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No prob. Responded also.

What kind of bullet proof cars cost N280 million

The one that President Obama, the world's most powerful man, uses are around N30 Million each.
So why should Goodluck's be nearly ten times that price?

Merry Christmas in advance to you too. Enjoy your holiday everyone! And keep an eye out for some masquerades.

Igbo is an oral language after all, so why not?

Onlytruth, I've sent you an email at your address.

It's sad that potentially meaningful topics always turn into a battle of East versus West.

None of these people listed are denying anything. Everyone's aware of what they are and the question of Ikwerre or Opobo being Igbo isn't even valid.

That's nothing more than orchestrated crying. Why do you think it got on YouTube anyway with North Korea's strict Internet laws? Government officials Probably uploaded
it to make it seem that Kim Jong had enormous public approval. It's mere propaganda. I'm sure those people received letters that told them they were selected to publicly cry for Kim Jong. It's totalitarian styled communism at it's best.

I'm pretty sure I would've comprehended it if it was spoken clearly lol.

Interesting. Now that you come to think of it, it doesn't look so mysterious.

I made a hsort clip that I was hoping to upload. Seems Nairaland doesnt handle most video formats,

ChinenyeN:
Oh ok. Well, the part of your translation where you said "Do you think I" is correct.
Same with Obiagu, just the "do you think I" is right.

Naa, ogbashili ikike.

@Isiale
Lol. When it comes to being Igbo, I'm as close to Ibibio as you can get.

@OP
The Ibibios are a great and culturally-rich people. They are also talented mask carvers and are famous for their masquerades. I'll let the Ibibios of Nairaland give you a detailed analysis of Ibibio culture.

Seventh Day Adventists by Wikipedia

"The Seventh-day Adventist Church is a major Christian denomination with a significant presence in Nigeria. Eastern Nigeria Union Mission and North-Western Nigeria Union Mission exist.[1][2] They have more than 100,000 members each.[3] Eastern Nigeria Union Mission is divided into Anambra-Imo Conference, East Central Conference, East Nigeria Conference, Rivers Conference and South East Conference.[3] North-Western Nigeria Union Mission is divided into Edo-Delta Conference, North East Nigeria Conference, North West Nigeria Conference, South West Nigeria Conference and West Nigeria Conference.[3] Babcock University is a Seventh-day Adventist university in Nigeria.[3] Inisa Community Medical Centre, Jengre Seventh-day Adventist Hospital and Seventh-day Hospital Ile-Ife are Seventh-day Adventist institutions in Nigeria.[3] There is a motherless children's home in Abia State.[3]"


Seventh Day Adventists by Joseph Adeyogun

"The Seventh-Day Adventist Church came to Nigeria in 1914, relatively late when compared to the mission work of other mainline churches. They first entered the southwestern region of Nigeria and largely remained under the guidance of white missionaries appointed to Nigeria by the General Conference. This changed, however, when Joseph Adeyemo Adeogun became the first Nigerian national to be elected president of a section of Seventh-day Adventist mission in 1961.

Adeogun was born in Inisa, located in southwestern Nigeria. He did not have the benefit of early education, but engaged in farm work like the other youth of his time. In 1930, he enrolled at the Seventh-day Adventist (SDA) Primary School in Oke-Bola, Ibadan. He married Miss Comfort Wuraola Oyeyemi Bamidele in 1932. Comfort Bamidele was one of the daughters of Pastor James Abiola Ojo, who was an early convert of Adventist pioneer, D. C. Babcock. As his newly-wedded wife, Comfort complemented Adeogun's work as a pastor. They had the first of their six children, Caleb, in 1932.

By 1933, Adeogun had been posted in Omu-Aran, in what is now present day Kwara State. Much of his work was "farm evangelism," as the majority of the community were farmers. Working long, tiring hours, the farmers often could not come to town to worship. Adeogun went to them and ministered on the farms where they resided. He was transferred to Ijero-Ekiti and later Omuo, spending nine years at the latter station. He is said to have raised the standard of education around his sphere of influence while his wife was actively engaged in the activities of the women's ministries of the church. He moved after his time in Omuo to Aiyetoro-Ekiti and later Ipoti.

Adeogun was nominated to attend ministerial training at the Adventist Training School, Ihie, eastern Nigeria, from May 1948 to February 1949. The training enhanced his effectiveness as a minister in subsequent mission stations where he worked. Some of these places included Osogbo, Abeokuta, Aiyetoro (not the same as Aiyetoro-Ekiti). After church authorities observed his leadership qualities, he was nominated for a two-year advanced training in Bekwai, Ghana, in 1955.

By 1959, Adeogun was appointed Home Missionary Secretary for the SDA church, thus becoming the first indigenous person to be so appointed. This was a departmental appointment in which he excelled. Pastor G. M. Ellstrom, the mission president in southwestern Nigeria, recommended that Adeogun be made his deputy. He served under the Ellstrom's tutelage until he was elected mission president in 1961. Pastor Ellstrom thus became the last expatriate in that part of Nigeria and Adeogun became the first indigenous minister to assume the mantle of leadership.

Christian education was foremost in the mind of the new president. He was instrumental in the founding of the first SDA tertiary institution in Nigeria, the Adventist College of West Africa at Ilisan-Remo (1959), and a secondary school, the Adventist Grammar School, Ede (1960). The Adventist College has grown to become Babcock University, one of the first three private universities to be licensed by the government of Nigeria.

In 1968, Adeogun formally retired from denominational service and died on March 25, 1971. His wife Comfort was a pillar of support for her husband and continued to be active in women's ministries programs even long after her husband's death."

Both the Catholic and Anglican Churches have had a great impact on the development of Igboland. Churches were originally the centers of learning and education as the clergy educated both old and young in bible study and English literature. Many learned to read through the church and thousands more were educated through parochial schools.

These churches also set up efforts to help alleviate the poverty in not only Igboland but south-eastern Nigeria by setting up missionaries and etc. However, I think Christianity is the main reason why the Igbos gained an "educational head start". You know in Catholicism, priests could only be ordained by bishops and prior to the emergence of Nigerian-Catholic bishops, people who wanted to become priests usually went abroad and studied in England or Ireland. So after studying theology in, lets say, Oxford, these priests would return to their countries not only with the word of God but with Western education. So yeah, the Christian missionary churches (mainly the Catholic and Anglican) played a large role in the developmental of Igboland.

Yeah you're close however they're in Arochukwu LGA. The dialects of Aro, Ihe, Ututu and others in that zone are very similar.

Here's Arondizuogu dialect notice how it doesn't resemble Arochukwu.

How are you
Ele otu idi?

Do you want to eat now?
Ichowala irli nni ha?

What's your name?
K'eten aha gi?

ChinenyeN:
What does that mean?

My translation:

Why are you ignoring me? Do you think I have spoiled his reputation?

Let me attempt

Ngwa: "kena to i disi igba m titi i che la ma elufu wala ya onu?"

Central: "ke kwan ijizi agba'm nkiti i chere na me ewufuolaya onu?"

Im concerned mainly with the meaning. His dialect is not as strait forward as others when it comes to the way they say things. Im guessing "hnw" would be the same sound as a"hu"uhu as in insect. And "gh" would be the same as "gh"ota as in pick. It's all about nasalation, or maybe I'm reading it wrongly. Nevertheless, we can't expect understand everything in every dialect just because we are Igbo.

The confusion that I experienced when I read what Nri Priest wrote is a clear example. To his people, those were everyday words/phrases while to me they weren't.

Ihechiowa

This is hilarious. 

Chinenye, I've consulted someone, who's an expert on Igbo dialects, on the meaning of your signature, and she can't decipher it. It's so serious, that I'll ask an Ngwa relative of mine. If he doesn't know then that means wahalla dey. LOL

9jaganja:
What makes a city is functional not infrastructural. The commercial activities going on in Ibadan beats that of a lot of cities in Nigeria in fact, only cities in Ibadan's league are Kano, Lagos, Onitcha and Aba. Coupled with Cultural activities and socio political activities, Aba, Onitcha won't be in Ibadan's league because Onitcha/Aba hold no political/cultural relevance within their region that isn't trumped  by the capitals of the states they are in.

Are you sure?

This I amusing. First of all, what are the standards of a "city"?t There are many places that people excluded.

Anambra:
Onicha,
Awka,
Nnewi

Abia:
Umuahia
Aba
Arochukwu (third largest town in the state with over 200,000 people)

Imo:
Okigwe
Owerre

Enugu:
Nnewi
Enugu city

NRI PRIEST:
what is ohuhu by the way ?

Non-Ngwas.

NRI PRIEST:
But ChinenenyeN, is "Ala Ngwa“ an Ngwa words or General Igbo term ?
The worst is that I have tried to read what you write but your Igbo is the hardest Igbo I have seen in my life. So,sometimes write in "Igb izugbe" so we can read you. Incuding you Odumchi, I know you can write in central Igbo.

LWKMD

Thanks for making my evening.

Obiagu1:
@ Odumchi, what NRI PRIEST wrote is near Igbo Izugbe so it's surprising you asked for a translation.
You could have been able to get a meaning out of what he wrote without asking for translation as he never used anything out of other.

IDENMILI ekeneem unu rinne = Idenmili ekenem unu nke oma = Idenmilu I great you all very well
Nke onye chilu nya nya zelu. = Nke onye chili ya zaa = Whatever title one holds he should answer
Igbo ndi oma mu ji aba nba udo dili unu. = Igbo ndi oma mu ji aba nba, udo dili unu = The good people of Igbo extraction I brag about, let peace be unto you.

I might have got a few out of other, but generally the meaning was clear as anything. Compare Idenmili with the Igbo izugbe beside it.

Asigim na ahotaram ihe dum osi. M'hotagbara ihe onhu. Ihe m'nona ajuya wu ebonhu odere "Nya" yana "zelu". Na aga m'za cheeya, "zelu" pusara "zere". Zere pusakwa "avoid" kama iwu "zaa" aga ikwuruya.
Odikwa nma. Igbaliala.

Keep 'em coming!

NRI PRIEST:
Let me start with the die hard Ngwa boy; I have encountered Ngwa people in lagos,benin,jos and here in states. I even took math with one Ngwa boy who just relocated from Aba with his parents. I know when an Abia man speaks and when an Imo person talks. And that one about Ngwa ppl not fond of disclosing their identity to a stranger is a stinking lies that you tell to a shiit eating dog! Secondly, I never said the Ngwas that I have met spoke their "okwu“. So, calm down and read my post again.



Odumchi, I have never met an Aro man who spoke the original dialect but when I first saw what you wrote, I gradually read it and almost understood everything you wrote and this is a dialect I have never came across before. I will tell you unequivocally  that the reason why you called what I wrote "mbegiri,mbegiri" is because you are not willing to read it but you expect me an Anambrarian to understand your little known Aro dialect.
99% of ANAIGBO understands the Idenmili/Onicha dialect and thats what I speak and originated from.
As for the translation,NEDU210 has translated almost everything; "rinne" means; in abundance or in a bunch.
" Nya" means;let it. The phrase "nke onye chilu nya zelu" simply refers to when you are greeting a group of people especially in Anambra where we have lots of titled men as a result of NZE na OZO, you probably wont wanna greet every single person there in their titled name,so,in other to greet this ppl in a nutshell you will say "nke onye chilu ya zelu",who loosely means; I greet everybody in their titled name and class. See me, Igbo hardooo!

There's no need to feel offended. "Mbegiri Mbegiri" only means "pieces". I said I only understood "pieces" of what you wrote. Na wa o. All this nsolgbu just because I asked for a translation.  Anyway thanks for breaking it down.

Onwa o ngeni? What's all this?

Seriously, you guys are too funny. There's an element of truth in what most of you guys are saying. In reference to Chinenye's statement it is true that many Ngwa people won't tell you that they're Ngwa until you either:
A) ask
or
B) go to their homes.
A family friend of mine came to my house and we both conversed in Igbo. She spoke Umuahia dialect/Central Igbo while I spoke Arochukwu. In my mind, I was thinking that she was from Umuahia or Imo state. At her home, I felt like I was in Osisioma Ngwa. I was surprised to find out that she spoke pure Ngwa to her children and what not but to non-Ngwa she spoke Central Igbo. So yeah, its not only Ngwa that are like that but most Igbos. When with others, they speak Central Igbo but when in the midst of their own they speak their dialects.

As for you Nri Priest, I have to admit, I find Idenmilli interesting and "sweet" in it's own way. Normally, Anamra dialects are easy to understand but they have their exceptions. In reference to what you wrote: what's "rinne"? Is it the same as "nile"? And when you wrote "onye chilu ya zelu", is it the same thing as "onye chiri ya zere"? And lastly what significance does that statement have. I understand the literal but what's is the idiomatic expression behind it?

Done.