₦airaland Forum

ChinenyeN:
People are still going at it, over the negligible Ika? Igbo doesn't need Ika for anything, so why continue to bother oneself over this? If they want so bad to be cut off, then so be it. Rather than worrying over these small and troublesome 'kingdoms', they should be ignored. It's that simple. If the whole of Ika were to catch fire, burn down or be otherwise wiped out, I doubt it would phase any of us here, honestly.

Inked_Nerd:
Ummm, I guess I'd fall under 'other'

ifyalways:
Imela.

@All,anyone ever heard of "agbiri or egbiri" for utara akpu?My paternal grandmom always used 'egburi/egbiri/agbiri'

Nchara:
Igbo cows are thicker and shorter with shorter horns and almost no hump. They are tse-tse fly resistant
Hausa/fulani cows are taller with taller horns and prominent humps but tse-tse fly susceptible.
Tse-tse fly is the vector for the deadly trypanosomiasis disease

tpia@:
an igbo monarch had an MOU with ilorin indigenes.

and didnt there use to be an igbo girl here who said her grandfather was a fulani man who became a naturalized igbo.

either that or her dad was half fulani [through his father] who was raised as 100% igbo.

the fulani side might have been from ilorin, just guessing.

and i think she was from enugu or anambra, cant remember.

tpia@:
^^that would also explain the presence of igbos in niger state from long ago.

we already know there was cultural exchange between enugu and ilorin in the 19th century.

in addition, large scale migration to the north of igboland, could have also gained momentum in that same century.

not saying it wasnt there before though. There are few records to go by.

Nchara:
Tpia:

From your post, railway lines in the East were built not before 1900. So it is still a mystery how the Igbos migrated before the railways came. The wave of migration during and after the railway era toward North is understandable. But again up till today there is no railway connection between the East and West. Canoe migration is ruled out since Igbos are not riverine people and there is no ricer connection.

KnowAll:
looks like no tiv this year abi u miss am.

Nchara:
Igbos have not made good of keeping records
We know that like many of other Africans, many Igbos were taken as slaves to the Americas.
But we do not know of Igbos taken as slaves to the Northern or Western parts of Nigeria
Therefore, I should be right to state that the first Igbos in the SW and North of Nigeria were not slaves taken to those places by force

So my question is this? When did Igbo migration to distant Nigerian regions begin? Igbos traded voluntarily with the Ijaws and ogonis. So my grandfather told me. My grandfather told me his father used to ride bikes weekly from Abia state to Ogoni and other riverine areas buying and selling. I understand that, given the proximity between Igboland and towns and villages in the present-day River state. Same also for Cross River and Akwa Ibom. But I do not understand that of Lagos (SW) and the North.

Zik was born in 1904 in Zungeru, meaning that his parents likely lived in the North before 1900.
Same for Ojukwu who was also born in the North.

When did the first Igbo man migrate out of Igboland to LAGOS and the North? Who was that Igbo man? Why did he migrate? How did he migrate (no Igbo man or any other Nigerian is known to own a car as of the 1800s). Did he trek from alaigbo to Lagos and/or Kano?. Did he ride a horse? Did he use the train? If so when did trains arrive Nigeria?
What prompted the wave of migration thereafter?

ChinenyeN:
I figured as much. At the bolded though, you'd be surprised how often I've hear that, since I first found out that people say "oka" for corn.

ifyalways:
Okwu= Speech
Emeka na-ekwu okwu.

Asusu=Language
Kedu asusu Emeka na-asu?

Dialect=Olumba
'uno' na 'ulo',kedu nke bu olumba Emeka ?

@Odumchi,gini ka Aro na-akpo akpu(fufu) ?

ChinenyeN:
Who says "akpakpa"? (though I could probably guess)

MsDarkSkin:
exactly lol. Brazilians, cubans, etc. mix yoruba with central african dialects.
the most influence Yoruba has over diaspora blacks both in english speaking and latin american countries is in terms of the deities, particularly "Chango/Shango", otherwise the language is not 100 percent.

i discussed this very topic with some folks who were offended and felt i was trying to downplay yoruba influence (which i admit i was ignorant to) but the bottom line is it's really those with strong ties to Nigeria but live in the diaspora that continue the tradition or expose the culture.

as far as this topic goes I actually heard of Igbos first. I had a class mate that was half igbo/Nigerian and half Trinidadian and he was telling me about his father's background. It was because of that, that I was able to even hear of Yoruba and Hausa through research.

Aigbofa:
Why are you twisting and turning and contradicting yourself! You said it was a hit song called ashawo and doesn't have any Yoruba in it. When I pointed it out that asewo is a Yoruba word, you now claim the song isn't called ashawo but Nwa baby!

Anyway, what language is Ashawo/asewo or whatever you want to call it?
I never said it was a corruption of an English word, I said a corruption of the Yoruba word "asewo". How you came to the conclusion that it isn't a Yoruba word, I need to know.

Aigbofa:
Isn't "Ashawo" a corruption of Yoruba word Asewo, meaning LovePeddler?

swezenberg:
It is true that for any song to sell in Nigeria there must be a bit of Yoruba in it. Most artiste in Nigeria find it hard to sell without chipping in Yoruba. I think this can be attributed to the ease of learning the language and the fact that it blends with the modern music of today. May be I should consider the fact that most artiste gain their popularity in the predominantly Yoruba region-Lagos

For the number of Yorubas out there I don't know but all I know is that I have met a lotof Yorubas and Igbos in the state. The Yorubas are very inelligent while the igbos are enterprising.

As for the Hausas, I don't know much

Ileke-Idi:
I'm still trying to understand how such a vibrant and powerful empire because a minority.

Binis should be one of the largest ethnicity in Nigeria, if I get my history right.