don't know of now. undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Christianity EtcRe: Who Says Bishop David Oyedepo Is Not A Living Legend? by ochukoccna: 3:31pm On Nov 07, 2011
I recently heard Rhythm naming some Nigerians as living legends, why is Bishop david Oyedepo's name not there?
I trip to Canaanland - Ota will show anyone that this man is a legend, I heard his ministry is set to Open another university
called Landmark University soon after the order of Covenant University which is a pace setter in Private university administration.
What a fool you are! tongue tongue tongue tongue
No apologies for been so harsh
If the Christ who died for mankind was cannot be regarded as a legend by you,
How dare you ascribe legend status to a servant of His who is a bloody sinner just like all mankind if not for Christ's grace? huh undecided undecided undecided undecided
Stop worshiping oyedepo shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Worship the living God in spirit and truth cool cool cool cool
RomanceRe: Prophecy And Relationships by ochukoccna: 1:55pm On Nov 04, 2011
@ OP, Yeah a pastor or spiritually sensitive brethren may pray along with you if you decide so yet the ultimate is that you are the one to make your choice
That's why God gave you a regenerated spirit
Commune with Him and take responsibility for your life instead of shifting it to another
Also a true prophet will reveal God's mind to you not impose it on you, Very very important
Recall Agabus' prophecy to Paul about what awaited him in Jerusalem was chains and tribulations. While he told him God's mind, he never told him not to go unlike others who perceived the same and told him not to.

@ all, I don't believe in prophesy, I believe in resonance between my spirit and hers
No just follow fine face & deep pockets make your choice maritally
EducationRe: Ekiti To Shut Down Brothel Near School by ochukoccna: 1:48pm On Nov 04, 2011
So why was the senate deputy president sweating on legalizing prostitution seeing they little many places brazenly in 9ja? undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
TravelRe: Is Old Mrp Passport Still A Valid Identification by ochukoccna: 1:42pm On Nov 04, 2011
Execu1:
@ Justwise, when u say the old MRP passport has not been phased out yet & can still be used as a valid means of identification; would embassies also accept them for visa application purposes ?
Pls advice. I need to know.
No you cant use it for visa applications as at lasat year sef
Use the new one for that

@ ilurveit, believe you should still able to use it. used mine till it expired this April for bank money transfers.
I recall hearing a top shot in the passport office saying in 2009 or there about that the MRP is valid through 2011

@ all, please how much does it take to get the new passport& which office i.e. Festac or Ikoyi [or is the Ikeja passport office reopened?
Thanks.
RomanceRe: "if U Love Me Then Write My Exam For Me" by ochukoccna: 1:36pm On Nov 04, 2011
@OP, the guy na mumu tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
Serious one @ that. grin grin grin grin grin
Music/RadioRe: Who Is The Best Musician In Nigeria: 2face Or Dbanj by ochukoccna: 7:37pm On Nov 03, 2011
You compare two musicians on whether their music is evergreen not just a six week club banger
we all know the best between this 2 dudes
Even though the winner is comically addressed as Father of nations due to his JT's antics grin grin grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Gej On The Presidential Election Petition Tribunal's Verdict by ochukoccna: 6:48pm On Nov 02, 2011
Kx:
facebook as usual.
Does Obama use FB this much?--- just asking.
Nah
I doubt it
Obama on the other hand spits on CNN, Fox etc.
Jona on the other hand? undecided undecided undecided undecided
Dude cant articulate properly
Releases pre-recorded interviews
Who dash am Phd? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Probably University of Toronto whey Salisu Buhari graduate from! grin grin grin grin
Will Jona then be needing a presidential pardon gazetted?
Seeing he's always running from live interviews seeking expo
Remember the farce tagged presidential debate last year?
PoliticsRe: Atiku's Running Mate Becomes Presidential Adviser by ochukoccna: 6:18pm On Nov 02, 2011
kokoA:
And the recycling continues sad sad sad Its a pity!
I've always stated that Atiku is a political prosti-tute tongue tongue tongue tongue
He just concretized it further that he's an AGIP advocate cool cool cool
No balls, No principles undecided undecided undecided

What's with this spam bot thingie
Political prosti-tute sounds better than political love peddler now! grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Atiku's Running Mate Becomes Presidential Adviser by ochukoccna: 6:16pm On Nov 02, 2011
Vicrobor:
This is the fres air
ROFLCOPTER grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: GEJ Owes His Aides Six Months Salaries by ochukoccna: 2:53pm On Nov 02, 2011
Kx:
How does this concern us?
Should nt we bothered by the yet to be fully implemented minimum wage of N18k for teachers
to be asking why GEJ have nt paid his big men and women special advisers etc?
Thank you ojare my brother.
PoliticsRe: News Governor Timipre Silva Of Bayelsa Switches To Apga! by ochukoccna: 2:31pm On Nov 02, 2011
Dude had it coming
Too bad he never read the writing on the wall that has been so obvious for Nigerians to see.
Was he& his minders that blind? huh huh huh huh
BusinessRe: Describe Your Biggest Money Problem by ochukoccna: 2:24pm On Nov 02, 2011
Yet to make enough! tongue tongue tongue tongue tongue
BusinessRe: Fitch Revises Lagos State's Outlook To Stable by ochukoccna: 2:21pm On Nov 02, 2011
ekt_bear:
With a per capita GDP of about NGN400,000 (USD3,000), roughly one third above the national average, Lagos is Nigeria's economic powerhouse and among the wealthiest states in the Federation. The state has an official population of about nine million (estimated 18 million) inhabitants and an unemployment rate close to 20%.
http://af.reuters.com/article/nigeriaNews/idAFWLA807620111028
Lagos GDP is $3,000? shocked shocked shocked shocked
Seriously? undecided undecided undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: We Want Power, Good Roads, Good Schools And Good Homes - GEJ by ochukoccna: 7:01pm On Nov 01, 2011
GEJ's mouth is like the Benin-Ore road shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked
Strewn with potholes, every time he speaks angry angry angry angry
Lies drench you like rain cool cool cool cool
CelebritiesRe: Obj May Die In Prison-prophet by ochukoccna: 4:32pm On Nov 01, 2011
[size=13pt]He also prophesied that there would be no second term for Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State[/size]
Oooh Oooh!
Hit and miss undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided

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